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Prowler
12-24-2018, 08:27 AM
In the early days of the internet and up until the 2k3 series came out, there were a bunch of TMNT fanmade websites dedicated to the FW series. Since many people on these forums are from that time and some of you probably made or knew who made some of those websites, let's talk about those days shall we?

From the top of my head, there was TMNT Dissected, which analysed FW characters' from a psychological POV. Here it is: http://web.archive.org/web/20090830214845/http://geocities.com/tmntdissected/characters.htm

Does anyone else remember this website? I mentioned it the other day, but couldn't remember its name until Dejablue told me the name of it and sent me a link. Holy ****, I read this website when I was like 12 years old :lol:

Then there's others. A major one was Ninja Turtles Network. I remember it having f FW episode screencaps with its animation errors. Hint. There were TONS of those. :lol:

I'm sure there's more, but I either don't remember them or never saw them.

dragonside
12-24-2018, 10:17 AM
i just read some of these and wow.... i am very surprised by some of the analysis.

It's a super interesting interpretation and I guess now an artifact of that time period.

oldmanwinters
12-24-2018, 11:25 AM
I thought TMNT Dissected was hilarious, and assumed it was just having some fun over-analyzing a kid's show.

CyberCubed
12-24-2018, 04:08 PM
:lol:

Then there's others. A major one was Ninja Turtles Network. I remember it having f FW episode screencaps with its animation errors. Hint. There were TONS of those. :lol:

Ninja Turtles Network was run by Vegita-san. Yes, the same Vegita-san on these forums. Really makes you think.

Hard to believe I used to visit his site regularly back in the day, especially when he put eps of the original cartoon up to download in the late 90's and early 2000's, which were special back then because this was before the DVDs came out and when the show wasn't able to be watched anywhere unless you had old VHS tapes.

The-Shredder
12-24-2018, 05:05 PM
I used to visit this directory (https://web.archive.org/web/20050825234018/http://directory.google.com:80/Top/Arts/Animation/Cartoons/Titles/T/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles/) of some of the most popular TMNT fan sites in the early 2000s and man are these sites primitive compared to today. Even back then it was difficult to navigate them. Most of them are dedicated to fan-fiction, but in an era before YouTube, they were great for seeing what other incarnations of TMNT were like. Mikey's TMNT (www.mikeystmnt.com) used to be my go-to blog for TMNT news right after ninjaturtles.com. There was also tOkKa's (http://www.terrible2z.com) site and he is still active on social media. Cherubae's Ninja Turtle Dimension (https://web.archive.org/web/20041210090025/http://www.fogu.com:80/nttnm/) had some neat screenshots and bios of the Next Mutation. Ninja Turtles Network (http://www.ninjaturtlesnetwork.com:80/TV/Cartoon.htm) was pretty cool for having Real Media videos of Turtle Tips, the anime, and the Next Mutation, as well as some of the promos for the 4Kids series premiere.

There were also some Spanish and Russian fansites that I liked because they would have long clips from the movies. :D I also used to visit an Angelfire site that had screenshots of most of the 4Kids episodes soon after they aired, but I forgot its name. A lot of the links and pictures from these sites are missing, but if you look hard enough you might find some pretty rare stuff.

Prowler
12-25-2018, 04:47 AM
Ninja Turtles Network was run by Vegita-san. Yes, the same Vegita-san on these forums. Really makes you think.

Hard to believe I used to visit his site regularly back in the day, especially when he put eps of the original cartoon up to download in the late 90's and early 2000's, which were special back then because this was before the DVDs came out and when the show wasn't able to be watched anywhere unless you had old VHS tapes.

HOLY SH*T, REALLY?!:o

CyberCubed
12-25-2018, 01:08 PM
Yes, hard to believe it's the same guy. He was only in his 20's back then I believe.

