Punisher and Jessica Jones cancelled

[Andrew NDB]

Well, that's all, folks.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/netflix-cancels-the-punisher-jessica-jones/?fbclid=IwAR1TF12H5w7M_qumOfl8Bc6VICqrBC92WcVIwi2f xs8qN14Pnp4d7Ub0pkQ

We can now 100% completely rule out that ratings have anything to do with these cancellations, since Jessica Jones season 3 isn't even out yet.

I was almost thinking Netflix would keep Punisher and cancel Jessica Jones, since Punisher was a different deal than the original Netflix deal and because Punisher is fairly disconnected from the other shows.

[Autbot_Benz]

don't have a netflix subscription anymore and good riddance

[neatoman]

So does this mean that cringe sounding season of the Punisher isn't happening or has that already been made?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sigh. These are the shows that convinced me to subscribe to Netflix in the first place.

Jessica Jones Season 3 better be good.

[Andrew NDB]

Maybe this is a good sign, a sign that Marvel has already bought Netflix out of its 2 year or whatever contract, freeing them up to be able to take the shows elsewhere.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Maybe this is a good sign, a sign that Marvel has already bought Netflix out of its 2 year or whatever contract, freeing them up to be able to take the shows elsewhere.

I'd like to think that could happen, but I really don't think we'll see these versions of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, or the Punisher again. :tsad:

Or, y'know, the Iron Fist. Silver linings. :tlol:

[Candy Kappa]

No surprise there. But I wonder, where will the pop up outside of the US, is Disney+ going to be worldwide, Hulu ain't.

Would be hilarious if the shows ended up on Netflix internationally anyway like STD

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

No surprise there. But I wonder, where will the pop up outside of the US, is Disney+ going to be worldwide, Hulu ain't.

Would be hilarious if the shows ended up on Netflix internationally anyway like STD

Still sucks for us Yankees. If I wanna watch Star Trek Disco, I gotta get CBS Access.

That would be nifty for the global community, though.

[Andrew NDB]

If I wanna watch Star Trek Disco

Why would you want to do a horrible thing like that?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Why would you want to do a horrible thing like that?

I liked a lot of the characters... Tilly, Stamets, Georgiou, Lorca, Culber, Tyler, Saru.

The story was 50% ass, but the characters shone through a lot of the time.

Except for Burnham. Man, I did not like Burnham.

[ProactiveMan]

No surprise there. But I wonder, where will the pop up outside of the US, is Disney+ going to be worldwide, Hulu ain't.

Would be hilarious if the shows ended up on Netflix internationally anyway like STD

Interestingly a local streaming service here recently snaffled the rights to all Disney, Marvel, and Star Wars stuff away from Netflix; not including Netflix originals of course.

[Andrew NDB]

This probably isn't a good sign:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/marvel-to-sell-off-netflix-show-costumes-props/

[Candy Kappa]

If only I could **** money and buy that daredevil suit.

[Andrew NDB]

If only I could **** money and buy that daredevil suit.

Can you imagine what it will go for?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This probably isn't a good sign:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/marvel-to-sell-off-netflix-show-costumes-props/

Aw man. :tsad:

If only I could **** money and buy that daredevil suit.

I'd personally love Kilgrave's purple jacket or Shades', well, shades. That sh!t was fabulous.

[Andrew NDB]

I'd wear one of Luke Cage's bullethole hoodies.

[snake]

Why are they just selling it?

IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM.

Or a warehouse.

[ProphetofGanja]

Damn, that sucks. I liked most of the Marvel Netflix shows, even though I eventually concluded that while the events of the MCU may have once influenced the events of the Netflix MCU, the events of the NMCU were never going to influence the MCU at large.

I'd like to think that could happen, but I really don't think we'll see these versions of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, or the Punisher again. :tsad:

Or, y'know, the Iron Fist. Silver linings. :tlol:

Jeezus Christ that show was bad, like a train wrecking into a dumpster fire :roll:

This probably isn't a good sign:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/marvel-to-sell-off-netflix-show-costumes-props/

I bet you somebody buys the Iron Fist costume just to burn it :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

I bet you somebody buys the Iron Fist costume just to burn it :lol:

What costume? They forgot to actually ever give him one.

Part of me wonders if the end of the Marvel Netflix stuff is really so bad... I enjoyed it all collectively so much more than the movies, but I don't know that they really had a good idea in their head for future direction. Nobody was evolving... just regressing or standing still. Be it Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, or Jessica Jones. I thought we'd be seeing much more superheroics than we did at the end of all the seasons. You know, some kind of progression. Even the movies give you a sense of that. Of building up, getting better. And we all know how The Defenders ended up... completely sh***ing on the promise that the end of Daredevil one sold us.

