The TMNT versus the other TMNT who would you love to see in a match?

[The Great Saiyaman]

In both "Turtles forever" and "Trans dimensional Turtles" of the 2012 series it was established that all versions of TMNT are different dimensions. Which can converge and HAVE converged on occasions.

Now suppose you would have a tournament in which all versions of the TMNT would face each other. what kind of Matches would you like to see happen?

Here's my pick:

- Fred Wolf Leonardo versus Saban "Next mutation" Leonardo
Two very similar Leo's but I guess that the Saban Leo would have the upper hand since he's not afraid of actually hitting his opponent.

- 2012 Raphael Versus Rise Raphael
Two very different versions of Raph, I'm pretty sure Rise Raph would use his taller length as a way to get leverage over Nick Raph but the latter is no push over either, Nick Raph makes up in intensity what he lacks in actual physical prowess.

- Mirage Michelangelo versus 2012 Michelangelo
Okay, first of all, I'm pretty sure that when you get all the Turtles from every version together, the first thing all the Michelangelos will do is hold a big party and bro down with each other.
So why the Mirage Mikey and the Nick Mikey? Well the Mirage Mikey is by far the darkest and most violent of all versions of Michelangelo. But the Nick Mikey is extremely unpredictable and in addition to his nunchucks is also a master at kusarigama. So the stakes are even. Regardless who wins I'm pretty sure they would congratulate the other and offer Pizza.

- Mirage Donatello versus IDW Donatello
Both these versions of Donnie have looked death in the eye and the IDW Donnie has the metal shell as a permanent reminder of that intimate encounter with Rocksteady's sledge hammer. They also are by far the quietest versions of Donatello, their match would be interesting and dark.

That's all I can think of so far. I'll add more later.

[Tarris Vaal]

Are we including the 2003 Dark turtles in this line up? Or IDWs deviation turtles?

I would love to see the other turtles reactions to their Platinum dune appearances. The only I can see taking that shock in their stride would be Rise Raph (who should be at least a similar size/bulk)



Personally I think it'd be more interesting to see some of the villains meeting their counterparts - particularly following the 2012 crossover. I'd love to see IDW Shredder, 2012 Shredder and Ch'rell battling it out for example.

[The Great Saiyaman]

Sure, include every one you want.

I did a comic in which the IDW Karai meets her 2012 counterpart because I loved the sheer concept of the two of them meeting since they differ so much from the other.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Well the Mirage Mikey is by far the darkest and most violent of all versions of Michelangelo.

I think all versions of the turtles can be very violent when needed (at least offscreen). Some are just prevented by censors.

[IndigoErth]

I would love to see the other turtles reactions to their Platinum dune appearances.
Was thinking the same. Especially putting the 'softer' versions of Raph, like '87 and similar, in front of PD Raph. He/they might be speechless. :tlol:

The rest of the sets are similar enough in personality that they'd probably get along well enough after getting over the initial surprised of how big the PD guys are. The other Leos and Donnies may no doubt figure out how to make it a benefit if they have to team up with their other selves.

Though I'd love to see most versions of Leo, esp the more serious ones, have to put up with their 'Rise' counterpart tagging along. His antics would get old to most of them so fast. :lol:

[Autbot_Benz]

All the Good Versions of the Turtles ( Fred Wolf 90's 2k3 2012 ) vs the terrible versions (PD Next Mutation and Rise)

[The Great Saiyaman]

Was thinking the same. Especially putting the 'softer' versions of Raph, like '87 and similar, in front of PD Raph. He/they might be speechless. :tlol:

The rest of the sets are similar enough in personality that they'd probably get along well enough after getting over the initial surprised of how big the PD guys are. The other Leos and Donnies may no doubt figure out how to make it a benefit if they have to team up with their other selves.

Though I'd love to see most versions of Leo, esp the more serious ones, have to put up with their 'Rise' counterpart tagging along. His antics would get old to most of them so fast. :lol:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/a/a9/Trans_dimensional_turtles_by_lullabystars-d9uplb8.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160318004850
"TURTLE POWER!"
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/b/bb/TMNT-2012-Leonardo-584.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20161209053639
"Ah..err..sorry?"

