[Question] Mods insulting members? [Archive]

Voltron

01-10-2019, 08:15 AM

To the richest government in the world for the past 100 years? No, not really.

Because politicians stick to all of their promises?

"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor."
"No new taxes"
"Kuwaiti incubator babies"
"There are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq"

Trump is not unique in his nonsense promises. Yes, he is far more brash and idiotic in his presentation, but he is no way worse than anyone who preceded him. Everything Trump gets blamed for his predecessor did. Where was the condemnation then? Oh, I know, you liked Obummer, so it wasn't bad when he was doing just about everything Trump is doing now.

I'd give it to you that Trump was this uniquely bad presence if Obama didn't tear gas illegals at the border. If Obama didn't want the border wall when he was a senator. If Obama said that the AHCA was going to lower medical costs. If Obama didn't illegally start an armed conflict in Syria. I don't have the 'liberal smarts' to view him as this great beacon of "Hope" and "Change". He was horrible. He just dressed it up in pretty words and phrases.

I could even talk about the fact that Obama tried to have reporters arrested. I won't, though, as we need to focus on the fact that.. Orange man bad.

So be it. Let's begin.

First, this is not a PM, which you had said you'd be willing to take this to.

Second, you're tone here was just as sarcastic and caustic sounding as anything I've said. Assuming my political affiliation and then adding the "Obummer" part wasn't exactly called for. Not that egregious.

The thing that really got me though was this:

Orange man bad

In a response to me, you utilized a speech pattern indicative of stupidity. Since you dropped the gauntlet, I was under the impression you were thick skinned enough to take it.

Obviously, I was wrong.

From this point on, I will handle all of these things with kids gloves.

Next time, I'd ask you for the same consideration you demand for yourself.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 08:23 AM

My using 'orange man bad' was not aimed at you. That is a HUGE reach. LMAO. That's the insult used when people are talking about Donald Trump. They call him Orange man. No insults were aimed at you. Oh, and where did I make any implication about your political affiliation. I didn't I have no way of knowing which way you vote.

Again. nowhere did I insult you or make any type of implication towards you (something you're still doing to me, btw). How about this, let's have an Admin or another mod look at this situation.

Also, how can you make any inference about my tone through text? I am legitimately interested in your answer. I don't see how anything I wrote could in anyway be taken as sarcastic and mean spirited. I wasn't being sarcastic with my post. I was simply stating the truth of the situation.

It is odd, though, that you are a member of a group on this board that uses a racial slur that is aimed at caucasian people.

Honky killer? Wow.

As a POC myself, I find that prejudice to be extremely divisive. How does that type of nonsense have a place on this board? Seriously?

And, frankly, you have struck a nerve with me. How do you think it's at all appropriate to make a remark implying someone is intellectually disabled? Do you not understand the weight that remark has? How do you think that makes actual people with disabilities feel?

Personally, I'm not bothered by the horrible remarks you've made. I just feel bad that a person with an intellectual/physical disability might have had to see that.

Anyway, I hope the admins take a long hard look at this situation. See the way that thread was going before I even responded to it. Look at the antagonizing and horrible implications made at members that were voicing a dissenting opinion and take appropriate action.

Oh, I have also grabbed all of my posts. In case any suddenly disappear.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 09:01 AM

I just want to show that the mod in question was editing and harassing other members in the thread long before I showed up. He was insulting anyone who doesn't hold his opinion.

There is an obvious bias at play here. I'm not bothered by it (not surprise). I'm just pointing it out.

Frankly, I don't expect any change or anything. I just wanted to point out the silliness of the situation.

Candy Kappa

01-10-2019, 09:15 AM

Damn Bart, I didn’t think you’d be such a thin-skinned drama queen.

After being called out by your caustic tone you just find something else to blow out of Proportions.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 09:18 AM

Damn Bart, I didn’t think you’d be such a thin-skinned drama queen.

After being called out by your caustic tone you just find something else to blow out of Proportions.

:roll:
You got me. lmao. .

Andrew NDB

01-10-2019, 09:30 AM

And what's with changing my thread title because of your own political leanings?

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 09:45 AM

And what's with changing my thread title because of your own political leanings?

Don't even question it, Andrew. He's already told me he plans to delete everything. I guess I'll just upload his tirades to this thread. It's a shame he can abuse his 'power' the way he has.

The guy has accused an ethnic/racial minority of racism. I'm always up for spirited debate, but making horrible/borderline prejudice claims against people is not the way a mod should act.

Soo... I'm going to laugh when I get banned for not agreeing with a prejudice, ableist, racist that can't deal with an opinion that doesn't align with his own so he claims he's been 'anatagonized'. What a travesty of a human being.

The way he deleted parts of his messages to me in our other... Is that the pm system? Is downright staggering. He'd make a horrible implication about me then quickly delete it.

And who in their right mind would think that me saying 'orange man bad' is an insult aimed at them? I mean come on. The way this guy builds narratives you'd think he writes for a TV show. lmao.

sdp

01-10-2019, 09:55 AM

BartAllen is a joke.

And what's with changing my thread title because of your own political leanings?

Maybe stop posting and making political threads which you've been told not to and this won't be an issue?

Andrew NDB

01-10-2019, 09:59 AM

Maybe stop posting and making political threads which you've been told not to and this won't be an issue?

You mean like the ones Voltron (you know, the moderator) made? Like these?

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=60848

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=60851

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=60818

Voltron

01-10-2019, 10:05 AM

Fair enough. No more political posts in the GD then.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 10:06 AM

You mean like the ones Voltron (you know, the moderator) made? Like these?

