Rise Official Episode Discussion S1 EP9b Mrs. Cuddles

[Vicky82]

Mrs. Cuddles
April and the brothers make Raph face his greatest fear: an adorable kids' TV show bunny.

Here's a clip

https://www.facebook.com/teenagemutantninjaturtles/videos/vb.115965091775764/1883614251675167/?type=2&theater

[80gmrp]

Saw a clip earlier on, and I think I can safely say Don is no longer my favorite turtle: the bust of himself proves an unprecedented ego problem in this series...

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I'll admit, it's nice to see April get hers comeuppance after The Gumbus. Not gonna lie, I was hoping Mr. Cuddles was going to cut Donnie's shell pack.:D Though he'll likely create a new one anyway.

[IndigoErth]

Interesting... What are these people on? Nick Studios must not have mandatory drug testing.

But why the hell was it alive in the first place? And it grows with screams? (Are we mutating stuffed animals now?) And why was April in a commercial out of nowhere? Is she ON/hosting the kids show?? And why were they such jerks to Raph? But mostly April since I guess she brought the thing to their home. That wasn't "making him face his fear" and scaring him with the tv commercials was prank enough. And why is this Raph such a chicken...

But I suppose taking a likely trope of making a harmless object scary was somewhat of a success.



Yeah, agree not really into the Donnie ego thing that has seemed to become apparent over time, and now obvious. Thought he was probably one of the better characters in this series, but his attitude is wearing on me. Is he supposed to be the stereotyped teen who is annoyed at everything most hours of the day?

[matteso586]

1) My logical explanation to why Mrs. Cuddles is alive. She's from the underground city. 2) It seems that Splinter can be a ninja master whenever he wants to. 3) Part of me was hoping that Mrs. Cuddles is a robot that Donnie created.

[Vicky82]

The episode was OK, I like that Splinter helped Raph defeat Mrs Cuddles.

Apparently there was subtle but big info in the episode.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/311e992c4ed35da11cdf27ef3a2fee6b/tumblr_pgws9lx8KH1xnswdlo1_540.png

I will have to watch again to see if I catch it.

[neatoman]

A demonic puppet that grows from screaming... and was put on a kids' show because laughter makes it shrink...

Why does that both come across as familiar and totally alien at the same time?

[Vicky82]

I think I found the subtle big info that Andy mentioned.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/f478e4b423cf2c2cdfa7cda75868ce52/tumblr_pgww71tDMY1tb8ewio1_540.png

There are clothes on the floor which could indicate the Turtles and Splinter used to be human.

Also it's only humans that are getting mutated, haven't seen any animals getting mutated yet.

Leo being called Leon and Mikey being called Michael/Miguel in previous episodes, so those could be there human names.

[shredder orokusaki]

Then they are like the IDW but the only difference is that they were mutated while they were humans and didnt reborn as turtles and rat like in IDW after i killedt them!

[neatoman]

Oh yeah, and the line about "marrying off the turtles". Who did Splinter think he could arrange to marry sewer dwelling mutant turtles?

[IndigoErth]

Only issue with that theory is that even if they had been human they were no doubt mutated very young. Young enough not to remember that mystic place or Draxum, who presumably 'made' them (and suggested himself that it has been many years). They'd have no reason to own clothing that size (or leave them laying there on the floor or desk chair for many years) if it wasn't stuff they were presently wearing on occasion.

That said, I gotta say that's a pretty nice room. (Even a counter, bar stools, and a fridge?)

Oh yeah, and the line about "marrying off the turtles". Who did Splinter think he could arrange to marry sewer dwelling mutant turtles?
Laughed at that line and wondered the same. But I guess it is or will be a city with a growing mutant population, so who knows.

[Vicky82]

Only issue with that theory is that even if they had been human they were no doubt mutated very young. Young enough not to remember that mystic place or Draxum, who presumably 'made' them (and suggested himself that it has been many years). They'd have no reason to own clothing that size (or leave them laying there on the floor or desk chair for many years) if it wasn't stuff they were presently wearing on occasion.



I doubt they wore those clothes before they got mutated, maybe they still think more like a human by keeping clothes or they like to keep clothes just in case they might return to human.

