Blue Beetle Film in the works

[Autbot_Benz]

There is a new superhero in the movie mix, and his name is Jaime Reyes, a.k.a. Blue Beetle. DC and Warner Bros. are developing a Blue Beetle movie, the first Latino-led standalone superhero feature, according to The Wrap. Mexican-born screenwriter Gareth Dunnet-Alcocer will pen the screenplay, with Zev Foreman executive producing for Warner Bros.

Jaime Reyes’ Blue Beetle first appeared in comic form in 2006’s Infinite Crisis #3 (and makes our list of the 20 DC superheroes we still need to see on the big or small screen). Reyes has appeared on the small screen, briefly, in the CW series Smallville, as well as in animated form in Young Justice. As Gregory Ellwood wrote, “Unlike Ted Kord, whose Beetle would remind most moviegoers of Owl Man in Watchmen, Reyes’ abilities are provided by the powerful Blue Beetle scarab which has fused itself to his back. It transforms into a protective suit of armor around him that if you described as an alien Iron Man suit wouldn’t be that off base.”
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Image via DC Comics

Mexican-American teenager Jaime Reyes is the third iteration of the character, and as The Wrap adds, “[he] discovered the Blue Beetle scarab on the way home from school with two of his best friends Paco and Brenda, half-buried in a disused lot. Reyes took the scarab home, curious as to what it might be. That night, the scarab came alive, and grafted itself to the base of Jaime’s spine, and provided him with a suit of extraterrestrial armor which can be modified to enhance his speed and strength, as well as to create weapons, wings and shields.”

A few years ago (2015 to be exact), there were rumors of a Booster Gold and Blue Beetle team-up movie, helmed by CW super-producer Greg Berlanti. That version would have featured the Ted Kord version of Blue Beetle, which honestly, we don’t really need. Jamie Reyes gives us something new and different within the crowded superhero landscape. Though there are Latino characters within the DC movie universe, (like Jay Hernandez as El Diablo in Suicide Squad, and Rosie Perez as Renee Montoya in the upcoming Birds of Prey), this is certainly the first Latino hero to lead a solo film.

http://collider.com/blue-beetle-movie-jaime-reyes/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#comic

[MikeandRaph87]

Will this actually go forward or like Blue & Gold remain in development hell? Ted Kord is my young sibling's favorite hero so another failed push for Reyes is DC pushing diversity over quality.

[Candy Kappa]

Kord is cute and all in the bwahaha league, but Reyes is the best Beetle.

[Autbot_Benz]

Will this actually go forward or like Blue & Gold remain in development hell? Ted Kord is my young sibling's favorite hero so another failed push for Reyes is DC pushing diversity over quality.

Reyes is more popular and is the current Blue Beetle so it makes sense. Not to mention Reyes is on young justice and is in the Injustice and Lego DC Super Villains game too

[Autbot_Benz]

Blue Beetle will be an HBO MAX movie so not in theaters

For HBO Max, Steven Soderbergh recently wrapped shooting on his feature “Kimi,” starring Zoë Kravitz. Also on the docket: a Latinx re-imagining of “Father of the Bride” starring Andy Garcia and a “House Party” reboot from LeBron James’ production company Spring Hill Entertainment. Additionally, Warner Bros. has mid-budget DC movies on the way for streaming, “Batgirl” and “Blue Beetle.”

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-06-08/can-warner-bros-keep-movie-dreams-alive

[Autbot_Benz]

‘Cobra Kai’ Star Xolo Maridueña in Talks to Star as Latino Superhero ‘Blue Beetle’ for HBO Max (Exclusive)

“Corba Kai” breakout Xolo Maridueña is in talks to star in the lead role of Jaime Reyes in “Blue Beetle” for HBO Max, Warner Bros. and DC Films first superhero movie starring a Latino character, TheWrap has exclusively learned.


https://www.thewrap.com/cobra-kai-star-xolo-mariduena-in-talks-to-star-as-latino-superhero-blue-beetle-for-hbo-max-exclusive/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Andrew NDB]

‘Cobra Kai’ Star Xolo Maridueña in Talks to Star as Latino Superhero ‘Blue Beetle’ for HBO Max (Exclusive)



https://www.thewrap.com/cobra-kai-star-xolo-mariduena-in-talks-to-star-as-latino-superhero-blue-beetle-for-hbo-max-exclusive/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Hah. I'm not super interested in a Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle movie... but that guy would be perfect.

[Leo656]

Yeah, he'd be a good fit but I'm only interested in Ted Kord as Blue Beetle.

[Andrew NDB]

Coming to theaters after all. 8/18/23.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/blue-beetle-skips-hbo-max-for-cinemas/

[Autbot_Benz]

Sharon Stone in final talks to be playing a Villain Specifically for this movie Victoria Kord


Also Raoul Max Trujillo (Mayans M.C.) has also joined the cast as secondary antagonist, Carapax the Indestructible Man.

https://comicbookmovie.com/blue_beetle/blue-beetle-sharon-stone-in-final-talks-to-play-the-villainous-victoria-kord-a192906#gs.v4kkom

[Sumac]

Wasn't she playing villain in a Catwoman with Hally Berry?

[Autbot_Benz]

Blue Beetle will be in theaters Aug. 18, 2023

Announced at Cinemacon

https://twitter.com/TheRochaSays/status/1519099773222981633

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/4gIKwX1.jpg

[Coola Yagami]

Fuuuck. It looks just like him. This is what effort looks like.

[Leo656]

Yeah, I really don't care about Jaime Reyes at all - I bought the entire first run of his Blue Beetle series and for the life of me I can't remember a single thing that happened in it except for him having a fight with Guy Gardner in the first issue, and a bunch of "Who Is Black Beetle?" stuff that went f*cking NOWHERE and was nothing but fake-out "reveal" after fake-out "reveal", which got annoying really fast - but I gotta give them props, the suit looks like he just stepped right off the comics' page.

I probably won't see it, but it looks like they're trying at least. They've got more wiggle room with this property than most of their bigger ones, because as I said, the actual Blue Beetle comics with Jaime were SO much "nothing" that they can pretty much do anything they want with the movie and it'll feel like an improvement.

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah, I really don't care about Jaime Reyes at all - I bought the entire first run of his Blue Beetle series and for the life of me I can't remember a single thing that happened in it except for him having a fight with Guy Gardner in the first issue, and a bunch of "Who Is Black Beetle?" stuff that went f*cking NOWHERE and was nothing but fake-out "reveal" after fake-out "reveal", which got annoying really fast - but I gotta give them props, the suit looks like he just stepped right of the comics' page.

I probably won't see it, but it looks like they're trying at least. They've got more wiggle room with this property than most of their bigger ones, because as I said, the actual Blue Beetle comics with Jaime were SO much "nothing" that they can pretty much do anything they want with the movie and it'll feel like an improvement.

I just hope they don't go overboard with 'ese', 'homes' and 'vato' and whatnot.

[Leo656]

They might. The original Jaime series was much less a "super-hero" comic and more about being a young Latino in a small town with a traditional overprotective Hispanic family and how he couldn't tell his mother (or someone, I forget) he was a super-hero because the shock would be too much and might kill her, all that stuff.

I don't remember it necessarily becoming self-parody with all that stuff, but it was definitely way more concerned with being a book about a Latino boy and his family that only incidentally had anything super-hero related. Which I'm sure spoke strongly to a certain audience but did nothing for me, personally. I kept wanting to see if they were actually going to do anything significant with this brand new character they just "had" to kill off Ted Kord to make room for, but they really never did. He peaked with his first real story, where his scarab armor made him invisible to Brother Eye during Infinite Crisis, and after that it was just family dinners and stuff going on at school.

I guess it was kind of like early Spider-Man with some Hispanic flavor and I get that. I wouldn't say it was "bad", I know a lot of people really love it; I personally just found it way too slow and uneventful. Again, the Black Beetle stuff became such a meme so fast they even started parodying it in the stories themselves. "I'm really ______ from the future... OR AM I?!" :lol:

I'unno, it was okay, just not my kind of super-hero stuff. I'm okay with slice of life stuff but I much prefer the balance be more like 80/20 in favor of "actual super-hero stuff". I can see why it had an audience but it fell to the bottom of my monthly reading pile very quickly. I kept waiting for it to feel "important" and it never, ever did.

