Live Action Star Wars Series about Cassian Andor has been Announced at Disney

[TigerClaw]

Disney has officially announced another Live Action Star Wars Series for its Disney+ Streaming Service. This new series will focus on the early days of Cassian Andor. The Hero from Rogue One.
https://www.starwars.com/news/cassian-andor-live-action-series-announced?fbclid=IwAR2EAR9jWPKt94VLyj06lMPqKHV5oQT HDta9MK7SjchRfr57f5Wja5DnhUo

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[Andrew NDB]

So... Han Solo Wannabe: The Series? Following FAKE Han Solo: The Movie, that failed? Seems like a very ill-advised choice.

FYI, without that video link there, I would have had no idea "Cassian Andor" was a character in Rogue One.

[Vegita-San]

So... Han Solo Wannabe: The Series? Following FAKE Han Solo: The Movie, that failed? Seems like a very ill-advised choice.

FYI, without that video link there, I would have had no idea "Cassian Andor" was a character in Rogue One.

bingo. strar wars series about characters no one even remembers or cares about.

[Krutch]

Yep.

Only good thing about this being a thing is they can work to retroactively make Rogue One a more interesting story.

[Allio]

So if I have this correct

we have

Episode 1
Episode 2
The Clone Wars
Episode 3
Solo
Rebels
Cassian
Rogue One
Episode 4
Episode 5
Episode 6
Mandalorians
Resistence
Episode 7
Episode 8
Episode 9


Did I miss anything?

[Andrew NDB]

Did I miss anything?

Dignity. Among some of those entries. But that looks about right. And I don't remember anyone saying the 2 Ewok movies (which would be after RotJ) don't count. The 2nd one actually had balls. And given Lucas' involvement, the general "Shadows of the Empire" probably ought to still stand, too, right between TESB and RotJ.

[TigerClaw]

So if I have this correct

we have

Episode 1
Episode 2
The Clone Wars
Episode 3
Solo
Rebels
Cassian
Rogue One
Episode 4
Episode 5
Episode 6
Mandalorians
Resistence
Episode 7
Episode 8
Episode 9


Did I miss anything?
Yeah the Trilogy that Rian Johnson is working on. I don't know where it'll fit in with those. Since this new Trilogy won't have anything to do with the Skywalkers. And be set in some other part of the galaxy. And there is also the movies that the creators of Game of Thrones will be working on as well.

[sdp]

Well the Ewok movies are no longer in continuity but before Disney Star Wars they were meant to take place before ROTJ officially but it creates a continuity problem since Widget learns English which he doesn't know in ROTJ. The fix is that he didn't actually learn English but another language which was just English for the audience. The ewok cartoon actually leads into ROTJ since one of the episodes has the empire finding the moon of Endor.

[Andrew NDB]

Well the Ewok movies are no longer in continuity

According to who? Disney said the EU was torn down. The Ewoks movies weren't EU.

[neatoman]

Who the hell asked for more Cassian? Along with the rest of the RO characters, he was introduced entirely for the purpose of dying. And it's not even like with Obi-Wan who was an old man with an established past of being an overall badass and continued to have a role as a ghost, Cassian is just some Rebel assassin who could really only have operated for like 5 years.

[sdp]

According to who? Disney said the EU was torn down. The Ewoks movies weren't EU.

Lucasfilm specifically mentioned that only the 6 films and Clone Wars were canon going forward. Yes, Shadows of the Empire as well.

[Leo656]

Yes, Shadows of the Empire as well.

They're stupid. Nobody should listen to them.

A Star Wars Universe where Shadows and KOTOR aren't canon, but TLJ is, is the absolute ass of all possible Star Wars Universes.

...AND WHAT ABOUT "DROIDS"?!?! Those idiots have no idea what's important.

[frank_one]

That character doesn't really need a series of his own.

[Andrew NDB]

Looks like it's entered into production now:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/cassian-andor-tv-series-begins-production/

Couldn't care less about it, honestly. A weird choice.

[Cure]

Couldn't care less about it, honestly. A weird choice.

You cared enough to look up a two year old thread and post in it.

[Barkworm]

Rogue One was the last SW movie I watched. My opinion of it is that when I started writing this post, I couldn't even remember its name - let alone the names of its horrible characters - because it was so incredibly bland and unmemorable.