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=60848

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=60851

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=60818

Don't you understand, Andrew. It's not political when they do it. It's not racist *shudders* when they do it. They can say horribly racist things because they're 'on the right side of history'. The way Voltron was deleting posts after making HORRIBLE comments just go to show that he's not doing any of this in good faith. He's editing things to make himself look better.

sdp

01-10-2019, 10:07 AM

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 10:11 AM

I don't care who makes them, they're crap, it's a TMNT board. Sometimes politics and social issues can spill into other topics as we've seen in recent years and it's hard to avoid but at the end of the day political discussions are banned and need to be enforced more since they always turn to crap and rot other discussions elsewhere on the board.

Should mods be allowed to insult members they disagree with? Serious question.

The worst part is the way the posts have been selectively edited to take out the incriminating evidence. It's almost like said mod knows what he is doing is wrong.

Both Andrew and myself have seen the edits.

Allegedly I'm having a tantrum because I am pointing out an abuse of power. lmao.

Candy Kappa

01-10-2019, 10:18 AM

You do know that mods can see the edits of posts, right?

If you think your posts have been edited by someone else then yourself, contact another mod.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 10:21 AM

You do know that mods can see the edits of posts, right?

If you think your posts have been edited by someone else then yourself, contact another mod.

That I do. My posts have not been edited by anyone other than me. There were a few posts in PM that were sent to me that were deleted. I only saw one that was really nasty. The rest weren't all that bad.

You do realize that a thread has been locked simply because a mod disagreed with a post. Only after he insulted a member (he's in a position of power) then claimed he was being sarcastic to cover up for the fact that he broke the rules he's supposed to enforce, right? Nothing I have written at any time on this board even comes close to breaking the rules. I still expect to get banned, though. I'll just laugh as I am doing right now.

I've had the mod imply i'm stupid. Tell me I'm childish and then tell me I'm throwing a tantrum based on the fact I had the gall to question his bad actions.

Oh, and I don't actually care if I get banned. If mods can selectively apply the rules or out and out break the rules that have been set forth and generally just be terrible people then I REALLY don't care if I'm a part of this community. You can have your echochamber.

Andrew NDB

01-10-2019, 10:23 AM

You do know that mods can see the edits of posts, right?

If you think your posts have been edited by someone else then yourself, contact another mod.

I think only certain mods have moderator access/jurisdiction over specific forums within the board. It's just the way it's set up by Krang.

So that... might be akin to screaming into the abyss?

Fair enough. No more political posts in the GD then.

I don't mean to be mean, but... we were doing relatively fine with political threads until you resurfaced and took moderator action stemming from your own political beliefs. Impassioned disagreements were had, to be certain, but there wasn't like name-calling or insult hurling. You come back and suddenly people are being called racist, thread titles are being changed to suit opposing political viewpoints, and posts edited to skew things one way.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 10:37 AM

I don't mean to be mean, but... we were doing relatively fine with political threads until you resurfaced and took moderator action stemming from your own political beliefs. Impassioned disagreements were had, to be certain, but there wasn't like name-calling or insult hurling. You come back and suddenly people are being called racist, thread titles are being changed to suit opposing political viewpoints, and posts edited to skew things one way.
Thank you.

Candy Kappa

01-10-2019, 10:43 AM

It is the Trump shutdown, he even said he’d gladly do a shutdown. The thread name change reflected better the current topic of that thread.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 10:45 AM

It is the Trump shutdown, he even said he’d gladly do a shutdown. The thread name change reflected better the current topic of that thread.

Who cares about that at this point. No one. We're here to discuss a mod using his powers in an inappropriate way. The mods are meant to enforce the rules. Not do as they please.

Candy Kappa

01-10-2019, 10:50 AM

You and Andrew care apparently.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 10:53 AM

You and Andrew care apparently.

You mean a mod selectively enforcing the rules? Allowing certain members to call other members stupid? Yea, I have a problem with that.

Perfect example of the mod's selective enforcement of rules. Poster calls another posters stupid and what does the mod do? THANKS HIM.

He then (an hour later) decided to edit the post to change the title where it wasn't needed.

So... yea, he isn't doing his job right.

This isn't a right vs. left thing. This is a terrible person using their power to silence people who don't hold his opinion. And he did edit posts. He just did it quickly enough that it didn't set off the little 'last edited by . . . ' in the lower left part of his posts. He's tricky.

How is anything Andrew and I wrote factually incorrect?

Candy Kappa

01-10-2019, 11:00 AM

He thanked him on the warming not to bother with Mrmaczaps, and that’s bad.... okay? :lol:

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 11:03 AM

He thanked him on the warming not to bother with Mrmaczaps, and that’s bad.... okay? :lol:

Did you miss the part where a poster called another poster stupid? That's against the rules. He thanked him instead of telling him what he did was wrong.

He should have chastised the poster, but said poster shared his opinion he didn't delete the post. It's still up as of right now.

Can I call you stupid? No. You've gotten on me for calling people names in the past. Is it only bad when people who do it don't agree with you? Seriously?

And it's ALWAYS you Kappa. You jump to defend anyone who holds your position.

Oh, and I just added this to show that posts can be edited without the little message popping up.

Andrew NDB

01-10-2019, 11:12 AM

I reckon the takeaway will be, "And this is exactly why we can't have political threads!" and I think that's both untrue and a cop-out.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 11:15 AM

I reckon the takeaway will be, "And this is exactly why we can't have political threads!" and I think that's both untrue and a cop-out.

The funny part is we were ALWAYS civil to each other. I may not have agreed with everyone, but I never ONCE insulted anyone on this board. Even when I thought they were idiotic virtue signalers. Okay, maybe calling them uninformed.

Frankly, at this point, I don't care if I get banned.

Dealing with people with blinders on is draining.

I love that I can edit posts without it setting off the notification. It's almost like Voltron knew that too and used it accordingly.