Coola Yagami
12-25-2018, 08:09 PM
I remember that site. That was a fun stroll down memory lane. Thanks.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-02-2019, 07:18 AM
I hope the homepage format will return one day, of course, in an improved way.

So much great job was done behind these.

Andrew NDB
01-02-2019, 09:51 AM
Mine's still up. The message board is non-functional, of course.

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/tmnt/

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-02-2019, 10:06 AM
Mine's still up. The message board is non-functional, of course.

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/tmnt/

I know you didn't write them all alone, but will there be a continuation of Transcension, Deliverance and Ascension? (with the turtles of the IDW comics, Nickelodeon series, Platinum Dunes films and Rise of the TMNT. Dreamwave is also missing, even if it lasted only a few issues). :)

Andrew NDB
01-02-2019, 10:12 AM
I know you didn't write them all alone, but will there be a continuation of Transcension, Deliverance and Ascension? (with the turtles of the IDW comics, Nickelodeon series, Platinum Dunes films and Rise of the TMNT. Dreamwave is also missing, even if it lasted only a few issues). :)

"Odyssey" is largely a adaptation of those combined, if told somewhat differently. "Ascension" was going to be finished and Jephael was going to help but yeah.

Largely "Ascension" was going to deal with a "good" Shogun doing the opposite of what he did in "Transcension," with Peter and Kevin serving as basically the main characters throughout (which "Odyssey" got a small dash of).

cammy85
01-02-2019, 10:42 AM
I remember one that had a continuation fanfic series that was really well done; and even rewrote the stories until he got it right. It unfortunately stopped on a cliffhanger where it looked like Shredder and Krang WOULD be defeated for good. It brought Dregg and Mung back for a bit and even they had their closure, unfortunate as it was. It sucks we never got to see how it ended.

Edit: I remember they did have a final story, cleverly titled "Vernon Saves The Day", but it was only partway done.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-02-2019, 12:18 PM
I redisocvered TMNT some weeks before Christmas 2003, and would read these fansites throughout 2004.

Andrew NDB
01-02-2019, 12:25 PM
It used to be a lot of fun to bounce around the Ring of Green and see all the sites.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-02-2019, 12:37 PM
It used to be a lot of fun to bounce around the Ring of Green and see all the sites.

If I click on a link on the Ring of Green-Ninja Turtles Empire, some music begins to download in my computer, and I have to remove it. So I prefer the stories over Fanfiction Net.

pferreira
01-25-2019, 03:34 PM
I miss TMNT Dissected. I wish it was completed. :(

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-27-2019, 03:23 AM
It feels like travelling back in time, to pre-boradband days when a lot of things (including the TMNT franchise) were surrounded by some kind of "mysticism".

pferreira
02-01-2019, 12:54 PM
It feels like travelling back in time, to pre-boradband days when a lot of things (including the TMNT franchise) were surrounded by some kind of "mysticism".More like the sites had less resources behind them so the creators had to work twice as hard to put the websites together so obviously in retrospect there's very much a scrapbook feel to the websites but still fun to revisit. You can really see the effort put into some of these sites.

Prowler
02-01-2019, 01:13 PM
More like the sites had less resources behind them so the creators had to work twice as hard to put the websites together so obviously in retrospect there's very much a scrapbook feel to the websites but still fun to revisit. You can really see the effort put into some of these sites.

That's one of the things I miss from the older internet days. Back then A LOT of people had their own websites or made several webpages on websites like geocities, angelfire, tripod, etc. Most of the times the websites were either amateurish or not exactly made with a lot of resources, but you could feel the passion just from looking at them. All the pages I made on geocities when I was a kid/teenager were terrible, but I had A LOT of fun making them.

Nowadays the internet is too centralised. Everyone goes on the same core websites. And most people no longer make their own websites. I don't think places where you can create your own webpages for free such as geocities, tripod, angelfire, etc. are a thing any longer. Nowadays people would rather just make a Facebook or Instagram profile or something like that.