[Leo656]

I keep forgetting to watch that one. All I ever hear anyone talk about is the Vader clip, which I've seen already.

Kinda hesitant. Even if it's "good", it's still Disney Star Wars, which I'd strongly prefer to disregard in its entirety. I'unno, maybe one day. "Not as bad as the other stuff" isn't very high praise.

[sdp]

Stra Wars Rogue One is pretty safe, doesn't do anything to piss you off but it also does nothing to excite you which is why no one remembers anything from the movie. Rogue one isn't bad, just forgettable.
(https://miscrave.com/articles/rogue-one/)


The Vader scene is cool but doesn't make sense timeline wise since it's right before ANH. The villain in the movie is great as awesome as Tarkin but they gimped him when they added Vader and cut his scenes out, so you see the potential but instead if getting more we get Vader.

The robot was funny and there's a Force user who isn't a Jedi because they couldn't which hurts his character. I prefer the Kyle Katarn Dark Forces version of how they got the death star plans, it's more fun (https://miscrave.com/articles/x-wing-dark-forces/)


You cared enough to look up a two year old thread and post in it.

Vicious :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

You cared enough to look up a two year old thread and post in it.

I still post about STD, don't I? And that's like rubbing cat piss in my eyes and ears.

[Leo656]

I still post about STD, don't I? And that's like rubbing cat piss in my eyes and ears.

See, that part has me curious. For example, despite being a big DC fan I find the CW shows to be trash so I simply don't watch them. Or like, I hated "The Last Jedi" enough to know that I didn't need to see "Rise of Skywalker" (because nothing, no matter how well-intentioned, can fix the mess that movie made), so even though I loved old Star Wars I know not to mess with NuStar Wars.

So I've probably asked this before, but if NuTrek stuff is all so terrible - and by almost all accounts, all of it really, really is - why would any self-respecting Trek fan torture themselves with it? Like, at what point does a person have to just walk away?

I sincerely doubt anyone persists in the hope that "It might get better". :lol:

[IMJ]

Rogue One was a really good flick, but didn't think that Cassian Andor was all that great of a charcter and not overly interested in a series featuring him. I don't begrudge it though - I dunno maybe there are Cassian Andor fans?

[Barkworm]

"Not as bad as the other stuff" isn't very high praise.
It's really bad though. People hate TFA and I agree that it's the laziest script since Home Alone 2 but it had some fun action scenes and charismatic characters. Rogue One's got nothing, the story is boring, the characters are all completely forgettable and the scenes with Vader just make you wish you were watching the old movies. I'd also say that any Vader scene in the old trilogy was more badass than the ridiculously gratuitous fan service at the end of the movie.

[Leo656]

Really? I thought Rogue One was supposed to be "the best one since Empire". Huh.

I guess people talk.

[Barkworm]

Really? I thought Rogue One was supposed to be "the best one since Empire". Huh.

The best one since Empire was RotJ. I don't like to think about the rest. :lol:
I mean, I enjoyed Revenge of the Sith when it first came out but that one hasn't aged well.

[sdp]

Just watch it, you won't hate it, you'll just forget about it.

[Barkworm]

Just watch it, you won't hate it, you'll just forget about it.
Right, there's not much to hate about it. But to me, that makes it even worse. I enjoy a really ****** movie but Rogue One is not that, it's nothing but a waste of time.

[sdp]

You watch it once, it doesn't set your world on fire and you forget it but it doesn't mess anything up in the story of ANH. TFA on the other hand might have cool things here and there that are memorable but the plot completely screws up the story of star wars.

It's a pointless movie and I'd rather it not exist but no harm is done to the franchise.

[IMJ]

Just watch it, you won't hate it, you'll just forget about it.

Pretty much this. In some ways it's visual eyecandy. In general I have a hard time remembering the names of any of the "crew" and I don't find myself caring much about them.

But the movie is entertaining in it's own way, and it's given us what was absolutely some of the best 2 minutes or so of Darth Vader on screen ever.

