IDW and DC Conclude Batman/TMNT Crossover Trilogy

[ZariusTwo]

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Writer James Tynion IV and artist Freddie Williams II are reuniting for a third Batman / Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles event series - with TMNT co-creator Kevin Eastman joining in as well.

Scheduled to debut May 1, this six-issue series begins when Krang from Dimension X gets ahold of some of the deadly technology the DCU has to bear.

"The story for volume three is a blast, and I am having the time of my life illustrating it,” said Williams II. "And lucky for me, I’m not alone in this grand task. I’m having a huge and exciting personal crossover of my own with one of my all-time heroes and favorite artists, Kevin Eastman! Say what? Yup, you heard that right! We’ve got something so fun and exciting planned! I’m geeking out about it every day, and I think all of you will, too!"

This comes out as Batman celebrates its 80th anniversary and the Turtles celebrate their 35th - and Nickelodeon and Warner Bros. Animation is partnering for an animated adaptation of the original Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles limited series.

"I still remember the e-mail asking me if I wanted to write the first Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles crossover," said Tynion IV. "My brain couldn’t even process what I was reading for a few seconds, and I started having a panic attack about fitting it into my work schedule. Then, finally, I pictured Michelangelo’s reaction to seeing the T. rex in the Batcave for the first time and started laughing out loud."

Eastman several covers to previous volumes, but for Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III he will also be drawing a portion of the series itself alongside Williams II.

"I’m absolutely thrilled to have Kevin Eastman, co-creator of the TMNT, as our creative partner on the series," continued Tynion IV. "Kevin will be working closely with Freddie, contributing art on part of the run in a really exciting way that I can’t wait for fans to see. We’re going to see Bats and Turtles collide like never before in a story so big, it’s the perfect way to conclude our Batman/TMNT trilogy."

https://www.newsarama.com/43932-batman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-reunite-for-third-title-with-kevin-eastman-joining-in.html

[Toxin45]

Cool we finally get another crossover with Batman and TMNT.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Eh.

The first one started strong and ended with a ridiculous mutagen-infused madhouse of zany action figure variants.

And the second one was just TERRIBLE, beginning to end.

I'm sure the third one will also rub me the wrong way.

[Igglet]

This is absolutely amazing.

[oldmanwinters]

"conclude"

So long as they remain highly profitable (and especially if the movie sells well), I'm sure there will be more crossovers!

[ChosenOne]

After taking on R'as and Bane, I'm sad that the Turtles haven't yet (and apparently won't) gone up against plain ol' Joker. The first crossover sort of teased it in a couple of panels but it was quickly brushed aside.

[Igglet]

After taking on R'as and Bane, I'm sad that the Turtles haven't yet (and apparently won't) gone up against plain ol' Joker. The first crossover sort of teased it in a couple of panels but it was quickly brushed aside.

Who's to say this won't be a Krang - Joker teamup?

[Andrew NDB]

I feel bad for that really good artist.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I feel bad for that really good artist.

Yeah, he's an amazing artist but the story... man. Ugh.

[ChosenOne]

Who's to say this won't be a Krang - Joker teamup?

It still could be, yeah, but then I feel like the announcement would've made a bigger deal out of that. Who knows, though.

[Igglet]

It still could be, yeah, but then I feel like the announcement would've made a bigger deal out of that. Who knows, though.

On a serious note, I think this'll be a Krang - Darkseid teamup. Maybe the rest of the Justice League will pop up too.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

On a serious note, I think this'll be a Krang - Darkseid teamup. Maybe the rest of the Justice League will pop up too.

That's actually not a bad theory.

Except I feel like they'd brand that as "TMNT/Justice League" crossover.

If this is limited to Batman, then I'm pretty sure it's a Batman villain.

[funatic]

Interesting that Eastman's doing some of the art. I wonder if we're hopping into a "Miragey" dimension for some of this.

Honestly would have preferred a followup to Manning and Sommariva's Adventures crossover, writing was so much more solid but I think under-appreciated as being a kids title. Now that 2012 is kaput it probably won't ever happen though. And yeah let's leave Rise out of this... :tlol:

[neatoman]

What the hell is up with the Technodrome on that cover? It looks like it's contorting in some strange way and has two eyes. Did Krang punch the anti-life equation into it's computer or some ****?

[Andrew NDB]

Have they gone to Dimension X yet in these? Probably this is the TMNT and the Bat Family go there story.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Have they gone to Dimension X yet in these? Probably this is the TMNT and the Bat Family go there story.

