TMNT comics reboot series

[Toxin45]

With IDW rebooting Transformers and GI Joe will IDW do the same to TMNT? I mean other comic publisher would probably reboot TMNT comics and probably add from previous continuities and merge them togeter to create an even bigger ultimate TMNT and with Mirage comics sadly never concluding,Image comics ending,and Archie comics finished I think rebooting the TMNT comics would be the next logical step do you agree?

[daggio]

With IDW rebooting Transformers and GI Joe will IDW do the same to TMNT? I mean other comic publisher would probably reboot TMNT comics and probably add from previous continuities and merge them togeter to create an even bigger ultimate TMNT and with Mirage comics sadly never concluding,Image comics ending,and Archie comics finished I think rebooting the TMNT comics would be the next logical step do you agree?

I agree that eventually maybe a reboot should be considered, just not anytime soon. There's plenty of stories to be told from characters that have storylines hinted at (Leatherhead and Bishop) or from characters that have recently been introduced (Ch'rell) and even ongoing storylines that have a long time before completion I'm sure (Pantheon). So, yes, I can see a reboot in the cards in the future, just not anytime within the next few years.

If a reboot does occur, I'd be interested in seeing how the origin story tops the reincarnation origin.

[Toxin45]

I agree that eventually maybe a reboot should be considered, just not anytime soon. There's plenty of stories to be told from characters that have storylines hinted at (Leatherhead and Bishop) or from characters that have recently been introduced (Ch'rell) and even ongoing storylines that have a lot time before completion I'm sure (Pantheon). So, yes, I can see a reboot in the cards in the future, just not anytime within the next few years.

If a reboot does occur, I'd be interested in seeing how the origin story tops the reincarnation origin.

Also the Shredder in hell mini series that ties into the pantheon storyline and probably the 100th issue.

[ChosenOne]

I agree that eventually maybe a reboot should be considered, just not anytime soon. There's plenty of stories to be told from characters that have storylines hinted at (Leatherhead and Bishop) or from characters that have recently been introduced (Ch'rell) and even ongoing storylines that have a lot time before completion I'm sure (Pantheon).

Don't forget Null and Maligna! There could easily be another 50 issues revolving around those two.

[daggio]

Don't forget Null and Maligna! There could easily be another 50 issues revolving around those two.

:lol::lol:Forgot completely about those two. With those two still waiting in the wings, so to speak, maybe that means another trip to Dimension X! I know it hasn't been stated that Null is from Dimension X but her talk during the Mutanimals miniseries lends me to believe that she is.

[CyberCubed]

IDW TMNT essentially IS the reboot, what would another reboot accomplish? Besides that they've made comics based on the cartoons like Nick 2012 and Rise so far, I'm not sure what else a reboot would accomplish throwing away everything since 2011.

[Toxin45]

IDW TMNT essentially IS the reboot, what would another reboot accomplish? Besides that they've made comics based on the cartoons like Nick 2012 and Rise so far, I'm not sure what else a reboot would accomplish throwing away everything since 2011.

Okay I get I just wish TMNT comics will still continue

[ChosenOne]

IDW TMNT essentially IS the reboot, what would another reboot accomplish? Besides that they've made comics based on the cartoons like Nick 2012 and Rise so far, I'm not sure what else a reboot would accomplish throwing away everything since 2011.

This. IDW TMNT already is an Ultimate TMNT of sorts, and besides, it's just now getting to the really good stuff, to that very special point in storytelling and continuity that takes any given series years to grow into. No reason to throw it all away so soon and go back to the start. Again.

[ProphetofGanja]

No reason to throw it all away so soon and go back to the start. Again.

Exactly, leave that to the movie franchises :lol:

[slashpieturtlemix]

Learning to make comics in college, we always learned that reboot was an attempt to save a failing series.

If the TMNT idw comics get rebooted, it means the series is failing to make money.

[CyberCubed]

IDW won't do a reboot unless Tom Waltz/Bobby decide to make a conclusive end to the series and a new creative team come on board for a fresh start. But I wouldn't imagine something like that till maybe post issue 150.