They could of been mutated somewhere else, maybe in a secret lab or in there old home.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, that's what I mean, if they were human then they were probably only in infant or young children's sized clothing at the time of mutation.

Kind of odd to have size appropriate clothing thrown around though. Maybe they just use it to disguise themselves to go grocery shopping or whatnot. Now, the sweater (on the chair) makes good sense since it might get kinda chilly down there.



Crazy alternate theory... the clothing belongs to their victims. :tlol:

[miru]

I think I found the subtle big info that Andy mentioned.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/f478e4b423cf2c2cdfa7cda75868ce52/tumblr_pgww71tDMY1tb8ewio1_540.png

There are clothes on the floor which could indicate the Turtles and Splinter used to be human.

Also it's only humans that are getting mutated, haven't seen any animals getting mutated yet.

Leo being called Leon and Mikey being called Michael/Miguel in previous episodes, so those could be there human names.

Just you wait; it's gonna turn out Baxter used to be a regular fly. And Bebop and Rocksteady used to be regular animals.

Maybe it indicates something a little darker; Yoshi used to have a real child, but they vanished, and he got some turtles to fill their void. Miwa?

[Ninjinister]

And why was April in a commercial out of nowhere? Is she ON/hosting the kids show??

Did you miss the part were April said it was her new job? Mrs. Cuddles even said "I remember you from work" before attacking. That's HOW she got access to Mrs. Cuddles in the first place.

[Powder]

While I got a laugh or two out of this & was glad to see Splinter get in on the action, it's by far my least favorite of the series.

[miru]

Only issue with that theory is that even if they had been human they were no doubt mutated very young. Young enough not to remember that mystic place or Draxum, who presumably 'made' them (and suggested himself that it has been many years). They'd have no reason to own clothing that size (or leave them laying there on the floor or desk chair for many years) if it wasn't stuff they were presently wearing on occasion.

That said, I gotta say that's a pretty nice room. (Even a counter, bar stools, and a fridge?)


Laughed at that line and wondered the same. But I guess it is or will be a city with a growing mutant population, so who knows.


Maybe they were even BORN mutants? Tang Shen never knew what hit her, and Yoshi was disappointed with his children.

[VaughnMichael]

I actually really enjoyed this episode also!
I also don't think Cuddles is a mutant, I'm pretty sure it's a possessed demonic doll.
And it was nice to see Splinter in action but I really wish he would stop calling them red, blue, purple....
He also had the best line in the entire episode when he said Raphael had cotton mouth.
I couldn't believe the cencors allowed that one and I actually laughed out loud at it.

[Ninjinister]

He also had the best line in the entire episode when he said Raphael had cotton mouth.
I couldn't believe the cencors allowed that one and I actually laughed out loud at it.

I mean the term's used for any sort of dry mouth feeling, so I don't think it's all that "bad".

[IndigoErth]

Did you miss the part were April said it was her new job? Mrs. Cuddles even said "I remember you from work" before attacking. That's HOW she got access to Mrs. Cuddles in the first place.
Yes, but which work? They made it apparent that Mrs. Cuddles was being overused in commercials for other things, even selling cars. April suddenly showing up on their tv doing commercials and/or kid's show is pretty random.


Maybe they were even BORN mutants? Tang Shen never knew what hit her, and Yoshi was disappointed with his children.
Would be an interesting angle for sure. (Now how to handle the different ages?)

[neatoman]

I thought Cuddles sounded familiar. I just checked it out an it turns out the actress also voiced most female characters on South Park between 1999 and 2003.

[VaughnMichael]

I mean the term's used for any sort of dry mouth feeling, so I don't think it's all that "bad".
Then why did Splinter chuckle like he did and wink...

[victory_angel]

Interesting... What are these people on? Nick Studios must not have mandatory drug testing.

But why the hell was it alive in the first place? And it grows with screams? (Are we mutating stuffed animals now?) And why was April in a commercial out of nowhere? Is she ON/hosting the kids show?? And why were they such jerks to Raph? But mostly April since I guess she brought the thing to their home. That wasn't "making him face his fear" and scaring him with the tv commercials was prank enough. And why is this Raph such a chicken...

