View Full Version : Forget rare, how about some of the non-existent figures?
tmntman
11-11-2003, 07:40 PM
Ok, so we have talked about which figures are tough to find. Now which figures/items never made it to shelves? Has anyone ever seen any of these beyond the promo pics from Playmates?
1991
Turtle Tenderizer 4x4 (the Foot monster truck)
Turtle Shell backpack (a figure case that straps to your back)
Giant April (I heard that this got as far a the prototype stage)
1992
Sidewalk Surfer ( a repaint of a toxic crusader sailboard)
Retromutagen Rifle (a role playing rifle with attached ninja weapons)
Turtle Popcan Racer
TMNT Sewer Sports soccerball
1993
Muta-Party Wagon (a Turtlevan that transformed into a Metalhead-esque robot)
Giant Movie III Don and Mike
1994
*My personal Holy Grails* Warriors of the Forgotten Sewer Splinter and Knight Mike (these were protyped and Mike even made it onto cardbacks on later shipments into Canada)
Savage Leo with Sewer Warcat
Giant Cyber Sanurai (a 12" motorized item)
Hot Roddin' Ninjamobiles (Rat Fink style versions of the turtle van and Mutant Module)
Movie Sewer Subway Car ( a playset based on the subway car from the 2nd movie)
1995
Mini-Mutant Turtle Transports (the first five sets were common, but later sets such as the Tank and Muscle Cars are rare and there were 10 to 15 other sets planned including monster trucks and jet boats.)
Mini-Cyber Plane/Weapons Station
Team Ninja assortments (a strange cross between TMNT, Power Rangers and Superhuman Cyber Samurai)
Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop (I don't even know if these made it out in Japan)
Metal Mutant War Horse (a vac-metal gold version of the Movie III Warhorse)
Jim Lee version Leonardo
Rahzar with fur
Special Sewer Forces (repaints of some of the military figures)
Warrior Bebop (metal yellow version of robotic Bebop. This one might have come out, but I've never seen one)
1998
Dr Quease
TMNT:tnm Shadow Ninja Deluxe figures
Ninjatron
11-11-2003, 09:55 PM
Muta-Party Wagon (a Turtlevan that transformed into a Metalhead-esque robot)
Man, I want that SO bad. That thing is awesome.
I remember there being a few Next Mutation figures that didn't make it. I'm not sure if they are the same ones that you listed. There were two Turtleflage figures with vehicles, Leo and Don with some sort of personal watercrafts, where the figure was fully painted in the same kind of camo-esque pattern that the vehicle was, with the gimmick being that the turtles couldn't be deciphered from their vehicles.
There were rumors about other figures, like another Dragon Lord that actually had the fully sculpted face rather than the mask that the costume was originaly going to have.
That Dr Quease figure was pretty decent, too bad it didn't see a release. And the Vam Mi figure was pretty hard to find.
Sayonara.
SkaterMike
11-11-2003, 09:56 PM
I cant help you out with much on the list, but I do have the Tank from the 1995 minis. I never thought that it was rare, since I've never been too serious of a tmnt toy collector, just a big fan. Heres a pic from the official site:
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/toys/1995/combat.jpg
Sorry I can't post pics of mine, (no digital camera or server :( ), but I do have it, minus the radar on top of the tank (damn moving across the country a few years ago :x )
VaughnMichael
11-12-2003, 12:59 AM
you had to go and do it tmntman lol!
I'm so gonna have dare i say wet toy dreams now lol sorry if thats a bit much but god
that list is just to much for me I used to have photos of all of them I need to hunt down those old toy magazines and find the photos of those toys I am sure dan berger has them he's prolly got easy acces to playmates photos...
sigh god theres even more things that never came out and it just makes me so sad they tease us like that lol...
Vaughn Michael
TMNTGal
11-12-2003, 01:11 AM
1991
Turtle Tenderizer 4x4 - I know I've seen this. Bebop is on the box. I know I have a photo somewhere.
