TMNT #86 Preview and Discussion

[AlZarkovski]

First look:

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[Utrommaniac]

Oh boy, here we go!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh, Baxter... just when I was starting to think you weren't half bad... :tlol:

[Utrommaniac]

But on second thought, since the EPF ransacked TRCI, they probably just managed to get their hands on Baxter's tech during that time.

No way Baxter would have agreed to ally himself with them after that.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

But on second thought, since the EPF ransacked TRCI, they probably just managed to get their hands on Baxter's tech during that time.

No way Baxter would have agreed to ally himself with them after that.

No, I'm pretty sure Baxter's a willing participant. He's already in with Bishop, though reluctantly.

Hell, Baxter might be the reason the Turtles know to defend Burnow Island!

[Utrommaniac]

Ah, I must have forgotten that somewhere in the mix. A lot's been going on

[ChosenOne]

Oh crap, I didn't realize this conflict would pit Stockman against the Turtles again! :o

They're certainly not wasting any time getting the story up and running, are they? So hyped!

[CyberCubed]

Reminder this arc had been foreshadowed around issue #56-57 or whatever it was when Bishop first debuted overlooking Burnow Island, like 2+ years and 20+ issues ago in the making. It's taken ages, but we finally got to it. And don't forget Ch'rell is awake now and somewhere there.

That was some time ago.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Reminder this arc had been foreshadowed around issue #56-57 or whatever it was when Bishop first debuted overlooking Burnow Island, like 2+ years and 20+ issues ago in the making. It's taken ages, but we finally got to it. And don't forget Ch'rell is awake now and somewhere there.

That was some time ago.

#53 or #54, actually.

[CyberCubed]

Even longer ago then. And now the Triceratons are there too.

[Utrommaniac]

Ch'rell and the Triceratons are a pretty recent development.

It's just a question of where Ch'rell has gone...since it will be inevitable that Kleve realized his plan failed and now he has to go on the run and drag Ch'rell with him, since he'd be at risk of imprisonment as well.

[AlZarkovski]

Full preview (https://previewsworld.com/Article/218613-Exclusive-IDW-PREVIEWS-Prevue-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-86).

[Utrommaniac]

April, my girl :D ! Look at you getting ahead of the game!

I wouldn't put it past her to be the one saving the day. Rock on.

[ProphetofGanja]

Can't freaking wait

[shredder orokusaki]

Ch'rell and the Triceratons are a pretty recent development.

It's just a question of where Ch'rell has gone...since it will be inevitable that Kleve realized his plan failed and now he has to go on the run and drag Ch'rell with him, since he'd be at risk of imprisonment as well.

Where iam? Iam there in Burnov island creating my new Shredder robot body! And i will kill Bishop and all of his soldiers!

[Utrommaniac]

Well that dropped sooner than I thought!

I'm not sure why they keep saying that Zom was the target of assassination.

We got a little bit more Irma, though.

The weirdest moment of all was when a scene repeated twice?

But connecting to that, the Roswell flashbacks look like they're going to be amazing! Like...of course it was an Utrom in the Roswell crash!

I'm not really sure how Ma'riell wasn't able to tell that Kleve had switched places with Ch'rell, unless she was just in such a hurry she didn't pay attention.

But we've finally got Traag and Granitor back in action, and once again have Ch'rell showing up on the last page again...but in magnificently oversized armor! Yeah, he's not going to have a problem fighting Slash at all. It is pretty funny how it's so much bigger than either of Krang's suits and I'm just like...were they in some kind of d*ck measuring contest of who could build the biggest suit?

Finally...someone please take that gun from Pete :lol: .


It does look like two of the Macro issues are being done ahead of this.
First the Donatello issue where he reconnects with Harold, and then Mike going in with the Foot and bonding with the kids.

Only in my second read-through did I notice "Agent Buttship" and of course I happened to have been taking a big ol' sip of tea in the middle of noticing it.

[PApagreg]

Stand Master
「Agent Bishop」
Stand Name
「Handlebars」

[Utrommaniac]

OH JEEZ I just realized the Utrom in the Bishop flashback is a MUCH bigger deal than what's being let on.

Because that's in 1947. Any other Utrom that could be alive would have been in stasis at that point. Krang had been acting alone on Burnow Island for a little under 200 years at that point, so there shouldn't be anyone else running around.