The internet has improved tenfold in terms of speed and accessibility since the early 2000s, but a lot of cool stuff was lost in the way as well. Fansites were always cool to check. Nowadays everything just feels too corporate. Back then it truly seemed like the internet was an ocean and that you were actually surfing on it.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-02-2019, 03:07 PM
Facebook or Instagram profile

Social media only moves focus from the website's topic (in thse cases the fandom) to the person behind.

pferreira
02-08-2019, 02:32 PM
That's one of the things I miss from the older internet days. Back then A LOT of people had their own websites or made several webpages on websites like geocities, angelfire, tripod, etc. Most of the times the websites were either amateurish or not exactly made with a lot of resources, but you could feel the passion just from looking at them. All the pages I made on geocities when I was a kid/teenager were terrible, but I had A LOT of fun making them.

Nowadays the internet is too centralised. Everyone goes on the same core websites. And most people no longer make their own websites. I don't think places where you can create your own webpages for free such as geocities, tripod, angelfire, etc. are a thing any longer. Nowadays people would rather just make a Facebook or Instagram profile or something like that.

The internet has improved tenfold in terms of speed and accessibility since the early 2000s, but a lot of cool stuff was lost in the way as well. Fansites were always cool to check. Nowadays everything just feels too corporate. Back then it truly seemed like the internet was an ocean and that you were actually surfing on it.Great post! Sums it up nicely. Although I don't miss the ugly web servers like Geocities, Angel Fire, etc I do miss the personality that shone through.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-09-2019, 03:55 PM
Even this Technodrome website used to be a fansite once. Now it's mostly a community.

pferreira
02-09-2019, 05:55 PM
Even this Technodrome website used to be a fansite once. Now it's mostly a community.Yes it did, that was my first port of call here. I mean has the front page ever been updated?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-10-2019, 02:45 AM
I mean has the front page ever been updated?

Except for the Halloween anniversaries, not since July 2013.

pferreira
02-15-2019, 04:13 PM
Except for the Halloween anniversaries, not since July 2013.I get that impression but I am glad this forum is still so active. :)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-17-2019, 03:07 AM
I get that impression but I am glad this forum is still so active. :)

Yes, we had the most number of users online at the same time as late as 30 November 2015. That's many years after the deaths of many other communities.

Vegita-San
02-17-2019, 06:07 AM
HOLY SH*T, REALLY?!:o

yep. I had one of the first ninja turtle fan sites up, IIRC. Even before here and the official site.

At the time, I only remember one other. it wasn't ninjaturtles.com or the licensee site...but another fan site that as I recall had some rather interesting series info. but I'll be damned if I can remember the name of it. it didn't last more than a few years.

as for my site....I had accomplished all I wanted to accomplish. I had talked to most of the cast members, done interviews with others. tried to find all the turtle related items I could. and by the time 4kids emerged, there where other, better websites out there with more resources to design them than I ever had.. so it was time to close up shop.

I thought about re opening it as a .org a few years ago, but I just don't have the passion I did. Even as a blog, I wouldn't update it as much as I used to.

But, it's nice to know people still remember it.

oldmanwinters
02-17-2019, 03:08 PM
yep. I had one of the first ninja turtle fan sites up, IIRC. Even before here and the official site.

At the time, I only remember one other. it wasn't ninjaturtles.com or the licensee site...but another fan site that as I recall had some rather interesting series info. but I'll be damned if I can remember the name of it. it didn't last more than a few years.

as for my site....I had accomplished all I wanted to accomplish. I had talked to most of the cast members, done interviews with others. tried to find all the turtle related items I could. and by the time 4kids emerged, there where other, better websites out there with more resources to design them than I ever had.. so it was time to close up shop.

I thought about re opening it as a .org a few years ago, but I just don't have the passion I did. Even as a blog, I wouldn't update it as much as I used to.

But, it's nice to know people still remember it.

I loved your old site! You thinking of Mikey's Tmnt site?

