WB CEO Kevin Tsujihara Accused of Sexual Impropriety With Actress

[Leo656]

Brett Ratner is involved as well, although he himself seems to be free of any wrongdoing in this specific case.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/i-need-be-careful-texts-reveal-warner-bros-ceo-promoted-actress-apparent-sexual-relationship-1192660

This is an interesting scenario. On one hand, the overwhelming abundance of text messages pretty much prove that Tsujihara did indeed have sex with the actress in question while promising to help get her work. On the other hand, said actress was apparently an enthusiastic participant until the promised roles failed to materialize (she was apparently trying to leverage herself into playing Supergirl, at one point, using the "relationship" as a way in, and tried the same thing to get a role in Wonder Woman).

Looking at the big picture, I think she honestly comes off looking worse in this. Like yes, she was apparently manipulated and/or lied to - aren't they all? Does EVERY woman who spreads for a Hollywood big shot really convinced that they're going to be the next Angelina Jolie? - but she comes off as really aggressive and harassing, and further, as stated, she had no problem at all trading sex for work, until that work dried up. She must not be very good because I've never even heard of her. And she's pretty hot, so if she actually failed to play "the game" successfully, she must be a real shrew. As the texts escalate you can see everyone involved starts trying to distance themselves from her, way before she started threatening to get the lawyers involved. Seems like a real pain to deal with.

I'unno, interesting story. I'm with Roseanne on this one; they're fine being "Hos" until they don't get what they were promised, and THEN the guy they slept with is the villain. I think everyone's equally sh*tty in situations like this.

Anyways, he's CEO of WB and she's nobody, so this will probably go nowhere. Just caught my eye before.

[Voltron]

I'unno, interesting story. I'm with Roseanne on this one; they're fine being "Hos" until they don't get what they were promised

Well, that's the important part, isn't it? If there was an agreement, she's not wrong to be angry, is she?

This is another case of two people doing something they shouldn't be doing.

[Andrew NDB]

She's not wrong to be angry and that's an abuse of power but she's still pretty far from a saint in these matters.

Why couldn't this have been Geoff Johns...

[Leo656]

Well, that's the important part, isn't it? If there was an agreement, she's not wrong to be angry, is she?

This is another case of two people doing something they shouldn't be doing.

I agree strongly with the closing line.

I doubt there was any formal "agreement" in place, because most guys aren't stupid enough to put those kinds of "deals" in writing. It was probably more like, "So after we f*ck, you'll get me lots of big movie roles, right?" "Uhhhhh (incoherent mumbling)." And she ASSUMED they had a deal because she's never actually read a newspaper, or watched a Lifetime made-for-TV movie about exactly this kind of thing.

Sucks for her, getting "played" like that, but again, she shouldn't have been trying to leverage sexual favors for work in the first place, and also, she should be embarrassed at being so naive.

I'm very interested in hearing what Mrs. Tsujihara has to say about this situation, myself. She's the only victim I can identify in this.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm very interested in hearing what Mrs. Tsujihara has to say about this situation, myself. She's the only victim I can identify in this.

True. Now, if Tsujihara HAD awarded this actress parts based on sexual favors... then there would be other victims -- the actually qualified actresses who were passed over. But it doesn't sound like that ever happened.

[Leo656]

Yeah. Like I said, going by her picture, she's pretty hot. So if she's still a nobody like, 5 years or whatever it is later, she must be a HORRIBLE actress. Because it does say she DID get some auditions and a few meetings - which is all anyone in the texts admits to promising her - and the best she can get is a gig playing Nicole Brown-Simpson in some silly movie which posits that OJ was innocent, a movie that nobody knows or has ever heard about?

If you're willing to prostitute yourself for opportunities and you still come up empty like that, either you're a terrible actress OR you need to scrub your vag.

[Voltron]

It depends on exactly what happened in those texts. If there's evidence in there that could be construed as promising favors, then that could be considered a written agreement.