Unless there are still Utroms somehow surviving on Utrominon that Krang wasn't able to account for, and that particular one went looking for Krang. Then for whatever reason, didn't make it to Burnow island.

[AlZarkovski]

Absolutely awesome beginning!

This Utrom escaped from the dying planet, flew to the Earth and his ship crashed. Wait, somewhere I've already read it... It's SUPERMAN SUPERUTROM! :D

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Ugh, I hated the Turtles in this issue.

There's no realistic way Raph and Mike would both be so "meh" to taking the fight to Bishop, especially Mike... completely unbelievable, written solely to interject some pointless drama.

But the Utroms, Bishop, Triceratons, Baxter... if it wasn't the Turtles, it was damn good in this issue. :tcool:

[CyberCubed]

I wonder how they're going to cram the rest into only two more issues, feels like this should have been a 4-parter. But we know it's not now that we know #89 is a standalone Christmas issue. They have a LOT to cover in the next two issues.

Overall this was a great start and really this storyline was long overdue, so we finally got to it. You can tell everything else they were building up was all leading to Bishop's attack on Burnow Island, against the Utroms and wanted to continue to go after the Triceratons, and of course Ch'rell being revived.

Given the Turtles asked the Mutanimals for help, why didn't they ask Angel, Alopex, Casey, Jennika to go with them too? You'd think they'd want all the allies they could get. Since they showed them in this issue it would have been nice to see them go along with them.

Also...they remembered Traag and Granitor exist. I thought they were just gonna be forgotten since we didn't see anything of them after the early 50 issues when the Turtles just beat them and they were locked up. :lol:

[ChosenOne]

I'm having a hard time imagining how #100 can be even more epic than this arc is shaping up to be. I, too, would like it if at least Angel and Alopex joined the fray; Casey and Jennika at least have an excuse to stay behind. Bishop will probably suffer a crushing defeat in #88, same as Krang did back in Attack on Technodrome, and his importance in the story will diminish after this.

Will Slash's mind actually be restored? What will he do with himself afterwards? Will Ch'rell bring the Technodrome back into play? How will the issue of aliens living in Burnow Island be resolved? Will Stockman turn on the Turtles for good? Who was the Roswell Utrom? Is he important? Was that Bishop Jr. or Sr.? So many questions, characters and plots coming together that I definitely give thanks this wasn't decompressed into four issues!

I love me a battle royale! 8)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm having a hard time imagining how #100 can be even more epic than this arc is shaping up to be. I, too, would like it if at least Angel and Alopex joined the fray; Casey and Jennika at least have an excuse to stay behind. Bishop will probably suffer a crushing defeat in #88, same as Krang did back in Attack on Technodrome, and his importance in the story will diminish after this.

Will Slash's mind actually be restored? What will he do with himself afterwards? Will Ch'rell bring the Technodrome back into play? How will the issue of aliens living in Burnow Island be resolved? Will Stockman turn on the Turtles for good? Who was the Roswell Utrom? Is he important? Was that Bishop Jr. or Sr.? So many questions, characters and plots coming together that I definitely give thanks this wasn't decompressed into four issues!

I love me a battle royale! 8)

Pretty sure this will end with Bishop's invasion being thwarted and the EPF withdraws to lick its wounds. Not defeated, just repelled. And Slash probably left behind...

I realized last night, what if instead of Slash being killed or completely rescued, what if his mind has completely reverted to pre-psychotropic injection as a way to escape the horrors of what he's done?

[ChosenOne]

Pretty sure this will end with Bishop's invasion being thwarted and the EPF withdraws to lick its wounds. Not defeated, just repelled.

The EPF has been repelled and/or thwarted plenty of times already. It's time the Turtles score a major win against Bishop so they can stop looking over their shoulders all the time... And start looking ahead to whatever evil scheme Kitsune is cooking up.

Plus, Karai's coming back. There won't be much room left for Bishop in 2019, I wager.

As for Slash, I don't really know what to expect. I was already surprised he wasn't killed off back in Desperate Measures so... What do I know?

[CyberCubed]

Issue 90+ is probably going to be mostly about the Patheon, along with Karai coming back to NY to probably take the Foot Clan back from Splinter, so who knows.