Daredevil doesn't even have a costume anymore and spent 2 of his 3 seasons fighting the same guy. Iron Fist never even got a costume, and lost his powers (but regained them somehow, mysteriously? or something?). Jessica Jones ended up using her powers even less than in the first season, still basically on the same character arc of "Maybe I can feel something again?" Luke Cage just doing a whole lot of nothing.

The biggest crime is Punisher, to me. And yeah, they'll never find a Frank Castle as good as Bernthal. Maybe Grillo if he hadn't have been wasted in the Captain America movies. Maybe that Leprechaun guy from American Gods... he seems like he could be Bernthal's brother in real life.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

What costume? They forgot to actually ever give him one.

Part of me wonders if the end of the Marvel Netflix stuff is really so bad... I enjoyed it all collectively so much more than the movies, but I don't know that they really had a good idea in their head for future direction. Nobody was evolving... just regressing or standing still. Be it Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, or Jessica Jones. I thought we'd be seeing much more superheroics than we did at the end of all the seasons. You know, some kind of progression. Even the movies give you a sense of that. Of building up, getting better. And we all know how The Defenders ended up... completely sh***ing on the promise that the end of Daredevil one sold us.

Daredevil doesn't even have a costume anymore and spent 2 of his 3 seasons fighting the same guy. Iron Fist never even got a costume, and lost his powers (but regained them somehow, mysteriously? or something?). Jessica Jones ended up using her powers even less than in the first season, still basically on the same character arc of "Maybe I can feel something again?" Luke Cage just doing a whole lot of nothing.

The biggest crime is Punisher, to me. And yeah, they'll never find a Frank Castle as good as Bernthal. Maybe Grillo if he hadn't have been wasted in the Captain America movies. Maybe that Leprechaun guy from American Gods... he seems like he could be Bernthal's brother in real life.

Except for Iron Fist, the Marvel Netflix casting has been spot on. It's really weird, though, how everything seemed to lose steam and direction after Defenders.

I guess it's a look at how the MCU could have derailed if Avengers 1 had been a trainwreck?

[Andrew NDB]

Except for Iron Fist, the Marvel Netflix casting has been spot on. It's really weird, though, how everything seemed to lose steam and direction after Defenders.

I guess it's a look at how the MCU could have derailed if Avengers 1 had been a trainwreck?

Seems about right. Or kind of what did actually happen after "Justice League"?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Seems about right. Or kind of what did actually happen after "Justice League"?

:tlol: :tlol: :tlol: :tlol:

I just realized I don't even consider DC's stuff in a cinematic universe anymore, hence why I didn't remember to even use them as an example. Justice League didn't just derail the train, it opened up a portal straight into development hell. :tlol:

[neatoman]

So what are the chances of Marvel pretending these shows never happened and just using unrelated versions of these characters in the movies? Even though GotG, Black Panther and Captain Marvel all did well at the box office, actually making movies out of them wouldn't have happened unless there was an established audience. Not to mention how Doctor Strange and Ant-Man didn't do as well (probably because they couldn't milk identity politics and a lack of competition). The fact that they intend to make movies out of Shang-Chi, Black Widow and the Eternals sounds like they needed to make filler before the new line of X-Men movies.

Bottom line, it seems like they were starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel for popular comics to adapt until two days ago.

[Candy Kappa]

Not to mention how Doctor Strange and Ant-Man didn't do as well (probably because they couldn't milk identity politics and a lack of competition).

There was plenty of Identity politics buzzing around Dr Strange, especially With Disney being China's bitch and wipe Tibet of their hands and "canon". It just wasn't the positive kind :P

[neatoman]

There was plenty of Identity politics buzzing around Dr Strange, especially With Disney being China's bitch and wipe Tibet of their hands and "canon". It just wasn't the positive kind :P

Yeah the white washing of the ancient one seemed a bit odd considering they didn't have to mention the character's nationality.

And the identity politics of BP are pretty weird when you think about it. It's marketed towards African-Americans as "their" movie but it's about a fictional royal line, from a fictional country with a fictional culture, built on a fictional resource. The one African-American character is a ruthless, psychotic, usurping, hypocritical serial killer who shot his girlfriend and tried to kill his cousin for revenge, then tried to start a world war.

[Candy Kappa]

I think BP did more was in show us what African-based sci-fi fantasy can really be when done with care. Especially when a lot of African imagry usually is not very kind

But if it was marketed in the US was heavily for African-Americans, Yeah that is a bit of a interesting angle.

[Andrew NDB]

... and Punisher and Jessica Jones live action rights have reverted back to Marvel, apparently the last of the Netflix bunch to do so. Now Marvel has them all back.

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-studios-punisher-jessica-jones-mcu-netflix/?fbclid=IwAR1dldpR-t1Y1zuo4pwI3q9Yi8ML5Ojd8e2sEXzegG52gW1bBdxKj_-afwU