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The Great Saiyaman
01-11-2019, 03:41 PM
Well, as I was going through the thread about the IDW series in a movie adaptation, it made my gears turn, being a big fan of the 2012 series and knowing that a lot are with me, made me wonder what I should love to see in a 2012 adapted movie.

Plots from the 2012 series which I would love to see in a movie.
- The Kraang as an alien race who secretly have been invading planet earth for thousands of years.
- April is part Kraang
- Karai being the lost long daughter of Hamato Yoshi and she was raised by Shredder.

Characters
- Newtralizer
- Slash
- Chris Bradford and Xever Mendez, dangerous and cunning henchmen of Shredder, plus seeing Rahzar would be so awesome.
- Tigerclaw. In the other thread it was mentioned how old Hob would be so awesome, the same can be said about Tigerclaw.

In addition I'd also would love to see.
- Master Splinter as a fourty-something and him being a tall, authoritative figure, rather than an ancient, Yoda-like presence.
- The interaction between Casey Jones and Raphael seeing how similar they are, in other series that plot was pretty much discarded.
- The fact that the Turtles themselves behaved like real teens.
- Having Greg Cipes reprise his role as Michelangelo, he was just THE guy.

Andrew NDB
01-11-2019, 03:50 PM
On the big screen? No, not one thing I can think of.

newfan
01-11-2019, 03:54 PM
I'd like the origins of Saki and Yoshi, being raised as brothers. Though I like other versions too, this I would happily take in a movie along with some other things.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-11-2019, 04:05 PM
- The Kraang as an alien race who secretly have been invading planet earth for thousands of years.


Wasn't it millions of years in the cartoon? (even if we never know if it was just a claim)

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-11-2019, 04:20 PM
While I despise the 2012 series in general, Oroku Saki stealing Yoshi's daughter and raising her to hate him and become Karai is pretty great.

IndigoErth
01-11-2019, 04:21 PM
A creepy Rat King maybe. If going with realistic CGI again, a Slash somewhat like that one would be cool (as opposed to the dopey one from the original cartoon).

I want to say Bishop, but I'd prefer one more like 2003's.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-11-2019, 04:21 PM
Nickelodeon Leatherhead was great.

Andrew NDB
01-11-2019, 04:29 PM
While I despise the 2012 series in general, Oroku Saki stealing Yoshi's daughter and raising her to hate him and become Karai is pretty great.

Oh yeah. I'd keep that but apply it to Pimiko. Karai should be Karai... and not Oroku Karai.

FredWolfLeonardo
01-11-2019, 04:31 PM
Ciro's pitch of the story behind the Mutagen Bomb, which I don't think is ever gonna happen in animation (still waiting for the book).

Also, I'd rather see the actual 2012 turtles on the big screen with improved animation rather than something else that is inspired.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-11-2019, 04:34 PM
Slash

Slash was not originally a Nickelodeon character, so I guess you mean the concept of Slash first being Raphael's pet turtle?

newfan
01-11-2019, 04:35 PM
Karai having a role unlike the little use they made of her in the PD movies would be good. I would take her 2012 role or something lightly adjusted. I don't need her to be mutated though. I'd tone those down a tad for the big screen.

Leatherhead, as mentioned somewhere above would be a good extra if they pulled him off in the live action CGI.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-11-2019, 04:46 PM
I don't need her to be mutated though.

That was unpopular already when the Nickelodeon series aried.

The Great Saiyaman
01-11-2019, 04:46 PM
Slash was not originally a Nickelodeon character, so I guess you mean the concept of Slash first being Raphael's pet turtle?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9Cc_heh_hj4/hqdefault.jpg
I meant Slash in the way he would end up looking with proper CGI.

But yeah, him being Raphael's pet turtle is a very good plot to keep around.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/55/5a/70555a80e868546cfb91c7524f4c8388.gif

newfan
01-11-2019, 04:47 PM
That was unpopular already when the Nickelodeon series aried.

Yeah, least they didn't leave her pure snake but still rather she'd not been mutated.

neatoman
01-12-2019, 05:23 AM
Uh, let me think here... I guess that cosmic ocean might seem cool with Hollywood level CGI?

... I can't really think of anything else that would be especially interesting in a movie. There aren't really many things I'd be more than just OK with being on the big screen to be honest. Or even returning in general.

It would probably be easier to list things I'm not so keen on seeing come back.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-12-2019, 06:53 AM
Donatello and Michelangelo using bladed weapons.

The Great Saiyaman
01-12-2019, 09:14 AM
Yeah, least they didn't leave her pure snake but still rather she'd not been mutated.

I don't know, that moment when she fell into that vat and the Turtles and Shredder looking so devastated at it happening was one of the best moments of the second season, it was easily as dark as any Mirage comics story lines. Nobody won that fight, they all lost.

Or in a movie they could have a story line where Karai already HAS the mutation, she flashes a fork tongue and green snake eyes every once in a while, just a little hint that something happened to her. Maybe Shredder had her mutated as a fail safe measure, to keep her in line. "Don't disobey me daughter, or else..."

Candy Kappa
01-12-2019, 09:26 AM
I'd love to see more Turtle-ly designs appear on the silver screen ala elements 2012 had with limb designs and more accurate shell shapes.

Mikey using a kusarigama, just make it permanent and ditch the 'chucks.

Yoshi and Saki having a closer relationship before becoming enemies.

newfan
01-12-2019, 09:50 AM
I don't know, that moment when she fell into that vat and the Turtles and Shredder looking so devastated at it happening was one of the best moments of the second season, it was easily as dark as any Mirage comics story lines. Nobody won that fight, they all lost.

Or in a movie they could have a story line where Karai already HAS the mutation, she flashes a fork tongue and green snake eyes every once in a while, just a little hint that something happened to her. Maybe Shredder had her mutated as a fail safe measure, to keep her in line. "Don't disobey me daughter, or else..."