Based on the cover, that's what it looks like.

Joker's mad enough to team up with IDW's genocidal Krang, so he's my guess for the villain. Or Poison Ivy, maybe. :tlol:

[neatoman]

Have they gone to Dimension X yet in these? Probably this is the TMNT and the Bat Family go there story.

No they haven't. The first one is set in the DCU, the second in pseudo-IDW and the Nick/BTAS one mostly takes place in the Nickverse apart from the final issue in which the Kraang invade the DCAU.

[Igglet]

That's actually not a bad theory.

Except I feel like they'd brand that as "TMNT/Justice League" crossover.

If this is limited to Batman, then I'm pretty sure it's a Batman villain.

I'm thinking this is just going to have the JL pop up in a less major way, maybe in the last issue. I honestly doubt they're going to skip out on an opportunity to have the Turtles meet the League by the end of this, plus it could set up potential future crossovers.

[Powder]

I really hope they're not going to do a "Mirage" portion.

[Igglet]

I really hope they're not going to do a "Mirage" portion.

Why not, out of curiosity? Not necessarily disagreeing, just curious.

[TurtleWA]

I feel bad for that really good artist.

I’m not sure to laugh or cry. Maybe I’ll do one now and one later. TMNT does attract a lot of creative folks, especially on the art side of things.

[CyberCubed]

This is the fourth TMNT/Batman comic crossover now after the two before and the Nick/B:TAS one, I wonder why we're getting so many of them. From what I remember the sales of the last one weren't that spectacular, I think only in the 20,000's or so.

[neatoman]

This is the fourth TMNT/Batman comic crossover now after the two before and the Nick/B:TAS one, I wonder why we're getting so many of them. From what I remember the sales of the last one weren't that spectacular, I think only in the 20,000's or so.

... Because... Three trades look better on the shelf than two... or something?...

[pferreira]

This is the fourth TMNT/Batman comic crossover now after the two before and the Nick/B:TAS one, I wonder why we're getting so many of them. From what I remember the sales of the last one weren't that spectacular, I think only in the 20,000's or so.The animated movie that's being released for DVD/blu-ray?

[Galactus]

Based on the cover, that's what it looks like.

Joker's mad enough to team up with IDW's genocidal Krang, so he's my guess for the villain. Or Poison Ivy, maybe. :tlol:

If it's Krang gaining some DC tech than it's unlikely the Joker is playing a prominent role. He's not exactly a tech based villain.

It's probably going to be some Apokolips tech so the more prominent villain on the DC side of things will be Darkseid.

As pointed out earlier in the thread if that's the case it would be a good excuse to get other DC cameos in. we know that the turtles have at least spoken to some of the Justice League off panel during the first Batman crossover. The possibility they may have had a proper meeting we didn't see pleases me.

[daggio]

When this crossover is done, maybe there will be a third TMNT/Ghostbusters crossover as well.:lol:

[oldmanwinters]

This is the fourth TMNT/Batman comic crossover now after the two before and the Nick/B:TAS one, I wonder why we're getting so many of them. From what I remember the sales of the last one weren't that spectacular, I think only in the 20,000's or so.

It's convenient tie-in timing for the spring/summer release of the movie, so that's probably a factor of "better to try now than later."

[Joey Kamikaze]

When this crossover is done, maybe there will be a third TMNT/Ghostbusters crossover as well.:lol:

We can hope. The Ghostbusters crossovers have been great... and canon.

I enjoyed the first Batman crossover and can more or less fit it into canon, but the second one was just a mess.

[Ninjinister]

James and Freddie bringin' the heat over on Twitter this morning
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https://twitter.com/JamesTheFourth/status/1116732753016438785

[oldmanwinters]

James and Freddie bringin' the heat over on Twitter this morning
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That Batman has Turtle Feet!

I'm really liking the Elseworlds approach to this story. Might as well go all-in with the craziness!

[Ninjinister]

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This is madness. MADNESS.

I'm actually really digging it. :tlol: :tgrin:

[ChosenOne]

What would that combined universe's Leatherhead look like, I wonder?

And where's the Harley Quinn/Karai mash-up?! Or Professor Hugo Stockman, complete with sunglasses that look like fly eyes?! :D

[Andrew NDB]

I'm really liking the Elseworlds approach to this story.

Seems like a good excuse not to bother with a coherent plot. Again.