There is a little irony that both Andrew and myself are both the children of immigrants. Nah, we couldn't possibly know what we're talking about. It's not like illegal/legal immigration hasn't impacted us on a personal level. We just HAVE TO BE NAZIS. SMH.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 11:48 AM

One final thing. Admins, PLEASE go look at my initial posts that allegedly antagonized Voltron. Look at how all I did was simply disagree with him and he summarily shut down the thread because he couldn't actually refute my claims. He never did. He called me stupid then sperged out saying I antagonized him and then shutdown the thread.

He and I then had a bit of a PM spat. That's it. He is not applying the rules fairly. He's allowed other posters that agree with his stance to insult others that don't. That's not fair.

Anyway, if you feel what I did crossed a line I will gladly leave. I have no desire to be in a place that can't handle people having a different opinion.

(That last sentence, and this, was an edit, BTW)

IndigoErth

01-10-2019, 12:38 PM

we were doing relatively fine with political threads
https://i.imgur.com/CdHZATC.gif

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 12:47 PM

https://i.imgur.com/CdHZATC.gif

The political discourse on this board IS generally fine. We disagree, we may poke fun at each other, but no one has been overtly insulted until these past couple of days. I'm just the only person to make a fuss over it. You have said a lot of stuff that I know to be factually incorrect, but I have never made a comment against you as a person. I have argued against your positions. That was something we did until these past few days...

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

01-10-2019, 12:55 PM

The political discourse on this board IS generally fine. We disagree, we may poke fun at each other, but no one has been overtly insulted until these past couple of days. I'm just the only person to make a fuss over it. You have said a lot of stuff that I know to be factually incorrect, but I have never made a comment against you as a person. I have argued against your positions. That was something we did until these past few days...

Nobody's ever threatened to rape anybody's mother or barbecue their cat... at least not that I've seen. We still insult each other, but it's the internet. I don't think it's gotten out of hand.

Nobody has to read the political threads if they don't want to.

Also, this thread has been exceptionally interesting to read.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 01:03 PM

Nobody's ever threatened to rape anybody's mother or barbecue their cat... at least not that I've seen. We still insult each other, but it's the internet. I don't think it's gotten out of hand.

Nobody has to read the political threads if they don't want to.

Also, this thread has been exceptionally interesting to read.

Haha. My time here is growing short anyway. I might as well have a little fun until I'm shown the door.

Oh, and here's another person in a position of power insulting a member of the community. NICE.

I have a suspicion that If I returned his barb I would be banned. This is the nonsense I'm talking about.

Like I said earlier. I don't actually care if I get banned. Oh, and Voltron agreed with this guy's post, btw.

Andrew NDB

01-10-2019, 01:11 PM

Like I said earlier. I don't actually care if I get banned. Oh, and Voltron agreed with this guy's post, btw.

I wonder who the "big hillbilly" is he was talking about there.

There is a little irony that both Andrew and myself are both the children of immigrants. Nah, we couldn't possibly know what we're talking about. It's not like illegal/legal immigration hasn't impacted us on a personal level. We just HAVE TO BE NAZIS. SMH.

How true.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 01:13 PM

I wonder who the "big hillbilly" is he was talking about there.

lmao.

I'd say we should start our own board, but they seem to all be dying a slow painful death anyway. If you post at any other boards let me know.

Andrew NDB

01-10-2019, 01:19 PM

lmao.

I mean, he's talking about me, right? I'm pretty freaking far from a hillbilly. Though I do enjoy my week in the woods every year, shooting my guns.

I'd say we should start our own board, but they seem to all be dying a slow painful death anyway. If you post at any other boards let me know.

I did that a decade ago with The Ninja Turtles Empire, vBulletin just like this one. Between the Drome and Mikey's TMNT (RIP), though, it just wasn't different enough to attract people at the time. At least, enough for me to justify continuing to throw money at it every month.

I own two boards, The Official Highlander Message Board (http://www.highlander-community.com) and The Green Lantern Corps Message Board (http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/forum). I'm not on them toooo much, though.

BartAllen

01-10-2019, 01:22 PM

I mean, he's talking about me, right? I'm pretty freaking far from a hillbilly. Though I do enjoy my week in the woods every year, shooting my guns.

I did that a decade ago with The Ninja Turtles Empire, vBulletin just like this one. Between the Drome and Mikey's TMNT (RIP), though, it just wasn't different enough to attract people at the time. At least, enough for me to justify continuing to throw money at it every month.

I own two boards, The Official Highlander Message Board (http://www.highlander-community.com) and The Green Lantern Corps Message Board (http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/forum). I'm not on them toooo much, though.
He is from Germany. Maybe he's only ever seen a hispanic person on television. They don't actually do the best job of portraying us on television.

There will be supreme irony that a guy that was allegedly 'defending' Mexicans shutdown/ put up a wall in a thread where a Mexican was voicing his opinion on a subject.

Roseangelo

01-10-2019, 10:26 PM

Honestly, the modding on this board is pretty much a joke. As in, it barely exists and when it does it's over random crap. Whenever something happens where we could actually use a mod to clean up something, there's rarely one available.

ProphetofGanja

01-10-2019, 10:49 PM

Also, this thread has been exceptionally interesting to read.

Right, I wish I had popcorn

Voltron

01-10-2019, 10:50 PM

I typically try to restrain myself. For trolls, I make an exception.

Andrew NDB

01-11-2019, 12:00 AM

I typically try to restrain myself. For trolls, I make an exception.

I mean, I'll give you credit. Almost by default, you're my favorite moderator besides Jester. Not because he actively does anything in my favor, but because he doesn't say or do anything crazy. In the past I'd either be on a 2 week ban or threatened with one, like it's 1999. Over nothing.

Running two boards, I've occasionally been guilty of being anal about things like correcting punctuation in thread titles, helping people out. But actually changing people's thread titles because of my own stuff? C'mon, man. You're better than that. It's been a while but I thought I remember a time when we talked amicably about... stuff.

