Rise Official Episode Discussion S1 EP4b Down with the Sickness

[Vicky82]

Down With the Sickness
The turtles must endure Splinter's Rat Flu and the seven terrible stages that come with it.


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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn30WphnIWU/?taken-by=nickelodeon

Also if no one has seen Repo Mantis yet, It's airing on Thursday so you can use this thread if you want to discuss it.

[miru]

I realized that this version, much like Mirage's, has Splinter as a bad influence on our protagonists. Splinter here is a lazy fellow who has given up hope and wants to live out his life in peace after his hardships, while ignoring them. This causes his "sons" to have a similar attitude, not really taking their duties seriously. And yet his children also realize he's a bad influence and try to shake him off, something the Mirage originals never did.

[shredder orokusaki]

It is because he dont wants me to kill him like i did to 2012 splinter! That why is hiding and is a coward!

[IndigoErth]

Really, this thread is for the episode, not your tiresome RP...

[miru]

A Mirage and Rise crossover would be an actually interesting subject (and please, let's not to the "Mirage Turtles are scary" gag again); due to how Splinter is a bad influence in both. While this one may be hedonistic, world-weary, and careless, at least he isn't the selfish, bitter, abusive, cowardly, bloodthirsty maniac his Mirage version started out as, let alone the vile abomination his Zuli version is implied to be. It could be interpreted as a warning to either of the two rodents. And what if this Splinter turns out to be the same calculating, embittered madman his comic version was?

[Leonardo2003]

Well that was absolutely insane. Wildest episode ever?

[IndigoErth]

So... uh... we got to see a little more of the lair?


Don't really know what else to say for it. It was... something. But not quite sure what.

[Powder]

That was super wacky, I dug it. Never thought I'd see a shaven Splinter, though. :tlol:

[matteso586]

1) Spinter's fur seems to have fast growing fur. 2) Are the stages supposed to be a reference to the Five Stages of Grief? 3) I think stage 4 is my favorite stage. 4) The sewer lair has more arcade machines than the 2012 version.

[IndigoErth]

Heck, their lair has an entire arcade!

Where did they steal all those from... :teek:

[Wildcat]

Clearly the 7 stages represent the stages you feel during the flu or a cold. Fever, irritability, wanting attention, delirious, giving into demands because you just don’t care and want to feel better.

I don’t think we can really know Splinter’s character from this since he was portrayed out of sorts. It was quite an episode though.

[Vicky82]

This episode was so hilarious, I just couldn't stop laughing.

[miru]

Anyone else want to see the Adversary and the Father of All Reptiles appear in this version after this episode? Given Splinter is plenty a bad influence as of now, imagine how they'd fit in organically. Could be an interesting twist on or even replacement for the usual Northampton arc. And yeah, the flu's a pretty funny thing. And also, is this episode's title a Disturbed reference? If so, they get cool points.

[neatoman]

Well that was... I can't tell if this or Repo Mantis deviates the most from what I think of TMNT.

I can at least say this, Repo Mantis is funnier as it had a more coherent logic. When it comes this, it seems kind of random and arbitrary.

[Papenbrook]

I was shocked when Mikey groped Donnie.

It seemed ... unnerving ...

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I was shocked when Mikey groped Donnie.

It seemed ... unnerving ...

What's unnerving is you pointing it out. You're literally trolling.

Not a fan of this episode. Splinter shaving himself was weird and it was too wacky for my liking.

[ninjawolf10]

:teek: The whole episode was bizzare. I kind of like this Leo, he's a bit of a background leader. Splinter is normally my favourite, but not this version...

It doesn't help he looks awful:cry:

[IMJ]

:teek: The whole episode was bizzare. I kind of like this Leo, he's a bit of a background leader. Splinter is normally my favourite, but not this version...

It doesn't help he looks awful:cry:

Modern flashimation is a travesty. I read somewhere on a "Dad" website that the show was gorgeous. I couldn't believe what I was reading. I think it looks terrible.

What started out as a joke with Ren 'n Stimpy 20 years ago has become the standard in animation. Ironic too, because I'm not a fan of CGI animated series either, but TMNT 2012 was the first show done in that style that I thought was great.

Does everyone here think this show is going to have legs?