On the bright side, at least Bane is safe this time.

[ChosenOne]

On the bright side, at least Bane is safe this time.

You'd think so, but just wait until they unveil Bun... :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Seems like a good excuse not to bother with a coherent plot. Again.

On the bright side, at least Bane is safe this time.

True, but on the flip side of the coin, if they're just mashing a bunch of crap up WITHOUT worrying about the story, it could actually work better than when they TRIED to have a story (twice) and it sucked (twice).

[Andrew NDB]

True, but on the flip side of the coin, if they're just mashing a bunch of crap up WITHOUT worrying about the story, it could actually work better than when they TRIED to have a story (twice) and it sucked (twice).

That's a sound point.

You'd think so, but just wait until they unveil Bun... :lol:

Oh god, you're probably right. And this writer seems to love including Bane even though he doesn't know anything about him so...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh god, you're probably right. And this writer seems to love including Bane even though he doesn't know anything about him so...

Ugh, you're right.

Elephant Bane and "RAWR VENOM MAKE ME STRONG" Bane. Why not a third Hun/Bane mashup. :trolleye:

[oldmanwinters]

Seems like a good excuse not to bother with a coherent plot.

True, but on the flip side of the coin, if they're just mashing a bunch of crap up WITHOUT worrying about the story, it could actually work better than when they TRIED to have a story (twice) and it sucked (twice).

Also, very few of the DC Elseworlds tales were reputed for being good "stories," but many of them were still a lot of fun.

[ChosenOne]

Oh god, you're probably right. And this writer seems to love including Bane even though he doesn't know anything about him so...

Ugh, you're right.

Elephant Bane and "RAWR VENOM MAKE ME STRONG" Bane. Why not a third Hun/Bane mashup. :trolleye:

It'll be worth it if they just call his gang the Prisca Dragons. :lol:

[neatoman]

James and Freddie bringin' the heat over on Twitter this morning
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Is Batman meant to resemble the Rat King?
I guess Splinter/Alfred works but it's kind of bizarre.
I get Red Hood Raph, Nightwing Leo and Shredder Joker, but why Bebop and Rocksteady as Killer Croc and Clayface? Has Batman really been around for 80 years without ever having a Rhino themed villain? I know Professor Pyg is a thing.
Please don't tell me April is mashed up with Vicky Vale, I would hate that.

[oldmanwinters]

The Rocksteady/Clayface throws me for a loop. Was Matt Hagen (or whatever) turned into a mutant rhino-man then gained all the shape-shifting powers?

With Croc/Bebop, it's clear he just has a certain fashion sense.

I'm guessing April/Barbara Gordon is the most likely amalgamation, either as a costumed adventurer or Oracle.

[Redeemer]

Is Batman meant to resemble the Rat King?
I guess Splinter/Alfred works but it's kind of bizarre.
I get Red Hood Raph, Nightwing Leo and Shredder Joker, but why Bebop and Rocksteady as Killer Croc and Clayface? Has Batman really been around for 80 years without ever having a Rhino themed villain? I know Professor Pyg is a thing.
Please don't tell me April is mashed up with Vicky Vale, I would hate that.


These are just for fun. I think everyone is taking them too serious... :lol:

[oldmanwinters]

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I'm liking Karai-Harley as a natural mesh. Deadshot looks somewhat uninspired to me.

Freddie W. seemed to confirm on Twitter (https://twitter.com/Freddieart/status/1116794253361860609) that "Red Hood" Donatello is actually supposed to be "Red Robin."

Mikey Robin has a weird thread connecting his cape to his belt buckle, but I like the overall design.

[ChosenOne]

I guess Splinter/Alfred works but it's kind of bizarre.

Definitely looks like something Jay Pritchett would buy for his foyer!

Nailed it on the Harley/Karai mash-up!

I wonder who they'd merge with Casey?

[oldmanwinters]

I wonder who they'd merge with Casey?

Sportsmaster!

[Utrommaniac]

They made Rocksteady Killer Croc when Leatherhead is right there???

[ChosenOne]

Sportsmaster!

I had to Google the guy, he sounds like Taskmaster's less successful cousin.

They made Rocksteady Killer Croc when Leatherhead is right there???