[daggio]

Maybe (big maybe), instead of a reboot, the series at some point will go in the direction similar to what happened over on IDW's Transformers in that a big event occurs and afterwards there are two separate ongoing series' happening (and yeah, I remember TMNT Universe, but I mean two separate and equal ongoings with little interaction but shared memories of past events kind of thing). I know that's hoping for the moon, but hey this TMNT series has the characters and storytelling prowess to make that kind of thing happen.:D

[pferreira]

IDW TMNT essentially IS the reboot, what would another reboot accomplish? Besides that they've made comics based on the cartoons like Nick 2012 and Rise so far, I'm not sure what else a reboot would accomplish throwing away everything since 2011.That's what Sonic fans said about Archie... :(

[neatoman]

I guess a reboot will happen eventually. I just don't see it happening for a few more years though.

[CyberCubed]

Probably won't happen till the far future if/when IDW loses the TMNT license and whatever new comic company picks it up and wants to do their own fresh take and universe.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Maybe (big maybe), instead of a reboot, the series at some point will go in the direction similar to what happened over on IDW's Transformers in that a big event occurs and afterwards there are two separate ongoing series' happening (and yeah, I remember TMNT Universe, but I mean two separate and equal ongoings with little interaction but shared memories of past events kind of thing). I know that's hoping for the moon, but hey this TMNT series has the characters and storytelling prowess to make that kind of thing happen.:D

You mean like when the Archie comics stopped adapting Fred Wolf cartoon episodes, and created its own stories and universe?

[daggio]

You mean like when the Archie comics stopped adapting Fred Wolf cartoon episodes, and created its own stories and universe?

Having two separate timelines with separate stories going on actually to me seems like an intriguing idea, but I was thinking more like a splitting of the primary characters, with one set of said characters having separate story arcs from each other, thus having two equally important ongoing comics each month. Like I said, I know thats hoping for the moon, but this comic has the storytelling prowess to make that happen.

[Andrew NDB]

My vote: full reboot with Turtles that kill and a non-wisecracking Mikey. Also a complete deemphasis on drawing from the kids stuff.

But I have no vote.

[Toxin45]

My vote: full reboot with Turtles that kill and a non-wisecracking Mikey. Also a complete deemphasis on drawing from the kids stuff.

But I have no vote.
We get it you like mirage but it's way too late for that dude. You already made 2 fan comics. We have death in the idw comics just for teens now mirage isn't what it used to be either you need to move on from this. Kids would still read it anyway and mak Ng the turtles have the same personality is kinda lame dude.

[Leo656]

My vote: full reboot with Turtles that kill and a non-wisecracking Mikey. Also a complete deemphasis on drawing from the kids stuff.

But I have no vote.

I'm all in on this if we can keep colored bandannas. :trazz:

Compromise in the name of the greater good? Or is this your personal "Border Wall"? :lol:

We have fun.

[Toxin45]

I'm all in on this if we can keep colored bandannas. :trazz:

Compromise in the name of the greater good? Or is this your personal "Border Wall"? :lol:

We have fun.

Please don't encourage him.

[Leo656]

I've known him a lot longer than I've known you, hepcat. :tgrin:

This place is a lot more fun when Andrew's properly motivated.

And when it's after 11am Pacific.

Because by then he's drunk.

[Toxin45]

I've known him a lot longer than I've known you, hepcat. :tgrin:

This place is a lot more fun when Andrew's properly motivated.

And when it's after 11am Pacific.

Because by then he's drunk.

I don't drink dude. Also don't risk poisoning

[Igglet]

My vote: full reboot with Turtles that kill and a non-wisecracking Mikey. Also a complete deemphasis on drawing from the kids stuff.

But I have no vote.

You know, I'm not really a Mirage purist or whatever, I far prefer the IDW version but when they inevitably reboot the comics again (which I REALLY hope isn't any time soon) I think I could be on board with this. After the IDW run, they're probably going to have to differentiate themselves a lot from that version if they want to pull off something new and interesting. Creating a new run that feels more like Mirage, but pulls elements from the later versions could be really good. I know it's not what a lot of Mirage fans have in mind but I think it'd probably be the best we could get, far better than going the Rise route with the comics too.