Voltron

01-11-2019, 12:29 AM

I mean, I'll give you credit. Almost by default, you're my favorite moderator besides Jester. Not because he actively does anything in my favor, but because he doesn't say or do anything crazy. In the past I'd either be on a 2 week ban or threatened with one, like it's 1999. Over nothing.

Running two boards, I've occasionally been guilty of being anal about things like correcting punctuation in thread titles, helping people out. But actually changing people's thread titles because of my own stuff? C'mon, man. You're better than that. It's been a while but I thought I remember a time when we talked amicably about... stuff.

Andrew, I appreciate the civility here. If it bothers you that badly, I'll change it back. I have to leave it locked, though, because some other people are bit less. . . composed. And, whether you believe me or not, I do really want to talk about those things. It's fun. I like it.

There are two things I'd like to point out.

1. For my entire duration here at the Drome, there's been one time I can remember when political discussion of any kind was allowed. First in public (which didn't work out for obvious reasons) and then an exclusive board where you had to be vetted to participate. People felt that was unfair, namely the malcontents who weren't allowed in, and the whole thing was shut down.

That's where we get the Volcanic Asteroid from. It was an attempt to allow these types of discussions to exist on the board.

2. Bias works both ways. Unfortunately, we never seem to see our own. Or if we do, we tend to play it down.

I don't think there's a way for me to make a thread that doesn't seem to lean left. That's typically where I fall on the political spectrum, and I while I'm not fond of the "don't assume my gender" SJW crowd, I can see how my views on certain things certainly would rub people the wrong way.

Which kind of brings us back to #1. Sdp is right in pointing out that this is a TMNT board first and foremost. The general discussion section is meant for things like your Loki thread, or the Marlboro cigarettes thread. There's not a whole lot of controversy there. I can't think of an argument a sane person would make over a company deciding to shut down a department.

Case in point: After this all kind of blew up, I asked the super mods to reinstitute the "no politics" policy in the GD. However, they're usually pretty busy with life outside of the board, so it may take some time to come to a consensus on how to proceed.

I have some authority to enforce it, but feel as though it wouldn't be well received with the current complaints leveled against me. I would much rather have someone seen as less biased make the decision.

With that in mind, I'd also go back and close all my threads. Again, I don't want to do something that can be misconstrued as abusing my power and authority at the moment.

Now, with the blessing of the Dromers who frequent and love this board, I will go ahead and start shutting down any new political threads. That is, however, a decision I leave to the members. And even then, I'd be apprehensive about doing it.

So until a more comprehensive and agreeable resolution is formed by the people present, I will work to keep the GD as civil as I can. If you have any specific comments or concerns beyond this, please send a PM to me or one of the other mods.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 12:34 AM

I typically try to restrain myself. For trolls, I make an exception.

Oh lord. Says the joke of a mod who can't handle an opinion that doesn't align with his own.

You do realize this all came about because you didn't like my opinion because it didn't agree with the drivel you were posting. You're the only troll around here.

Did you miss the part where Andrew agreed with me? He said you're selectively editing stuff too. You can deny it all you want, but you are doing it. The way you're trying to present this as me being a troll is hilarious. I'll give you a troll, but only because you're now asking for it.

You're the only troll here. You're just a little lord farquaad type that can't deal with an opinion that doesn't align with your own.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 12:38 AM

Pretty interesting that you're are subjectively manipulating things by not allowing me to post and when I write an insult suddenly my posts start appearing. Interesting tactic.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 12:42 AM

How surprising. My posts now show up now that I've been insulting you. Again, the only troll here is you!

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 01:01 AM

Andrew, I appreciate the civility here. If it bothers you that badly, I'll change it back. I have to leave it locked, though, because some other people are bit less. . . composed. And, whether you believe me or not, I do really want to talk about those things. It's fun. I like it.

There are two things I'd like to point out.

1. For my entire duration here at the Drome, there's been one time I can remember when political discussion of any kind was allowed. First in public (which didn't work out for obvious reasons) and then an exclusive board where you had to be vetted to participate. People felt that was unfair, namely the malcontents who weren't allowed in, and the whole thing was shut down.

That's where we get the Volcanic Asteroid from. It was an attempt to allow these types of discussions to exist on the board.

2. Bias works both ways. Unfortunately, we never seem to see our own. Or if we do, we tend to play it down.

I don't think there's a way for me to make a thread that doesn't seem to lean left. That's typically where I fall on the political spectrum, and I while I'm not fond of the "don't assume my gender" SJW crowd, I can see how my views on certain things certainly would rub people the wrong way.

Which kind of brings us back to #1. Sdp is right in pointing out that this is a TMNT board first and foremost. The general discussion section is meant for things like your Loki thread, or the Marlboro cigarettes thread. There's not a whole lot of controversy there. I can't think of an argument a sane person would make over a company deciding to shut down a department.

Case in point: After this all kind of blew up, I asked the super mods to reinstitute the "no politics" policy in the GD. However, they're usually pretty busy with life outside of the board, so it may take some time to come to a consensus on how to proceed.

I have some authority to enforce it, but feel as though it wouldn't be well received with the current complaints leveled against me. I would much rather have someone seen as less biased make the decision.

With that in mind, I'd also go back and close all my threads. Again, I don't want to do something that can be misconstrued as abusing my power and authority at the moment.

Now, with the blessing of the Dromers who frequent and love this board, I will go ahead and start shutting down any new political threads. That is, however, a decision I leave to the members. And even then, I'd be apprehensive about doing it.

So until a more comprehensive and agreeable resolution is formed by the people present, I will work to keep the GD as civil as I can. If you have any specific comments or concerns beyond this, please send a PM to me or one of the other mods.

Voltron's posts: A guy made comments I couldn't refute so I sperged out like a little bitch and threw a temper tantrum. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I provided evidence showing that the russian collusion is fake. And you lost your ****. It's fake. Trump is going to win again in 2020 (not that I want him to). And it's due to cucky wimps like you.