Judging how 2012 Leo cut the 87 Leo off so fast when the latter was constantly shouting "Turtle power!" (Which is actually calling the kettle black since 2012 Leo in the first two seasons had similar corny introductions during a fight. And later actually said it himself.) I can imagine the other Leo's and the Mirage Leo in particular, probably stuffing the Rise Leo's laser sword deep inside his shell just to shut him up.

I guess 87 Leo would probably do the honors here.

[The Great Saiyaman]

How about...

- 87 Slash versus IDW Pigeon Pete
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNjI0MjMzNzg2OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTM3MDgzMjE@._ V1_.jpg
https://tortueman.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/pigeon-pete-comic-idw-tortues-ninja-turtles-tmnt_2.jpg
It takes a LOT to make Bebop and Rocksteady look smart but these two achieve that hands down. But they both aren't to be underestimated.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

How about...

- 87 Slash versus IDW Pigeon Pete
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNjI0MjMzNzg2OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTM3MDgzMjE@._ V1_.jpg
https://tortueman.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/pigeon-pete-comic-idw-tortues-ninja-turtles-tmnt_2.jpg
It takes a LOT to make Bebop and Rocksteady look smart but these two achieve that hands down. But they both aren't to be underestimated.

I think 1987 Slash easily wins if he has the boosted intellect from his season 6 episode.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I think 1987 Slash easily wins if he has the boosted intellect from his season 6 episode.

He would have great potential if that was his real personality. He could do so much more than turning Humans into turtles.

[The Great Saiyaman]

How about 87 Leatherhead versus 2012 Leatherhead.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/4/45/Leatherhead_kitbash_cartoon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110123201945

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt2012series/images/8/85/Leatherhead_Lrg.png/revision/latest?cb=20150308220119
I'm pretty sure this will be a VICIOUS fight but for sheer intensity, the 2012 Leatherhead would have a big advantage. I mean the guy did a death roll taking out several Kraang droids.

But don't count Cajun Croc out just yet, he's more cunning.

[pferreira]

I always wanted to see the FW Turtles versus the 90s movie TMNT.

But don't count Cajun Croc out just yet, he's more cunning."I guarantee". :lol:

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I always wanted to see the FW Turtles versus the 90s movie TMNT.

Without any stupid self-sensors.

[newfan]

Personally I think it'd be more interesting to see some of the villains meeting their counterparts - particularly following the 2012 crossover. I'd love to see IDW Shredder, 2012 Shredder and Ch'rell battling it out for example.

Yep, I'll go with the Shredders too.

[pferreira]

Without any stupid self-sensors.Yes without Mikey's weapons being removed in bad cuts. :lol:

[The Great Saiyaman]

How about all of Raphael's girlfriends facing each other?
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/3a800dff-c45a-403e-ab96-a09943a9ae89/da5lbou-db0a604e-2bbd-4b13-bbde-5967392603ab.jpg/v1/fill/w_300,h_350,q_70,strp/harem_of_girlfriends_by_winterheath_da5lbou-350t.jpg
Clockwise: Mezcaal, Ninjara, Y'Gythba, Mona Lisa and Alopex.

Whoa, now that would be a brutal match...

[Vintage]

I can't say much because I grew up watching the original cartoons only. So any of the other remakes verse my originals i'd like to see. But my question if anyone can really answer who grew up like me on the original animation is if I really did miss anything worth watching when it comes to all the cartoon remakes ??? Please only a person who grew up on the original answer that as I think that we can be biased on whatever one we saw first.

[The Great Saiyaman]

I can't say much because I grew up watching the original cartoons only. So any of the other remakes verse my originals i'd like to see. But my question if anyone can really answer who grew up like me on the original animation is if I really did miss anything worth watching when it comes to all the cartoon remakes ??? Please only a person who grew up on the original answer that as I think that we can be biased on whatever one we saw first.

If the original 1987 toons are all that you're familiar with you ought to check out the 2012 Nicktoon series. Since that one, story wise is the most similar to the 1987 series. But rather than start with the first episode, you should start with one of the last ones.

"Lone rat and Cubs"
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Hamato Yoshi moves to New York, buys some Turtles in a pet shop and gets mutated, much like it was in the original cartoon. In "Lone rat and cubs" we see Splinter trying to find a safe haven for him and his four baby turtles.

The episode was written by Turtles co-creator Kevin Eastman, which makes it a must watch for any Turtles aficionado.