Turtle Shell BackPack - There's at least a prototype of this item. You can see a kid wearing it in one of the Playmates toy catalogues.
Giant April - Never heard of a prototype, the Playmates catalogues I've seen only showed concept art.
1992
Sidewalk Surfer - Released a Mike's Sidewalk Surfer. I know I've seen this too. I have to find the photos.
Retromutagen Rifle - You can see it in the Playmated catalogue but I doubt it saw a release. I've never seen one.
Turtle Popcan Racer - Wasn't this a rumor? I've seen no mention of this in the catalogues.
TMNT Sewer Sports soccerball - never released
1993
Muta-Party Wagon - This was awesome, you can see it in full color in the catalogue. Too bad it wasn't released.
Giant Movie III Don and Mike - What was up with that? These should have been released, Playmates is wacky.
1994
Warriors of the Forgotten Sewer Splinter and Knight Mike - The painted protos are extremely nice.
Savage Leo with Sewer Warcat - I know someone who has a proto of Warcat. I want to find a way to get it.
Giant Cyber Samurai - Never heard of this. Where did you hear this?
Hot Roddin' Ninjamobiles - Never heard of this either.
Movie Sewer Subway Car - Nor this. Were these in a catalogue?
1995
Mini-Mutant Turtle Transports - There are several that are difficult to find.
Mini-Cyber Plane/Weapons Station - This was released
Team Ninja assortments - This seems unlikely. Where did this info come from?
Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop - These never saw a release, I don't think they made proto either.
Metal Mutant War Horse - Never heard of this either.
Jim Lee version Leonardo - I don't think this was planned. They just decided to release another Dragon instead of Leo. I thought that was stupid. I liked Leo's red costume.
Rahzar with fur - Protos exist but was never released. This was a good idea too bad it didn't go anywhere.
Special Sewer Forces - Protos exist for these too. The catalogue shows photos. No release for these either.
Warrior Bebop - I think this did come out. I saw one in an eBay lot once, but the listing was cancelled. I remember the yellow chrome. I can't say 100% though, it was quite some time ago.
1998
Dr Quease - I'd love to find a proto of this.
TMNT: TNM Shadow Ninja Deluxe figures - I remember seeing concept art for these on the website. Damn, If I had only saved the photos... They looked very cool.
Also, one catalogue had the cutest assortment of disguised plush!!! The only Disguides plush I know was released was Santa Raph since I have it.
- Undercover Raph W/Trenchcoat
- Soldier Mike
- Karate Master Leo
- Farmer Don
- Surfer Mike
- Splinter
- Bebop
- Rocksteady
I'd give anything to aquire these, especially the Leo. They are the cutest things you've ever seen. *melts into puddle*
Anyone know if Tokka's Battle Fun Set was released? It looks more like a Slash costume, but they called it Tokka. :P
VaughnMichael
11-12-2003, 03:04 AM
1.Giant Cyber Samurai - Never heard of this. Where did you hear this?
this was talked about at toy fair the one year they had a photo of it in one of the toy books.....it was robotic and it came with a romote controll god it was so awsome...]
2.Movie Sewer Subway Car
this was mentioned in the same magazine
3.Team Ninja assortments
I used to have a photo of these bad boys also from the same isue at toy fair! god I wish i had svaed those toy mags now....grrr...
4.Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop
I also used to have pictures of these from the same magazine...
5.Metal Mutant War Horse
also in the same magazine lol
6.Jim Lee version Leonardo
also in that isue lol
7.Dr Quease
god me and you both sista lol
8. TMNT: TNM Shadow Ninja Deluxe figures
I actully had proto pictures of these from the same toy magazine lol god I must go find that magazine again!
9.Anyone know if Tokka's Battle Fun Set was released? It looks more like a Slash costume, but they called it Tokka
lmao that al;ways made me so mad as a kid them doing that to good old slashy poo! i'm not exactly sure what you are talking about here though so I can't answere that one
Vaughn Michael
tmntman
11-12-2003, 07:43 AM
All of the items on the list came from the Playmates' catalogs for that year. Years ago I managed to collect each of the Toy Fair catalogs that are handed out via Ebay. They are really nice with great pics of all of the products.
