Terms of Sony's Spider-Man license circa 2011 leaked.

[neatoman]

Not really that interesting for 70 pages. It's mostly reiterating a few restrictions on Peter Parker and a list of characters that can or can't be used. In summary:


Peter Parker has to be heterosexual and white.
He has to get his powers during his education, as early as middle school or as late as college.
He can't smoke, use unjustified lethal force or swear too harshly unless under the symbiote's influence.
He can't under any circumstance have sex before age 16 or sex with anyone below the age of 16.
If these rules are deviated from he can't be called Peter Parker.
A movie need to have a budget of at least 75 million dollars.
It has to be PG-13.
A televison series can either be animated or live-action but each episode has to be at least 44 minutes long. (I assume Marvel/Disney has the rights to 22 minute episodes since they've produced two Spider-Man cartoons without the involvement of Sony)


https://wikileaks.org/sony/docs/07/junderwood/1%20Corp%20Dev/Spiderman/Executive%20Summary%20of%20All%20Deal%20Points/Executive%20Summary%20%28Creative%29.pdf

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Are there any similair TMNT-related rules online?

[neatoman]

Are there any similair TMNT-related rules online?

We know IDW has a list of characters they're allowed to use but we don't actually know of any rules beyond "don't have the turtles commit murder".

[CyberCubed]

Few interesting things here:


Peter Parker has to be heterosexual and white.

This made me laugh harder than it should of, if only because Miles Morales exists. And of course a gay Peter Parker wouldn't fly for mainstream audiences.

He can't under circumstance have sex before age 16 or sex with anyone below the age of 16.

I wonder why they list 16 instead of 18. Sure 16 year olds can legally have sex in some places but you'd think they wouldn't want that happening till he's at least 18 just to be on the safe side. I mean I doubt we'll ever get a sex scene in a Spiderman movie anyway, but it's weird they specifically mention 16.

If these rules are deviated from he can't be called Peter Parker.

Well...among all the other changes this Peter Parker has from the norm, like being Iron man's apprentice?

[ZariusTwo]

Not really that interesting for 70 pages. It's mostly reiterating a few restrictions on Peter Parker and a list of characters that can or can't be used. In summary:


Peter Parker has to be heterosexual and white.
He has to get his powers during his education, as early as middle school or as late as college.
He can't smoke, commit unjustified lethal force or swear too harshly unless under the symbiote's influence.
He can't under circumstance have sex before age 16 or sex with anyone below the age of 16.
If these rules are deviated from he can't be called Peter Parker.
A movie need to have a budget of at least 75 million dollars.
It has to be PG-13.
A televison series can either be animated or live-action but each episode has to be at least 44 minutes long. (I assume Marvel/Disney has the rights to 22 minute episodes since they've produced two Spider-Man cartoons without the involvement of Sony)


https://wikileaks.org/sony/docs/07/junderwood/1%20Corp%20Dev/Spiderman/Executive%20Summary%20of%20All%20Deal%20Points/Executive%20Summary%20%28Creative%29.pdf

This answers a few questions actually, specifically about Spectacular Spider-Man and why Greg was so certain he could spin the series off into direct-to-DVD episodes.

[Candy Kappa]

Bisexual Parker erasure :lol:

[neatoman]

While I wasn't exactly surprised by the "Straight white male only" part, I do find it interesting how it's basically just surface details that are listed. There's nothing about his core beliefs, life goals, personality type or character flaws. In fact, the only actual character traits mentioned are in regards to what he shouldn't be like, a serious criminal who commits his crimes with little justification.

It does mention that his powers come from a spider bite and that he was raised by his aunt and uncle, which aren't really character traits but rather elements of a backstory. Which is really what I find the most bizarre about these terms, as well as a little unsettling as a Spider-Man fan.

Appearently, what Marvel excecs think is the core essence of Spider-Man is... Well a backstory, a set of powers and some recognisable costumes...
Does he have to be an aspiring chemist? Nope.
Does he have to have an interest in photography? Not really.
Does he have to suffer from arrogance and guilt? Nah.
Does he have to overcome his social awkwardness? Nuh-uh.
Does he have to believe the powerful have to act responsibly? What?