It'd be an interesting case to watch, but I doubt anything would come of it unless Tsujihara himself texted her with something damning.

[Leo656]

In reading the texts that are shown in the article itself, all the men played it very coy (wisely so). At at least one point she says to Kevin, "When we were in that hotel room having sex you said..." and he just no-sold it (Which was wise, because she was obviously setting him up to trick him into incriminating himself). And Rattner and everyone else just did the smart thing and said nothing outside of "You're lying."

Nobody said anything that could have incriminated themselves, it would appear. There's a lot of her saying, "I figured that having sex with someone would help my career", and a lot of people replying to her with, "Nobody ever said anything to give you that idea, and also, go away."

I definitely believe the incident happened, but I also have to kind of marvel at how expertly Rattner and co. were able to deflect and contain the whole thing. She seems like a real nut. I'm no fan of Hollywood scumbags, but dealing with people like her day after day, multiplied by hundreds, must get really tiresome. Even after nobody wanted to audition her - and again, they apparently did uphold their end and get her a few shots, they simply didn't turn into jobs - she kept insisting she was "owed", and her behavior goes well into "harassment" several times. "No Means No, ya dizzy broad!"

But no, all Rattner or anyone else is quoted as saying in the texts is, "All anyone promised you was that we'd get you a few auditions," and at NO point does anyone accede to it being in return for sex. And at least one time when she DID get a job, she was furious that it was "just" a two-line bit part... because she figured that she'd "earned" more than that. She legit thought she was gonna be Supergirl. Because they "owed" it to her. :roll: The "worst" thing anyone said to her was that she was incredibly ungrateful for the opportunities they'd already given her... which honestly does seem to be the case. She was promised auditions and the chance to meet powerful people in the industry. Those promises were made BEFORE any sex happened. Those promises were kept, she just couldn't get hired, probably because she's a loony-tune. She continued to rant, rave, and threaten. "Ungrateful" does seem pretty fair.

You KNOW it's a goofy story when Brett f*cking Rattner, a proven piece of human sh*t, is the most morally-scrupulous individual in the entire ordeal. :lol: BUT, he seems like the only one who didn't actually do anything wrong (THIS time). It boggles the mind.

[Andrew NDB]

Tsujihara is going bye-bye for sure. Too many billions of dollars on the line to have it risked by some crap like this. Expect to read a "mutual departure" press release in a few days. Big severance package.

[Leo656]

Perhaps. Again, no impropriety was admitted nor proven. Did it happen? Clearly, but it still has to be proven.

I could see it going as you said, but I can also see it being spun as "one lone nut telling tales about why she flunked out of Hollywood" just as easily, and the whole thing being handwaved away.

50/50 in the current political climate, though. He's a man in a position of power, being accused of exploiting an actress in exchange for sexual favors. Nevermind that she was a more than willing participant (in one text she says she enjoyed the sex), that behavior is presently extremely frowned upon (even though, as Roseanne and others have said, until 5 minutes ago this kind of "Trading Sex For Work" thing was simply called "Business As Usual"). BUT, it's only one person, who's shady as f*ck, and all she has is her word against his.

I'unno. I wouldn't mind seeing him go; selfishly, I'm very upset with him for the "Justice League" debacle. We'll see what happens.

[Voltron]

You KNOW it's a goofy story when Brett f*cking Rattner, a proven piece of human sh*t, is the most morally-scrupulous individual in the entire ordeal. :lol: BUT, he seems like the only one who didn't actually do anything wrong (THIS time). It boggles the mind.

I wouldn't go that far. Being able to manipulate a situation to your benefit is a valuable life skill, but it's rarely a moral action.

I mean, either there's only a few possible scenarios that lead to this encounter.

1. Ken Tsujihara is actually in the market for someone to love, and happened upon this lady. Unfortunately, it didn't work out and now a heart-broken Kevin must deal with the fall out along with the emotional trauma.