Bishop and Ravenwood will likely still be around post issue 100 though.

[neatoman]

Well up until now I've imagined Scottie Ray's voice for Shredder. Not sure what I'll do now.

Speaking of the Ch'rell/Shredder connection. I know his armor couldn't look like Shredder's for obvious reasons, it just feels kind of wrong that it doesn't, You know?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well up until now I've imagined Scottie Ray's voice for Shredder. Not sure what I'll do now.

Speaking of the Ch'rell/Shredder connection. I know his armor couldn't look like Shredder's for obvious reasons, it just feels kind of wrong that it doesn't, You know?

I feel ya!

[CyberCubed]

I just really wonder how they can differentiate Ch'rell from Krang in this series, since Krang was very serious and evil in this version and not silly or comedic. Likewise with Shredder probably being revived by the Patheon around issue 100, Ch'rell can't take over the mantle of Shredder either.

We basically are going to have another evil rogue Utrom running around, but in the IDW-verse it's going to be a challenge to have him stand on his own separate from Krang rather than feeling like a replacement. If he can't become a new Shredder either, what will they do.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I just really wonder how they can differentiate Ch'rell from Krang in this series, since Krang was very serious and evil in this version and not silly or comedic. Likewise with Shredder probably being revived by the Patheon around issue 100, Ch'rell can't take over the mantle of Shredder either.

We basically are going to have another evil rogue Utrom running around, but in the IDW-verse it's going to be a challenge to have him stand on his own separate from Krang rather than feeling like a replacement. If he can't become a new Shredder either, what will they do.

Zealot, bloodthirsty warrior. Not a "by any means necessary" megalomaniac savior to his people.

Think Klingon instead of Cardassian. It's easy. :tgrin:

[Utrommaniac]

Absolutely awesome beginning!

This Utrom escaped from the dying planet, flew to the Earth and his ship crashed. Wait, somewhere I've already read it... It's SUPERMAN SUPERUTROM! :D

He crash landed on Earth, where the oxygen is too dense for him, and was exposed for a quite a while. If he's anything, he's SuperDead. If the atmosphere didn't kill him, his injuries probably did.



But oooh...yeah, the turtles were pretty terrible in this issue. The kind of nipped the "new divisions could stop them before it begins" thing in the bud. "Too bad, we're going." Raph is probably just going to end up dragging his feet.


I'm getting the feeling that the next issue will be very much a Ch'rell & Ma'riell and Mutanimal issue. And of course the flashback to Bishop Sr and SuperDead Utrom.


In regards to Ch'rell's armor though...I realized it's definitely an homage to 2k3 Ch'rell's' tendency to just go really big with his armor. This one seems to top them all :lol: .

[ChosenOne]

Bobby has confirmed that the agent in the Roswell flashback is Bishop Sr., so... Given the timing of said flashback and the way it lines up with Bishop Jr.'s memories and certain words he said, which would make one think he had to have been present at the scene...

Crazy theory time: "Bishop Jr." is that crash-landed Utrom in a robot exo-suit! Either that or his "father" literally uploaded his own memories into a robot body somehow, but that doesn't seem to gel so well with TMNT lore and what we saw of the old man's personality before his demise. At least I don't think so.

[Utrommaniac]

There's a lot of holes in that idea.

First, the Utrom found in Roswell is most certainly dead. Again, either died by the crash itself, its injuries, or by oxygen toxicity.

Second, even if that was the case, I think Bishop would be behaving very, very differently. Unless the Utrom was somehow convinced that he was a human and has forgotten his Utrom existence. Which seems very, very unlikely. Attacking the Triceratons is understandable, but I don't think he'd be attacking other Utroms.


What I can say is that Bishop was probably the result of messing around with Utrom technology. And perhaps Ravenwood is the result of meddling with Utrom biology. Of course, that's a bigger stretch, but it could be a good way to do the "half Utrom " human thing that 2012 failed to do.

Also, Bishop Sr made it clear that there were monsters in Area 51...so maybe more Utroms would turn up?


We've only just started on that storyline; I get the feeling that we'll only just be very surprised.

[ChosenOne]

Could be an Utrom equivalent of Leatherhead, for all we know. But I do believe that every possible theory we can come up with at this point is just waaay off and we'll be surprised by the truth either way.