[Andrew NDB]

Saw this on FB:

"George Lopez, a cast member in DC's upcoming #BlueBeetle movie, has seemingly revealed that the film will feature a cameo by none other than Ben Affleck's #Batman !
Blue Beetle, one of the few DC Universe film projects to survive the Warner Bros. content purge, will apparently feature a cameo from an A-list hero... at least if cast member George Lopez was being serious in a recent interview.
In an appearance on The Bryon Scott Podcast, Lopez, who plays Rudy Reyes, the uncle of the titular hero, lauded the film for its imminent unveiling of "the first Latino superhero," wrought by a Latino producer, writer and director. The film will see Cobra Kai breakout actor Xolo Maridueña embody the starring role as the Mexican-American teen-turned superhero Jaime Reyes/Blue Beetle, and Lopez explained how the film could potentially yield as many as 10 more appearances, per his own contract. However, he may have taken his comments about the film's prospects a tad too far when he -- in a somewhat nonchalant manner -- dropped some potent news about a secret cameo in the film, stating, "I think Batman is in our movie.""

Interesting. And if it's Affleck... is this something refilmed from Keaton?

[CyberCubed]

For some reason I didn't realize the same spanish kid from Cobra Kai was Blue Beetle. His role as Miguel seems to be coming to an end, I wonder if this will be a breakout movie for him.

[Powder]

This is the only blue beetle I'm interested in-

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJ00D0pX0AMJJuJ.png

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/cjmVVue.jpg

[Coola Yagami]

https://i.imgur.com/cjmVVue.jpg

Please don't make him all 'QUE HUBOLE ESE, QUE ONDA HOOOOOMEEES' and all that nonsense.

Non-stereotypical Hispanics living in America do exist ya know. It's not like they're making Kamala blurt out foreign words every other sentence.

[IMJ]

Non-stereotypical Hispanics living in America do exist ya know.

Just men with heritage. Not "Hispanic-American men" or "Latinx-Men" or some other identifier that adds ego or signals your "trials" or some nonsense. Just "men".

In this case an American man who is Blue Beetle who happens to be hispanic. Cool. No sweat, let's do it.

But in truth, it's not commonly hispanic-culture that has to signal their color before every identifier anyway.

[CyberCubed]

I hope he says, "Ay caramba!" "Dios mio!" and "Andale andale!" In every sentence.

[IMJ]

Dude....

:teek:

OMG :P

wtf :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

Just men with heritage. Not "Hispanic-American men" or "Latinx-Men" or some other identifier that adds ego or signals your "trials" or some nonsense. Just "men".

In this case an American man who is Blue Beetle who happens to be hispanic. Cool. No sweat, let's do it.

But in truth, it's not commonly hispanic-culture that has to signal their color before every identifier anyway.

We don't. It's woke white people that do it for us. We're not people to them, they constantly have to remind us what we are, what color we are, what we should be called, how to think, act and vote and to stay in our lane.


I hope he says, "Ay caramba!" "Dios mio!" and "Andale andale!" In every sentence.

lmao oh **** you, honky.

[CyberCubed]

Didn't they just do that in the new Spiderman movie? The Spanish kids mother was speaking in English and throws in a Spanish word at the end of every sentence.

Same thing happened in the Miles Morales game on PS4/PS5

[IMJ]

Didn't they just do that in the new Spiderman movie? The Spanish kids mother was speaking in English and throws in a Spanish word at the end of every sentence.

Same thing happened in the Miles Morales game on PS4/PS5

I think when ignorant pop-culture writers do that, they pride themselves on capturing the language-efforts of an immigrant.

Ironic, isn't it, that in their agenda to attack stereotypes that liberals so often know only "stereotypes". Like when when they made Miles Morales into "thor' in the comics and he literally went around New Asgard rapping in in the entire comic.

That's liberalism in pop culture.

[Sumac]

Ironic, isn't it, that in their agenda to attack stereotypes that liberals so often know only "stereotypes". Like when when they made Miles Morales into "thor' in the comics and he literally went around New Asgard rapping in in the entire comic.
Lefties. Lefties never change.

[Autbot_Benz]

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[IMJ]

Maybe Warner Bros will add a much needed "Spider-Man" to their lineup with this one.... the trailer looked good. Unfortunately 1st super-hero movies are incredibly formulaic. Relying almost completely on the confusion/acceptance/adaptation of the character across the Origin story.

[Andrew NDB]

Trailer didn't do anything for me, but it might be fun. Xolo might bring in some of the Cobra Kai crowd.

Is Susan Sarandon the big bad guy?

[Cowabung-Gal]

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Welp, I’m not surprised.

Why does he think it’s okay to call Batman a “fascist”? Especially if he’s trying to make money with a DC movie?

[Andrew NDB]

"My job is done here"? Yeah, I'm with that first guy. I was willing to give it a chance but now forget it. These kind of people don't need to be rewarded.

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I know nothing about Blue Beetle the comic character.

But judging from that trailer it seems very much like the Anime Guyver: The Bio Booster Armour that is something I've always dug.

[Andrew NDB]

This had the potential to be a small, cute, fun little movie... but every time the trailer pops up in the movie theater a bunch of people are jeering it. "That looks BAD!" and so on.

[CyberCubed]

It just has "direct to streaming" vibes to it. Feels like a movie that should of just debuted on HBO Max or something.

[ZariusTwo]

I know nothing about Blue Beetle the comic character.

But judging from that trailer it seems very much like the Anime Guyver: The Bio Booster Armour that is something I've always dug.

Guyver is one of those franchises that never got as big in Japan as it did in the west, which is why you don't see more of it.

[Andrew NDB]

lol... "We promise, our movie is part of the NEW DCEU! Not the old, like Flash! Please see our movie!"

https://www.darkhorizons.com/blue-beetle-part-of-the-new-dcu/

[Andrew NDB]

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[Monty Mole]

This movie looks lame as hell

[Autbot_Benz]

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[CyberCubed]

Kinda reminds me of Iron Man honestly. I only know Blue Beetle through Young Justice.

I'm glad Mexicans get their own superhero so they can feel "represented" though. Because we know people can't relate to white superheroes if they're not white themselves. Save reason Miles Morales exists.

[oldmanwinters]

I would like for this movie to do well, but with the way things have been going for DC movies of late... I don't have any confidence this is going to turn the tide.

[Andrew NDB]

Did George Lopez really say, "You're a superhero, cabron!" ?

I still don't even get a good sense of what the movie is about. He gets the scarab, Susan Sarandon (from the government, I'm assuming?) wants it back, and then random goon becomes a cyborg and wants to kill him? Are these villains even from the comics or are they doing a Shazam 2?

[Autbot_Benz]

Did George Lopez really say, "You're a superhero, cabron!" ?

I still don't even get a good sense of what the movie is about. He gets the scarab, Susan Sarandon (from the government, I'm assuming?) wants it back, and then random goon becomes a cyborg and wants to kill him? Are these villains even from the comics or are they doing a Shazam 2?

Susan Sarandon plays Victoria Kord who was created for the film

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Victoria_Kord_(Prime_Earth)

Carpax is the cyborg guy in the movie he is an actual villain who fought the second Blue Beetle
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Conrad_Carapax_(New_Earth)

[Coola Yagami]

Word on Twitter is how nobody really seems to be talking about the movie, especially not the Hispanics this is apparently supposed to cater to.

[IMJ]

I think it looks good, but I'm on the fence. I feel like it's clinging to "Summer Blockbuster" but will fall more into the "Spykids" territory of movies.

Also not a fan of the some of the responses to the whole "Batman is a fascist" thing, which quite frankly I'm turned off by completely when anyone uses that word in a modern context of what they think it means. Didn't feel funny - just felt like onboarding.

But I don't know - this one is probably a Netflix click for me but not a theater ticket buy.

[Monty Mole]

It kinda looks like Invincible for kids.

If this was movie was coming out in 2010, it might be fine. But this genre has been done to death.

[IMJ]

It kinda looks like Invincible for kids.

If this was movie was coming out in 2010, it might be fine. But this genre has been done to death.

Yeah it seems like Direct to video knockoff of every superhero origins story with every origin story trope involved.

[MikeandRaph87]

Yeah it seems like Direct to video knockoff of every superhero origins story with every origin story trope involved.


I saw it advertised during the MLB all-star game. I swear I thought it was a made for streaming film. It sure looks it quality-wise.

Should have used Ted Kord and its okay to be a supporting hero. Reis fails whenever DC pushes the character.


How much will this bomb? This won't have multiple Batman and other Justice League members to help soften the nuke.