But I suppose taking a likely trope of making a harmless object scary was somewhat of a success.



Yeah, agree not really into the Donnie ego thing that has seemed to become apparent over time, and now obvious. Thought he was probably one of the better characters in this series, but his attitude is wearing on me. Is he supposed to be the stereotyped teen who is annoyed at everything most hours of the day?

More like since he's Smarter then everyone else, he doesn't need to rub that in because it's already known.

But it's more like a "Don't mind me, I'm just waiting as I lose my sanity being around these morons for the last 14 years." Though I did find the making a titanium bust of himself was a bit much.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Don't mind me, I'm just waiting as I lose my sanity being around these morons for the last 14 years."

That line just reads so perfectly in Rise Donatello's voice :D

[Hero]

I think I found the subtle big info that Andy mentioned.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/f478e4b423cf2c2cdfa7cda75868ce52/tumblr_pgww71tDMY1tb8ewio1_540.png

There are clothes on the floor which could indicate the Turtles and Splinter used to be human.

Also it's only humans that are getting mutated, haven't seen any animals getting mutated yet.

Leo being called Leon and Mikey being called Michael/Miguel in previous episodes, so those could be there human names.

I love this. I've always speculated that Splinter was previously Lou Jitsu as a stagename.

Any animal-based mutants like the Oozequitos, the caged creatures in Meat Sweats' van (I swear one of them was Scale Tail), Hugin and Munin are anthropomorphic in a different extent.

I'm left wondering whose room in the screenshot that is. Certainly not Raph's.

There's also a shot where Raph picks up a skateboard that has a Mondo Gecko toy vibe to it (chunky red wheels). Around 10:38 into the episode, there is a picture on the bottom that looks vaguely like him.

[miru]

I love this. I've always speculated that Splinter was previously Lou Jitsu as a stagename.

Any animal-based mutants like the Oozequitos, the caged creatures in Meat Sweats' van (I swear one of them was Scale Tail), Hugin and Munin are anthropomorphic in a different extent.

I'm left wondering whose room in the screenshot that is. Certainly not Raph's.

There's also a shot where Raph picks up a skateboard that has a Mondo Gecko toy vibe to it (chunky red wheels). Around 10:38 into the episode, there is a picture on the bottom that looks vaguely like him.

Even more evidence of another character appearing out of nowehere unadvertised? And yeah, I think the normal animal Mutants are in short supply, unless those too were humans so mutated they’re unrecognizable anymore. Perhaps the Oozesquitoes don’t have enough ooze to mutate an animal into a humanoid state?

[IndigoErth]

But it's more like a "Don't mind me, I'm just waiting as I lose my sanity being around these morons for the last 14 years."
Which would be totally understandable with this series. :lol:

Still wish he'd be the resident 4th wall breaker over some of the ridiculous stuff in this series through which the series shows a little self awareness of said ridiculousness. :trazz:

[Vegita-San]

So, I read the 'digital ashcan' of idw tmnt 0.

Wow. They don't pay attention to april leaving the room and then jump to the conclusion that she's missing?

Sigh.

I'd say this series was aimed at 4 year olds, but might an insult to the 4 year olds.

[miru]

So, I read the 'digital ashcan' of idw tmnt 0.

Wow. They don't pay attention to april leaving the room and then jump to the conclusion that she's missing?

Sigh.

I'd say this series was aimed at 4 year olds, but might an insult to the 4 year olds.

I guess we have another one to put up next to the Dreamwave series, Vol.4 #22, “Spaced Out”, The May East Saga, and the Flaming Carrot Crossover in the hall of shame.

[IndigoErth]

Wow. They don't pay attention to april leaving the room and then jump to the conclusion that she's missing?
They have such a keen sense of awareness. Imagine if an enemy showed up... :tconfuse:

These guys aren't even ready to leave the house without an adult, let alone be allowed to go out in the city and swing dangerous weapons around. (And as young as they want to make them out to be? Splinter should be arrested for child endangerment. Yes, your skills are so poor that you land flat on your face, but here, have a couple - or now single - swords.)

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Rewatching this, I heard Splinter actually call Raph by his name only to call him "Red one" afterwards (Raph's fear flops make me laugh everytime). Don't know if that was a goof or not.