Vegita-San
02-18-2019, 08:04 AM
I loved your old site! You thinking of Mikey's Tmnt site?

I don't think so. this site might have gone back to even as far as 1992. and it was just all text info as I recall.

Andrew NDB
02-18-2019, 09:49 AM
Yes, we had the most number of users online at the same time as late as 30 November 2015.

I wonder who most of those people were, and what was coming out around that time...

I don't think so. this site might have gone back to even as far as 1992. and it was just all text info as I recall.

There were no websites in 1992, unless you're talking about BBSes. Maybe 1996 and up.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-18-2019, 10:21 AM
I wonder who most of those people were, and what was coming out around that time...

Out of the Shadows had some news reveal in early December 2015, but I don't think they were out already in late November that year.

Andrew NDB
02-18-2019, 10:34 AM
Out of the Shadows had some news reveal in early December 2015, but I don't think they were out already in late November that year.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/78173248/ed-is-unofficially-laying-the-groundwork.jpg

Vegita-San
02-18-2019, 12:09 PM
I wonder who most of those people were, and what was coming out around that time...



There were no websites in 1992, unless you're talking about BBSes. Maybe 1996 and up.

it's such an old site, it's possible. but I think this one was literally one of the first sites ever with info.

Prowler
02-18-2019, 02:11 PM
Great post! Sums it up nicely. Although I don't miss the ugly web servers like Geocities, Angel Fire, etc I do miss the personality that shone through.

Most of those websites were kinda lousy or basic in design, since they were often made by kids/teenagers such as myself at the time. But it was thanks to one of those crappy Geocities webpages that I discovered the MissingNo glitch/cheat in Pokémon Red or how to unlock Mewtwo in Super Smash Bros. Melee :lol:. Nowadays you can just easily go on youtube and discover such things, but you most likely have to put up with some annoying youtuber talking for 5-10 minutes straight before getting to the point. Plus, it's also too easy. Back then you accidentally found cheats and secrets through fanmade websites or through video game magazines. It was a lot more exciting.

pferreira
02-22-2019, 02:13 PM
Nowadays you can just easily go on youtube and discover such things, but you most likely have to put up with some annoying youtuber talking for 5-10 minutes straight before getting to the point. No no. Nowadays you just easily go on youtube and discover such things, put up with a an unskippable commercial for 30 seconds and then put up with some annoying youtuber talking for 5-10 minutes straight before getting to the point. :lol:

jazzmatazz
02-22-2019, 10:01 PM
I got into collecting around the time Playmates had a figure archive.... it was neat to see them care enough to do that for the fans.




Nowadays the internet is too centralised. Everyone goes on the same core websites. And most people no longer make their own websites. I don't think places where you can create your own webpages for free such as geocities, tripod, angelfire, etc. are a thing any longer. Nowadays people would rather just make a Facebook or Instagram profile or something like that.


Weebly is still free! I run an Oliver & company merch guide. Mostly ebay photo sourced since I don't collect like I used to.


No no. Nowadays you just easily go on youtube and discover such things, put up with a an unskippable commercial for 30 seconds and then put up with some annoying youtuber talking for 5-10 minutes straight before getting to the point. :lol:

I'm not sure how long youtube is going to last with any quality content with the new policy updates this week. Kind of a dumpster fire right now on the youtube reddit.

snake
02-22-2019, 10:46 PM
As charming as they were, I am personally extremely thankful I can view a wikipedia article listing every OT episode and not have to worry if the information is accurate or not. Old fansites like these are how misinformation spread in fandoms. Thank God for canon-nerds and their wikis.

Xav
02-23-2019, 02:25 AM
You actually think wikipedia is accurate? I have found much more misinformation on wikis than I ever did on any fansites.

Andrew NDB
02-23-2019, 03:00 AM
To Snake's cred, the actual wikis of hardcore fanbases are pretty well guarded.