[Andrew NDB]

Should have used Ted Kord and its okay to be a supporting hero. Request fails whenever DC pushes the character.

They should have just had Ted Kord be the Hank Pym to Jaime Reyes' Scott Lang, at least. I know they're not concerned in the least with old school Blue Beetle fans but if they're out there this is probably all pretty insulting.

[MikeandRaph87]

They should have just had Ted Kord be the Hank Pym to Jaime Reyes' Scott Lang, at least. I know they're not concerned in the least with old school Blue Beetle fans but if they're out there this is probably all pretty insulting.

Agreed. It's the best of both worlds. Two failed comics, a failed back up yet Reyes keeps getting pushed. Ted isn't top tier either, but he is a likeable supporting hero.


Ted Kord is my younger sibling's favorite hero so there could be some subconscious bias. I know he was one of four on Didio's hate list with my Barbara, Dick, and Wally. It's cool to see Waid using him as a JLA reserve in the revised Earth-1 era in World's Finest.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean, you go back not even that far and you'll find a ton of love for Ted Kord and Booster Gold's adventures in and out of the JLE. All of that out the window for Mexican Iron-Boy, essentially.

I had no real horse in the race myself, necessarily, but I felt for the Kord fans for sure.

[Sumac]

At least villain design is cool (yeah, you can buy attention by designing a cool cyborg-like thing).

[IMJ]

Agreed. It's the best of both worlds. Two failed comics, a failed back up yet Reyes keeps getting pushed. Ted isn't top tier either, but he is a likeable supporting hero.


Ted Kord is my younger sibling's favorite hero so there could be some subconscious bias. I know he was one of four on Didio's hate list with my Barbara, Dick, and Wally. It's cool to see Waid using him as a JLA reserve in the revised Earth-1 era in World's Finest.

Same thing they keep doing with Ms. Marvel. And now it's even more of a cluster because she has "stretching powers" in the comics but energy powers in the movies. Awful.

And now, Blue Beetle has "wish armor".

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently illegal immigration will be a big allegory in this.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/07/11/after-the-flash-and-its-cameos-cratered-at-the-box-office-blue-beetle-star-promises-film-includes-more-than-one-character-that-youll-recognize/

[Sumac]

Apparently illegal immigration will be a big allegory in this.
Kill me. :roll:

Alternatively how about immigrants fix their shithole countries, instead of running to other ones?

[ZariusTwo]

The lead actor is calling on fans to get creative and promote the movie on behalf of himself and the crew as he can't do it legally because of the SAG strike.

[oldmanwinters]

The lead actor is calling on fans to get creative and promote the movie on behalf of himself and the crew as he can't do it legally because of the SAG strike.

So not only is it the fans’ job to buy tickets, but we also have to shill as PR simps without compensation?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

The lead actor is calling on fans to get creative and promote the movie on behalf of himself and the crew as he can't do it legally because of the SAG strike.

The lead actor can go **** himself lol

[CyberCubed]

It seems they're really promoting this movie toward hispanics and Mexicans. I guess they feel you guys need to be "represented" in a movie since of course hispanics cannot relate to white heroes. That's probably why the movie will also bring up the immigration issues in Mexico about "crossing the border" and "the wall" so Mexicans can relate to other Mexicans about how oppressed they were.

[Coola Yagami]

It seems they're really promoting this movie toward hispanics and Mexicans. I guess they feel you guys need to be "represented" in a movie since of course hispanics cannot relate to white heroes. That's probably why the movie will also bring up the immigration issues in Mexico about "crossing the border" and "the wall" so Mexicans can relate to other Mexicans about how oppressed they were.

And that's why it will fail. Any self respecting Hispanic will not give a **** about any of that ****.

Like I was still in Mexico when Iron Man 1 hit. It was packed with comic book nerds thrilled to see Tony Stark come to life. Obviously it was all Hispanics, not one of them said 'this movie would be even better if Tony was Mexican or if he had a funny Mexican sidekick.' same sentiment with Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.

I was already in the US by the time Ant-Man came out, and that one we rented on video so we missed out on the theater experience (we still had Family Video until the pandemic killed it). I wonder how Mexican theaters would have reacted to Luis's shenanigans.

[IMJ]

The lead actor is calling on fans to get creative and promote the movie on behalf of himself and the crew as he can't do it legally because of the SAG strike.

Probably would have actually had success with that had they actually targeted "comic book fans" in a grass roots movement while they made the movie.

But instead they are targeting politically active Hispanic families, sooo......

[Coola Yagami]

Probably would have actually had success with that had they actually targeted "comic book fans" in a grass roots movement while they made the movie.

But instead they are targeting politically active Hispanic families, sooo......

An almost non-existent audience lol.

[Andrew NDB]

But instead they are targeting politically active Hispanic families, sooo......

Who are generally voting (if they are here legally) republican and not into the woke/LGBTQ agenda.

[IMJ]

Who are generally voting (if they are here legally) republican and not into the woke/LGBTQ agenda.

Yeah... unless you are here in Chicago. Her whole family is a blast at party's when they start talking about the state of the country... :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

Who are generally voting (if they are here legally) republican and not into the woke/LGBTQ agenda.

Reminds me of when my stepbros and I had arguments cause all of em were Trump fans. We had minor bickerings though, I was never the 'YOU'RE NO LONGER FAMILY' kind of person so there was no love lost. At least when it comes to me, blood is thicker than politics, and that was while I was still on the left. I guess that's one of the several things that snapped me out of it, when I thought to myself 'yeah, they voted for Trump but I mean.... they're family. Why is everyone else so quick to break up family over that big orange dope?'

Though I wonder if it woulda been different if they were Bernie bros. The left always seems to be quick to disown family and brag about it.

[oldmanwinters]

This is already being predicted to be a historic flop. I wonder if WB will chicken out and pull most of the marketing budget in preparation to just eat the loss.

I actually do want to see it.

[Zulithe]

Tickets already went on sale. I think it's incredibly rare to pull a movie once that has happened.

I'm probably going to see it... just not expecting a lot from it. I actually think there is a chance I'll like it more than the upcoming Aquaman 2 though based on what we are hearing about that production. And The Flash wasn't good either. If I weren't such a stooge for Michael Keaton's Batman it would have almost no redeeming value at all.

[Dpooly84]

Big ol' floppy donkey D, you're a super hero calbron lmao fail

[oldmanwinters]

Tickets already went on sale. I think it's incredibly rare to pull a movie once that has happened.
.

I just meant stop running advertisements or slash the budget drastically.

[Dpooly84]

They have to pull snow white after thier disastrous set photo leaks. I don't think this is the same, they're just gonna send it out to die.

[CyberCubed]

I don't know what they were thinking making a movie about Blue Beetle to begin with. Most people do not even know who this character is.

[Sumac]

You could say the same about Ant-Man or Guardians of Galaxy few years ago.

[Andrew NDB]

Xolo pleads with people to watch the movie because a Latino superhero is very important.

https://fandomwire.com/we-have-to-cross-the-first-hill-right-xolo-mariduena-pleads-dc-fans-after-disheartening-17-million-box-office-prediction/

Also the movie is only expected to earn about 50 million it's whole run.

[Dpooly84]

You could say the same about Ant-Man or Guardians of Galaxy few years ago.

It's a fair comparison, growing up with Marvel I knew Hank Pym as Ant-man not scott Lang and I knew Ted Kord as blue Beatle not whoever this kid is supposed to be.

[Barkworm]

While I'm kind of interested in seeing what James Gunn will do with his DCU, ever since he's taken over it's been epic flop after flop. This must have some of the hacks at Warner concerned, doesn't it?!

[Andrew NDB]

While I'm kind of interested in seeing what James Gunn will do with his DCU, ever since he's taken over it's been epic flop after flop. This must have some of the hacks at Warner concerned, doesn't it?!

He has his get out of jail free card until after Aquaman 2 comes out, when Gunn's new actual material starts coming out. All he can do now is make them do reshoots and such.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Xolo pleads with people to watch the movie because a Latino superhero is very important.

https://fandomwire.com/we-have-to-cross-the-first-hill-right-xolo-mariduena-pleads-dc-fans-after-disheartening-17-million-box-office-prediction/

Also the movie is only expected to earn about 50 million it's whole run.

He’s most likely the type who thinks that Speedy Gonzales should be cancelled even though the Hispanic community loves him.