(I still like the proto pics of the Turtlevan with a trap door on the front so the driver and bombs could be dumped out of the vehicle. I'm guess this idea got canned since whatever character was dumped out would be dropped right in front of the 'moving' vehicle. Perhapse the Turtles were worried about car jackers?)
Shellfox
11-12-2003, 12:54 PM
I actually have pics of all the Turtleflage/Villians NM figures from a old issue of Toy Fare.
I'm pretty sure Quese was released since I swear I saw him at one store with Turtleflage Venus, but I only saw them once, still wish I had bought them
evil_henchmen
11-12-2003, 02:19 PM
I am pretty sure the WOTFS figures were called Knight Leo and Spell Caster Splinter. These are by far my two favorite TMNT prototypes and hopefully will own them someday.
TMNT4LIFE
11-12-2003, 02:35 PM
1995
Warrior Bebop - I think this did come out. I saw one in an eBay lot once, but the listing was cancelled. I remember the yellow chrome. I can't say 100% though, it was quite some time ago.
Maybe it was just a regular Robotic Bebop and because of the way the light hit the photo it made it look yellow.
I thought I saw a Yellow Warrior Bebop in a lot before but I asked the seller for upclose pics of it and it turned out to be the silver robotic version. :cry: The light can sometimes make the chrome look a different color.
TMNTGal
11-12-2003, 03:54 PM
Putrescent, you have to find this magazine. :D
Tokkas Battle Fun set was another dress up set. It includes a Black Mask attached to a plastic nose, elbow & knee pads, a black belt, hand attachments that look like Slash's claw things, and some throwing stars. I'll get a scan and post it later tonight.
Correction, it was Knight Mike. :) Here's a photo.
WOTFS Prototypes (http://home.earthlink.net/~leosgal/PHOTOS/WOTFSProtos.jpg)
TMNT4LIFE, it's possible I was mistaken but I believe there was a coin in the package. All of the chrome was yellow and the color was different in places. I can't say for sure since It was only a glance.
TMNT4LIFE
11-12-2003, 07:15 PM
TMNT4LIFE, it's possible I was mistaken but I believe there was a coin in the package. All of the chrome was yellow and the color was different in places. I can't say for sure since It was only a glance.
Well I guess we will never know. Somebody else on here should have seen one by now but I do agree that it was probably made and is going to be VERY tough to find.
I have seen Knight Mike on the back of some Canadian backings so maybe that one slipped out. Or just wishful thinking on my part.
evil_henchmen
11-12-2003, 08:16 PM
Savage Leo with Sewer Warcat - I know someone who has a proto of Warcat. I want to find a way to get it.
TMNTGal-
Who owns this prototype? If you choose not to disclose the info i completely understand. I ony know of one guy who has lots of TMNT protos.
I've seen pics of alot of this stuff but some i have not. If anyone can provide some pics that would be awesome.
evil_henchmen
11-12-2003, 08:24 PM
Forgot to mention that if anyone has Tomarts issues 94-95 they had a complete listing of virtually all vintage TMNT excluding variations. Also in issue 95 on page 51 they show a piece of concept art for the 13" April, Jim Lee Leo proto, concept art for the Turtle Popcan Racer, Sidewalk Surfer proto and concept art for Team Ninja Turtles.
Kid Icarus
11-12-2003, 08:34 PM
That Splinter figure's pretty cool... Infact, that entire line would have been great.
azure turtle
11-12-2003, 09:08 PM
Correction, it was Knight Mike. :) Here's a photo.
WOTFS Prototypes (http://home.earthlink.net/~leosgal/PHOTOS/WOTFSProtos.jpg)
Oh man... I remember seeing those figures before. The Knight Mike fig looks so cool. I wish Playmates would've released that.