And no. I wasn't biased at all in this or any other thread. I asked you for evidence to support your thoughts on this matter you just wrote that I wouldn't listen because I will 'hand wave it away' because it doesn't align with my beliefs. How do you know that? You don't. Ultimately this all happened because you couldn't refute me.

Now do what all you wimps do: Block me and then make snarky comments about me that somehow make you think you have the high road. We both know you overreacted like a wimp. You admitted as much in our other conversation.

It's funny that you're now trying to take the high road while simultaneously deleting posts that show that you're doing some pretty underhanded stuff. So please just ban me. I'd rather not be on a board with a mod staff that insults its members and then does underhanded nonsense to try to present themselves in a better light.

Oh, and the only reason I'm insulting you is because you've done nothing but insult me this entire time. I've just now decided to come down to your neckbeard level. Ya wimpy manlet. AHAHAHAHA.

Holy **** 'vetted to participate' meaning that if they don't share your opinion that they're a troll that needs to be silenced. The hypocrisy of your nonsense is VERY telling.

And none of your views bothered me. You actually presented some compelling evidence initially. It was biased as the day is long. But then you couldn't handle the fact that someone posted a video of the CEO of google saying that the russian collusion was a big ol' nothing burger.

You weren't apprehensive about shutting down the thread. You did it because you wanted to. You even said that you are a 'high IQ' mod that can't deal with 'propaganda' UNIRONICALLY. Meaning that you couldn't handle evidence that showed your narrative to be the BS that it is.

Like I wrote in the other thread. You're a weak willed manlet that has no real power in the real world, so you abuse your power here. I have a sneaking suspicion you're doing it with only one hand on the keyboard too. lmao.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 01:32 AM

Voltron, I was composed in that thread the entire time. You can retroactively decide to change this to suit you. That's fine. You are in the position of power here. The way you subjectively edit stuff is downright hilarious. If this situation wasn't so sad, and you weren't such a unmitigated loser it would be funny. Actually, it's still funny but only because you're just a joke of a human being.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 01:53 AM

Here's a video of Van Jones admitting that the Russian collusion is all fake.

https://youtu.be/l2G360HrSAs

I'm done. I look forward to Voltron's spin on this. I'll be laughing at it.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 02:15 AM

One note.

I just want to talk about the messages I've been receiving through PM.

Thank you for your support everyone. I'm surprised by the number of you that actually agree with me. It's a shame that a mod can just make **** up to suit their ideologically slanted nonsense.

I'll definitely take a look at all the groups and links you've sent me. I can't promise I'll join any groups or boards, but I'm glad to know I'm not the only person here who is disgusted by Voltron's antics.

It's a shame that he can ruin the good time we were having discussing this stuff in a civil manner (more or less ;) )

Anyway, thanks again.

I appreciate the support.

Oh, I'll be sure to delete your messages so the crybaby won't try to go after you next.

Candy Kappa

01-11-2019, 02:40 AM

BartAllen, are you secretly Davetello having a meltdown?

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 02:44 AM

BartAllen, are you secretly Davetello having a meltdown?

... You got me. :roll:

You are literally the living embodiment of cringe. I'd tell you to get a life, but I feel like that would be something beyond your reach.

And if you don't like this Davetello, I'm going to assume he's a road scholar compared to you.

Candy Kappa

01-11-2019, 03:02 AM

Looking at your post in this thread and the Trump Shutdown thread, maybe you should take a deep breath and take your own advice

I'd tell you to get a life.

especially with your latest post in this thread.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 03:07 AM

Looking at your post in this thread and the Trump Shutdown thread, maybe you should take a deep breath and take your own advice

especially with your latest post in this thread.

Again... :roll:

Still doesn't take away from the fact that you are the living embodiment of cringe. I'm done with you. Have a nice life.

You get to say you had me banned. Good job. You get the biggest virtue signaler award for being a loathsome imbecile.

But keep going... the responses are funny. It almost makes it sound like you're able to form a cogent thought that isn't placed there by some liberal entity.

Redeemer

01-11-2019, 03:13 AM

It is odd, though, that you are a member of a group on this board that uses a racial slur that is aimed at caucasian people.

Honky killer? Wow.

As a POC myself, I find that prejudice to be extremely divisive. How does that type of nonsense have a place on this board? Seriously?

And, frankly, you have struck a nerve with me. How do you think it's at all appropriate to make a remark implying someone is intellectually disabled? Do you not understand the weight that remark has? How do you think that makes actual people with disabilities feel?

Personally, I'm not bothered by the horrible remarks you've made. I just feel bad that a person with an intellectual/physical disability might have had to see that.

It is very disturbing that there is a group like that on the board, but judging by the members listed it was made a long time ago before the rise of Political Correctness or the rise of awareness and understanding.

So I've had a mod make an implication that I am intellectually stunted simply for disagreeing with his political views.

I also did not make ableist remarks against him (the velcro comment). Honestly, I feel like I'm on an episode of Punk'd, lmao.

It wasn't right for him to make that remark and he shouldn't especially sense he is a mod. He should not have changed Andrew's thread title or engaged the situation the way he did, BUT HE IS HUMAN! People make mistakes its apart of the human experience.

Also you should not have gone so low as to make that other thread. You should have kept the high road instead of making that thread....

Honestly, the modding on this board is pretty much a joke. As in, it barely exists and when it does it's over random crap. Whenever something happens where we could actually use a mod to clean up something, there's rarely one available.

Unfortunately most of the mods have moved on from the forum and we honestly need more/ new mods. We honestly need a new administrator not bc Krang is terrible or inadequate, but it is very clear he does not have the necessary time to devote to running this forum. I say this especially bc of how long people have had to wait to get accounts proved, essentially hindering the growth of our dying community.

Now, with the blessing of the Dromers who frequent and love this board, I will go ahead and start shutting down any new political threads. That is, however, a decision I leave to the members. And even then, I'd be apprehensive about doing it.