[Sumac]

It's a fair comparison, growing up with Marvel I knew Hank Pym as Ant-man not scott Lang and I knew Ted Kord as blue Beatle not whoever this kid is supposed to be.
Most people never heard of either of them.

While I'm kind of interested in seeing what James Gunn will do with his DCU, ever since he's taken over it's been epic flop after flop. This must have some of the hacks at Warner concerned, doesn't it?!
Because, those movies were made under previous regime.

I don't think even Gunn has enough clout to ask WB to shut down them and never to release.

[Andrew NDB]

Bane creator responds to Blue Beetle director claiming Bane represents American interventionism in Latin America:

https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/08/08/bane-creator-graham-nolan-reacts-to-blue-beetle-director-claiming-the-character-represents-american-interventionism-in-latin-america/

[Roseangelo]

If Blue Beetle out performs Mutant Mayhem, I will cackle.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

If Blue Beetle out performs Mutant Mayhem, I will cackle.

Here's hoping.

[oldmanwinters]

Bane creator responds to Blue Beetle director claiming Bane represents American interventionism in Latin America:

https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/08/08/bane-creator-graham-nolan-reacts-to-blue-beetle-director-claiming-the-character-represents-american-interventionism-in-latin-america/

His Tweets are funny in their bluntness:

https://twitter.com/gnolan12/status/1688673626667552769

https://twitter.com/gnolan12/status/1688688399165612032

https://twitter.com/gnolan12/status/1688688825755725824

https://twitter.com/gnolan12/status/1688949915601321984

Why the heck did Blue Beetle’s direction feel the need to psycho-analyze and deconstruct Bane if he’s not even in the movie?

[Sumac]

Blue Beetle director got high on his own farts and decided to attack random character.

Imagine being such attention seeking whore and retarded pathetic fool, you think working on a ****** movie about C rate character no-one gives a **** about, makes you important enough to provide opinion about other characters. And from the same company you're working on. no less.

Beetle of the brain on a full display here.

Also, "that's a lot of horseshit" is a most appropriate answer in this situation or for the most accusations of leftards.

[Coola Yagami]

Bane creator responds to Blue Beetle director claiming Bane represents American interventionism in Latin America:

https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/08/08/bane-creator-graham-nolan-reacts-to-blue-beetle-director-claiming-the-character-represents-american-interventionism-in-latin-america/

Honestly though, the only thing that resonated with me about Bane was that

1- He broke the Bat

2- He was the new modern-day Batman villain of the 90's that became a classic. Joker and Catwoman were around for years but for many of us 90's kids, we were 'there' when Bane was created and made his big debut.

His race never meant a thing to me.

[Andrew NDB]

His race never meant a thing to me.

It didn't until I read "Vengeance of Bane," which is his first appearance and origin. He's supposed to come from the DC fictional version of Cuba with some very Castro/Cuba-like underpinings, and cultural stuff with Bane and his mother. Sure, you could make him come from Russia or something in the same way you could have Bruce Wayne come from Zaire, but it seems pretty fundamental in the character.

But no, the socio-political stuff the Blue Beetle guy was trying to grasp at for his Bane movie pitch don't exist anywhere in the source material or the creators' intentions. But the race itself, yes.

[Barkworm]

If Blue Beetle out performs Mutant Mayhem, I will cackle.
How is it supposed to do that? So far it looks like it is going to be a complete box office disaster. It might make as little money in total as Mutant Mayhem in it's opening week. And on a much higher budget.

[Andrew NDB]

It may be somewhat interesting, but we'd have to look at it on a sliding scale, comparatively.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I'm still somewhat interested in this movie. It may not be good but hopefully it'll be entertaining.

[IMJ]

Why the heck did Blue Beetle’s direction feel the need to psycho-analyze and deconstruct Bane if he’s not even in the movie?


Because he is doing his neo-privldged, "that's ours!" thing that liberal-POCs do nowadays to create an atmosphere of pride-via-outrage instead of finding any positivity that lingers in the culture on it's own merits.

[Autbot_Benz]

Post Credit Scene have been revealed.

The First one will be of interest to Comic Fans

In the movie, we're told that the villainous Victoria Kord's son Ted, aka the original Blue Beetle in the comics, had vanished without a trace while conducting some kind of experiment, and is presumed dead. Then, in the first stinger, we hear a message from Ted come through (possibly from an alternate dimension?). We don't actually see his face, but he makes it clear that he is Ted Kord, and asks that if anyone can hear his voice that they let his daughter know that he's alive.

https://comicbookmovie.com/blue-beetle/blue-beetle-details-on-both-post-credits-scenes-possibly-revealed---spoilers-a204927#gs.49e0y7

[Barkworm]

It's been gaining some ground and might make as much as 30 million in its opening weekend.

https://deadline.com/2023/08/box-office-blue-beetle-projection-1235456911/

[Andrew NDB]

Post Credit Scene have been revealed.

The First one will be of interest to Comic Fans

Wow, that's going to blow the roof off the theater when everyone sees that. :roll:

[oldmanwinters]

It's been gaining some ground and might make as much as 30 million in its opening weekend.

https://deadline.com/2023/08/box-office-blue-beetle-projection-1235456911/

Surely it would benefit somewhat from a low-competition month as regards big-budget new releases.
Looks like WB really is trying hard with TV commercials, so they ain't giving up on it entirely.

[Coola Yagami]

But no, the socio-political stuff the Blue Beetle guy was trying to grasp at for his Bane movie pitch don't exist anywhere in the source material or the creators' intentions. But the race itself, yes.

I only seen Blue Beetle (Jaime version) in certain comics where he cameoed or crossed over alongside others like Miss Martian and Damian, and in them he was mostly just a dude. Y'know, a superhero. He might use the occasional Spanish word, but his entire personality wasn't HEY ESE, I'M HISPANIC, LOOK HOW HISPANIC I AM HOMES, WHERE THE TACOS AT, CAUSE ALL WE EAT ARE TACOS, MANG' and whatnot.

[Andrew NDB]

I only seen Blue Beetle (Jaime version) in certain comics where he cameoed or crossed over alongside others like Miss Martian and Damian, and in them he was mostly just a dude. Y'know, a superhero. He might use the occasional Spanish word, but his entire personality wasn't HEY ESE, I'M HISPANIC, LOOK HOW HISPANIC I AM HOMES, WHERE THE TACOS AT, CAUSE ALL WE EAT ARE TACOS, MANG' and whatnot.

I was talking about Bane in that bit, but you are correct in that way just the same. And myself being Hispanic, the best thing I can point to is Kyle Rayner, the Green Lantern of the 90s. Like all of the 90s almost, into the 2000s. He was my guy, he brought me in. And he was introduced as a white guy. What did Judd Winnick do, around #150 or so of vol. 3 (for reference, Kyle showed up in #51 of the volume)? Make his dad suddenly a Mexican guy. My first reaction was, this feels like pandering and dumb, but OK, whatever, I'll accept it. But on no level whatsoever was this like a, "Wow!! Here I am on the comic page! Validated at last!" because that seemed stupid and weak and I knew it at 12 without anyone telling me a goddamned thing.

Years later I hoped they'd keep developing the Mexican dad. But you know what happened? Subsequent writers forgot they'd already introduced Kyle's dad, so they kept reintroducing new dads for Kyle. Twice, I believe. Always thinking they were the first ones to do it. I hate DC editorial so much beyond 2012-ish.

[Coola Yagami]

I was talking about Bane in that bit, but you are correct in that way just the same. And myself being Hispanic, the best thing I can point to is Kyle Rayner, the Green Lantern of the 90s. Like all of the 90s almost, into the 2000s. He was my guy, he brought me in. And he was introduced as a white guy. What did Judd Winnick do, around #150 or so of vol. 3 (for reference, Kyle showed up in #51 of the volume)? Make his dad suddenly a Mexican guy. My first reaction was, this feels like pandering and dumb, but OK, whatever, I'll accept it. But on no level whatsoever was this like a, "Wow!! Here I am on the comic page! Validated at last!" because that seemed stupid and weak and I knew it at 12 without anyone telling me a goddamned thing.

Years later I hoped they'd keep developing the Mexican dad. But you know what happened? Subsequent writers forgot they'd already introduced Kyle's dad, so they kept reintroducing new dads for Kyle. Twice, I believe. Always thinking they were the first ones to do it. I hate DC editorial so much beyond 2012-ish.

I mean... were the other dads also Hispanic? I guess the mom was white, no Hispanic I know would name their kid an overly white name like Kyle.