RedFreak
11-12-2003, 10:48 PM
Movie Sewer Subway Car ( a playset based on the subway car from the 2nd movie)
If only there were pictures.... :(
VaughnMichael
11-13-2003, 02:14 AM
I'm going to go find those toy magazines this weekend
but tmnt gal that picture you have there is from the exact issue with all the other ones....god I love you for posting that!
also let it be know I told dan berger he should really make a proto types and unreleased tmnt page on the site he told me thats a great idea and make it a top thing to do *i'm prolly just being to hopefull though* but I hope he does it
omg tmntgal Tokkas Battle Fun did come out I saw it at a kmart when it first came out I wanted it so bad because it looked like slash but I was to emberassed to ask for it lmao! god how I wish I'd have asked *kicks self*
The_Blue_One-Leonardo
hopefully I will have one for you soon if I find one here...
also I have been told by several people Dr. Quease, warrior rahzar with fur and warrior bebop the gold one had come out...I still dont think they did I will believe it when i see it then I will pass out and then sell everything I own to get them lol
Vaughn Michael
TMNT4LIFE
11-13-2003, 08:18 AM
also I have been told by several people Dr. Quease, warrior rahzar with fur and warrior bebop the gold one had come out...I still dont think they did I will believe it when i see it then I will pass out and then sell everything I own to get them lol
Vaughn Michael
I wish we had some proof those existed. If they did come out they would be by far the rarest TMNT and they'd be something I probably couldn't afford. If Scratch can sell for $250-$300 what would those 3 sell for. :o :o :o
evil_henchmen
11-13-2003, 10:39 AM
I wish we had some proof those existed. If they did come out they would be by far the rarest TMNT and they'd be something I probably couldn't afford. If Scratch can sell for $250-$300 what would those 3 sell for. :o :o :o[/quote]
They would be priceless to the hardcore TMNT collector.
jasonorme666
11-13-2003, 11:12 AM
Metal Mutant Rocksteady and Bebop
The metal versions?
Seen em, wish I bought em.
jasonorme666
11-13-2003, 11:14 AM
Turtle Shell backpack (a figure case that straps to your back)
Ive seen one on Ebay a few months back.
Its a square shaped backpack with a curved off top with a design of a shell on it.
You open up the part that goes onto you back and it has slots and gaps.
And so they dont fall out, you put a flap of cardboard covered in black plastic over it.
TMNT4LIFE
11-13-2003, 05:28 PM
They would be priceless to the hardcore TMNT collector.
I'd pay BIG BIG BIG TIME money to get the two Warrior ones if they existed. As for Dr. Quease I really never liked that line so I don't care if he exists or not.
jasonorme666
11-13-2003, 06:02 PM
yeah A Dr Quease does exist.
I dont own it, but its shown on the back of the next mutation figure card.
VaughnMichael
11-13-2003, 11:28 PM
just because it was on the back of the card does not mean it came out.....
it only exists somewhere in proto form
and I must own it *drolls and growls snarl!!* lol
Vaughn Michael
TMNT4LIFE
11-17-2003, 09:00 AM
yeah A Dr Quease does exist.
I dont own it, but its shown on the back of the next mutation figure card.
Yeah just because it exists on the back doesn't mean it was released. That figure was near the end of the line and it got canned before it could come out. If it did come out they only made a handful of them.
DarthRaphael
11-17-2003, 11:23 AM
I have a re-print of Metal Mutant Rocksteady by Playmates, MOC. Cool looking fig.
I always wanted a sewer playset that held water like in the FootSki commercials. I actually built one as a kid. :)
VaughnMichael
11-17-2003, 12:15 PM
pics of the metal mutant rocksteady please?
I'd love to see a photo of your metal mutant rocksteady I've never seen one before
please post it if you take a pic and need a place to host it i will for you
send it to
[email protected]
thank you
Vaughn Michael
evil_henchmen
11-17-2003, 02:33 PM
I would also like to see a pic of MM Rocksteady.
TMNT4LIFE
11-17-2003, 07:42 PM
Yeah I'd like to see a pic of the MM Rocksteady as well.