[Utrommaniac]

That tends to be the usual path IDW takes.

What we thought would be a great big Leatherhead fight in a sewer was a brief chat and hallucination(???) in a museum.

What we thought was just a general "I want to take over the world" plot was more of a "I miss my dad" plot.


The one thing I can say for certain is that the likelihood of Ch'rell and Ma'riell having some kind of sour air with their father and a dead/absentee mother is through the roof. Because of course they would in this series. Unless they surprise us/me by doing something different for once, like the father being dead/absent from the family situation. (Obviously they're both gone by this point, but in terms of backstory, things are getting pretty repetitive)

[shredder orokusaki]

I feel ya!
My plan is to save the utroms from Bishop so i can kill them myself! HAAHAH !! The 2003 Utroms escaped from me because they knew i was hunting them. But these Utroms dont know iam the Shredder! And because of that i can kil them at any time! HAHAHAHAAHAHAH I will kill Bishop and his soliders and then kill all the utroms. Then i will finish working on my Shredder utrom robot body and wil ltake foot back from Splinter and turtles.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

My plan is to save the utroms from Bishop so i can kill them myself! HAAHAH !! The 2003 Utroms escaped from me because they knew i was hunting them. But these Utroms dont know iam the Shredder! And because of that i can kil them at any time! HAHAHAHAAHAHAH I will kill Bishop and his soliders and then kill all the utroms. Then i will finish working on my Shredder utrom robot body and wil ltake foot back from Splinter and turtles.

Reported. Can the RPG crap, pal.

[Utrommaniac]

Now, in reviving the question as its related to the backup...

It's pretty likely the EPF is going to end up losing Slash (who knows if that means he'll be saved or if he'll die) and that the'll capture Raphael. Likely so they could succeed at something once they inevitably fail the invasion.

But why would the EPF want to capture Raphael (or any of the boys) if they have all the turtle they'd need in Slash? It would be like replacing a tank with a small truck. Unless they don't intend to weaponize him and instead study him?


Except the turtles are all together as a group in the Christmas special, so maybe the Raphael macro is happening in a later storyline? 90-93?

[ChosenOne]

But why would the EPF want to capture Raphael (or any of the boys) if they have all the turtle they'd need in Slash? It would be like replacing a tank with a small truck.

Why do, say, the X-Men need Wolverine when they have Colossus? Different tools for different jobs. Slash is a heavy hitter, Raph is a ninja. Very useful for infiltration and/or assassination, since subtlety is definitely something Slash struggles with.

But I do like your notion of "evil (brainwashed) Raph"... Turtle Shredder, here we go! (Wishful thinking, haha!)

Although, given everything we've seen, IDW Turtle Shredder would most likely be Leo rather than Raph.

[Utrommaniac]

Well...that could have happened very early on :P .


The other point is very good though...somehow I didn't think about that.

[ChosenOne]

There weren't enough Shredders yet earlier on for that to be worth it, but now we have Saki, Karai and Ch'rell all as potential candidates in the near future... Gimme my Shredder War, damn it! :lol:

[Igglet]

In my opinion, the reason why Bishop wants to capture Raphael is to use him as less of a weapon and more of a bargaining chip. If he controls him, then he also controls the Turtles and, perhaps most importantly, the Foot Clan. He can have both parties right where he wants them. "You don't want to surrender? Well then you're going to have to fight your brother/son, and by the way just so you know we kind of made him into a living weapon just a quick fyi."

This is also what I think will lead into the final arc. I genuinely don't think Bishop's plan will work. My personal (wild) speculation is that Splinter steps in and saves Raphael, but it's the last straw until he basically decides that he wants to take down Bishop and establish the Foot Clan as the most powerful faction around. It's been a long time coming and when Splinter sees Bishop trying to find a way to blackmail the Foot, that's basically what breaks the camel's back. This starts an all-out war between them and the Turtles are stuck in between. What's more, the Foot Clan is absolutely mopping the floor with the EPF but the city is caught in the cross-hairs and because of this, the Turtles are forced to act and this is the thing that ultimately pits them against Splinter in the final confrontation.