[IndigoErth]

Gorgeous...? Clearly people who are impressed just by flashy bright colors and hyperactive animation. If they'd ease up on the sugar rush a little and stop being lazy with the frame jumps it would be an improvement. (And for the love of god can we stop with the "camera" shakes/jumps.)

Most American animation used to have so much fluid motion going on... now I guess we're dumbing it down to save a buck with fewer frames and trying to look like anime with so little motion happening other than who's speaking at the moment. Rather sad. I'd take that back any day over the spurts of over-hyper nonsense that's trying to cover for it.

Legs? Not really. I mean, we're getting two weeks of eps and exactly how many involve the actual allover theme they tried so hard (well, mild effort) to sell us on? Maybe ONE with just a repeat of the Origami something or other ep this week? Why did they bother with the theme... (Or some of the needless changes for that matter.) Was it largely only an excuse to load it up with new mutants? (And toy sales.) I'm not entirely against going for one off eps like the first series and was okay with most of the stand alone "filler" eps 2012 did, but at that rate, forget trying to have a theme and at least don't dumb it down. I know FW was goofy, but the eps DID typically have a pretty solid plot line. So far, most of these have no plot at all, or a very weak or limited one at best. This ep is a prime example. Rename the series to "Turtles Just Doing Stuff".

[Dejablue]

I watched this episode with a friend and I felt like I was on drugs.

Actually I have watched this entire series with a friend. Its not safe to watch this awful show alone! :lol: If you do you might wake up in a bathtub full of ice.

[D Piddy 1982]

This is the first episode I've managed to catch and I thought it was great. Wacky, funny, the turtles just doing stuff in their down time. Seems the people who make this stuff can't win. One TV or comic series where people moan about not enough Turtle down time, the next thing people complaining they don't want down time. These are just quick fire one shot episodes which I guess have the major story arc come up every few episodes. Bring it on, I like it.

[ZariusTwo]

Just caught this over the weekend...

...Rofl, some people like this s*it and have the gall to say the Fred Wolf cartoon is a disgrace on here

Imbeciles.

[IndigoErth]

One TV or comic series where people moan about not enough Turtle down time, the next thing people complaining they don't want down time.
Was pretty much my point when I was saying:
I mean, we're getting two weeks of eps and exactly how many involve the actual allover theme they tried so hard (well, mild effort) to sell us on? Maybe ONE with just a repeat of the Origami something or other ep this week?
I love me some decent downtime, but it needs to be a healthy mix of actual storyline peppered with down time here and there. (And better concepts for it than things like this episode.)

A part of me just hopes they're getting some of the weaker 'nothing' episodes out of the way and will a little later really focus a bit more on the actual theme this series supposedly has. But not holding my breath. Had they sold it as a show of them just doing random stuff... fine. But they've tried to sell us on this "mystic" thing, so get to it.

edit: Keeping it as half hour blocks with one half being actual theme driven and then a follow up "downtime" ep would have worked out nice.

[Dejablue]

This is the first episode I've managed to catch and I thought it was great. Wacky, funny, the turtles just doing stuff in their down time. Seems the people who make this stuff can't win. One TV or comic series where people moan about not enough Turtle down time, the next thing people complaining they don't want down time. These are just quick fire one shot episodes which I guess have the major story arc come up every few episodes. Bring it on, I like it.

**** downtime doesn't count. I want something a little more coherent than spastic nonsense.

[miru]

Was pretty much my point when I was saying:

I love me some decent downtime, but it needs to be a healthy mix of actual storyline peppered with down time here and there. (And better concepts for it than things like this episode.)

A part of me just hopes they're getting some of the weaker 'nothing' episodes out of the way and will a little later really focus a bit more on the actual theme this series supposedly has. But not holding my breath. Had they sold it as a show of them just doing random stuff... fine. But they've tried to sell us on this "mystic" thing, so get to it.

edit: Keeping it as half hour blocks with one half being actual theme driven and then a follow up "downtime" ep would have worked out nice.


In other words, by the end of the season, this show needs to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1YmS_VDvMY


And yes, the prior show had the same problem at times. Like how we had a ton of filler in Northampton before we got back there. Or how there were a bunch of filler episodes before anything major with the Foot in season 2.

