Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: IDW 20/20

[Shargor]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: IDW 20/20

By Paul Allor (writer) and Dave Wachter (artist)

Meet the Turtles of tomorrow in this adventure set 20 years in the future! The Utrom Civil War rages across Earth. When news of a backup Technodrome threatens hundreds of millions of innocent lives, it’s up to the Turtles to do what they do best—save the world.

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New IDW Initiative, all details here: http://www.multiversitycomics.com/news/idw-20th-anniversary-event/

[miru]

So, we get a flash-forward story, again. Are these becoming a tradition? Nick did it, Mirage did it several times, and many other versions did this via time-travel (Archie, 2k3, and the OT come to mind).

I like this concept. Especially since the franchise’s Own 35th anniversary is coming, for a potential follow-up.

[Utrommaniac]

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Is Leo hanging out in the spirit world a bunch? Raph is the only one who appears to have aged?

No surprise that the Utroms probably would end up fighting each other, but like...where did a "backup" Technodrome come from? And where do they have the numbers to even think of risking a civil war? And be able to maintain it for 20 years? Can they even repopulate that fast???


And, is this a SAINW situation or the actual future? Now that so much has happened, it would be reasonable to make a guess that the mutant city future no longer exists, but has now been replaced by something far worse.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sweet! This ties right in with the Donatello macro-issue... hope that means it'll be collected in the future, and not ignored like the Deviations issue...

[Igglet]

Holy crap I did NOT see this coming. Where was this announced?

[Utrommaniac]

Sweet! This ties right in with the Donatello macro-issue... hope that means it'll be collected in the future, and not ignored like the Deviations issue...

SAINW it is then??? I guess we need to find out if Don's Future Visions were actual futures or possible futures.

[80gmrp]

Interesting. Curious if this Utrom Civil War will involve the other mutants as well. Admittedly I’m biased with my love for Leatherhead, but still.

[ChosenOne]

:o :o :o IDW, you're spoiling us! When does this come out?

[TigerClaw]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: IDW 20/20

By Paul Allor (writer) and Dave Wachter (artist)

Meet the Turtles of tomorrow in this adventure set 20 years in the future! The Utrom Civil War rages across Earth. When news of a backup Technodrome threatens hundreds of millions of innocent lives, it’s up to the Turtles to do what they do best—save the world.

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New IDW Initiative, all details here: http://www.multiversitycomics.com/news/idw-20th-anniversary-event/
So its set 20 years into the future. How old would the Turtles be by then? At least Raph doesn't have an Eye Patch this time.

[ChosenOne]

So its set 20 years into the future. How old would the Turtles be by then? At least Raph doesn't have an Eye Patch this time.

They'll be in their 30's, right? Still pretty young for a turtle.

[TigerClaw]

They'll be in their 30's, right? Still pretty young for a turtle.
I think they were over a 100 years old in the future from the Archie Comics.

[Cloudrunner]

Wonder if any other characters will make an appearance or if it'll be focused mainly on the turtles.

[CyberCubed]

I guess this contradicts the future seen in the Turtles in Time special with the old Donatello and all those Bebop/Rocksteady clone mutants. But as said these are likely all parallel futures in different timelines, not necessarily what will happen in our main timeline.

[DevilSpooky]

Yeah, no way that Leo isn't a spirit, he even has this weird aura around him.

[Utrommaniac]

There's a whole lotta "Whaaaaat the ffff...???" around this that we can't even wrap our heads around yet

[ChosenOne]

I guess this contradicts the future seen in the Turtles in Time special with the old Donatello and all those Bebop/Rocksteady clone mutants. But as said these are likely all parallel futures in different timelines, not necessarily what will happen in our main timeline.

Not necessarily. We only saw Manhattan in that, we have no idea what's going on across the Atlantic. There's an Utrom on the map of territorial divisions that we all assumed was Krang because he was the active one at the time, but it could represent Ch'rell for all we know at this point. I personally don't think we'll revisit that particular timeline, though. Just get a couple of nods to it here and there, but it's been averted for the most part.

[Utrommaniac]

My theory is that the Mutant Island future happened because the turtles weren't able to stop Shredder or Krang due to divisions between them, so the Technodrome arch made them get their sh*t together. We saw this during the "Hey, Shredder is far less important than the Technodrome right now." cycle.


And now we're probably going to get a similar division that could potentially lead to the Utrom Civil War if the turtles don't get their act together. Also Leo might die!


We'll just have to wait and see if this is even a possibility for an "actual" future. Considering that there is stuff with Kitsune's plans that seem to be the absolute worst thing that could happen, more so than the Technodrome's full potential being unlocked. (That being the second worst)

[ProphetofGanja]

Whoa, cool

[909 Turtle Fan]

I’ve always liked stories about the future, and this one should be really cool, especially since the turtles won’t be super old.

[Allio]

They'll be in their 30's, right? Still pretty young for a turtle.

mid 20's, biologically that is. Remember that before the series only 1 1/2 years passed before they found Raphael. I doubt that too many years passed since then as we only had two christmas, I'd argue that overall only 2-3 years has passed since issue one. So the turtles would be biologically around 25

[Utrommaniac]

I think the turtles themselves were only like...one biologically.