[Andrew NDB]

The showrunner is excited because the show will be political, and be about refugees:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/andor-series-going-practical-political/

[Sumac]

The showrunner is excited because the show will be political, and be about refugees:
Because, rebels fighting against quasi-faschists is not political enough, I guess?

What those mother****ers are smoking? Is anything should represent current American politics? What about the rest of the world? What about subtlety?

Oh, wait, I've forgotten we are talking about talentless hacks, who are trying to make their name by either inserting political message of their own or just trying to change franchise as a whole to "leave a trace of their (worthless) existence".

[Andrew NDB]

If you don't like the message, it's because you're not getting enough of the message.

And if even then you don't like it, it's because they didn't explain it to you properly.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm agreeing with you. For goodness sake.

[Cowabung-Gal]

The showrunner is excited because the show will be political, and be about refugees:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/andor-series-going-practical-political/

Honestly, I’d be more surprised if it wasn’t political.

[Andrew NDB]

Viewership is super low on the show and keeps going lower:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/andor-viewer-engagement-is-rather-low/

[Sabacooza]

I don't get people's fascination with Andor. It has very little in it that makes it feel like Star Wars and it's boring as hell.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't get people's fascination with Andor. It has very little in it that makes it feel like Star Wars and it's boring as hell.

Yeah, I can't really wrap my head around anyone watching Rogue One and then saying, "You know what I want, prequels for the characters that all died in it."

Movie was OK, I guess. No part of me ever really wanted to revisit it.

[Sumac]

Rogue One was a decent movie. t least I can say it was much better than any of the Sequels, but tonally it was an extreme departure from everything which made Star Wars, well, Star Wars.

I don't understand fascination of some people with spin-offs, which take established universe into completely different tone, but, whatever.

[IMJ]

Star Wars is doing what Star Trek has done going way too far into the "prequel" world at this point.

Not every franchise needs to follow this now formulaic "prequel" release thing. It worked for Star Wars Episodes 1-3 because there was decades of conversation about who Darth Vader was and his rise. The prequels (good or bad) bordered on a holy account of things for that Universe.

But that opened the door for "prequel mania". Star Trek has now almost 100% been mired in prequels since the year 2001. With the exception of the "Rey" films, Star Wars has as well.

Prequels about Darth Vader not only mattered to canon, but to the hearts of fans. Nobody gives a flying $#!( about "Cassian Andor". :roll: There is no reason to tap the prequel well for that.

[CyberCubed]

I've watched the 7 eps so far and while you can tell the production values are above Boba-Fett/Obi-wan, the show is sadly kinda boring to me. It's basically Star Wars without the "fun" so to speak. I went into this with an open mind but it's not really doing it for me besides a few select scenes here and there.

I'll watch the rest of it as it airs to see where it goes, but it's not something I'll rewatch years later.

[Andrew NDB]

But that opened the door for "prequel mania". Star Trek has now almost 100% been mired in prequels since the year 2001. With the exception of the "Rey" films, Star Wars has as well.

Yeah, wtf. Especially with Star Trek it's like... let's boldly go... back to where we already went 50 years ago? Even on the same ship? Why?

With Star Wars, there is the unfortunate situation the sequel trilogy left Star Wars in, in that nobody cares to see new stories that take place after it.

[Sumac]

With Star Wars, there is the unfortunate situation the sequel trilogy left Star Wars in, in that nobody cares to see new stories that take place after it.
More like no-one in Disney knows what to do with its future.

They know that Sequels are extremely unpopular (as a whole) and waiting for the situation to cool off, before they can continue, but without ST stench around. Which means no Rey, no Finn and, probably, any acknowledgement of the ST as a whole.

Which is why they stuck with OT timeline and prequels.

Personally I hope they just make it, so ST never had happened and belongs to the alternate timeline or something to that effect, which is unlikely, but who knows.

[Andrew NDB]

So is Andor worth watching? What I've seen of it was a bore, but I'm hearing from people whose opinions I respect that "no no, just keep watching, it gets amazing," yet I'm having trouble imagining how that could possibly be.

[Sabacooza]

I've seen Andor in it's entirety. I couldn't wait for the series to be over. People that loved Andor saying this is what Star Wars should be, clearly don't understand what Star Wars is.