[pferreira]

If the original 1987 toons are all that you're familiar with you ought to check out the 2012 Nicktoon series. Since that one, story wise is the most similar to the 1987 series. But rather than start with the first episode, you should start with one of the last ones.If only I could get past the CG animation. But thanks for that info. :)

[The Great Saiyaman]

If only I could get past the CG animation. But thanks for that info. :)

Trust me, the stories will make you forget about the CGI completely. Another "Must watch" episode is "the Gauntlet" since it has the very first showdown of the Turtles against Shredder.

[Vintage]

Trust me, the stories will make you forget about the CGI completely. Another "Must watch" episode is "the Gauntlet" since it has the very first showdown of the Turtles against Shredder.



I completely agree. If a story is good it could be a black and white cartoon, it could be with stick figures, it will still be good. This might be blasphemy but I could never through to the end of the movie the matrix cause of the story line, I don't care how much special effects it had.

I will take your advice about watching that particular series since it is most like my TMNT I grew up to watch and love. I did not view your video yet. I want to rewatch first the whole 1987 series. Funny though I believe in what you say that most of the series is very similar to the original 1987 series , and yet it was one of the last episodes where they show I guess a flashback of what happened in the beginning after the mutation.

[The Great Saiyaman]

I completely agree. If a story is good it could be a black and white cartoon, it could be with stick figures, it will still be good. This might be blasphemy but I could never through to the end of the movie the matrix cause of the story line, I don't care how much special effects it had.

I will take your advice about watching that particular series since it is most like my TMNT I grew up to watch and love. I did not view your video yet. I want to rewatch first the whole 1987 series. Funny though I believe in what you say that most of the series is very similar to the original 1987 series , and yet it was one of the last episodes where they show I guess a flashback of what happened in the beginning after the mutation.

It is basically a first person account of Splinter where he tells the Turtles (Little kids in this episode) how they came to be.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/3325303faf98ffdc0d8ff59edb3be810/tumblr_inline_oun7mirbe11u81y09_540.png

But yes, the story lines of the two series are very similar, you'll find a lot where you will go "Yeah, I'm familiar with that."
- Hamato Yoshi is Splinter
- The Turtles themselves behave like the ones from the 1987 cartoon, aside from (see the next paragraph)
- Baxter Stockman is an inept, bumbling but still dangerous mechanical genius.
- Leonardo loses his heart to a female ninja of the Foot Clan
- Channel six still is the local most watched news broadcasting network
- Iconic eighties series characters like Mona Lisa, Mondo Gecko, Leatherhead, the Punk Frogs and Bebop and Rocksteady will appear.

But there's also a lot which has changed, I won't give away too much but these are the most notable.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/b0/37/d3b037213a3c83bbf8b9d36d33d734ea.jpg
- Although the Turtles are still pretty much the Turtles from the old cartoon series, they all were given a very distinct look from the others. But the biggest change is that they actually behave as TEENAGERS, they make rash decisions, never think things through and put peer pressure on each other. It is offset by the fact that they fight like actual Ninjas, the crew behind this version TMNT has done a lot of research into how the fighting techniques work, it's actually what makes the series so good.
- April, Irma and Casey Jones are teenagers.
- Kraang is the head of a hive mind alien invasion of Utroms who call themselves The Kraang.
- Shredder still is the head of the Foot Clan but the clan itself is run like a criminal enterprise which has several legit businesses, such as Martial arts schools through which Foot Soldiers are recruited.

[Vintage]

It is basically a first person account of Splinter where he tells the Turtles (Little kids in this episode) how they came to be.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/3325303faf98ffdc0d8ff59edb3be810/tumblr_inline_oun7mirbe11u81y09_540.png

But yes, the story lines of the two series are very similar, you'll find a lot where you will go "Yeah, I'm familiar with that."
- Hamato Yoshi is Splinter
- The Turtles themselves behave like the ones from the 1987 cartoon, aside from (see the next paragraph)
- Baxter Stockman is an inept, bumbling but still dangerous mechanical genius.
- Leonardo loses his heart to a female ninja of the Foot Clan
- Channel six still is the local most watched news broadcasting network
- Iconic eighties series characters like Mona Lisa, Mondo Gecko, Leatherhead, the Punk Frogs and Bebop and Rocksteady will appear.