So until a more comprehensive and agreeable resolution is formed by the people present, I will work to keep the GD as civil as I can. If you have any specific comments or concerns beyond this, please send a PM to me or one of the other mods.

I think it would be best to not allow any threads regarding to political discussion, bc despite what others have said or may think this has been a problem before this. We have had several members banned recently for politics spilling out into threads.

I by no means condone Voltron's name calling or his action in changing Andrews title, but this is a relatively isolated incident in terms of him calling someone names or improperly using his power as a mod. He has been a great mod for as long as I have been on here for the most part.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 03:15 AM

It is very disturbing that there is a group like that on the board, but judging by the members listed it was made a long time ago before the rise of Political Correctness or the rise of awareness and understanding.

It wasn't right for him to make that remark and he shouldn't especially sense he is a mod. He should not have changed Andrew's thread title or engaged the situation the way he did, BUT HE IS HUMAN! People make mistakes its apart of the human experience.

Unfortunately most of the mods have moved on from the forum and we honestly need more/ new mods. We honestly need a new administrator not bc Krang is terrible or inadequate, but it is very clear he does not have the necessary time to devote to running this forum. I say this especially bc of how long people have had to wait to get accounts proved, essentially hindering the growth of our dying community.

I think it would be best to not allow any threads regarding to political discussion, bc despite what others have said or may think this has been a problem before this. We have had several members banned recently for politics spilling out into threads.

I by no means condone Voltron's name calling or his action in changing Andrews title, but this is a relatively isolated incident in terms of him calling someone names or improperly using his power as a mod. He has been a great mod for as long as I have been on here for the most part.

You and about 10 other people have noticed that he's doing it. If I have to end up on the chopping block to show that he's abusing his powers then so be it. If it's okay for a mod to act like an unmitigated idiot then it should be alright for me to do the same.

Oh, and the idiotic way he tried to cover his nonsense also speaks to his character. He did what he did because he is a mod and he can get away with it.

Leo656

01-11-2019, 03:18 AM

Man, this all kinda takes me back to 2004-ish. Except there was way more furries and conspiracy theorists.

Sigh. We all got old.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 03:25 AM

Man, this all kinda takes me back to 2004-ish. Except there was way more furries and conspiracy theorists.

Sigh. We all got old.

I'm just speaking truth to power.

Redeemer

01-11-2019, 03:31 AM

You and about 10 other people have noticed that he's doing it. If I have to end up on the chopping block to show that he's abusing his powers then so be it. If it's okay for a mod to act like an unmitigated idiot then it should be alright for me to do the same.

Oh, and the idiotic way he tried to cover his nonsense also speaks to his character. He did what he did because he is a mod and he can get away with it.

I am pretty sure everyone noticed just by reading the thread not bc you are blasting him right now. My point being is though is no further need to continue blasting him or insulting each other.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 03:33 AM

I am pretty sure everyone noticed just by reading the thread not bc you are blasting him right now. My point being is though is no further need to continue blasting him or insulting each other.

Like I said. A person in a position of power is abusing said power. It's my duty to speak truth to power.

I have nothing to lose but my chains.

Leo656

01-11-2019, 03:36 AM

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 03:40 AM

I often feel like it's sad that a group of mostly adults have to be tightly restricted only to discussing things of little consequence that are ultimately aimed at children.

But then it becomes clear why. And I just kinda sigh and go pet my cat.

So opposing opinions shouldn't be ALLOWED? What are you saying? How dare you, Leo. I thought were ON THE SAME SIDE!

I just want to point out the hypocrisy of this situation. How am I the bad guy here? People have admitted that what he did was wrong. This entire situation IS A JOKE! I really am mad now. I really did think you were on my side, Leo. I guess you're just a cuck too.

Now I really am done. This board has offended me greatly. Hughly even.

Leo656

01-11-2019, 03:48 AM

Well, they should be, but clearly aren't, generally. I've often pointed it out myself, but eh, people are busy. It would be nice if collectively, the TMNT fanbase were capable of mature, back-and-forth discourse without it erupting into madness literally every single time, but I gave up that hope quite a while ago.

I have a larger theory about people who identify too strongly with kids cartoons well into middle age being incapable of a certain emotional maturity, but I can't get it published anywhere because it makes the Disney people nervous. You know how THEY are.

And I never said I stood against you, merely a broad observation of the general state of affairs. Which isn't new, nor related in any way to you directly.

For the record, I did privately express my dismay at the situation earlier, towards your defense, but wasn't in a hurry to make any noise about it because in case it hasn't been made clear, I'm kind of a heat magnet and I don't have the energy to get involved with a "thing" with a half dozen people as per usual.

But no, without explicitly taking a side I have quietly spoken elsewhere towards your defense. Just for the record.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 03:51 AM

Well, they should be, but clearly aren't, generally. I've often pointed it out myself, but eh, people are busy. It would be nice if collectively, the TMNT fanbase were capable of mature, back-and-forth discourse without it erupting into madness literally every single time, but I gave up that hope quite a while ago.

I have a larger theory about people who identify too strongly with kids cartoons well into middle age being incapable of a certain emotional maturity, but I can't get it published anywhere because it makes the Disney people nervous. You know how THEY are.

And I never said I stood against you, merely a general observation of the general state of affairs. Which isn't new, nor related in any way to you directly.
So you're saying that I lack emotional maturity because I like a child's property? You've antagonized me!

Whatever man. This entire situation is garbage. If I didn't know any better I'd say that you're just messing with me. I don't appreciate that. I'm trying to be serious here. I am deeply bothered and upset that someone got mad about a post of mine.