[Toxin45]

You know, I'm not really a Mirage purist or whatever, I far prefer the IDW version but when they inevitably reboot the comics again (which I REALLY hope isn't any time soon) I think I could be on board with this. After the IDW run, they're probably going to have to differentiate themselves a lot from that version if they want to pull off something new and interesting. Creating a new run that feels more like Mirage, but pulls elements from the later versions could be really good. I know it's not what a lot of Mirage fans have in mind but I think it'd probably be the best we could get, far better than going the Rise route with the comics too.

Well it would still be a mix of of all three versions with some of the cartoons and movies added to them. Kids would still read it regardless.

[Igglet]

Well it would still be a mix of of all three versions with some of the cartoons and movies added to them. Kids would still read it regardless.

Sure, as I said, take some elements from all of the versions, that's fine, but make it mostly based on Mirage.That's what I'm suggesting here.

[Toxin45]

Sure, as I said, take some elements from all of the versions, that's fine, but make it mostly based on Mirage.That's what I'm suggesting here.

i think the comics would about pg-13 not rated r because let's be real some kids would read tmnt comics regardless

[Igglet]

i think the comics would about pg-13 not rated r because let's be real some kids would read tmnt comics regardless

True. Well, limitations breed creativity I guess.

[Toxin45]

True. Well, limitations breed creativity I guess.

And besides mirage's violence is more tame compared to later comics in the later years so no one would get the big deal about mirage's violence.

[pferreira]

I'm all in on this if we can keep colored bandannas. Nah we should have all of them wear red bandanas. Either make it full Mirage or not. :D

I've known him a lot longer than I've known you, hepcat. :tgrin:

This place is a lot more fun when Andrew's properly motivated.Drunk motivation? No wonder he always looks angry in his profile pics. :lol:

[AquaParade]

Oh, how I miss those red bandanas.

[Andrew NDB]

Crush the f***ing rainbow!

http://thegreenlanterncorps.com/trd.jpg

[Igglet]

Out of curiosity, what's the deal with the red bandannas? Is there any particular reason why people want them back so much other than that they were a thing back in Mirage? I might be missing something obvious here but I just never got the point.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Crush the f***ing rainbow!

http://thegreenlanterncorps.com/trd.jpg

Preach brotha! Preach!

Out of curiosity, what's the deal with the red bandannas? Is there any particular reason why people want them back so much other than that they were a thing back in Mirage? I might be missing something obvious here but I just never got the point.

Speaking for myself, I've always felt that them sharing the same color bandanna has made them felt like they're part of their own clan, sort of like the foot (hence Leo wearing a black bandanna and armor in IDW, at one point). You could argue the different colored masks represent their individual personalities but wearing the same colored mask felt like a symbol or representation of being blood brothers or brothers at heart (blood and heart both being red). It's sort of like why ninjas in Naruto wore a headband with a specific village symbol on it. If the issue is because the turtles look too similar wearing the same color, you could either tell by the weapons they wear on their belt (unless the artist doesn't bother with that, lol) or give them different physical appearances like the Nick series did.

It's not a necessity but it'd be nice to show some appreciation for the source that gave birth to this property.

[Toxin45]

Nah we should have all of them wear red bandanas. Either make it full Mirage or not. :D

Drunk motivation? No wonder he always looks angry in his profile pics. :lol:

But mirage had it's promblems you didn't read volume 4 Peter laird didn't even finish it dude plus it made April a freaking drawing.

[Kenwatanabesclone]

But mirage had it's promblems you didn't read volume 4 Peter laird didn't even finish it dude plus it made April a freaking drawing.

How old are you? You manage to miss the point of almost every post/comment you respond to.

[Toxin45]

How old are you? You manage to miss the point of almost every post/comment you respond to.

I was born I October 4, 1995 and Yeah yeah I know but still how would TMNT reboot mirage?

[Igglet]

Preach brotha! Preach!



Speaking for myself, I've always felt that them sharing the same color bandanna has made them felt like they're part of their own clan, sort of like the foot (hence Leo wearing a black bandanna and armor in IDW, at one point). You could argue the different colored masks represent their individual personalities but wearing the same colored mask felt like a symbol or representation of being blood brothers or brothers at heart (blood and heart both being red). It's sort of like why ninjas in Naruto wore a headband with a specific village symbol on it. If the issue is because the turtles look too similar wearing the same color, you could either tell by the weapons they wear on their belt (unless the artist doesn't bother with that, lol) or give them different physical appearances like the Nick series did.