[Candy Kappa]

This episode was the zaniest so far, felt very much like something you'd see for the What a Cartoon! showcase. I found it hilarious that shaved Splinter kept a sick-pack abs patches of fur. I liked stage 4 the best since we see some of Splinter's ninja skills which he apparently unleash on anyone when he's in the middle of his flu XD

Stage 3, 5 and six was also fun and seeing the Turtles progressing in the quarantine with their sickness gave some laughs too.

[Poweranimals]

What exactly did Splinter say at the end? It sounded like "Daddy needs a new bike." or something along those lines.

[Cowa]

Ain't gonna lie, this episode cracked me up because of its sheer stupidity. I liked it the same amount I was weird out by it. That feverish Splinter was pretty disguting afterall, lol.

It's just a filler episode and it wouldn't bug me if it added something to the story. The way it was, it didn't. I was the whole time thinking "man what have they done to TMNT??", but since it made me laugh, it was one of my favorites episodes so far.

And no offense, but I believe that the last cartoon dealt a lot better with its fillers. For example, the Northampton episodes that was mentioned above... They weren't just random, meaningless episodes for they were used to show character growth. Leo needed time to come with terms with what happened and regain his confidence, Donnie learnt a bit more about himself and the way he expressed his feelings for April, etc. And here we have an episode about a feverish rat going crazy and his sons wanting to explore (and run away of) his sickness. :/

What exactly did Splinter say at the end? It sounded like "Daddy needs a new bike." or something along those lines.

I'll have to rewatch it and then I'll let you know, ok? :)

[Poweranimals]

I'll have to rewatch it and then I'll let you know, ok? :)
Appreciated.

[Cowa]

Appreciated.

Just checked it and you were right, he asked for a new bike. :)

[oldmanwinters]

Splinter is rat-nasty but I loved the ran-dumbness of this episode.

[Coola Yagami]

Ain't gonna lie, this episode cracked me up because of its sheer stupidity. I liked it the same amount I was weird out by it. That feverish Splinter was pretty disguting afterall, lol.

It's just a filler episode and it wouldn't bug me if it added something to the story. The way it was, it didn't. I was the whole time thinking "man what have they done to TMNT??", but since it made me laugh, it was one of my favorites episodes so far.

And no offense, but I believe that the last cartoon dealt a lot better with its fillers. For example, the Northampton episodes that was mentioned above... They weren't just random, meaningless episodes for they were used to show character growth. Leo needed time to come with terms with what happened and regain his confidence, Donnie learnt a bit more about himself and the way he expressed his feelings for April, etc. And here we have an episode about a feverish rat going crazy and his sons wanting to explore (and run away of) his sickness. :/



I'll have to rewatch it and then I'll let you know, ok? :)

It's not that kind of show. Most of the eps will be filler and random zaniness.

[Powder]

For the love of God, you people need to stop calling Standalone episodes "filler".

[IndigoErth]

But since the term doesn't apply to arc-centered eps, isn't that kind of the definition of filler? https://i.imgur.com/Vpwg7Yh.png

[Powder]

"Filler" is a pejorative that insults the people who work hard to create fun, self contained features, only to have them dismissed as dollar stretching fodder by entitled fans.

[IndigoErth]

I dunno, I never considered "filler" to be an insult, seeing how eps can go either way; good ideas or not to much. 2012 has its share of them and I liked the majority. Some of those were "just filler," but decent filler nonetheless

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Filler episodes are entries in a generally continuous serial that are unrelated to the main plot and generally serve only to take up space. This could also be considered "padding."

[Cowa]

Filler episodes are entries in a generally continuous serial that are unrelated to the main plot and generally serve only to take up space. This could also be considered "padding."

I agree with you and I may be wrong but this is the only definition of filler that I ever heard of. And like IndigoErth said, I never thought of filler episodes as an insulte because fillers can result in good episodes too. I mean, there are plenty of filler episodes of many different shows out there, there are filler arcs even, and a great part of them are good and enjoyable so I see no problem with them.
No offense, I only complain about Rise fillers because a) they are too much for a series that started being aired yesterday and b) some of them don't add anything in any form.