[IMJ]

I actually expect this one to be more entertaining than expected in a very formulaic way.

But I'm not paying to see it.

[Sumac]

Years later I hoped they'd keep developing the Mexican dad. But you know what happened? Subsequent writers forgot they'd already introduced Kyle's dad, so they kept reintroducing new dads for Kyle. Twice, I believe. Always thinking they were the first ones to do it. I hate DC editorial so much beyond 2012-ish.
The whole hilarity and ineptitude of this is beyond the scale.

[ZariusTwo]

The RT score is 88% so far

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blue_beetle

Already though there are reviews that are reaching into the now-textbook inventory 'best DC movie in years' selling point

[oldmanwinters]

I really would like to see this, even though I feel like DC/WB has already push the BB storyline pretty heavily in the 2nd season of Young Justice and most of the Justice League vs. Teen Titans DTV film. Plus, BB was also a major recurring character in Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

[Coola Yagami]

I'll catch it on TV someday.

I mean nowadays a movie has to really be something to make me head out to see it. Like the Mario movie, or the upcoming FNAF movie.

[CyberCubed]

I'll watch it when it comes out in HD on the illegal streaming websites in about 2-3 months.

[Galactus]

It probably is the best DC film in years when you think the of stuff like Black Adam, Fury of the Gods and The Flash that they have been releasing lately.

I've always felt it was more than a little unfair this film seemed to carry all the baggage of the clusterf**k that has become of the DCEU and the general sense of superhero fatigue. In and of itself it looked pretty good...not groundbreaking or genre defining in any way but an entertaining Summer movie. Pre-pandemic this probably would have been a big success like Aquaman was. I'm kinda rooting for it even though it's next to impossible for it to do well.

[CyberCubed]

I think that's the issue, this movie is probably just average all things considered, it's just getting inflated reviews because of how bad a lot of the other recent movies were. If this movie came out during a steady stream of other high quality movies, reviewers would probably be more harsh on this.

[ZariusTwo]

It probably is the best DC film in years when you think the of stuff like Black Adam, Fury of the Gods and The Flash that they have been releasing lately.

All of which were also called by one critic or another 'the best DC film in years'

In The Flash's case, we just got done enduring a massive promotional campaign where leading figures in movies and literature were calling it the best superhero movie period.

Noone's gonna be fooled again by this

[Sumac]

All of which were also called by one critic or another 'the best DC film in years'

In The Flash's case, we just got done enduring a massive promotional campaign where leading figures in movies and literature were calling it the best superhero movie period.

Noone's gonna be fooled again by this
Unless, against all odds and ****** mouth of its representatives, it is a good movie.

[Andrew NDB]

I didn't even realize this was already out until I went to check showtime for "Strays." Let's see how badly this gets torpedoed, I guess. If it's a modest hit it'll be solely due to good vibes carried over from Cobra Kai viewers, I'd expect.

[oldmanwinters]

I didn't even realize this was out until I went to check showtime for "Strays." Let's see how badly this gets torpedoed, I guess. If it's a modest hit it'll be solely due to good vibes carried over from Cobra Kai viewers, I'd expect.

I saw some version of your post that said, “Let's see how badly this gets shellacked” and thought you might have given Mutant Mayhem begrudging respect at the box office!

[Andrew NDB]

I saw some version of your post that said, “Let's see how badly this gets shellacked” and thought you might have given Mutant Mayhem begrudging respect at the box office!

That's why I edited it. Because I realized that was exactly what people would think I was talking about (I wasn't). Though I'd be shocked if Mutant Mayhem in its third weekend beats Blue Beetle's debut. I'm actually guesstimating both movies will end up around the same, with Blue Beetle maybe making slightly more (but at a higher budget).

[oldmanwinters]

That's why I edited it. Because I realized that was exactly what people would think I was talking about (I wasn't). Though I'd be shocked if Mutant Mayhem in its third weekend beats Blue Beetle's debut. I'm actually guesstimating both movies will end up around the same, with Blue Beetle maybe making slightly more (but at a higher budget).

BB projected at around $30 million for the weekend. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[Andrew NDB]

I think BB has at least a shot at bigger international numbers than MM. But idk, let's see.

[Zulithe]

Been seeing a lot of people say they strongly liked it. I want to see it this weekend... but just had surgery Friday so might not feel up to it for a while.

[ZariusTwo]

Despite opening at just $25 million, Blue Beetle was able to knock Barbie off the number one spot

https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/box-office-blue-beetle-stumbles-opening-weekend-barbie-1235700676/

[Sumac]

I am really surprised by the reception. Its fun that in case of DC movies, those that supposed to be popular fail, but those which no-one hopes for, succeed.

Been seeing a lot of people say they strongly liked it. I want to see it this weekend... but just had surgery Friday so might not feel up to it for a while.
I good you have a good recovery.

[Barkworm]

I am really surprised by the reception. Its fun that in case of DC movies, those that supposed to be popular fail, but those which no-one hopes for, succeed.

Oh, it didn't bomb quite as hard as it was expected a month ago but it's definitely going to flop. A 43.4 million global opening in all major markets for a 100 million production is pretty awful. The cinema score is also bad so expect this to drop terribly next week.

[Sumac]

Oh, it didn't bomb quite as hard as it was expected a month ago but it's definitely going to flop. A 43.4 million global opening in all major markets for a 100 million production is pretty awful. The cinema score is also bad so expect this to drop terribly next week.
Still considering that a lot of people thought it'll be an unwatchable garbage, it is not so bad.

On a separate note: SJW trash, of course, had created conspiracy theory, which blames failure at the box-office on WB CEO Zaslav for not marketing movie as "the most important milestone for the Latino representation in the movies" (mind you, Latino always had a strong presence in Hollywood flicks, so why the **** those brain dead idiots, think it is a milestone?!).

I won't wish on anyone to be as retarded as those **** ups.

[Zulithe]

I good you have a good recovery.

I appreciate that. So far so good. Slow going though.

Blue Beetle is on my to-do list afterwards.

[MikeandRaph87]

The problem is that it's pushing a diverse agenda and not the hero itself. 'Hey, if you are Hispanic go see it!'. It cannot speak for the plot or the character himself, which looks like cardboard stereotypes. That speaks to me that if pushes a diverse agena and speaks nothing else it has no faith in the film. Also, if you behave the way the actor id online it makes me not want to see it and root for it to fail. How this is not on Max is mind-boggling. Trying to appease those of us who see Ted Kord as Blue Beetle by making up a daughter for Reyes to date and being offscreen? Nope, it didn't work.

[Andrew NDB]

The problem is that it's pushing a diverse agenda and not the hero itself. 'Hey, if you are Hispanic go see it!'. [

That just makes me significantly less likely to go and see it.

[Coola Yagami]

You'd think a movie about this alien bug thing fusing itself with someone and giving them all sorts of powers, with the person trying to not lose full control, even having to fight over the alien bug's control whenever it takes things too far and wants to kill someone would be a much bigger and more important selling point than 'hey, it's got Hispanics in it!!! if you're Hispanic, you better go see it ESE!"

Look at a similar character, Venom. For better or for worse, the trailers focused more on the alien goop taking control over a person and the big reveal to get their first look at a live action Venom with a better budget and effects. The movie stars a straight white male and it was never advertised as 'HEY, IF YOU'RE A MANLY MAN THAT LOVES ACTION, GO SEE THIS NOW, OR YOU'RE NOT A REAL MAN' or similar nonsense.

[Andrew NDB]

I think it's a little bit more telling that you had to go back as far as Venom to point to a comic book movie that was about a white guy with no diversity checklist stuff in the marketing. Sadly, it also wasn't very good either.

[Sumac]

'hey, it's got Hispanics in it!!! if you're Hispanic, you better go see it ESE!".
Funny thing, SJWtards don't understand that this approach is really racist and treats all Latino as a hivemind.

[CyberCubed]

It's hilarious how all the headlines I see is, "Finally a superhero for hispanics/latinos to relate to!"

Do they not realize how awful that sounds? Like spanish people can't relate to white heroes but can "only" relate to hispanic ones. So I guess all the hispanics who like Batman, Spider-man, Superman, etc over the last few decades must have been "pretending" because they can't relate to white heroes. :lol:

[Xav]

Warner Bros. Boss Blames Hurricane For Disappointing Box Office Turnout

https://www.cinemablend.com/superheroes/blue-beetle-warner-bros-boss-blames-hurricane-box-office-turnout

[IMJ]

Warner Bros. Boss Blames Hurricane For Disappointing Box Office Turnout

https://www.cinemablend.com/superheroes/blue-beetle-warner-bros-boss-blames-hurricane-box-office-turnout

:lol::lol::lol:
ah.