I know Spider-Man and the rest of Marvel's characters have to have a lot of room for interpetation, given that they're designed to star in neverending series'. It just seems a bit too odd to only demand the surface level adherence.

[Leo656]

And yet, if you look closely, you'll realize that they definitely have plans for "Middle School Spider-Man" at some point in the future when they run out of all other ideas. :roll:

It's also Amazing (if not quite "Spectacular" :trazz:) that "He can't be a pedo" actually needed its own Rule, on paper. :lol:

Great googly-moogly, these people.

[AquaParade]

Fascinating, but I was hoping to read more about the stipulations regarding Spider-Man’s use in the MCU.

Based on context, I have a belief that there is a def set amount of time he is allowed to appear on-screen, but I’d like to see it confirmed.

Obviously, I could be wrong, but that belief is based on Kevin Feige stating, pre-release, that Spider-Man would appear in Infinity War for essentially the same amount of time that he was featured in Civil War.

Now I’m assuming that’s because they have a set limit and try to capitalize on that as much as possible. It would also give me a hint as to whether I can expect to see a good chunk of Spidey in Endgame. I know, it’s a safe bet I will, but I have illogical anxieties to calm.

Anyways, thanks for sharing. Fun read. Definitely would like to hear more about the MCU side though.

[Leo656]

Yeah, that's what I assumed it was when I clicked on it. But this is also pretty interesting, in its own way.

[neatoman]

I made sure to put "Circa 2011" in title, just to avoid this sort of confusion. Seems like it didn't work.

[Krutch]

Fascinating, but I was hoping to read more about the stipulations regarding Spider-Man’s use in the MCU.

Based on context, I have a belief that there is a def set amount of time he is allowed to appear on-screen, but I’d like to see it confirmed.

Obviously, I could be wrong, but that belief is based on Kevin Feige stating, pre-release, that Spider-Man would appear in Infinity War for essentially the same amount of time that he was featured in Civil War.

Now I’m assuming that’s because they have a set limit and try to capitalize on that as much as possible. It would also give me a hint as to whether I can expect to see a good chunk of Spidey in Endgame. I know, it’s a safe bet I will, but I have illogical anxieties to calm.

Anyways, thanks for sharing. Fun read. Definitely would like to hear more about the MCU side though.I know this isn't the exact answer to your question but from my understanding Tom Holland is under contract for 6 appearances as Spider-Man, 5 of which must be within the MCU. Meaning they have the option to have Tom Holland appear in a Venom sequel if they so choose. Kind of a clever play on Sony's part, to be honest.

[neatoman]

I wonder how much of this has changed, this version of the contract states that Peter Parker has to have been raised by Uncle Ben but the writers of No Way Home implied there was no Uncle Ben in the MCU. Then again, that isn't really confirmation and the movie itself never outright says he didn't exist in the MCU. Though him being rejected from MIT is still in line, as the contract also states that he must attend college in New York, not Massachusetts.

[AquaParade]

I want to see Peter smoking, due to the negative influence of the symbiote. That's the only thing that could top the SM-3 dance scene.

[neatoman]

I want to see Peter smoking, due to the negative influence of the symbiote. That's the only thing that could top the SM-3 dance scene.

"Time for a smoke, Peter"
"No, Uncle Ben always said it was a bad habit!"
"Eh, **** that dead mother****er! Don't be such a pussy, you bitch!"

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder how much of this has changed, this version of the contract states that Peter Parker has to have been raised by Uncle Ben but the writers of No Way Home implied there was no Uncle Ben in the MCU.

We already know there was an Uncle Ben in the MCU. He just wasn't a very transformative figure for Peter. Apparently he just left or died of natural causes.

[neatoman]

We already know there was an Uncle Ben in the MCU. He just wasn't a very transformative figure for Peter. Apparently he just left or died of natural causes.

Outside of What If, which was merely a variant of MCU Peter, I can't remember MCU Peter or anyone else directly mention him.

[Jester]

Peter uses his suitcase for his trip to Europe in Far From Home.