Leo656

01-11-2019, 04:00 AM

No, no, go back and read my edited and clarified post. I made a general "We can't have nice things" statement that you apparently chose to take as a personal shot, which it wasn't. I also didn't aim my thesis at you specifically, it's just a very not nice opinion I have about people who comment on message boards in general. I say it to Prowler and CKD alllll the time, just ask 'em. It's just an observation about how when people who congregate to discuss children's programming try and branch out, it erupts into all this no matter who's actually involved in the conversation. It's like it just doesn't WORK.

I do find it sad but I definitely don't think it has anything to do with you specifically. Sorry about the misunderstanding, but I understand you may have misread my point in the heat of things. It happens.

BartAllen

01-11-2019, 04:05 AM

Leo656

01-11-2019, 04:16 AM

Understandable.

I was given the ol' 23-Skidoo not that long ago because someone from Nick demanded it, so hey. I feel ya.

The Powers That Be have long since become something akin to King Ghidorah's premature younger sibling, Chad. Each of the dragon's heads has its own personality and agenda, but they don't communicate and sometimes most of them are sleeping. Any of them can attack with deadly force at any given time, for any reason or NO reason, and then the other two heads wake up and take great issue with the carnage that was left in their absence.

Unlike Ghidorah, Chad usually just yells at everyone to behave and slunks away, too old for this sh*t.

Vegita-San

01-11-2019, 05:49 AM

Who cares about that at this point. No one. We're here to discuss a mod using his powers in an inappropriate way. The mods are meant to enforce the rules. Not do as they please.

mods are just like people. they change over time.

I have one mod on here that is more likely to insult me and agree with the people I am having problems with than try and rationally help with the situation. hence why I'm glad jester got promoted.

On another board, one mod is slowly turning SJW as well, and threw a rather insulting insult at me in PM. I brought it out into the open, without identifying the person, and it seems like i'm not the only one with mod problems.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

01-11-2019, 08:52 AM

Man, this all kinda takes me back to 2004-ish. Except there was way more furries and conspiracy theorists.

Sigh. We all got old.

We're still allowed to hate furries and flat-earthers, though, right?

Leo656

01-11-2019, 08:58 AM

I've known some pretty cool furries, just to be real, but there's definitely a few Flat Earth people I've known who deserve to be set on fire and beaten with reeds. So we can make that an afternoon.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

01-11-2019, 09:21 AM

I've known some pretty cool furries, just to be real, but there's definitely a few Flat Earth people I've known who deserve to be set on fire and beaten with reeds. So we can make that an afternoon.

It's a date!

Leo656

01-11-2019, 09:32 AM

Nothing past holding hands. I don't wanna catch your "Gay". :trazz:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

01-11-2019, 09:35 AM

Nothing past holding hands. I don't wanna catch your "Gay". :trazz:

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant.gif

DarkFell

01-11-2019, 09:45 AM

^ You two better kiss and make up, or else we're gonna have to deal with a sad Cylons in the DF. One mop and a bucket might not be enough to get up all of the tears in that place.

Leo656

01-11-2019, 09:47 AM

His tears if we're lucky.

Hahaaaaaa. Gross.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

01-11-2019, 10:15 AM

his tears if we're lucky.

Hahaaaaaa. Gross.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!

IndigoErth

01-11-2019, 10:22 AM

Rant rant rant

Jesus. Maybe try having a Snickers and a nap.

The Deadman

01-12-2019, 07:14 AM

I think we're all forgetting the bigger picture here. This is the Internet, this is not the real world. There is no reason to get this upset over text on a message board. Unless you're being threatened or someone is throwing your personal information up on sites like 4Chan, if you're unable to handle text or banter on a website, maybe you should turn on your parental controls where it's nothing but Hello Kitty websites.

Candy Kappa

01-12-2019, 07:28 AM

Woof, I missed out on the fun with the “Voltron is a bitch” thread that is closed. What a ride

IndigoErth

01-12-2019, 10:19 AM

Goodness. Lots and lots of irony in those posts.

MikeandRaph87

01-12-2019, 11:05 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/Pq31kHa0MDWuc/giphy.gif

snake

01-12-2019, 12:56 PM

Holy f*ck lol

Sumac

01-12-2019, 06:41 PM

Technically, mods shouldn't insult members of the forum, since it provides grounds for bullying of those users and in general sets an unsightly example.

On the other hand, this particular mod is "on the right side of history" and as we all know, people "on the right side of history" can do no wrong and their goals and just, brave and beautiful.

So they can bend the rules, because, when you are fighting for the progress, one post at a time, against people who violate rules and act aggressively towards others, all ways are good to achieve just goals. Even when you are going against your own ideology.

Because, it had never backfired in the history.
No, sir.

TL;DR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs)

BartAllen

01-12-2019, 07:29 PM

I speak truth to power!

IndigoErth

01-12-2019, 07:32 PM

Thought you weren't interested in posting anymore?

BartAllen

01-12-2019, 07:36 PM

Thought you weren't interested in posting anymore?

I'm not interested in posting anymore. I'm only posting to spread awareness of a corrupt and ideologically driven madman. Voltron simply doesn't have the temperament to be a mod. Bullies don't win! They don't!

The Deadman

01-12-2019, 08:30 PM

I'm not interested in posting anymore. I'm only posting to spread awareness of a corrupt and ideologically driven madman. Voltron simply doesn't have the temperament to be a mod. Bullies don't win! They don't!

They are if they're getting to you like this.

Voltron

01-12-2019, 08:47 PM

Xav

01-12-2019, 09:08 PM

I was given the ol' 23-Skidoo not that long ago because someone from Nick demanded it, so hey. I feel ya. Wait, what? Who was it? What did you do?

Candy Kappa

01-13-2019, 04:00 AM

They are if they're getting to you like this.

I speak truth to power!

looks more like you're just digging that hole bigger. Or are you still just being sarcastic, cause this thread, "Voltron is a Bitch" thread and your conversation with Voltron does not look like a person being snarky :lol:

Leo656

01-13-2019, 04:17 AM

Wait, what? Who was it? What did you do?