[oldmanwinters]

Warner Bros. Boss Blames Hurricane For Disappointing Box Office Turnout

https://www.cinemablend.com/superheroes/blue-beetle-warner-bros-boss-blames-hurricane-box-office-turnout

Totally!

:tlol:

[Andrew NDB]

Of course they would blame the weather.

[IMJ]

Of course they would blame the weather.

Hilary must have made landfall over the entire nation that weekend. Probably when I was sleeping here in Chicago and I missed it.

[Sumac]

Next time they're gonna blame position of stars.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Saw this today and I enjoyed it more than I’d expected to. Being this is only my second ever, I guess association with this character, the first being Young Justice, I think it’s a good intro to the character. I look forward to seeing what more they’ll do with the character

[Andrew NDB]

Best case, yeah, if this at least breaks even and doesn't get a sequel, it could be looked at as raising BB's stock ahead of some kind of ensemble movie he could be a big part of. Maybe.

[Coola Yagami]

For what it's worth, my bro liked it and he's not into the culture war stuff, so he saw it as an unbiased normie. He liked the cool powers. He like the family dynamic, which to be honest, the Hispanics are pretty much what are keeping the nuclear family alive in modern day, He liked the references to Chespito and Sabado Gigante and whatnot. He digged the music that ranged from 'your father's Mexican nusic' to the more modern Mexican music. Woke or not, Blue Beetle pretty much sounds like 'what if this superhero stuff happened in El Barrio instead of the usual whiteboy USA?'

I'm honestly curious if I can turn off the internet culture war bias and enjoy the movie on its own merits. Sometimes ignorance is blind. My bro is barely online so he misses out on any internet drama unless it's 'water cooler' talk at work.

[CyberCubed]

So did the film bomb or not?

[Andrew NDB]

So did the film bomb or not?

120 million production budget... only 30 million domestic in weekend #1, another 20 internationally. This is not gonna end well, for sure. Here it is compared to Shazam 2, which was a big flop:

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Blue-Beetle/Shazam-Fury-of-the-Gods-(2022)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

It's tracking even worse than Shazam 2.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Best case, yeah, if this at least breaks even and doesn't get a sequel, it could be looked at as raising BB's stock ahead of some kind of ensemble movie he could be a big part of. Maybe.

Maybe they could continue with a tv series

[IMJ]

Maybe they could continue with a tv series

That was the originally announced plan for this movie as I remember it.....

[TheCanadiandrome]

That was the originally announced plan for this movie as I remember it.....

Oh seriously? Hmm :ohwell:

[CyberCubed]

Kinda glad its bombing even if the movie itself seems fine, I don't want anyone to get a "big head" over the first hispanic superhero in a movie role (technically is that even true?)

[Dpooly84]

Kinda glad its bombing even if the movie itself seems fine, I don't want anyone to get a "big head" over the first hispanic superhero in a movie role (technically is that even true?)

I'd make an argument for Zorro or El Marachi, hell even Machete lol

[Coola Yagami]

I'd make an argument for Zorro or El Marachi, hell even Machete lol

You know how these woke people are. The past doesn't count, it only counts when they do it. We're at the point that they could make a woke horror movie and claim it's 'the first horror movie ever made'.

[Dpooly84]

You know how these woke people are. The past doesn't count, it only counts when they do it. We're at the point that they could make a woke horror movie and claim it's 'the first horror movie ever made'.

Your absolutely right but I also forgot about all the El Santo movies, he was fighting everybody. Real talk though, if you haven't seen El Marachi, it's great. It's the first movie in the Desperado trilogy.

[IMJ]

Your absolutely right but I also forgot about all the El Santo movies, he was fighting everybody. Real talk though, if you haven't seen El Marachi, it's great. It's the first movie in the Desperado trilogy.

"WHERE? Are the KEYS!? To my FUUH-KING CARRR?" :lol:

[Shark_Blade]

‘BLUE BEETLE’ hits digital platforms on September 19.

https://x.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1697623135179170101?s=61&t=XbRKCaz5w7UklaBbOEue_w

Huh that’s very early.

[Sumac]

Guess, they hope to make at least some money back.

[TheCanadiandrome]

‘BLUE BEETLE’ hits digital platforms on September 19.

https://x.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1697623135179170101?s=61&t=XbRKCaz5w7UklaBbOEue_w

Huh that’s very early.

seems to me that alot of movies have been hitting digital releases earlier and earlier these days, look at Flash, and John Wick 4

[oldmanwinters]

‘BLUE BEETLE’ hits digital platforms on September 19.

https://x.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1697623135179170101?s=61&t=XbRKCaz5w7UklaBbOEue_w

Huh that’s very early.

Indeed!

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[CyberCubed]

The sooner these movies come out on digital the better. Usually within a day (or even hours), the HD rips of the movies get brought over to all the illegal streaming websites so we can watch them all for free. I'm glad I no longer have to wait months and months to see a movie that I didn't want to go to theaters for.

[MikeandRaph87]

I am surprised to see Flash is on DVD this week as I saw Auto Benz bought a copy.

I noticed that Mutant Mayhem is available as of today for digital viewing. Does that mean that it didn't make bank? These movies are hitting digital earlier and earlier.

[CyberCubed]

Movies have hit streaming early for a lot of big films. It's just what happens now.

[KROW]

Movies have hit streaming early for a lot of big films. It's just what happens now.

They don't want to romance us anymore. They just dump their load right out the gate for immediate pleasure and suddenly want a relationship with a series of streams.

Anyhow, I probably won't be watching this. I'm a Ted Kord guy and was never into Young Justice.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm surprised this has bombed as badly as it has. Just some mixture of "remnant of a discarded old DCEU" (despite PR insisting it's the "first of the new"), "why are we getting this instead of MoS 2 or Batman 1?" and "Batman's a fascist!" dislike, you think?

[CyberCubed]

It's also because 90% of people have no idea who "Blue Beetle" even is. Sure you could say the same for other big movies, but there's barely any marketing or hype for this than when the Marvel films were first coming.

[Sumac]

I'm surprised this has bombed as badly as it has. Just some mixture of "remnant of a discarded old DCEU" (despite PR insisting it's the "first of the new"), "why are we getting this instead of MoS 2 or Batman 1?" and "Batman's a fascist!" dislike, you think?
Quite sad, since from reviews, while it is standard superhero slop, it is of a decent quality. Unlike Flash or MCU TV series.

[MikeandRaph87]

They don't want to romance us anymore. They just dump their load right out the gate for immediate pleasure and suddenly want a relationship with a series of streams.

Anyhow, I probably won't be watching this. I'm a Ted Kord guy and was never into Young Justice.

Same, Ted Kord or bust.

I thought by dropping so quickly on streaming it was like admission of the failure to profit in theatrical release. If it even had to be made it needed to be a streaming exclusive. I don't know what Zaslav was thinking on this one.

[IMJ]

I'm surprised this has bombed as badly as it has. Just some mixture of "remnant of a discarded old DCEU" (despite PR insisting it's the "first of the new"), "why are we getting this instead of MoS 2 or Batman 1?" and "Batman's a fascist!" dislike, you think?

The woke $#!( hangers-on will blame anything other than their increasingly failing alliance of life-angry-weirdos with agendas.

It will be "superhero fatigue" all the way up until a company pumps out a terrific Iron Man movie, or Superman, or Batman or otherwise top tier character film again. Because the real truth is that since Endgame there have only been a couple truly good superhero flicks.

[Coola Yagami]

The woke $#!( hangers-on will blame anything other than their increasingly failing alliance of life-angry-weirdos with agendas.

It will be "superhero fatigue" all the way up until a company pumps out a terrific Iron Man movie, or Superman, or Batman or otherwise top tier character film again. Because the real truth is that since Endgame there have only been a couple truly good superhero flicks.

Except for No Way Home.... I legit can't think of any. Like I'm serious. None of them. Unless you count the Venom movies, which I still enjoyed, but I know I am of the minority.

[MikeandRaph87]

Except for No Way Home.... I legit can't think of any. Like I'm serious. None of them. Unless you count the Venom movies, which I still enjoyed, but I know I am of the minority.