The scene sure did have an impact and with the emotions of a few characters. I found it sad for her though. I like that Shredder didn't want to do that to her though, even if he did recklessly dangle her above the mutagen and swing his blades near the chain...he'd go far as we'd seen but there was a limit when it came to her or internal conflict, even if not much.
The mutation would give her an advantage but on the other hand I like her as a worthy fighter without that something else helping.

Edit: Also Candy's post above, agreed there, I liked the less bulky looking shells.

I liked the 2012 designs but thinking of the big screen obviously they would need to be altered to suit a more real looking situation, thinking about a tougher look would refer a little more to Mikey and Donnie maybe but they don't need to be like scary mean, just fit the big screen

Oh and finally, Tarris Vaal …. are you coming to weigh in? :)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-12-2019, 10:09 AM
Tigerclaw.

Tigerclaw taking over the Foot Clan following the

Metalwolf
01-13-2019, 12:47 PM
If it's a movie and not a TV series, I could go for it. Movies have bigger budget s and go for higher age ratings.

-Yoshi's and Saki's history as 'brothers'

-Karai as Yoshi's long lost daughter (but no later mutation, keep her human)

-Kraang as a subgroup of Utroms

-Have the Turtles start out with their signature weapons and masks, but later 'advance' to their appearance and weapons seen in 'Vision Quest'

-Chris Bradford and Xevor, with Chris still being Shredder's top student, but this time, actually showing it. It was mentioned a couple times in the show like it was a big deal, but he still got beaten like a chump.

-Xever and Bradford being mutated. Both were cool, but Bradord's second mutation got wasted when he was still beaten down like a chump. The horrific skeletal mutation should be kept, but it should make him almost feral and extremely dangerous, pushing him over the edge when Shredder replaces him with Tigerclaw (not for incompetence, but due to being hard to control)

-Tigerclaw (duh)

-The Rat King looking kind of corpse-like

-Slash being a sort of anti-hero

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-13-2019, 01:01 PM
It would probably be easier to list things I'm not so keen on seeing come back.

What I don't want back

April O'Neil being a teenage girl, or half-Kraang.

Characters like Karai, Kirby O'Neil or Shredder mutating.

Dimension X being such a weird place. Make it another galaxy instead.

Pulverizer.

Foot robots are pointless with both Shredder and the Kraang. The turtles can knock Human Foot ninjas unconscious (uness it's Mirage on the big screen) while the Kraang's robots can be hacked and slashed into pieces without any moral problems.

newfan
01-13-2019, 02:18 PM
Course, I assumed live action, if an animated movie was also in the speculation then that may be a little different and allow for a little more still. In terms of mutant characters, too many would be too much in live action, for me anyway. I'd still have a tad less in an animated movie than in the show, including Shredder as pointed out above by Original TMNT fan. Becoming Super Shredder in the show made him loose the last part of himself and become more of a threat, therefore the TMNT had to choice but to kill him, so I get it from that point but otherwise no I liked him better in human form.

The Great Saiyaman
01-14-2019, 08:36 AM
Course, I assumed live action, if an animated movie was also in the speculation then that may be a little different and allow for a little more still. In terms of mutant characters, too many would be too much in live action, for me anyway. I'd still have a tad less in an animated movie than in the show, including Shredder as pointed out above by Original TMNT fan. Becoming Super Shredder in the show made him loose the last part of himself and become more of a threat, therefore the TMNT had to choice but to kill him, so I get it from that point but otherwise no I liked him better in human form.

I DO mean live action, I should have pointed that out.

One thing I really want to see is the interaction between Leonardo and Karai, they were the only couple of the series where it felt believable, it was never a case of "We HAVE to give Leonardo a girlfriend just because."
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The way they exchanged banter, the way they sparked the other on, even during the season two episodes before Tiger Claw came around. How do they call it "Flirting with danger."

So if they have the story line of Karai as Splinter's daughter, they should include that click she and Leo had.

newfan
01-14-2019, 09:35 AM
Pulling at my heart strings there Great Saiyaman :) much I got caught up in that (my only tmnt ship) I'm not too sure about that working well in live action....having a special connection as in an alliance and they have a good chemistry just generally interacting could work though.

neatoman
01-14-2019, 11:10 AM
What I don't want back

April O'Neil being a teenage girl, or half-Kraang.

Characters like Karai, Kirby O'Neil or Shredder mutating.

Dimension X being such a weird place. Make it another galaxy instead.

Pulverizer.

Foot robots are pointless with both Shredder and the Kraang. The turtles can knock Human Foot ninjas unconscious (uness it's Mirage on the big screen) while the Kraang's robots can be hacked and slashed into pieces without any moral problems.

I agree that most of these aren't stellar concepts. Although I don't really care that much about April's age, Donatello's crush was a bigger problem, which admittedly might have been part of the reason to age her down. To be honest, having the turtles openly admit being attracted to humans is off-putting an awkward. If you're going to present a species whose only few members are related, it's probably best if sexuality and romantic feelings never get adressed.

Not sure about Dimension X though, if you're going to call something an alternate dimension, wouldn't you want it to be weird? Otherwise it might as well be another part of the universe.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-14-2019, 11:53 AM
Not sure about Dimension X though, if you're going to call something an alternate dimension, wouldn't you want it to be weird? Otherwise it might as well be another part of the universe.

I don't want Dimension X to be another dimension, with different laws of physics. I want it to be regular a galaxy within our Universe, just like the Milky Way Galaxy or the Andromeda Galaxy.

The Archie comics definately went that route. If you want it a galaxy and think the name dimension is too confusing for a galaxy, maybe the Theta Galaxy should be used instead (as in 4 Kids).