DarthRaphael
11-17-2003, 09:08 PM
I actually think I have Robotic Rocksteady, but here's a pic anyway.
http://home.adelphia.net/~darthracer/images/TMNT/RoboticRocksteady.jpg
evil_henchmen
11-17-2003, 09:18 PM
Yea that is Robotic Bebop.
Hamato Yoshi
11-18-2003, 12:30 AM
I clearly remember reading a mail order catalog which had Megablock? TMNT (sets?) when the 1st movie came out , I can't recall what it looked like as it was soo long ago.
VaughnMichael
11-18-2003, 12:52 AM
yep that is a re isue either the last or second to last depenind on which color the warning lable is up top in either case very nice and will be very rare as many of the reisues are
take it easy
Vaughn Michael
tmntman
11-18-2003, 07:45 AM
I actually think I have Robotic Rocksteady, but here's a pic anyway.
That is Robotic Rocksteady, not the Warrior Rocksteady and Warrior Bebop that was mentioned in the beginning of this topic. The warrior versions were the same figures with color vac metal finish. Warrior Rocksteady did come out and I actually have a couple of them. It is the yellow version of Bebop that to date, I don't know of anyone having found.
VaughnMichael
11-18-2003, 12:15 PM
I own Warrior Rocksteady also Mine has pine green weapons though the ones I've been seeing on ebay have yellow weapons so now I know there are a few veriations on this rare figure...
Vaughn Michael
http://www.pixilatedwhitewash.com/WarriorRocksteadyWithCoin1995PurpleWarningLableFro nt.jpghttp://www.pixilatedwhitewash.com/WarriorRocksteadyWithCoin1995PurpleWarningLableBac k.jpg
TMNT4LIFE
11-18-2003, 07:43 PM
I've only seen him with green and yellow weapons with the yellow weapons being slightly more difficult to come by.
Shadwcat
11-21-2003, 05:47 PM
Hi Hi. I thought the chromed war horse was produced. As for Metal Mutant Bebop and Rocksteady, they were not produced in Japan either.
Hey Tmntman.... could you post or e-mails us photos of the Spellcast or Knight loose or moc? Really thrilled to see them.
As for my favorite figures. I always liked Triceraton, so Shogun Triceraton even rocks more. Chromedome kicks butt as well.
evil_henchmen
11-21-2003, 06:20 PM
Just scroll up 6-7 posts and there are pics of the WOTFS figures.
As for MM Bebop and Rocksteady they were never released unfortunately. Would love to see some pics of those pieces.
TMNT4LIFE
11-21-2003, 07:55 PM
Quick question about the back of that Warrior Rocksteady.
Were all those pieces on the back suppose to be rereleased with a gold collector's coin?
I know some of those weren't even released on the back but it includes the Warriors and Adventures series which both had the figures coming with the coins.
Why else would they put people like Rat King on the back?
Shadwcat
11-21-2003, 08:00 PM
Oh, now I reread it.. I was wrong. I thought tmntman stated he actually had them and they were produced in Canada towards the end. My mistake. I was looking for pics of them packaged, not the toyfair display :) I got all excited thinking there was another TMNT figure I needed then. Still in search of Undercover Don MOC :(
VaughnMichael
11-22-2003, 03:21 AM
I doub they were...seeing as many of the toys on the back have never even seen a re-release like Gengis frog for example...
the last rat king that came out was the re-release with collector card and it's extreamly rare the only 2 people I know that own one are myself and tmnt gal but I unfortunatly don't have mine with me her ein texas it's back at my mothers in pittsburgh....
but yes both the warrior and adventure figures had the coins...
they put him on the back to take up space....
like thay have been doing for an extreamly long time....
they had scumbug wrym, triceraton on the back of those pizza back card for a very long time but none of them saw any kind of re-release whatso ever
hope this helps here is a list of things I know about the back of this card
Warrior Winged Donatello Came With a coin
Warrior Winged Leonardo Came With a coin
Warrior Metelhead Michealangelo came with coin
April came with a coin & Card & Coin
Artic Don Came with coin
Casey Jones if he did I don't remeber
Crazy Cowboy don I have no idea why he's on the back he's never been re-released at all ever...