They only spent a year in the sewers (sans Raphael, still on the surface with Casey), and have been together ever since for the past two or three.


Leo for sure would be hitting his early 20's if they wanted to count the years they already had as humans. At the time of their human deaths, they would probably have been seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, and fourteen (goddamn, Yoshi and Shen didn't waste any time :lol: ).

So Raphael and Michelangelo would be the only ones left that are actually teenagers.

So in the future they would be all be pushing 40. And it's the second-youngest who actually looks his age :lol: . Maybe Leo is a spirit after all.

[hypered1]

Sweet! This ties right in with the Donatello macro-issue... hope that means it'll be collected in the future, and not ignored like the Deviations issue...

Agreed on both counts - it would have been nice if Deviations had been included (as a bonus in Volume 7 as it had the space, unlike Volume 3 which already had about 4 issues more content) and if 20/20 does get included it would mean that Ongoing #100 would be the 200th issue overall in the main continuity (including the minis, macros, micros, annuals, Usagi x-over and Universe) and would also set up Volume 13 to end at this mark - a silly bit of reasoning to be sure, but it would allow for any soft-reset that could be needed from #101 on-wards or allow readers a solid point to walk away from the series if they so desired. That and it would keep anyone with OCD/ OCPD (myself included to a certain degree) happy! :lol:

[neatoman]

This will be interesting. I wonder if it'll be part of one of those crossover trades or gets bundled in with other TMNT comics somehow. I'm hoping for the latter.


Speaking of the other 20/20 titles, I'm a little curious about the timeline for each of them.
IDW TMNT seems to be on a floating timeline, so 20 years into the future should just be 2039.
20 years ih the past for Picard should be 2346, no argument there.
I haven't read the Jem book but from I get it should be around 2039 as well.
MLP is just a fantasy world for kids, so the real world timeline does not count.
What interesting is Ghostbusters though. I don't read IDW Ghostbusters but I know it does continue from the original movie, but I don't know how the timeline is. Does that mean 20 years in the future is closer to 2039 or 2004?

[Nortock Diab]

Great news!
I would have loved a story more in the future though (50 years?) with older turtles à la Mirage Future era.

[hypered1]

This will be interesting. I wonder if it'll be part of one of those crossover trades or gets bundled in with other TMNT comics somehow. I'm hoping for the latter.


Speaking of the other 20/20 titles, I'm a little curious about the timeline for each of them.
IDW TMNT seems to be on a floating timeline, so 20 years into the future should just be 2039.
20 years ih the past for Picard should be 2346, no argument there.
I haven't read the Jem book but from I get it should be around 2039 as well.
MLP is just a fantasy world for kids, so the real world timeline does not count.
What interesting is Ghostbusters though. I don't read IDW Ghostbusters but I know it does continue from the original movie, but I don't know how the timeline is. Does that mean 20 years in the future is closer to 2039 or 2004?


Writers Erik Burnham and Tristan Jones have confirmed that the IDW Ghostbusters series begins in 1993 and is in the same continuity as the first two films and the 2009 video game (which is set in 1991) - the 2016 film and the cartoon series Real Ghostbusters and Extreme Ghostbusters have been confirmed as 'alternate realities and timelines' within the context of the series.

The current Crossing Over maxi-series is set in 1998, which would make the GB 20/20 issue set around now in 2018.

Also for Picard it would be 2344 as TNG spans 2364 to 2371.

[oldmanwinters]

Hey, great, now we get a taste of what an IDW "Volume 4" era might look like!

[CyberCubed]

Hm, just realize maybe we'll see the IDW version of Shadow here?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Hm, just realize maybe we'll see the IDW version of Shadow here?

I'd fvcking LOVE that!

[Vegeta]

Looks awesome to be honest, all of this stuff looks so much more intriguing than the universe book was

[neatoman]

Hm, just realize maybe we'll see the IDW version of Shadow here?

Yeah, that's a good idea.

[hypered1]

I think the turtles themselves were only like...one biologically.

They only spent a year in the sewers (sans Raphael, still on the surface with Casey), and have been together ever since for the past two or three.


Leo for sure would be hitting his early 20's if they wanted to count the years they already had as humans. At the time of their human deaths, they would probably have been seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, and fourteen (goddamn, Yoshi and Shen didn't waste any time :lol: ).

So Raphael and Michelangelo would be the only ones left that are actually teenagers.

So in the future they would be all be pushing 40. And it's the second-youngest who actually looks his age :lol: . Maybe Leo is a spirit after all.

I had always estimated the boys to have been between 11 (Mikey) and 14 (Leo) going by the early flashbacks in issue 5 and the Foot Clan mini-series and if we go by the timeline Nines has used in the chronology thread they would be 15 to 18 around now - so probably late 30's in 20/20? Not that there will ever be any official confirmation and nor does there really need to be one.