It's not a necessity but it'd be nice to show some appreciation for the source that gave birth to this property.

That's fair. In reality, I'm not really a good judge as I was introduced to the franchise with the cartoons and I have a sort of bias, but I think that goes for some Mirage readers as well, just the other way around.

Sometimes, the Turtles' weapons can't really be seen, Hell, sometimes they might not even be carrying them. The bandannas make it way easier to differentiate it. Sure, I COULD be able to tell who's who most of the time, but sometimes, when I look at a panel, I want to immediately know whose voice I should be reading the text in, if you get what I'm trying to say. It's just a lot more convenient and, while I do get the brothers shtick, I think the convenience is just more important to me personally. And besides, call me crazy but I really like the bandannas being different colored aesthetically as well.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

That's fair. In reality, I'm not really a good judge as I was introduced to the franchise with the cartoons and I have a sort of bias, but I think that goes for some Mirage readers as well, just the other way around.

Sometimes, the Turtles' weapons can't really be seen, Hell, sometimes they might not even be carrying them. The bandannas make it way easier to differentiate it. Sure, I COULD be able to tell who's who most of the time, but sometimes, when I look at a panel, I want to immediately know whose voice I should be reading the text in, if you get what I'm trying to say. It's just a lot more convenient and, while I do get the brothers shtick, I think the convenience is just more important to me personally. And besides, call me crazy but I really like the bandannas being different colored aesthetically as well.

I can take or leave the different colored bandannas but it would be nice to see the original red ones make a return in another version, some day. Likely one aimed at older audiences.

[Redeemer]

I can take or leave the different colored bandannas but it would be nice to see the original red ones make a return in another version, some day. Likely one aimed at older audiences.

It would be awesome if they would use them on missions and then used the colorized ones when they are being social with others like April, Mutanimals ect.....

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Learning to make comics in college, we always learned that reboot was an attempt to save a failing series.

Giving a dead franchise new life after some years is the first I think of.

[Leo656]

Isn't the whole "ninja clans with identifiable colors/logos" thing a myth, anyway? Something someone made up for movies and TV, kinda like the generic "black pajama ninjas" themselves? I swear I heard that somewhere more than once.

If it's not actually a real thing, then "Red bandannas make them more like a ninja clan" is, essentially, just something someone made up to reinforce their personal preference.

I don't know for certain, but that's what I suspect to be the truth. People over-thinking things to reinforce what they like best. Truthfully, there's zero logic in the masks anyway, no matter what color they are. Think about it, if anyone ever got close to them in a fight, they could choke 'em with it, yank it sideways so it covers their eyes and they can't see... just wearing them at all puts them at a tactical disadvantage. They're only there because "It looks cool".

I wish people could be honest and just say, "I don't need a reason, I just like it this way better." Applying logic to things where logic has no place to begin with is... questionable. We shouldn't be debating Colored Bandannas vs. Red Bandannas; we should be asking why something that makes zero sense at all has persisted this long to begin with.

I mean, I'm glad they wear the masks (I prefer colors myself), but it's objectively a dumb thing to have no matter what color they are. It's just a look.

[bgb1018]

I can take or leave the different colored bandannas but it would be nice to see the original red ones make a return in another version, some day. Likely one aimed at older audiences.

I feel the same way, I would love to see the red ones make a comeback in some way for a more extended period. Maybe not on a permanent basis seeing as I do enjoy the colored bandanas a lot for obvious reasons. But I would definitely not be opposed to seeing them have their place in a major story arc for awhile.

It would be awesome if they would use them on missions and then used the colorized ones when they are being social with others like April, Mutanimals ect.....

This is an interesting idea but what would be the point of them changing so much? I think it would be better to either stick with the colored bandanas or the red bandanas at all times.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I don't know for certain, but that's what I suspect to be the truth. People over-thinking things to reinforce what they like best. Truthfully, there's zero logic in the masks anyway, no matter what color they are. Think about it, if anyone ever got close to them in a fight, they could choke 'em with it, yank it sideways so it covers their eyes and they can't see... just wearing them at all puts them at a tactical disadvantage. They're only there because "It looks cool".

I mean, I'm glad they wear the masks (I prefer colors myself), but it's objectively a dumb thing to have no matter what color they are. It's just a look.

