Jason Momoa outrages with jokes about his culture

[Andrew NDB]

Yeesh. What's the next thing gonna be?

https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/19-12-2018/once-were-gardeners-lovers-and-poets-not-warriors/

[ProactiveMan]

Do they write an article like that after every All Blacks game?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

My country finally featured in a drome thread, yay :D

I've done the Haka with a group of people, and it really does make you feeling like going into a great battle. After all, intimidating the enemy is its original intention. Its just too bad that even the great haka can't be free of the cowardly liberal's grip.

[Sumac]

Lefties are outraged about the guy "misrepresenting" his own culture...

And liberals are puzzled why a lot of people consider them idiots.

[IndigoErth]

I'm sorry, can someone please quote for me the part that mentions anything about liberals or political leanings? I can't find it.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm sorry, can someone please quote for me the part that mentions anything about liberals or political leanings? I can't find it.

You really think that's a republican?

[IndigoErth]

Is it the article itself you guys have issue with, or just something it covers (please quote)?

Because looking it over the main thing I'm seeing as the center of the piece is just calling 'Aquaman' out on his poor choice of words.

[Candy Kappa]

But indigo, don’t you know that if someone have a critism about the representation of their culture, they are liberal leftist Marxist snowflakes.

Or they didn’t care to read the actual opinion piece and are just circle jerking each other off

[IndigoErth]

Right? And I assume you noticed what I did, and was going to be my next question.

Did any of you guys take even a second to check out the author?

Here, meet the author, Tina Ngata.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/9BdD214S.jpg
https://thespinoff.co.nz/author/tina-ngata/

Tina Ngata (Ngāti Porou) is a mother of two from the East Coast. Her work involves advocacy for environmental, Indigenous and human rights. This includes local, national and international initiatives that highlight the role of settler colonialism in issues such as climate change and waste pollution, and promote Indigenous conservation as best practice for a globally sustainable future

Another bio from elsewhere (https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/02/20/guest-blog-tina-ngata-a-crook-by-any-other-name-celebrating-cook/):

BIO: Tina Ngata (Ngati Porou) works for indigenous university Te Wananga o Aotearoa as a diploma and degree-level educator in indigenous environmental leadership. She lives in Te Tairawhiti and blogs underneath the name “The Non-Plastic Maori” about issues relating to indigenous rights and environmental issues.

This "liberal" as you call her -- and perhaps she is, at least in U.S. terms, so? -- is herself one of them and I am pretty certain that Tina Ngata (Ngati Porou) has every right to say what she wants in regard to HER culture, just as much as Mr. Momoa does as an actor born in Hawaii.


Maybe next time there is an urge to start a "bitch about liberals" thread, maybe look a bit further into your intended source first.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'm sorry, can someone please quote for me the part that mentions anything about liberals or political leanings? I can't find it.

Not hard at all to tell from the overall tone of the article, but if you want specific quotes, there are many other pieces she has written, such as:

"Ahhh Councils… they really know how to put the “settler” in settler colonialism. Maybe it’s the dominance of older white farmers. Maybe it’s the tantalising opportunity to directly manipulate land and resources within a region. Maybe it’s the finger sandwiches and savouries. Whatever the cause – Councils around the country can’t seem to help but fall prey to their own settler colonial mentalities, downplaying the issues that disadvantage Māori, like Institutional racism, Treaty responsibilities, and fair representation, to focus on “more pressing matters”.

Source: https://thenonplasticmaori.wordpress.com

In a country where Maori are provided with numerous benefits over other races due to being indigineous, this woman has the audacity to claim that that Maori suffer institutional racism, blaming the very same councils who have worked to keep the running country in order and accusing them of having "colonial mentalities".

To her, it does not matter that many Maori simply make poor choices, going into drugs and alcoholism (while simultaneously not accepting all the help around them), they must be represented more regardless! Her ideals are clearly reflected when a person makes a joke and the way that she responds to it.

[Sumac]

Who else would be outraged by something completely innocuous, but our brave social study warriors?

[IMJ]

The "people of twitter" are also outraged that a white model was put into a Black Panther t-shirt.

So, I guess the way this works is that the people who are outraged at this "racism" don't actually subscribe to equality, or even enjoyment of content across race, but instead subscribe to "black things for black people" and "white things for white people".

It's all lies. A world of lies.

The problem is that when you link to this moronic content to support your claim, you are actually supporting the moronic content with clicks. World of lies, man.

[The Deadman]

The people of Twitter also said that this dance was ripping off Wakanda. Yes, people were actually saying that a real tribal dance was ripping off the fake culture of a movie.

[Prowler]

The people of Twitter also said that this dance was ripping off Wakanda. Yes, people were actually saying that a real tribal dance was ripping off the fake culture of a movie.
...social networks were a mistake, it seems.

Sadly, nowadays more and more people believe in memes and no longer read books or legitimate sources, so repeating a lie dozens of times through memes or rants will make it a fact in the minds of many people.