With some exceptions. Some asshole keeps deleting my stuff on the Highlander wikis about when Connor died.

Xav
02-23-2019, 04:16 AM
Fan wikis are the worst. They are often run by people who will revert every edit they see even if it's correcting info and ban people for little to no reason. At least the old fansites didn't try to pass themselves off as sites "anyone" can edit.

pferreira
02-23-2019, 07:31 AM
To Snake's cred, the actual wikis of hardcore fanbases are pretty well guarded.

With some exceptions. Some asshole keeps deleting my stuff on the Highlander wikis about when Connor died.I think I'm still waiting for TV.com to validate my trivia I've made months ago. It's still in 'pending'. :o

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-23-2019, 10:41 AM
Fan wikis are the worst. They are often run by people who will revert every edit they see even if it's correcting info and ban people for little to no reason. At least the old fansites didn't try to pass themselves off as sites "anyone" can edit.

The Turtlepedia is OK.

Prowler
02-23-2019, 10:47 AM
I think I'm still waiting for TV.com to validate my trivia I've made months ago. It's still in 'pending'. :o

TV.com?! That's a place I hadn't thought or head about in years. Is it still even relevant?

Xav
02-23-2019, 11:02 AM
The Turtlepedia is OK.Turtlepedia has only been OK for like a year. Before that they had a mod who would just mindless revert everything and gave people lifetime bans for doing next to nothing. There are also pages on that site that I know contain false information but are impossible to remove as some vandal will just put them back. The fact that some false information has appeared on official TMNT products because people have used that site as a reference makes it even more worst.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-23-2019, 11:32 AM
Turtlepedia has only been OK for like a year. Before that they had a mod who would just mindless revert everything and gave people lifetime bans for doing next to nothing. There are also pages on that site that I know contain false information but are impossible to remove as some vandal will just put them back. The fact that some false information has appeared on official TMNT products because people have used that site as a reference makes it even more worst.

I recall lot of fanworks being removed last year, and moved to a wiki for TMNT fanworks.

pferreira
02-23-2019, 05:55 PM
TV.com?! That's a place I hadn't thought or head about in years. Is it still even relevant?It's been owned for a number of years by CBS but they've done heck all with the site except closed all the forums. One person there tells me he thinks the place will close down. The site has numerous glitches. No any other TV site where you can rate and review individual episodes of TV shows? I tried Rotten Tomatoes but you can only do it by season.

snake
02-23-2019, 06:38 PM
Fan wikis are the worst. They are often run by people who will revert every edit they see even if it's correcting info and ban people for little to no reason. At least the old fansites didn't try to pass themselves off as sites "anyone" can edit.

Wookieepedia is still the best Star Wars resource available. Marvel's wiki is extremely well-run as well.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-24-2019, 07:31 AM
TV.com?! That's a place I hadn't thought or head about in years. Is it still even relevant?

I recall when it was called TV Tome.

pferreira
02-24-2019, 05:42 PM
I recall when it was called TV Tome.Ooooo that was quite a while back. :lol:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-25-2019, 10:56 AM
Ooooo that was quite a while back. :lol:

It changed name in June 2005 to be more exact

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV.com

pferreira
03-01-2019, 01:01 PM
It changed name in June 2005 to be more exact

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV.comYeah that sounds right. I think it must of shortly been after that that CBS bought them. Haven't checked the Wiki link you included.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-01-2019, 01:12 PM
Yeah that sounds right. I think it must of shortly been after that that CBS bought them. Haven't checked the Wiki link you included.