Same here. Man thing with Venom was it wrapped up too quickly. It needed 20 more minutes than it was.

I don't like Jason Mamoa in his appearance as that is not what Aquaman is supposed to look like, but outside of that I genuinely and surprisingly enjoyed Aquaman and look forward to the sequel.


I would also add Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. I rather enjoyed it.

[Andrew NDB]

Venom 1 is only marginally better than Venom 2, but neither one of them feel like "real" movies, but rather the light sort of action fare you might see in the late 90s. They really needed to go hard-R with these and there was nothing stopping them. I do appreciate that both were devoid of any politics, though. And bottom line, it's really laughable we're about to close out a whole Venom trilogy with a Venom who's never even so much as met Spider-Man. How is this a thing that people are OK with?

Aquaman was fine, not great. Certainly good enough that a sequel could grow things... but man, I really have doubts about Aquaman 2. Chopping the movie down and lessening Mera's part and all of that because of Amber Heard's real life stuff... all the reshoots that were undone, then the re-reshoots that happened after that. I dunno, folks.

GotG3 was pretty solid all around but not earth-shattering.

[IMJ]

"No Way Home" seems to be unanimously solid. I liked it - I bought it.

"Justice League Snyder Cut" was solid. Not many people discuss it though because the Universe is dead. I downloaded it.

I don't know what to say about "The Flash". It wasn't good, but I'm riding high on it if for no other reason than the Keaton screen time to be honest. I saw it in the theater.

GOTG 3 wwwasssss...... formulaic. It was fine. I downloaded it.

I liked the first Aquaman a lot. I downloaded it. Ironically I don't really feel the need to ever watch it again.

So yeah, I suppose "No Way Home" is the only real one and the Snyder Cut could be shoehorned in there as a "good" movie. I didn't see the second Spider-Verse flick - I guess people liked it.

[oldmanwinters]

Saw B.Beetle tonight and thought it was better than Shazam 2 and AntMan 3, as I appreciate it didn’t make its main character into a complete joke.
But… I think it tried a little hard on the sentimentality in the second half, even if the tone isn’t always consistent. Kinda feels like they spliced together various takes of George Lopez that just sounded funny even if they didn’t always flow coherently.

The transformation scenes felt a bit too Venom-like. And somehow the most interesting story in the film is the one we didn’t get… Ted Kord vs. his… aunt… or sister for the soul of his family’s company/legacy.

Maybe its just me, but I felt like there was some subtle pro-Communist messages that got downplayed in post-production too.

[CyberCubed]

The movie is up in HD on the illegal streaming websites so I'm watching it now. Within the first half hour of the movie there's a whole bunch of Mexicans living in U.S. propaganda. It's actually hilarious how blatant it is, the family constantly go on how Mexicans cannot get good jobs, how there's bugs/cameras all around to get them deported, and how they live in a poor community and that the rich/white people are kicking them out.

[IMJ]

The movie is up in HD on the illegal streaming websites so I'm watching it now. Within the first half hour of the movie there's a whole bunch of Mexicans living in U.S. propaganda. It's actually hilarious how blatant it is, the family constantly go on how Mexicans cannot get good jobs, how there's bugs/cameras all around to get them deported, and how they live in a poor community and that the rich/white people are kicking them out.

Mexican Independence Day was this weekend and I was a party last night with my wife's family in Chicago. I was the only white guy there in a room full of Hispanics, most of which I've known for ten years now. Nobody there could answer when I asked them curiously who the Mexicans gained independence from which led to the holiday. Ultimately someone had to google it to tell me. After about 20 seconds of jokes about "Spain", we proceeded to eat really good grilled skirtstake tacos with cactus, truly amazing salsas, and drank a lot of Modello.

Later on I was talking to one of the nephews there who seemed pretty pumped to identify with living in a tough city like Chicago. He thought my house was on a farm or something... because I live in the suburbs now. I told him about a great bar in Portage Park on Irving Park Road that he had never heard of. Portage Park is only several city blocks from the house we were at last night. I wonder if he will check it out?

[Andrew NDB]

The movie is up in HD on the illegal streaming websites so I'm watching it now. Within the first half hour of the movie there's a whole bunch of Mexicans living in U.S. propaganda. It's actually hilarious how blatant it is, the family constantly go on how Mexicans cannot get good jobs, how there's bugs/cameras all around to get them deported, and how they live in a poor community and that the rich/white people are kicking them out.

Jeeze, I didn't realize they would be that overt with that stuff. Now I feel even better about not supporting it in theaters.

[CyberCubed]

There's a line saying, "The hardest thing isn't crossing the border, its living in the U.S. for the next 20 years."

And of course his Mexican father yells, "Batman is a fascist!" and the white woman villain says, "Andale!" to Jaime and his sister when they were working at the beginning of the movie.

Later in the movie Jaime's family is targeted by the villains with all guns pointed at them obviously paralleling real life Mexicans being arrested in their houses.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm curious, in the comics do they make it a point to make Jaime's family into illegal immigrants? Or is that something they're just doing for the movie?

[Cowabung-Gal]

I'm curious, in the comics do they make it a point to make Jaime's family into illegal immigrants? Or is that something they're just doing for the movie?

“No human is illegal, you bigot!” :goof:

And this hilarious quote from Washington Post:

Blue Beetle” touches on immigration status, gentrification fears, micro- and not-so-micro-aggressive racism against Latinos within the American White gaze and features a villain with an origin influenced by some of the United States’ most brutal military interventions in Latin America.

I’m surprised they used the word “Latinos” which isn’t as inclusive as “Latinx”.

[Coola Yagami]

Mexican Independence Day was this weekend and I was a party last night with my wife's family in Chicago. I was the only white guy there in a room full of Hispanics, most of which I've known for ten years now. Nobody there could answer when I asked them curiously who the Mexicans gained independence from which led to the holiday. Ultimately someone had to google it to tell me. After about 20 seconds of jokes about "Spain", we proceeded to eat really good grilled skirtstake tacos with cactus, truly amazing salsas, and drank a lot of Modello.

Later on I was talking to one of the nephews there who seemed pretty pumped to identify with living in a tough city like Chicago. He thought my house was on a farm or something... because I live in the suburbs now. I told him about a great bar in Portage Park on Irving Park Road that he had never heard of. Portage Park is only several city blocks from the house we were at last night. I wonder if he will check it out?

ROFL.... they honestly didn't know it was from Spain?????

Were these like... legit Mexicans that moved were born there and moved to the states, or like... Hispanics that were born and grew up in America all their lives?

[Coola Yagami]

“No human is illegal, you bigot!” :goof:

And this hilarious quote from Washington Post:



I’m surprised they used the word “Latinos” which isn’t as inclusive as “Latinx”.

So stupid, and incredibly insulting to all the LEGAL Hispanics living in the states, like myself.

[Andrew NDB]

So stupid, and incredibly insulting to all the LEGAL Hispanics living in the states, like myself.

And myself. They targeted an audience of leftists who barely turn up for anything and, well, illegal immigrants. That's great.

[CyberCubed]

The grandmother was also a former underground guerilla fighter in a war and shouts lines in spanish all throughout the movie shooting a big gun later on.

[IMJ]

ROFL.... they honestly didn't know it was from Spain?????

Were these like... legit Mexicans that moved were born there and moved to the states, or like... Hispanics that were born and grew up in America all their lives?

Bro these are all transplants who have been here for a very long time, or have been here with varied stories.

Off the top of my head 3 of them are here in varied states of illegality. Honestly, it's been my experience that the people in her family who are here legally tend to be "more readily functional" about anything and the people who aren't tend to be more "imbalanced". There is just so much I could say.

But the people I'm around - it's a legit cultural experience. Many people I have to power through in that combo of English and Spanish, lots of legit names like "Gil" (Hill), "Lucha" (Luz), "Gustavo" and so on, and express food tolerance on with things like cevichi, pesoli amongst other things even at Thanksgiving instead of Turkey :lol:

There are one or two guys I actually enjoy drinking with though, so that's cool. It's always fun to be with a bunch of Mexican guys talking about "drinking" and you literally put them to bed as an Irish guy between the Whiskey I bring and the Mezcal they think they are going to drown you in. :lol::lol:

They do family well though. The biggest parts of my "get together at Holidays" family are mostly gone now, so being adopted into their stuff can be nice.