[Candy Kappa]

The people of Twitter also said that this dance was ripping off Wakanda. Yes, people were actually saying that a real tribal dance was ripping off the fake culture of a movie.

That is hilarious :lol:

[IMJ]

Maybe next time there is an urge to start a "bitch about liberals" thread, maybe look a bit further into your intended source first.

This post proves nothing other than Andrew's (and others) "assumption" is true that this was a liberal author burning more people at the stake.

And I have seen a pattern of abrasiveness in your posting whereby you form words with the self-perception that you are some enlightened thinker, but in fact much of what you say seems to come from poor information processing.

For example:
-posters here cite the Momoa article as more liberal nonsense.
-you reply, challenged by the [correct] assumption that this is a liberal author
-you provide information that demonstrates that this is indeed a liberal author (validating everyone's "assumption" and invalidating your own) but then still say "Maybe next time there is an urge to start a "bitch about liberals" thread, maybe look a bit further into your intended source first."

This is exactly the completely nonsense manner by which liberals process information. But as I've seen it here, even though 2+2 equals something other than 4 in your head - your real problem is that you'll still defend your math and refuse to actually modify your "feels" with truth. You should try using information to form thoughts about patterns instead of twisting information to fit the patterns you want. That's called confirmation bias. As I've seen it, the only thing you are good at is continuing to word banter and use verbal judo at all costs. And I'm not saying that you are good at arguing. I am saying that you are good at running your internet mouth, or posting "eye roll" emoticons, in defense of your poorly processed information.

[IndigoErth]

Well that was certainly some gymnastics to try to complicate it for the sake of argument. And all for what, to defend a thread that solely exists for a need to bemoan the opinions of one woman who none here will ever meet?

And no, you don't have to believe that I'm "good at arguing" because I don't tend to offer much to judge that on anyhow, because in most cases the people who really do run their mouths aren't worth the time and effort to get into it with.



Confirmation bias (https://www.britannica.com/science/confirmation-bias), the tendency to process information by looking for, or interpreting, information that is consistent with one’s existing beliefs.
Such as when right wingers read that woman's article.

[Hamato Yoshi]

Actual candy names in Sweden 50s/60s : the n-word , Uncle Tom , Zulu , Kongo ("Kongo" doesnt sound that racist to me , if it was called say "Egypt" then there wouldnt be a problem)

In Finland they had a licorice called "Negro kiss"

We still had Black Boy spices around 10 yrs ago in Norway , still have Hindu spices

https://www.matoppskrift.no/ingrediens/black-boy-spaghetti-krydder

https://www.lunsj.no/3961-provence-krydder-hindu.html

[Leo656]

https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED165/5501c623f0185.jpeg

[Candy Kappa]

We still had Black Boy spices around 10 yrs ago in Norway , still have Hindu spices

https://www.matoppskrift.no/ingrediens/black-boy-spaghetti-krydder

https://www.lunsj.no/3961-provence-krydder-hindu.html

We also had a major brand of caramel food coloring named Negro, accompanied with a racist caricature logo. It just shows how ingrained a lot of racist sh*t is in everyday life that most people (primarily white people) are oblivious to it.

Sweden also have Kina (China), a chocolate covered corn puff candy that also had a racist caricature as a logo. I don't think Norway imports it as much anymore cause I haven't seen it in years, instead we have a different brand version, less racist baggage but not as good tasting :lol:

[Voltron]

Again, who the hell cares? This is a waste of god damned space.

[Candy Kappa]

Andrew cares, a lot apparently...

[Andrew NDB]

Andrew cares, a lot apparently...

I don't care at all. But it seems a decent conversational thing.

[Sumac]

Hindu spices
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but what is wrong with Hindu spices?
Is Hindu is offensive word or something?

[The Deadman]

Again, who the hell cares? This is a waste of god damned space.

It was important enough for social media to assume "white people" were ripping off fiction.

[Sumac]

It was important enough for social media to assume "white people" were ripping off fiction.
Social media were a mistake. :P

[Hamato Yoshi]

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but what is wrong with Hindu spices?
Is Hindu is offensive word or something?

I could imagine it being racist in the US , in general we have become way more pc.......can you imagine characters like Dr Bombay (or even worse) Nazi Per (yeah.....a friendly nazi , heh) today.......I think not :lol: :P

Casino Royale the book , lets just say the chapter "N-word heaven" was re-titled in the US........)

[Voltron]

It was important enough for social media to assume "white people" were ripping off fiction.

Again, who there matters?

[The Deadman]

Again, who there matters?

Determining whether or not a group of people on Twitter matter to the rest of us is irrelevant. We live in an age where you can get in trouble for something you said in 2007 if enough people care to talk about it

[Andrew NDB]

Determining whether or not a group of people on Twitter matter to the rest of us is irrelevant. We live in an age where you can get in trouble for something you said in 2007 if enough people care to talk about it

That's only ever going to change when people make a stand and stop apologizing for that stuff, giving it all undeserved credence.