Deep Sea Diver Leo came with coin
Demolition specialist Donatello was never released...
Convert Specialist Raphael was never released
Head Droppin' Raphael did not come with a coin but instead was part of the 10th aniversy ninja action figure line
Communications specialist Leonardo was never released
Metalhead Michealangelo was released but without a coin and was just warrior metalhead michaelangelo with a differnt card back
Movie Star Splinter I am pretty sure came with a coin
Submergence Specialist Michaelangelo was not released....
Safari Michaelangelo came with a coin
Skateboardin' Michaelangelo was not released untill the kb toys xclusive green warning lable boxed figures..so no coin for him...
Out of the 4 undercover tmnt with real cloth coats LEO is the only one to have come out with a coin that I know of
Warrior Bebop to everyones knowledge seems to not have come out
Warrior Chrome Dome I own 2 one with and one without a coin
Warrior Rahzar with fur was not released unfortunatly
Warrior Rocksteady came with a coin obviously
Chrome Dome last re-release for him was with a collector card
Foot soldier came with a coin
Gengis frog never came out after his first release
Krangs Android Body came with a coin & collector card & coin together
Shredder Came with a coin
Baxter Stockman last re-release was with a collector card
Rat King last release was with collecor card and is very rare
Rhinoman came with coin
Robotic Bebop came with coin
Robotic Rocksteady came with coin
Sergeant Bananas was never re-released (sorry I ment re-released before ^_~)
Vaughn Michael
TMNT4LIFE
11-22-2003, 04:10 PM
Casey Jones if he did I don't remeber
Warrior Chrome Dome I own 2 one with and one without a coin
Rat King last release was with collecor card and is very rare
Thanks for all the info and help Putrescent.
Casey Jones did come out with a card and coin rerelease. I have seen one.
But I've never seen Warrior Chrome Dome without a gold coin or Rat King with a Collector's Card.
evil_henchmen
11-23-2003, 03:25 AM
I've seen Casey Jones w/ card & coin as well. I should have bought it when i had the opportunity.
I have never seen Rat King on a rerelease card though. I would love to see pics of that.
Mecha Cow
11-23-2003, 11:53 AM
Sergeant Bananas was never released
Sergeant Bananas is the gorilla in army outfit, isn't it?
That was released, I have it.
evil_henchmen
11-23-2003, 01:01 PM
I think he meant to type "rereleased". We all know Sgt. Bananas was released.
TMNT4LIFE
11-23-2003, 04:58 PM
Sergeant Bananas was never released
Sergeant Bananas is the gorilla in army outfit, isn't it?
That was released, I have it.
He was talking about coming out in the "new" cards that had the 4 turtles in the background. Usually those figures came with a collector's card, gold coin, or both.
Bananas was released but he was never rereleased.
Mecha Cow
11-24-2003, 12:33 PM
Ah, ok.
I thought it was weird coming from a hard-core-collector. ;)
Iron Bison
11-27-2003, 11:41 PM
TMNTGal, where's the scan of Tokka's Battle Fun set? I am very curious as to what it looks like.
VaughnMichael
11-27-2003, 11:48 PM
TMNTGal, where's the scan of Tokka's Battle Fun set? I am very curious as to what it looks like.
hmmmmmmmm not sure if you noticed but tmntgal has been gone for awhile...wonder where she went to...
Vaughn Michael
Iron Bison
11-27-2003, 11:53 PM
TMNTGal, where's the scan of Tokka's Battle Fun set? I am very curious as to what it looks like.
hmmmmmmmm not sure if you noticed but tmntgal has been gone for awhile...wonder where she went to...
Vaughn Michael
I just signed up, and this thread caught my eye, sorry. I didn't notice she has been gone awhile.
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