[Andrew NDB]

Oh, I know a ton of illegal immigrants. A lot of them are close friends, or girlfriends of friends or former landlords/friends. They all know where I stand on illegal immigration. Like, I'm not mad at THEM at all. The system lets them do this, hey, more power to you. If I were in their shoes, I'd come to the US, too. It's not their fault they can just do this willy nilly now, but it doesn't mean it's right.

I can tell you at least here in WA there is a whole network. Basically you make it here, depending on how much you can pay you can get a fake social security card like nothing, at varying degrees of quality. With numbers that end up checking out (are these, like, dead babies who left a SSN? elderly people who have died or are near death? people that are paid to "share" their SSN to workers? I don't know about that part, but it has to be something like this). And they have these law firms that quietly hire illegal immigrants to help others with this. But nobody cares here. About 10 years ago I was working in sales at a hotel and there was a giant purge of like 30 housekeepers and a few front desk who were all illegal. Since then, there's been nothing remotely like that at all. It's all OK now.

[Xav]

Did any of them ever say why they didn't come legally?

[Andrew NDB]

Did any of them ever say why they didn't come legally?

Because it's much easier to just come on over than going through the courts and waiting for years on a list. Plus they all seem to have friends and family already here waiting for them.

[IMJ]

Did any of them ever say why they didn't come legally?

There can be a lot more to that story. Frequently there is "green card confusion". Someone comes here legally but then something expires or there is a job that someone doesn't want to leave, etc......

I'm not defending the status - don't misunderstand. But I am saying that there is a lot of illegal status that doesn't involve crossing borders illegally or surreptitiously.

[Coola Yagami]

Bro these are all transplants who have been here for a very long time, or have been here with varied stories.


But the people I'm around - it's a legit cultural experience. Many people I have to power through in that combo of English and Spanish,

I was just asking cause back when I actually lived in Mexico, I didn't know a single person, regardless of how well-read they were or not that didn't know the Spaniards conquered the area and hence their independence day was celebrating being independent from Spain. I mean, c'mon amigos. We speak English cause the English conquered us, they speak Spanish cause the Spaniards conquered them. lol

And I feel ya on the combo of English and Spanish. I always find it amusing when someone is speaking straight on Spanish, and then randomly throws in an 'um...' in the middle when they stumble somewhere. The 'um...' always gives it away that it's an Americanized Hispanic since there is no 'um' in Spanish. It's been a good while, I forgot what exact word or sound an actual native of Mexico would use when at a temporary loss for words, but I know 'um...' is a strictly English word, term.

It's been over a decade for me, I seem to recall them saying 'este... este...' when they're stumbling for the next word in their sentence, similar like we'd be saying 'um.... um...'.

[Andrew NDB]

Lowest grossing DCEU movie:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/blue-beetle-has-worst-dceu-box-office/

[Sumac]

Guess, there are many racists across the world who hated this movie!!
lol

[IMJ]

No no it was Batman's fascist followers.

[oldmanwinters]

No no it was Batman's fascist followers.

I'm not sure why WB/DC execs keep approving lines of dialogue that undermining their proven workhorse who keeps their entire brand afloat, let alone why they also decide to feature said lines in their promotional materials.

[CyberCubed]

Nobody was asking for a Mexican superhero. Non-comic book fans have no idea what a "Blue Beetle" even is.

[Sumac]

Nobody was asking for a Mexican superhero. Non-comic book fans have no idea what a "Blue Beetle" even is.
Neither most people knew who Guardian of the Galaxy are.
And I don't think BB being Mexican is a problem in itself.

[IMJ]

Nobody was asking for a Mexican superhero. Non-comic book fans have no idea what a "Blue Beetle" even is.

Honestly man, I know you are a master troll, but just to meet your commentary head-on: It has nothing to do with that. This movie probably would have been a smash hit in a different social climate unrelated to woke $#!( .

But it sealed it's fate the 2nd homie in the trailer pulled that line. People just don't care anymore - the first sign of denigrating the country, or some clown's revealing dialog about implied evil and people are out. See, nobody wants fascists - but what the consumer is done with is the modern peasant-thinker using the term as if they have used it correctly.

People are done spending money on other people's bull$@!( belief systems. Because those belief systems are over nonsense - genders and rolley-polley men-women who give emotionless screams in public, or some black kids whose only real problem is their own culture and behavior rather than "racism".

People are slow to change. They spent money on this stuff for a short window hoping it was authentic before seeing it for what it really is - it's nothing more than racism against white males. The end. That's it.

F it. Let it go broke. Don't pay for woke $#!(. I don't want to help people who thought their great fight was against ME when I've never actually wronged anyone. GTFOH.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I'm not sure why WB/DC execs keep approving lines of dialogue that undermining their proven workhorse who keeps their entire brand afloat, let alone why they also decide to feature said lines in their promotional materials.

Because they stoooopid

[Andrew NDB]

Saw it on HBO Max. Yeah, it's a stinker. Xolo himself is fine, but he had no chemistry whatsoever with the Jenny Kord lady and that's pretty important here. None. She's totally flat. The only other good actor aside from Xolo is the sister character. None of the jokes land (and many are just cringe, like everything coming out of George Lopez' mouth and stuff with the grandma) and there's not really a coherent bad guy to root against. The stuff with the family members going on an adventure with Kord tech was embarrassing to watch. You can tell it really wants to be fun but it isn't, ever. The script is like your typical superhero script, as if written by AI. Susan Sarandon is basically playing Hillary Clinton here.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah I felt the same, the family was way too silly/cheesy especially the grandmother going into a dangerous situation like she was laughing about it. The main villain guy was boring as hell as well as the woman villain. A lot of dumb propaganda about Mexicans as well and the usual racism overtones just for the sake of it to make them feel oppressed.

On the plus side Blue Beetles suit and the special effects looked really nice, they really nailed the look of the character.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I mean, I wouldn’t care if they didn’t do a sequel, but perhaps still use the character in some capacity

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder if this is still going to be "the first movie of the new DCU."

[CyberCubed]

The only thing is if you want to see the lead kid Miguel from Cobra Kai in a superhero movie.

[Andrew NDB]

The only thing is if you want to see the lead kid Miguel from Cobra Kai in a superhero movie.

Which is honestly why it's so shocking this was a turd. That kid is SUPER charismatic and was a super awesome find in Cobra Kai season 1. All they had to do was build a good movie around him and they failed.

[XERO]

He was the main reason I watched this. Haha. Dude is going places.

[CyberCubed]

I honestly wonder if any of the Cobra Kai actors will be successful now that the series is over. Obviously some of them are also models like the actress who plays Tory, but for the rest of them? It's not like any of them are really particularly good actors, they're just entertaining to watch as teens in a lighthearted show.

I wouldn't be surprised if most of them just disappear in the next few years.

[Andrew NDB]

The Miguel, Hawk, Robbie, and Tory actors (all 4 of them have been in movies since Cobra Kai began) will probably end up OK. The rest? Naw.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZWVmNDhkMzUtNTRkYi00OWJhLWI0N2EtYWM0OTdhYTBlZm Q2XkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_.jpg

I wonder why Hannah Kepple has been pushed to the sidelines so much? At first I thought maybe she was busy on other projects but if you look at IMDB, not so. She hasn't really done anything except for Cobra Kai. I wonder if the Miguel actor put the kibosh on her? They were dating IRL and broke up early into the show.

[ZariusTwo]

The animated series is hoped to drop by 2026 according to Xolo

https://thedirect.com/article/blue-beetle-xolo-mariduena-dc-2026-return-plans-exclusive

[sdp]

I watched Blue Beetle, in general I'm a big fan of the character, he was my first take on blue beetle though, so not a fan of Ted Kord, I like Dan Garret tho.

The movie started off really well, I enjoyed the crazy hijinks but the whole family sticking around for the rest of the movie meant they really wore out their welcome. I did like th bmvoie towards the end again, the suit is just too cool it's iron man/venom all in one. I think the tone of the movie is where they went of, clearly it needed to be aimed at a much younger audience if they were going to make such a silly concept of the family fighting along.

Weird movie to be the only one to survive the DCEU and be a part of the DCU. This one won't need retcons I guess like TSS

[Andrew NDB]

Even after its failure James Gunn is still talking about Blue Beetle being in the new DCU so I guess that's still happening. It's all pretty harmless, I guess, and it's not like anyone would be interested in doing a Blue Beetle reboot movie anytime in the foreseeable future. We got what we got, "Batman is a fascist!" and all.