[Mayhem]

I've seen Andor in it's entirety. I couldn't wait for the series to be over. People that loved Andor saying this is what Star Wars should be, clearly don't understand what Star Wars is.
I loved it, it showed what was going on behind the scenes outside of the films. If you are a lover of pure action stuff, no it’s going to miss a few marks. It’s more like a crime drama with action bits dotted along the way. The Narkina 5 stuff has a pivotal connection to ANH and such a brilliant trilogy of episodes to boot. Also a couple of familiar faces there too…

[CyberCubed]

I honestly found the series really boring. I did not understand the praise at all. Maybe if it was condensed to 3-4 eps I would have liked it more.

[Autbot_Benz]

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[Autbot_Benz]

ANDOR will be releasing 3 episodes a week

Ep 1-3 Tuesday April 22nd

[CyberCubed]

So the attempted rape scene in episode 3 has the internet up in arms. Star Wars fans are outraged.

[IMJ]

Well apparently there is an entire generation of outraged young people who have been raped and "biased" against so they need the "counseling" for it in their art to pull through.

Show some sensitivity you bastard - everyone a victim of the bed intruder (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw) up in here.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't know that we need to get raped in *Star Wars*, but I do hate the idea in principle that bad guys are not allowed to be bad guys and there need to be some limits on what bad things they can fictionally do.

And this is generally the same school of thought that makes it toxic to make fictional black characters commit crimes and so on.

[IMJ]

I don't know that we need to get raped in *Star Wars*, but I do hate the idea in principle that bad guys are not allowed to be bad guys and there need to be some limits on what bad things they can fictionally do.

And this is generally the same school of thought that makes it toxic to make fictional black characters commit crimes and so on.

Well... I understand where you are coming from, but people go blind until confronted with something from within their own lens to shake them back into reality.

For example - for the intellectual millenial yuppies who argue for this content in Star Wars I'd say, okay well you're focused on "Star Wars" for this deeply logical argument about "an evil Empire". And so I say by that logic then Rita Repulsa showed be shown beheading miscellaneous enemies for body parts, and cooking and eating the remainder in her tyranny because she's basically an Evil Voodoo Priestess and that's basically what she'd actually be doing.

And yet the intellectual clown parade would push back on that for their beloved franchise-for-the-simple-minded because "well that's not what that world is about". Star Wars isn't about Social Justice or the social-plights of women. It's about resisting tyranny through Galactic Conflicts with space wizards. But even that is unacceptable to these pieces of $#!( because depicting an Evil Voodoo Priestess eating people might be "istaphobic" somehow, but depicting a man raping a woman? Well that? That's the world outside your window apparently.

A world of rape victims who were never raped and a world of slaves who were never slaves.

[CyberCubed]

Also the actress is hispanic and the Imperial officer came asking her about her Visa and said she was here illegally. Then he tried to rape her until she fought him off and killed him. This is in the Star Wars universe, mind you.

[IMJ]

Also the actress is hispanic and the Imperial officer came asking her about her Visa and said she was here illegally. Then he tried to rape her until she fought him off and killed him. This is in the Star Wars universe, mind you.

Ah. A parallel to modern America where South American immigrants are beaten and raped daily by the vile American-empirium all the time, by their logic.

I sincerely want to be there when the people with these sensibilities actually have to deal with a thing of some kind...

[Andrew NDB]

Oh, are we doing the Terminator: Woke Fart ICE revenge fantasy again? Ugh.

[CyberCubed]

All the citizens were gunned down by Stormtroopers as the riot broke out. Also the robot they captured in the end is the same one from the Rogue One movie.

Overall I do think this season is better than the first, but the lack of any real humor or adventure or even aliens makes it feel like anything else. If you didn't see Stormttrooper uniforms you'd forget you were watching Star Wars.

[Andrew NDB]

Are we expecting to see Donnie Yen show up in this at all?

[Autbot_Benz]

All the citizens were gunned down by Stormtroopers as the riot broke out. Also the robot they captured in the end is the same one from the Rogue One movie.

Overall I do think this season is better than the first, but the lack of any real humor or adventure or even aliens makes it feel like anything else. If you didn't see Stormttrooper uniforms you'd forget you were watching Star Wars.

Ya Episode 8 was fantastic. So was Episode 7