Leatherhead will be merged with Mr. Freeze to form Weatherhead! Big honkin' albino alligator with an ice gun, can you dig it? :D

[Leo656]

...WTF am I looking at? :lol:

I can't believe people nowadays actually get paid to generate essentially the same kind of content thought up by bored 6-year olds playing with their crayons. Or Sonic fans. No difference, truthfully. :trazz:

"Dood, lookit! This dude I made up is like this guy and that guy, but they're ONE guy!" All that's missing is for one of them to have "every superpower plus infinite invincibility" to make them "super DUPER cool!" and it's first grade recess all over again. :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

...WTF am I looking at? :lol:

I can't believe people nowadays actually get paid to generate essentially the same kind of content thought up by bored 6-year olds playing with their crayons. Or Sonic fans. No difference, truthfully. :trazz:

"Dood, lookit! This dude I made up is like this guy and that guy, but they're ONE guy!" All that's missing is for one of them to have "every superpower plus infinite invincibility" to make them "super DUPER cool!" and it's first grade recess all over again. :lol:

:tlol: I look at it more as a very unfortunate comment on how cynical DC is, and how they know we'll eat up anything with Batman or Turtles on it.

"We wanna do another Batman/TMNT crossover, because it sells. Got any ideas?"
"Bro, I'm balls deep in this intern and high as a fvcking kite. Just come up with something, can't you?"
"TMNT/Batman mashup? Shredder/Joker?"
"Fvck if I care. *snorts cocaine off intern*."

[Leo656]

Pretty much. :lol: Especially TMNT fans; they've been eating sh*t for so long they can't tell it from ice cream anymore, so I get that. But Bat-fans are generally a bit more discriminating in their taste, so seeing something with a Batman logo on it aim so low is a bit disheartening. But like you said, they know it'll sell to a certain type of fanatic no matter what.

I skipped the first two for various reasons, but this one in particular looks pretty dreadful. :lol: It looks like an idea for a spin-off toy line, not ... y'know... a "story".

Although with TMNT stuff it's all one and the same nowadays, so I guess that's fair.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Pretty much. :lol: Especially TMNT fans; they've been eating sh*t for so long they can't tell it from ice cream anymore, so I get that. But Bat-fans are generally a bit more discriminating in their taste, so seeing something with a Batman logo on it aim so low is a bit disheartening. But like you said, they know it'll sell to a certain type of fanatic no matter what.

I skipped the first two for various reasons, but this one in particular looks pretty dreadful. :lol: It looks like an idea for a spin-off toy line, not ... y'know... a "story".

Although with TMNT stuff it's all one and the same nowadays, so I guess that's fair.

In the concept's defense, they're pretty cool toy concepts.

Like, I won't pay money for this series, but I'm really enjoying the art Freddie's posted. And who knows, there's a chance the story is better than the dumb crap they pulled with the first two series.

[oldmanwinters]

...WTF am I looking at? :lol:

I can't believe people nowadays actually get paid to generate essentially the same kind of content thought up by bored 6-year olds playing with their crayons. Or Sonic fans. No difference, truthfully. :trazz:

"Dood, lookit! This dude I made up is like this guy and that guy, but they're ONE guy!" All that's missing is for one of them to have "every superpower plus infinite invincibility" to make them "super DUPER cool!" and it's first grade recess all over again. :lol:

Did you ever read the late 1990s DC vs. Marvel crossover which gave us the Amalgam Comics Universe?

[Jester]

Did you ever read the late 1990s DC vs. Marvel crossover which gave us the Amalgam Comics Universe?
Loved the Amalgam Universe. Own several...need to track down the rest.

[Leo656]

Yeah, I have a few. They're... interesting. :lol:

[Igglet]

Everyone's probably going to hate me for saying this, but I get the feeling you guys are holding TMNT to too high of a standard. I love the franchise too, it's produced some of my favorite stories ever, but seriously, it's literally the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. There's nothing wrong with a dumb but fun story and this crossover perfectly captures that. For the most part (though obviously, with exceptions), that's what TMNT is about. Pretty much everyone I've seen outside of this forum loves the crossovers. If you just go along with the ride and appreciate it for the fact that it's just a fun story where the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles meet up with Batman to beat up Ra's Al Ghul and the Shredder, I'd say you'll appreciate it a lot more. Just my 2 cents.