Obviously there's a lot of factors I'm not accounting for but I do believe that the Foot Clan will be the main antagonists of the last arc, and that the Raphael Macro will be the thing that finally places them at a status above the EPF. I might be totally wrong but I think that's the direction the story's headed in right now.

[ChosenOne]

In my opinion, the reason why Bishop wants to capture Raphael is to use him as less of a weapon and more of a bargaining chip. If he controls him, then he also controls the Turtles and, perhaps most importantly, the Foot Clan. He can have both parties right where he wants them. "You don't want to surrender? Well then you're going to have to fight your brother/son, and by the way just so you know we kind of made him into a living weapon just a quick fyi."

Not saying anything about whether you're right or wrong, but I can totally picture that exchange...

Bishop: I'll make you fight your own son! Muahaha!
Splinter: Konoyaro, please.

:D

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

In my opinion, the reason why Bishop wants to capture Raphael is to use him as less of a weapon and more of a bargaining chip. If he controls him, then he also controls the Turtles and, perhaps most importantly, the Foot Clan. He can have both parties right where he wants them. "You don't want to surrender? Well then you're going to have to fight your brother/son, and by the way just so you know we kind of made him into a living weapon just a quick fyi."

This is also what I think will lead into the final arc. I genuinely don't think Bishop's plan will work. My personal (wild) speculation is that Splinter steps in and saves Raphael, but it's the last straw until he basically decides that he wants to take down Bishop and establish the Foot Clan as the most powerful faction around. It's been a long time coming and when Splinter sees Bishop trying to find a way to blackmail the Foot, that's basically what breaks the camel's back. This starts an all-out war between them and the Turtles are stuck in between. What's more, the Foot Clan is absolutely mopping the floor with the EPF but the city is caught in the cross-hairs and because of this, the Turtles are forced to act and this is the thing that ultimately pits them against Splinter in the final confrontation.

Obviously there's a lot of factors I'm not accounting for but I do believe that the Foot Clan will be the main antagonists of the last arc, and that the Raphael Macro will be the thing that finally places them at a status above the EPF. I might be totally wrong but I think that's the direction the story's headed in right now.

Interesting theory. I also share your theory... the final #100 story arc will have Splinter and the Foot as the main antagonists, not the Pantheon. It's going to kind of mirror #50... and complete the Clan Hamato / Clan Foot tension.

[Utrommaniac]

We know #100 isn't going to be the definite final arch. They're still planning a lot, and then there wouldn't have been much point in:


Having Karai throw up her hands after constant disrespect in the Foot and make her own Ninja clan with blackjack and hookers
Wait two years to bring Ch'rell into the picture with only vague words of what an absolute powerhouse he is (and looking at that suit, it's a wonder he followed Krang so loyally; one would think he'd be seeking absolute power with that thing!)
Waiting 60+ issues to reveal Kitsune's plans with the Dragon Lord
Still no word of who Null is working for and that's not going to be done in the next thirteen issues


But yeah, knowing the patterns IDW takes, that's actually a pretty likely concept.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

We know #100 isn't going to be the definite final arch. They're still planning a lot, and then there wouldn't have been much point in:

But yeah, knowing the patterns IDW takes, that's actually a pretty likely concept.

Yeah, I didn't mean final of IDW TMNT; final in their #51-#100 mega arc. :twink:

[miru]

We know #100 isn't going to be the definite final arch. They're still planning a lot, and then there wouldn't have been much point in:


Having Karai throw up her hands after constant disrespect in the Foot and make her own Ninja clan with blackjack and hookers
Wait two years to bring Ch'rell into the picture with only vague words of what an absolute powerhouse he is (and looking at that suit, it's a wonder he followed Krang so loyally; one would think he'd be seeking absolute power with that thing!)
Waiting 60+ issues to reveal Kitsune's plans with the Dragon Lord
Still no word of who Null is working for and that's not going to be done in the next thirteen issues


But yeah, knowing the patterns IDW takes, that's actually a pretty likely concept.

Not to mention Maligna and Chi-You...

Also, in addition to the Foot and EPF, are other factions going to jump in?

[hypered1]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've seen it mentioned somewhere that post 100 is already being planned. Either somewhere on her or in a recent letters section.:tgrin:

[MikeandRaph87]

Bobby said that Dark Water as done. I would have expected more story perhaps follow the Megavolt story and make it its own thing.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Bobby said that Dark Water as done. I would have expected more story perhaps follow the Megavolt story and make it its own thing.