2. Tsujihara and Ratner insinuated that Kirk would benefit from this meeting, but it turned out her acting was atrocious and they didn't want that anchor killing their projects.

3. These guys wanted a hooker but didn't want to pay.

2 and 3 are not mutually exclusive.

[Leo656]

Tough call. Most of the texts after the very first ones seem to be Rattner trying his best to make her go away completely. The worst thing he did may have been acting as her "pimp", setting up the meeting between her and Kevin. But even then, there's a ton of plausible deniability on his end.

"She asked me to put her in touch with someone, and I did. Whatever happened afterwards had nothing to do with me." Did he know what would happen? Maybe. But he's more (IN)famous for wrangling these chicks for himself, not pimping them out to other people - and he apparently also did set her up with several people she's NOT accusing of f*cking her - so it honestly seems like in this case there wasn't much going on by way of shenanigans. He apparently didn't f*ck her himself, since she never accused him, and apparently she only f*cked one of the several people she was put into contact with, which may or may not have been mutually agreed-upon OR her entire goal from the start. Which is kinda smart on her end; F*cking the CEO of WB sure seems like a much faster way to the top than wasting time with directors and producers.

I'unno. He may have figured Kevin would f*ck her when he put her in contact with him, but he also might not have known for sure. Either way, he's still the most "innocent" party in the whole ordeal. He promises to establish connections, does so, and then spends months on end dodging texts from an increasingly-unhinged and overly-entitled hacktress. Seems like a No-Win for him. Especially if he didn't even get any. If he did, she doesn't imply that.

I hate Rattner as a person but he definitely seems like the least-scummy person of the three main "characters" in this story.

I feel bad for Kevin's wife. How embarrassing. I mean, some rich wives don't care about their husband's infidelities as long as the money's there, so maybe she doesn't really care, I don't know. But it still has to be kind of humiliating to see stuff like this in the headlines. I wonder if she'll file for divorce, or just write it off as "Boys will be boys"?

[Leo656]

https://screenrant.com/warner-bros-kevin-tsujihara-misconduct-investigation-response/

"I did it, but I'm sorry."

Investigation ongoing, no real indication that he's on his way out the door, though.

[ZariusTwo]

And he's outta here

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-kevin-tsujihara-exit-as-studio-chief-1054951

[Andrew NDB]

Tsujihara is going bye-bye for sure. Too many billions of dollars on the line to have it risked by some crap like this. Expect to read a "mutual departure" press release in a few days. Big severance package.

And he's outta here

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-kevin-tsujihara-exit-as-studio-chief-1054951

I totally called it. "It's of mutual interest, blah blah blah."

[Leo656]

You sure did! Good for you, buddy.

[Papenbrook]

As he should ...

He should get punished for his actions.

[Sumac]

As he should ...

He should get punished for his actions.
I wish I was punished by receiving nice severance package...:lol:

[Coola Yagami]

Honestly.... if she chose to whore herself out... well, that's too bad. I kinda every judge that ever heard such a case should just end it then and there the moment 'she slept with him because.....' comes up. It's not sexual harassment of any kind of if she chose to sleep with the guy, regardless of the reason.

[Leo656]

True, but just like "inappropriate" relationships between teachers and students, even if there's informed consent on both sides and a thorough understanding about what exactly the "relationship" is, there's an inherent power dynamic that the "senior party" is automatically wrong for exploiting. It's tough to ignore that.

I do agree though that when the woman enters into the situation with full awareness and understanding, that perhaps the repercussions towards the male associate needn't be overly excessive.

This guy not being CEO of WB is ultimately best for everyone, though, so hey, whatever it takes.

[Prowler]

True, but just like "inappropriate" relationships between teachers and students, even if there's informed consent on both sides and a thorough understanding about what exactly the "relationship" is, there's an inherent power dynamic that the "senior party" is automatically wrong for exploiting. It's tough to ignore that.