That's a novel I'd rather not crack open again. Long story short, somebody up high at NickTurtles didn't appreciate my gallows humor, so I had to sit in a corner for a while or else they'd unleash C'thulu on the forum, or something.

It's more complicated, but also more stupid. And I don't like naming names, but I do appreciate that those names were immediately named, to me, by those with verified authority to name those names. So that going forward I may know which of those names, in general parlance, "Ain't Sh*t." :trazz:

BartAllen

01-13-2019, 06:55 AM

Dammit! He's figured me out! I live out my power fantasies on a Ninja Turtles message board!

Also, I feel entrance ramps are unfair!

See me now, that you may know who the true Great Satan is! MUAHAHAHA!

In all seriousness, I just think you had a little bit of an episode. You admitted you did. You also labelled me a lot of stuff so I decided to play it up a bit.

I sent people messages that I was going to do this.

I mean, you called me a troll, a malcontent and a few other choice things. I just wanted to live up to your expectations.

And digging a hole? FFS. Candy, I told you in PM the other day that I was doing this as a joke and you're still coming into the thread and acting as if I'm serious. Come on now. :lol:

I'm quoting liberal senators. I'm making references to Shrek. You really think I'm being serious? Sad.

Seriously, if I was really upset by a mod sperging out by someone having an oppositional opinion, I would have simply left. This bit of 'drama' has just been me poking fun at the situation. I rarely post here anyway. This little 'lovers quarrel' I've had with Voltron has just been me having fun.

Anywho. I can continue to pretend to be mad on a messageboard if that brings something to your life (it has brought a little fun to the board).

:)

Holy smokes. Truth to power? No one thought to ask if my dumbass was being serious? Some of you guys wouldn't know an idiotic joke if it came up and bit you on the ass. Sad.

Now, I still think it's funny that a mod, someone who is meant to set enforce the rules, flagrantly disregarded them when it suits him, but the rest of this? I was just hamming it up.

The worst part is that some of you are going to think I really meant all of this silliness. Even when faced with all the obvious jokes I have obviously sprinkled through my posts. Oh well.

And this latest response by Voltron is the only funny post he's made the entire time. If he had approached me like that originally I probably would have thought he was an alright guy. The nonsense he posted the other day made me think he was a crybaby liberal that's been throwing a two year tantrum because cheeto won back in 16.

I've even attached a message that I sent to a number of people telling them what I was up to. I really don't care about this situation. This has all just been a bit of fun to me. If you want to think I've been serious, cool. I'm glad that my 'acting' was able to convince you. :)

The Deadman

01-13-2019, 07:08 AM

Cool, so you're an attention whore. Got it.

BartAllen

01-13-2019, 07:13 AM

Cool, so you're an attention whore. Got it.

Now that is probably true. LMAO.

Candy Kappa

01-13-2019, 07:16 AM

Cool, so you're an attention whore. Got it.

That or he’s trying to pull a Schrödinger's Douche

BartAllen

01-13-2019, 07:18 AM

That or he’s trying to pull a Schrödinger's Douche
Holy ****. You are a gift that keeps giving. lmao. Never change. :lol:

I literally provide EVIDENCE that I'm joking and you still want to imply I'm being serious. Well, as I wrote in my earlier post, I knew that would happen too. :lol:

Whatever makes you happy, Candy.

I mean, how dense are you Candy? I'm literally quoting Rashida Tlaib and Trump, and you think I'm being serious? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I won't let reality get in the way of your silliness. lmao.

The Deadman

01-13-2019, 08:04 AM

>makes threads bashing a mod
>everyone is questioning why this is happening
>ITS JUST A PRANK BRO

Wew lad

BartAllen

01-13-2019, 08:37 AM

>makes threads bashing a mod
>everyone is questioning why this is happening
>ITS JUST A PRANK BRO

Wew lad

:o:lol:

You got me. It's not like I sent messages to multiple people saying I was going to act like a troll since I had a mod tell me I was a troll simply for disagreeing with him. Said mod who also stated that I was antagonizing him simply because I disagreed with him. I mean, did you even see the original exchange that set all of this off? I disagreed with the dude, lol. That's it. He then proceeded to lose his **** simply because I disagreed with him. All of this after he had already told other posters they were stupid. lol.

Said mod creating poll after poll with the silliest **** I have ever seen. I guess if you disregard the fact that I had to step this low to approach his level. Then yea. I guess you could say that what I was doing is silly.

So yea. It is a joke. It really is. You can choose to not think it is. Whatever. Cool.

Oh, and I can't wait for your snarky response. You and Candy (shock) are the only two continuing with me at this point. lmao.

Wew lad indeed. lol.

I mean. Look at this pure comedy gold he threw at my feet simply for disagreeing with him (he edited out the juiciest bits).
This is not the work of a well-intended person. He's a crybaby that couldn't deal with a dissenting opinion. lmao. The guy literally called me a troll disagreeing with him. I chose to show him what a troll was. It's really that simple.

The guy, unironically, said I was 'wasting bandwidth' for literally talking about the subject at hand. He literally lost his **** because I had the gall to disagree with him. It's truly hilarious. And who am I to disappoint a weirdo with the lack of self awareness to say that he is going to use his, and I quote, 'high IQ' to stop all the 'propaganda' lmao. That's comedy. Pure and simple.

The worst part. All I did was share a video of the google CEO stating that the Russian collusion was nothing. lmao. It really is funny.
He claims to be against propaganda when all he is doing is aping corporate propaganda. Again, comedy gold. lolol.

I can screen the rest of his idiotic diatribes, but I think I've proven my point. I'm sure you will disagree. That's fine. I really don't care. I just find this entire situation to be HILARIOUS. It is.

And I am still at a loss for how ANYONE can infer 'TONE' from a wall of text. He pushed implications that were never there. lmao. Keep defending the weirdo, though. lolol.