[Ninjinister]

Then why did Splinter chuckle like he did and wink...

Maybe I phrased that wrong.

In universe, Splinter knew what he was saying.

The writers knew what they were saying.

But because it's a term for more than just that, it could have gone over the censors' heads.

[Powder]

Then why did Splinter chuckle like he did and wink...

Because he made a clever pun & is a goofball? Raph literally had a mouth full of cotton.

[VaughnMichael]

Maybe I phrased that wrong.

In universe, Splinter knew what he was saying.

The writers knew what they were saying.

But because it's a term for more than just that, it could have gone over the censors' heads.
Ah I see what you're saying.
Because he made a clever pun & is a goofball? Raph literally had a mouth full of cotton.
Oh come on you know it was the writers trying to get a weed reference past the suites.
And it was one of the funniest moments in this show so far.

[Powder]

I personally don't think that at all, no. With the last series, maybe, but not here.

[IndigoErth]

I dunno, if they even dared thought to try to, I actually feel like this show might be more likely to try to get away with it since it would be more pun/jokey than 2012 would do.

That said though, I have my doubts that they meant it like that. Maybe a little early to be trying to push such boundaries.

[CyberCubed]

At the least this ep confirmed Splinter can fight and knows ninjitsu and isn't always a lazy bum. :lol:

I do think Splinter will have a major turnaround as the season progresses, you can tell they have more in store with him.

[Powder]

At the least this ep confirmed Splinter can fight and knows ninjitsu and isn't always a lazy bum. :lol:

I do think Splinter will have a major turnaround as the season progresses, you can tell they have more in store with him.

To that end, peep this chunk of an interview from September-

Does Splinter get involved in the action?

Suriano: Splinter is very involved in the action. He probably has the most interesting story arc of the first season.

Ward: There’s more to the rat man.

Suriano: So far, any animosity towards any of the redesigns might be towards Splinter but there’s more than meets the eye with that.

How is he different than previous incarnations?

Ward: He’s from Cyberton. No, at the end of the day he’s a very loving father who is put in a very precarious predicament.


Source: https://www.slashfilm.com/rise-of-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-interview/

[victory_angel]

Rewatching this, I heard Splinter actually call Raph by his name only to call him "Red one" afterwards (Raph's fear flops make me laugh everytime). Don't know if that was a goof or not.

In Origami Tsunami after Leo jokingly suggests they take on the city's rat problem. Splinter whips him with his tail and says "Leon...I am standing right here!" So he does use his son's names on occasion, but he would mostly refer to them by their signature color.

[IndigoErth]

Should this really take place before Shell in a Cell? Raph still has a Ghostbear poster up. Maybe he just left it, but considering how he seemed to end up feeling about his so-called hero, yeah...


Also, I guess I stand corrected, that she is on the kid's show itself. But why in gods name would this girl (who can't keep any other job so far) randomly end up on tv... Are we headed to another form of Mary Sue April?

[victory_angel]

Should this really take place before Shell in a Cell? Raph still has a Ghostbear poster up. Maybe he just left it, but considering how he seemed to end up feeling about his so-called hero, yeah...


Also, I guess I stand corrected, that she is on the kid's show itself. But why in gods name would this girl (who can't keep any other job so far) randomly end up on tv... Are we headed to another form of Mary Sue April?

I'd say another form of April as a reporter, the kid's show was one of the stepping stones to being an intern at Channel 6.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

In Origami Tsunami after Leo jokingly suggests they take on the city's rat problem. Splinter whips him with his tail and says "Leon...I am standing right here!" So he does use his son's names on occasion, but he would mostly refer to them by their signature color.

It sounded more like "Hey now! I am standing right here!" to me.

[Cowa]

I personally don't think that at all, no. With the last series, maybe, but not here.

I wouldn't be so sure. They made a blatantly reference to Satanism in Newsworthy, so why wouldn't they make one for smoking weed? I mean, look at it. There's a goat that is related to the mystic world... Plus a skull and even a fetus on the shelf... And this is a supposed young kids show.

(Sorry, don't know how to put the picture under the spoiler thing)