I do agree though that when the woman enters into the situation with full awareness and understanding, that perhaps the repercussions towards the male associate needn't be overly excessive.

This guy not being CEO of WB is ultimately best for everyone, though, so hey, whatever it takes.
I've only heard of one case of a teacher and student relationship, but it was already in university, so both parties were adults. That being said, the professor was old enough to be her father already. But could have just been a rumour, who knows. Sometimes people suspect a good looking girl only has good grades on a certain class because the professor is an old pervert. I did notice a couple of my older male professors were more likely to screw over male students in their grades than the female ones. One of them even made a lot of embarrassingly bad dad jokes whenever he talked with decent looking female students.

So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if some male professors would be willing to do that. Or giving a female student's essay a slightly higher grade just because they liked their cleavage or something. It would be hard for someone to prove the grade was unfair, especially in a humanities related class or a literature sort of class where there's not always a right or wrong answer. And it's not like the student would ever complain about getting a good grade, anyway, let alone question it.

[Leo656]

I've only heard of one case of a teacher and student relationship, but it was already in university, so both parties were adults.

Really? Happens over here eeeeeevery day. Mostly in high schools, but occasionally junior high as well.

It's usually a smoking hot female teacher and a 13/14-year old boy. Sometimes not, but predominantly. Seriously, almost every single day when I check the news there's another chick's mugshot. And they're always married, too.

I'm sure all of that says something about something, but what exactly I can't tell you.

[Andrew NDB]

Really? Happens over here eeeeeevery day. Mostly in high schools, but occasionally junior high as well.

It's usually a smoking hot female teacher and a 13/14-year old boy. Sometimes not, but predominantly. Seriously, almost every single day when I check the news there's another chick's mugshot. And they're always married, too.

I'm sure all of that says something about something, but what exactly I can't tell you.

Is this getting back to your "reasons why not to get married" deal?

Like, "She might try to kill when she hits menopause... and on the way to that, hell, she just might screw a couple students, too!"?

[Papenbrook]

True, but just like "inappropriate" relationships between teachers and students, even if there's informed consent on both sides and a thorough understanding about what exactly the "relationship" is, there's an inherent power dynamic that the "senior party" is automatically wrong for exploiting. It's tough to ignore that.

I do agree though that when the woman enters into the situation with full awareness and understanding, that perhaps the repercussions towards the male associate needn't be overly excessive.

This guy not being CEO of WB is ultimately best for everyone, though, so hey, whatever it takes.


Yes, Leo. All of this is true.

[Leo656]

Is this getting back to your "reasons why not to get married" deal?

Like, "She might try to kill when she hits menopause... and on the way to that, hell, she just might screw a couple students, too!"?

Nah man, as usual, I just Observe and Report.

There's a FEW occasions where it's a guy teacher and a female student - this actually quite infamously happened at my high school two years before I graduated - but it's 99% of the time a female teacher, usually under 35, and always smoking goddamn hot. I'unno where they find these broads nowadays; I encountered a grand total of no more than 5 or 6 teachers who could be considered "Hot" between Kindergarten and Grade 12, and the rest all looked like either librarians or construction workers. Nowadays it's like they hire these hens out of the Abercrombie & Fitch catalog. I assume it's to keep kids showing up, but I'unno.

Anyway, at my school it was a big deal because the girl's family owned a very famous local bakery, and the science teacher was a married man. At the start of the school year, the girl told ALL her friends that one way or the other she was gonna screw the teacher, and sure enough, about halfway through the year, one of my friends had detention, and on his way back from getting a drink from the fountain, he passed by the Labs and through the window he saw the teacher bending the girl over one of the lab tables and giving her some serious business. He didn't so much "report" it, as much as he couldn't contain himself when he got back to detention, busting up laughing and loudly declaring, "Yooooo, I just seen Mr. _____ banging Sara on one'a the lab tables!" when asked what was so funny.