CNET Networks bought TV Tome in April 2005. CBS announced its purchase of CNET Networks in May 2008.

pferreira
03-01-2019, 01:22 PM
CNET Networks bought TV Tome in April 2005. CBS announced its purchase of CNET Networks in May 2008.Read that after I posted, thanks. :)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-01-2019, 01:28 PM
I recall liking TV Tome better, but it's many years ago and back then I was happy to find such websites at all.

pferreira
03-02-2019, 07:42 AM
I recall liking TV Tome better, but it's many years ago and back then I was happy to find such websites at all.Back then each TV show had a forum! :lol:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-02-2019, 10:02 AM
Back then each TV show had a forum! :lol:

It was awsome. Imagine yourself being 20 years old during the early- or mid-2000's (pre-May 2005, when Youtube kicked off). You have left secondary school or high school, and study in a university or work. You have started developing a nostalgia for your childhood and its cartoons, comics and toys.

Suddenly, you discover it! An Internet community dedicated to one of your favourite series.

The-Shredder
03-03-2019, 10:00 AM
The thing I remember the most about TV Tome were the shoot the target and win a prize Adobe Flash ads. I think one of them was Batman. :D

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-03-2019, 10:40 AM
Back then each TV show had a forum! :lol:

And many fansites (not only TMNT).

pferreira
03-03-2019, 04:19 PM
Suddenly, you discover it! An Internet community dedicated to one of your favourite series.It was very narrow minded of TV.com to remove those memories.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-03-2019, 05:12 PM
At least we have the Wayback Machine now.

pferreira
03-03-2019, 05:24 PM
At least we have the Wayback Machine now.Alas it's not the same is it? I wish TV.com continued as a fan site with the forums back. But i guess it would cost huge amounts of money to continue doing. Probably the reason CBS gave up.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-04-2019, 11:34 AM
Alas it's not the same is it? I wish TV.com continued as a fan site with the forums back. But i guess it would cost huge amounts of money to continue doing. Probably the reason CBS gave up.

Here are the archives, beginning in July 2000.

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://tvtome.com/

ZariusTwo
03-07-2019, 10:08 AM
I recall liking TV Tome better, but it's many years ago and back then I was happy to find such websites at all.

I ran my TVome guides like a dictator, TMNT was among them. I hope I wasn't too harsh when you visited, as I can't honestly recall how brutal I was. I once locked down the Power Rangers forum for a week because a fan asked a random question I didn't like.

After I got banned from TV TOME, I ran the guides over at the less popular knock off TVRage. I was recently able to archive all of my TMNT episode guides from around that time (wasn't so lucky with other guides I ran there except for TMNT and Power Rangers)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-07-2019, 11:30 AM
I hope I wasn't too harsh when you visited

I only read, never used any website. At the time, I didn't even have broadband (got it in March 2005).

pferreira
03-09-2019, 05:21 PM
Here are the archives, beginning in July 2000.

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://tvtome.com/Am I using it wrong. I click on a date and it goes to a dead page?

I ran my TVome guides like a dictator, TMNT was among them. I hope I wasn't too harsh when you visited, as I can't honestly recall how brutal I was. I once locked down the Power Rangers forum for a week because a fan asked a random question I didn't like.

After I got banned from TV TOME, I ran the guides over at the less popular knock off TVRage. I was recently able to archive all of my TMNT episode guides from around that time (wasn't so lucky with other guides I ran there except for TMNT and Power Rangers)So can I ask why did you get banned? Was it because you were harsh as an editor? So glad I got Young Indy, dead quite there. :lol:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-10-2019, 11:02 AM
Am I using it wrong. I click on a date and it goes to a dead page?

Which date did you chose?

pferreira
03-18-2019, 11:23 AM
Which date did you chose?I'm probably not using this right. First time I've used it from the home page. I click 2012 for instance but when I click on any date I just get a text response.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-18-2019, 11:43 AM
I'm probably not using this right. First time I've used it from the home page. I click 2012 for instance but when I click on any date I just get a text response.

I used TV Tome in late 2003, throughout 2004 and early 2005.

pferreira
03-18-2019, 12:40 PM
I used TV Tome in late 2003, throughout 2004 and early 2005.Okay that works. I'm guessing it hasn't archived every year past the TV Tome name.