[Coola Yagami]

Everyone's probably going to hate me for saying this, but I get the feeling you guys are holding TMNT to too high of a standard. I love the franchise too, it's produced some of my favorite stories ever, but seriously, it's literally the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. There's nothing wrong with a dumb but fun story and this crossover perfectly captures that. For the most part (though obviously, with exceptions), that's what TMNT is about. Pretty much everyone I've seen outside of this forum loves the crossovers. If you just go along with the ride and appreciate it for the fact that it's just a fun story where the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles meet up with Batman to beat up Ra's Al Ghul and the Shredder, I'd say you'll appreciate it a lot more. Just my 2 cents.

I'm pretty sure the problem is it's NEVER held to any sort of high regard. Whenever the powers at be decided to go all out crazy and actually make a serious TMNT story, then we can talk. If all they get are constant 'dumb fun' stories, that just tarnishes the overall brand as ONLY being dumb and fun.

That said, I have zero idea what they plan to do with this, expect Krang somehow merging the dimensions and the characters, assuming they're aware, have to stop it before it's permanent.

[neatoman]

What about... Two-Face and Rat King? Black Mask and Hun? Catwoman and Nobody? Mad Hatter and Bishop? Poison Ivy and Wyrm? Riddler and Doctor Dome? Scarecrow and Savanti?

[ChosenOne]

Well, why not the Bat King (Rat King + Man-Bat)? EPFiend (Bishop + KGBeast)? Slush (Slash + Hush)?

This whole thing is really just one gigantic ball of nonsensical fun. I love it!

[neatoman]

Slush (Slash + Hush)?

That sounds dirty.

[ChosenOne]

That sounds dirty.

"Slash" by itself sounds a lot dirtier, trust me. :lol: I went with that mash-up not just because of the name, but because Slash is sometimes portrayed as the dark mirror, the wanna-be, the turtle-but-not-quite, and good ol' Tommy Elliot and his obsession with passing for Bruce Wayne seemed close enough.

Now if only I could come up with a decent name for Cobblepot + Dunn...

[Leo656]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the, "It's ALL stupid, just give up and roll with it."

Some of it can be stupid. Some of it always has been. But it can also aim a lot higher, and at times, it has. There's no need to throw in the towel and accept that it's forever doomed to be nothing but vapid pabulum for babies.

If things were a little bit more balanced, I doubt anyone would complain when things like this happen. Seeing the people who handle the brand consistently aim for the lowest common denominator is disheartening.

I don't expect better at this point, but I'm also never going to stop hoping for things of a higher standard to eventually come along.

[Igglet]

I agree and disagree. Though for the most part, TMNT is a kids franchise these days and I don't think expecting too much from it will do you any good, yes, I do believe TMNT CAN aim higher, and at times, should. A crossover with Batman isn't one of those times. I agree, the cartoons should aim higher than they currently do with Rise. The main IDW on-going is aiming high. And once we get a movie, I hope it aims high as well. But a Batman/TMNT crossover can, and I'd argue should just be dumb fun.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Everyone's probably going to hate me for saying this, but I get the feeling you guys are holding TMNT to too high of a standard. I love the franchise too, it's produced some of my favorite stories ever, but seriously, it's literally the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. There's nothing wrong with a dumb but fun story and this crossover perfectly captures that. For the most part (though obviously, with exceptions), that's what TMNT is about. Pretty much everyone I've seen outside of this forum loves the crossovers. If you just go along with the ride and appreciate it for the fact that it's just a fun story where the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles meet up with Batman to beat up Ra's Al Ghul and the Shredder, I'd say you'll appreciate it a lot more. Just my 2 cents.

Not necessarily hate but more so viewing this as missing the point. Batman in concept is pretty corny; a billionaire who dresses as a bat and fights crime instead of moving on from his parents' death and living his life as a wealthy rich man. But eventually, it took writers such as Frank Miller to look pass the Silver Age era and take risks with this character, which may or may not have alienated those who loved the interpretations before the 80s (one of my old high school teachers dislikes Batman nowadays because he's nothing like how he was in the Adam West TV series he used to love, lol).

Holding something to a high standard may be strange but being passionate about something that has potential despite the title pretty much shows how much value an intellectual property has if it can last this long.

[Leo656]

Batman's been part of dozens of inter-company cross-overs that weren't just "dumb fun", and there's at least a dozen ways a TMNT/Batman cross-over could be done in a way that would both be "fun" and also, y'know, not stupid. DKR Batman and Mirage-style TMNT, for just one example.

I don't buy the defeatist attitude some people subscribe to. If everyone forever is willing to settle for less, than "less" is all anyone will ever get. But it's whatever. Wrong company bought TMNT, it is what it is at this point.