The girl was sent home for part of the year to let the "heat" die down, but the teacher lost his job and ended up working at a grocery store after his wife left him. Some of the students tried to advocate for him, because he was a rather popular teacher and to be honest, the girl rather aggressively threw herself at him with persistence, and was openly telling people she wasn't gonna take "No" for an answer (she was a bit of a coked-up space case, her own self, but she WAS pretty damn hot), but Rules Is Rules and all that, so he had to go.

So that's the one instance I know of where it was a male teacher and female student, and I know for a fact that it does happen that way once in a while, but according to the news, it happens more often the other way. I don't necessarily see any "agenda" at work, other than women are much more promiscuous (and come up with more reasons to justify cheating on their spouse or partner) than men are, statistically. A few times it's even been a female teacher AND student caught in the act together; maybe in that case the husband just didn't know his wife swung both ways? I don't know.

Could be that women secretly lust after "forbidden fruit" just as much as a lot of men do, but that it's more "Societally Acceptable" for an older woman to deflower a younger male, so they're more willing to act on it. That kinda makes sense; most of these female teachers just pay a fine and aren't allowed to teach anymore, but that's the end of it. When it's a guy, you have everyone screaming about cutting his dick off and he pretty much has to either become a hermit or kill himself. As I've said before, when you know the stakes aren't so high, you're more willing to take risks on doing Bad Things.

Why 99% of the teachers caught banging students are young, hot women, I really don't know, I can only analyze the data and speculate from there. I just know that it happens often enough that I'd never date anyone who wanted to be a teacher. Just to be safe. Plus, I lost my cherry at 14 to a 36-year old (not a teacher, though), so I can say with full authority that Bitches Be Crazy just in general. That much I know, but it's about ALL I know.

[Prowler]

Really? Happens over here eeeeeevery day. Mostly in high schools, but occasionally junior high as well.

It's usually a smoking hot female teacher and a 13/14-year old boy. Sometimes not, but predominantly. Seriously, almost every single day when I check the news there's another chick's mugshot. And they're always married, too.

I'm sure all of that says something about something, but what exactly I can't tell you.
Well USA has over 300M people, so I guess it's a matter of maths? :P

Nah man, as usual, I just Observe and Report.

There's a FEW occasions where it's a guy teacher and a female student - this actually quite infamously happened at my high school two years before I graduated - but it's 99% of the time a female teacher, usually under 35, and always smoking goddamn hot. I'unno where they find these broads nowadays; I encountered a grand total of no more than 5 or 6 teachers who could be considered "Hot" between Kindergarten and Grade 12, and the rest all looked like either librarians or construction workers. Nowadays it's like they hire these hens out of the Abercrombie & Fitch catalog. I assume it's to keep kids showing up, but I'unno.

Anyway, at my school it was a big deal because the girl's family owned a very famous local bakery, and the science teacher was a married man. At the start of the school year, the girl told ALL her friends that one way or the other she was gonna screw the teacher, and sure enough, about halfway through the year, one of my friends had detention, and on his way back from getting a drink from the fountain, he passed by the Labs and through the window he saw the teacher bending the girl over one of the lab tables and giving her some serious business. He didn't so much "report" it, as much as he couldn't contain himself when he got back to detention, busting up laughing and loudly declaring, "Yooooo, I just seen Mr. _____ banging Sara on one'a the lab tables!" when asked what was so funny.

The girl was sent home for part of the year to let the "heat" die down, but the teacher lost his job and ended up working at a grocery store after his wife left him. Some of the students tried to advocate for him, because he was a rather popular teacher and to be honest, the girl rather aggressively threw herself at him with persistence, and was openly telling people she wasn't gonna take "No" for an answer (she was a bit of a coked-up space case, her own self, but she WAS pretty damn hot), but Rules Is Rules and all that, so he had to go.