That and the fact, of course, that the masks don't hide their identities at all. They're giant fvcking anthropomorphic turtles. The police sketch artist won't have much trouble getting a witness to recognize them. :tlol:

[bgb1018]

I think if the series was to ever be rebooted again, I'd be fine with a more Mirage based grittier version or another IDW version that has a healthy medium that has something for everyone.

But I think I'd also be really interested in seeing another version similar to the Image run of comics. Its so drastically different, and honestly, more suited for an 'adult oriented' run like so many want that it wouldnt be the worst idea to attempt again. Especially if they were to keep the Rise of the TMNT books going as a series garnered towards younger generations. Everyone would be included in tmnt universe, and we'd get to see how well a more adult tmnt would do in this day and age.

If it didn't do well, it would be easy to reboot and do something that works better like the IDW series again.

[AquaParade]

I'd love to see two concurrent series that cater to slightly different crowds.
Sort of like Marvel has done with Spider-Man, fairly successfully.

The main series pleases so many fans, and it's a great universe their building. I'd like to have another series aimed at a readership more akin to Mirage.

Easier said than done.

[bgb1018]

I'd love to see two concurrent series that cater to slightly different crowds.
Sort of like Marvel has done with Spider-Man, fairly successfully.

The main series pleases so many fans, and it's a great universe their building. I'd like to have another series aimed at a readership more akin to Mirage.

Easier said than done.

I feel like I've seen this happening with a lot of titles lately. I mean, TMNT already has the main IDW series as well as the Amazing Adventures run (I'm fairly certain I've seen Rise book as well) so its not an impossible idea to try and run with. Making a series more directly resonating with the Mirage run would be very interesting and I honestly feel it would do well.

[CyberCubed]

As I said before, I wouldn't expect another comic universe reboot until IDW loses the license in the far future and they give it to another comic publisher like say Dark Horse to do their own universe with. Like after the IDW run ends and Nick teams up with a new comic book publisher, of course we're likely to get another reboot.

But as long as IDW maintains the license they have no reason to do one. And as said we already have secondary comics based on the cartoons from them so I don't think they want to do more than that.

[AquaParade]

I feel like I've seen this happening with a lot of titles lately. I mean, TMNT already has the main IDW series as well as the Amazing Adventures run (I'm fairly certain I've seen Rise book as well) so its not an impossible idea to try and run with. Making a series more directly resonating with the Mirage run would be very interesting and I honestly feel it would do well.

Right.

Maybe if they do some kind of time jump in the main series at some point. They could leave some room for some for the other series to play out.

Concurrently running series is the more likely option, but that could mean a lot of work for Bobby to try and keep everything straight, while satisfying all creators.

[Toxin45]

Right.

Maybe if they do some kind of time jump in the main series at some point. They could leave some room for some for the other series to play out.

Concurrently running series is the more likely option, but that could mean a lot of work for Bobby to try and keep everything straight, while satisfying all creators.

Hopefully that it would have main villains as in big bads and an actual rogues gallery that was the thing mirage comics lacked no offense to mirage fans later versions added their rogues gallery so I guess if they want it to resemble mirage they now must update their villains in major roles and actually have big bads from now on. Archie and idw did expand on the villains and they do have a lot of big bads maybe if the what tmnt reboot resembled mirage tmnt it would now have expanded the rogues gallery and having actually overarchaing villains since newer fans would be confused as heck that is what I see with the reboot.

[pferreira]

Crush the f***ing rainbow! Yeah you tell'em. :lol:

I might be missing something obvious here but I just never got the point.I associate the original TMNT with them.

But mirage had it's promblems you didn't read volume 4 Peter laird didn't even finish it dude plus it made April a freaking drawing.For me Mirage TMNT is the starting point for the franchise and it's what everything is built on so I go with that. ;)

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

The turtles don't need to walk around with the ambition of killing people just for fun, but if you play around with those weapons and fight on rooftops, people will get killed sooner or later.

[Leo656]

Christ, that's how us kids used to party back then in the 80s. We always figured, "Screw it, the kid who can't do a pull-up doesn't get to have kids of his own." Nobody sued, they just moved. But that's the way it was... and we LIKED it! :tgrin:

Then everybody got sensitive. Sure, people are living longer, but at what price?!