But there's also a lot which has changed, I won't give away too much but these are the most notable.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/b0/37/d3b037213a3c83bbf8b9d36d33d734ea.jpg
- Although the Turtles are still pretty much the Turtles from the old cartoon series, they all were given a very distinct look from the others. But the biggest change is that they actually behave as TEENAGERS, they make rash decisions, never think things through and put peer pressure on each other. It is offset by the fact that they fight like actual Ninjas, the crew behind this version TMNT has done a lot of research into how the fighting techniques work, it's actually what makes the series so good.
- April, Irma and Casey Jones are teenagers.
- Kraang is the head of a hive mind alien invasion of Utroms who call themselves The Kraang.
- Shredder still is the head of the Foot Clan but the clan itself is run like a criminal enterprise which has several legit businesses, such as Martial arts schools through which Foot Soldiers are recruited.


Wow. You definitely put some time into this. I appreciate it a whole lot. Sounds like a great series. Now I'm definitely going to watch it. You really know your stuff. Even knowing that channel 6 is still the most watched, you must be some TMNT master. Thank you thank you thank you.

[The Great Saiyaman]

Wow. You definitely put some time into this. I appreciate it a whole lot. Sounds like a great series. Now I'm definitely going to watch it. You really know your stuff. Even knowing that channel 6 is still the most watched, you must be some TMNT master. Thank you thank you thank you.

Yeah, I have a lot of time on my hands. 8)

[pferreira]

Trust me, the stories will make you forget about the CGI completely. Another "Must watch" episode is "the Gauntlet" since it has the very first showdown of the Turtles against Shredder.I know, I know. I need to get around to it.

I want to rewatch first the whole 1987 series. Funny though I believe in what you say that most of the series is very similar to the original 1987 series , and yet it was one of the last episodes where they show I guess a flashback of what happened in the beginning after the mutation.It's hugely enjoyable. If you can handle the 2D animation and the lack of continuity it's real fun. :)

[Vintage]

I know, I know. I need to get around to it.

It's hugely enjoyable. If you can handle the 2D animation and the lack of continuity it's real fun. :)

What you mean by lack of continuity? Jumps around from place to place?

[The Great Saiyaman]

What you mean by lack of continuity? Jumps around from place to place?

Perhaps he's talking about a different series, since the 2012 series' story line is one continuous story, there are very few episodes which you can watch on on their own without them having spoilers of what came before of what comes afterward.

I named "Lone rat and cubs" as something you should watch before you watch the series in full because of it being a prequel. Which also makes it the only episode which you can watch without it spoiling too much about the rest of the series.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/c0e8f8f0219d7d0ed13a9c2af6c59723/tumblr_inline_oun69iCld01u81y09_500.png
Leonardo, Donatello (On top) Michelangelo and Raphael as infants just after they mutated.

[pferreira]

What you mean by lack of continuity? Jumps around from place to place?The 80s series is episodic, it's not serialised like 90% TV today. While it does have some story arcs they don't dominate the series much. But it's still enjoyable to watch. :)

[The Great Saiyaman]

The 80s series is episodic, it's not serialised like 90% TV today. While it does have some story arcs they don't dominate the series much. But it's still enjoyable to watch. :)

I almost forgot, there are several instances where the eighties Turtles turn up in the 2012 series. All of those appearances have them voiced by the original voice cast.
http://ultraimg.com/images/104693.jpg
2012 Raphael and 87 Raphael.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/8f/9c/da8f9cc3b88b42c7a29d518d939211b7.jpg
Both Michelangelos, who instantly get along.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/b/bb/TMNT-2012-Leonardo-584.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20161209053639
2012 Leonardo getting fed up with his counterpart's constant yelling of "Turtle power" but later in the episode he actually yells it himself.

[pferreira]

I almost forgot, there are several instances where the eighties Turtles turn up in the 2012 series. All of those appearances have them voiced by the original voice cast.Yep, correct! :)

[The Great Saiyaman]

Time to get this thread back to its original topic.

Let's have Mei Peih Chi (AKA Venus De Milo) of "The next Mutation" face off against Jennika of the IDW series.
https://i.imgflip.com/2bk1ci.jpg
https://boundingintocomics.com/files/2019/07/2019.07.17-05.57-boundingintocomics-5d2f61a27ad88.png

This would be an interesting match for sure.