So that's the one instance I know of where it was a male teacher and female student, and I know for a fact that it does happen that way once in a while, but according to the news, it happens more often the other way. I don't necessarily see any "agenda" at work, other than women are much more promiscuous (and come up with more reasons to justify cheating on their spouse or partner) than men are, statistically. A few times it's even been a female teacher AND student caught in the act together; maybe in that case the husband just didn't know his wife swung both ways? I don't know.

Could be that women secretly lust after "forbidden fruit" just as much as a lot of men do, but that it's more "Societally Acceptable" for an older woman to deflower a younger male, so they're more willing to act on it. That kinda makes sense; most of these female teachers just pay a fine and aren't allowed to teach anymore, but that's the end of it. When it's a guy, you have everyone screaming about cutting his dick off and he pretty much has to either become a hermit or kill himself. As I've said before, when you know the stakes aren't so high, you're more willing to take risks on doing Bad Things.

Why 99% of the teachers caught banging students are young, hot women, I really don't know, I can only analyze the data and speculate from there. I just know that it happens often enough that I'd never date anyone who wanted to be a teacher. Just to be safe. Plus, I lost my cherry at 14 to a 36-year old (not a teacher, though), so I can say with full authority that Bitches Be Crazy just in general. That much I know, but it's about ALL I know.
I had about a couple of female teachers I'd consider hot in all of my student life. I dunno if it's a coincidence or not, but they were both language students. English and German. The rest of the female teachers I had in my life were either old or really average looking.

My mother was a teacher. Afaik she was a normal person, I hope :lol:. My father was a teacher too, btw.

[Leo656]

MY 6th Grade Language Arts teacher was smoking hot. Ditto for the Art teacher. They were very good friends, oddly enough. We all used to joke they were secretly "fooling around", although both of them were married.

I was in a play in 7th Grade, and the entire cast and crew got to go to a big pool party at the Art teacher's house (she'd married the Music teacher, who co-produced the play). Seeing Mrs. P and Mrs. M in bathing suits (one of them was rocking a TINY little blue string bikini) was about all any of the guys could talk about for the rest of the time we were at that school. :lol:

I probably flirted with both of them way more than was appropriate, but they didn't seem to mind.

There were a few hot teachers in my high school, but sadly I never got to have class with any of them. One of them was a SMOKING first-year teacher who taught Bio, but I only knew her well because she was a "lifting buddy" who went to the weight room every day after school. She was a big Metallica fan, so we had that in common. We used to catch her "checking out" the guys while they were lifting (even me, I was told :lol:), and she often didn't wear a bra with her tank top, and it was very easy to see down her shirt, so that was fun. Small titties, but whatever, still nice. I flirted with her pretty shamelessly, but to be fair, we all did.

She eventually married one of the other teachers and "retired" from teaching. Word going around was her husband insisted upon it, since everyone so openly lusted after her (and he probably didn't wanna take any chances, anyway). So now she's a nurse. She also had a boob job. :lol: Still looks great, I see her on FB sometimes because her husband is friends with one of my other teachers who I still talk to.

There were a couple of other hot teachers in my high school, but I only ever saw them passing by in the halls or in the cafeteria. There was one, who whenever she'd walk by the lunch table where me and my buddies sat and say Hello to us, we'd all slam our fists into the underside of the table in unison (as if our boners were hitting the wood), and she'd just go "What was that?", totally oblivious. :lol: I think her name was "Leneskie", or something like that, and when it was really loud in the cafeteria some of the kids would call her "Mrs. Molest-Me" to her face because she couldn't hear it over all the noise. :lol:

Good Times. I miss High School.

[snake]

I've never had a hot teacher, in fact- all my teachers have been some of the most unattractive people I've ever had the misfortune of looking at sans myself.

Okay, there was one teacher in her early 20s who used to work at my school who was pretty cute, but she was there for a short period of time, and I never had her- so she doesn't count.