Pretty sure nobody else is interested in Megavolt.

Having them as mercenary contractors worked for me.

[Igglet]

We know #100 isn't going to be the definite final arch. They're still planning a lot, and then there wouldn't have been much point in:


Having Karai throw up her hands after constant disrespect in the Foot and make her own Ninja clan with blackjack and hookers
Wait two years to bring Ch'rell into the picture with only vague words of what an absolute powerhouse he is (and looking at that suit, it's a wonder he followed Krang so loyally; one would think he'd be seeking absolute power with that thing!)
Waiting 60+ issues to reveal Kitsune's plans with the Dragon Lord
Still no word of who Null is working for and that's not going to be done in the next thirteen issues


But yeah, knowing the patterns IDW takes, that's actually a pretty likely concept.

Yeah I didn't really mean the finale of the entirety of IDW TMNT, just this 50 issue mega-arc, as someone else called it.

However, I'd definitely argue that we'll get payoff for both the Dragon King Pantheon storyline and the Karai thing in #100. The fact that Karai's appearing in the Leo Macro and everything else we've seen seems to imply that she's going to be a major player in the last arc. As for the Pantheon storyline, we're getting Shredder In Hell as a direct lead-up to the last arc. It's very easy to assume that it'll be directly tied to the Pantheon. You can see how things start to fit together.

If I had to give a wild guess (and I'm sorry about all of the theories, it's just that my account finally got approved after like a year and I'm hyped to share everything I had on my mind), the ending of Shredder in Hell will reveal that Kitsune sort of ditched Oroku Saki and set her eyes on Splinter as the new Dragon Lord for one reason or another. Unlike with Saki, however, she isn't molding him into a weapon because he already is one. The first half of the last arc will focus on purely the Foot Clan and then, at the end of that, the Pantheon, or at least Kitsune will make her move. Splinter will become the vessel for the Dragon Lord and the Shredder will become an uneasy ally of the Turtles and will get a bit of a redemption arc.

I'm not saying this is too likely to happen, nor that I necessarily think that this is the best thing that could happen, but I can see the story going in this direction.

Anyway, going back to the topic of the issue, I did enjoy it but the Turtles having a debate on whether they should go help out on Burnow Island felt forced and insignificant, really. Raph's and Mikey's reasoning just felt pretty weak. Plus, I really don't think Mikey should've been the one against helping the Utroms. He's always been the optimistically naive Turtle.

Overall, though, really loved seeing Ch'rell finally pop up. Can't wait to see him do something in the next issue!

[MikeandRaph87]

Pretty sure nobody else is interested in Megavolt.

Having them as mercenary contractors worked for me.

I like IDW taking old potential and making it its own thing.:trazz:

[Utrommaniac]

Can't wait to see him do something in the next issue!


You're telling me, bud, I've been banging pots and pans together while screaming for the last two years!

While pondering if I'm way over interpreting this...
https://i.imgur.com/u4hZQOG.png
Do I just have a fujoshi slumbering inside of me??? Because that's pretty feckin' extreme, Ma'riell!

[Vegeta]

I think Raph and Mikey's hesitance to jump into another war is justified. They've been fighting everyone else's battles for literal years in this comic. A little breathing room is refreshing too instead of always getting 4 green thumbs up to risk their lives when they got a lot going on at home.

Best issue in a long time, the art is just fantastic. The cover from Wachter especially kicks ass. I didn't finish Universe so I'm a bit behind on the ultrom triceraton truce lore. Good to see old hob back into the thick of things. The book has gotten complex with a lot of characters and world building, the sign of an ambitious ongoing comic. I've never followed a comic this long since the very beginning so it's been a neat experience seeing it build over the years.

[Utrommaniac]

It does kind of break from one thing in the truce story (Zom wasn't the one being assassinated), but it follows up pretty well.

(There is no "L" in Utrom!)

[ChosenOne]

(There is no "L" in Utrom!)

Blame it on Ultron. God knows I've had to stop myself from writing "Ultrom" dozens of times by now!

[Utrommaniac]

Though now all I can think of is this bit from Animaniacs

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