[Andrew NDB]

Batman's been part of dozens of inter-company cross-overs that weren't just "dumb fun"

Very true. I can attest to this.

[Igglet]

My point wasn't that Batman couldn't have crossovers that weren't dumb fun, my point is that a crossover between Batman and TMNT wouldn't work if it actually took itself too seriously. While, again, this comes down to my personal opinion that I can't exactly prove, I think the sillier parts of the two franchises work together well, but if you take that away, you're left with something that just doesn't work.

[Leo656]

That is definitely an opinion.

Like most opinions, it's also bananas.

But I mean, it's whatever, have fun with it. I've completely had my life's fill of "goofy", just in general.

[AlZarkovski]

https://www.newsarama.com/44954-crisis-in-a-half-shell-with-batman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-conclusion.html
Spoilers!

[daggio]

Me personally, I don't necessarily mind this crossover. For what it is, I feel it so far has been fun. Now, with that said, I'm glad these series' aren't canon to the TMNT side of it (and probably not the Batman side either). Some of the plot points and even some of the characterizations are, in my view, so contradictory to the main IDW story that there is no real way to make it canon. So this is more of a fun distraction or separate continuity from the main story.

[neatoman]

https://www.newsarama.com/44954-crisis-in-a-half-shell-with-batman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-conclusion.html
Spoilers!

So is Gordon fused with someone or is he just good old Jim Gordon?

[Igglet]

So is Gordon fused with someone or is he just good old Jim Gordon?

Think he's fused with Casey.

[bushido]

James Tynion IV and Freddie Williams II Talk Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III
https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/04/30/batman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-3-interview-williams-tynion/

[ChosenOne]

Think he's fused with Casey.

Wouldn't that make him... Jim Jones? :lol:

[Ninjinister]

Wouldn't that make him... Jim Jones? :lol:

Ohhh that would not bode well.

[Redeemer]

Issue one came out today and I thought it was better than expected.
I could not for the life of me think of who could have been the one to escape from Krang. Mirage Raphael was a huge and unexpected reveal. I am hoping this cross-over will be better than the last one.

[Igglet]

Well, that's unexpected to say the least.

[Ninjinister]

Did they really need to make Don an "actually guy"? Ugh.

[Powder]

I really hope they're not going to do a "Mirage" portion.

I really wish they hadn't. Oh, wow, I hate this.

[BlueKatana]

Picked up the first issue today, like what I’ve seen so far.

[bushido]

Tynion interview (with SPOILERS)
https://www.newsarama.com/45009-yes-that-s-eastman-laird-s-original-mirage-turtles-in-batman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-iii.html

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Ugh, you're right.

Elephant Bane and "RAWR VENOM MAKE ME STRONG" Bane. Why not a third Hun/Bane mashup. :trolleye:

Instead of venom he could run on beer and protein shakes...

[ChosenOne]

This is starting to look more and more like a spiritual successor to Turtles Forever.

[Andrew NDB]

This is starting to look more and more like a spiritual successor to Turtles Forever.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3og0IPCZ4Xjydp7sAw/source.gif

[ChosenOne]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3og0IPCZ4Xjydp7sAw/source.gif

You don't think so, or you don't want it to be one?

[AquaParade]

You don't think so, or you don't want it to be one?

He means don't give him hope. Pretty sure he said Forever is the best incarnation of TMNT and it essentially redeemed the Mirage TMNT by associating them with the old toon, the definitive version of TMNT.

[ChosenOne]

He means don't give him hope. Pretty sure he said Forever is the best incarnation of TMNT and it essentially redeemed the Mirage TMNT by associating them with the old toon, the definitive version of TMNT.

Oh. I see. Well, it's still too early to tell either way but it does seem to have a few elements in common, at the very least.

We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

He means don't give him hope. Pretty sure he said Forever is the best incarnation of TMNT and it essentially redeemed the Mirage TMNT by associating them with the old toon, the definitive version of TMNT.

https://media.giphy.com/media/r1HGFou3mUwMw/giphy-downsized-large.gif

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. :teek:

[Joey Kamikaze]

That was... interesting. Not in a bad way.

I mean, I feel like it's already better than the second crossover.

[bushido]

More about the "reveal" :
https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/05/02/batman-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-iii-creative-team-talks-abou/

[Utrommaniac]

Well, obviously Krang merged universes because he's an absolute nerd