Celebrities you are dissapointed got 'woke' [Archive]

Vegita-San

03-22-2019, 02:37 PM

So, I enjoy Mystery Science Theater 3,000.

I like it's goofiness. I like that they clearly arn't trying too hard,while still wanting to put out a good product. and it makes me laugh.

But it's pretty clear that most of the cast is of the 'woke' generation.

I finally decided to give up the Mads podcast. after not listening to it for a while, I decided to click on their captain marvel link, and what do I hear within the first 5 minutes? 'incel', 'm***********' 'female lead movie'....and all the other SJW buzzwords that just give me eye rolls these days.

I also know the mads have worked with people like paul feig and are, for whatever reason, big fans of his and his 'work'. and, for my own sake, I figured it was probably safer to unfollow their podcast so it doesn't sully the memories of their funnier MST3K work.

I also know that Bill Corbet and Kevin Murphy are of the same ilk, but they are no where near as brazen ad frank and dr.forrester are in their hatred for the straight white male generation that has opinions. just looking at frank's twitter alone is sad.

are you able to seperate the performer from their political opinion? or have you had to stop following people because they are just getting too goofy for you?

neatoman

03-22-2019, 02:58 PM

Depends on wheter or not their work got annoying because of it. James Gunn is "woke" but that seems to have very little to do with the GotG movies. JK Rowling is """""woke""""" but the only way that impacts her work is through statements about the canon and not the her work itself (which got bad for other reasons). Then there's Bill Nye who not only allowed his work to get "woke" but it got "woke" in such a tone deaf, cringeworthy, out of touch manner that it's actually hard to watch, just take a look.

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Of course, then you have people like Aaron McGruder who is "woke" and it's reflected in his work but still makes very entertaining stuff. The Boondocks is essentially about identity politics without being cringeworthy and actually managing to be thoughtful. It's arguably one of the best TV shows ever made.

Prowler

03-22-2019, 03:18 PM

OP, you shouldn't care as much about what they think as you seem to in your post.

I really don't care for any of this "woke" thing or whatever.

Anyway, I'm usually good at separating the art from the artist but I wouldn't say I can do it 100% effectively all the time. I don't think anyone can.

Candy Kappa

03-22-2019, 03:27 PM

OP, you shouldn't care as much about what they think as you seem to in your post.

Women and the "woke" probably keep vegita up at night

FredWolfLeonardo

03-22-2019, 03:35 PM

Prowler

03-22-2019, 03:37 PM

I love lots of shows and movies, even if the cast are people who I wouldn't like in real life.

I love art, and absolutely don't care about the artists since I don't know any personally.

Its like me refusing to drive on my road because I found that it was built by a criminal.
Tbh I don't even know what most celebs think about politics, religion, etc. Just like I listen to a lo of music but can't even name the members of about 80% of the bands I listen to. I only know and remember the band members from bigger bands like the Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer, etc.

Wesley

03-22-2019, 03:40 PM

Candy Kappa

03-22-2019, 03:41 PM

Alice Cooper being a born again christian is... not disappointing but weird, like finding out santa is Your dad kinda weird

Andrew NDB

03-25-2019, 12:43 AM

I try to not get too "disappointed" in any celebrities. Otherwise I'd not be able to watch, say, Tom Cruise, Robert DeNiro and Joss Whedon movies/TV shows anymore. And I like to watch Tom Cruise, Robert DeNiro and Joss Whedon movies/TV shows.

Conversely, when I see celebrities piping stuff that I agree with, I admit it does makes me enjoy seeing them on screen a little bit more and root for them. But I think this is just human nature.

snake

03-25-2019, 12:52 AM

Women and the "woke" probably keep vegita up at night

Trying to find the right balance between "tastefully endowed" and "suspiciously busty" on his 3D model of April is what keeps Vegita-San up at night.

Sumac

03-25-2019, 02:47 AM

I don't care about celebrities views on the politics and the like.

I don't want those aspects to get in the way of my enjoyment of their work and, besides, it's not like they can't support certain things, only when it benefits them.

All in all, they are merely people who can make mistakes, so I could care less.

Roseangelo

03-25-2019, 11:20 AM

I find myself really concerned with the use of the word “woke” by anyone.

Andrew NDB

03-25-2019, 11:36 AM

I find myself really concerned with the use of the word “woke” by anyone.

Kind of like "triggered," I don't mind it if it's used ironically or as another way of illustrating the SJW-ness of a thing.

Though, to be fair, I hate seeing these kind of words used as weapons. Because that's what liberals do. They create words, or change words and terms, to simultaneously weaponize them against people of a different mind and insulate themselves from discourse. Stuff like "edge lord" or how "sexual reassignment surgery" quietly became "gender confirmation surgery."

BartAllen

03-25-2019, 11:53 AM

Kind of like "triggered," I don't mind it if it's used ironically or as another way of illustrating the SJW-ness of a thing.

Though, to be fair, I hate seeing these kind of words used as weapons. Because that's what liberals do. They create words, or change words and terms, to simultaneously weaponize them against people of a different mind and insulate themselves from discourse. Stuff like "edge lord" or how "sexual reassignment surgery" quietly became "gender confirmation surgery."
What's worse is the right is now adopting a lot of those idiotic sophist arguments.

Candy Kappa

03-25-2019, 12:29 PM

Trying to find the right balance between "tastefully endowed" and "suspiciously busty" on his 3D model of April is what keeps Vegita-San up at night.

Now I'm just imaging this

https://media.giphy.com/media/ohdY5OaQmUmVW/giphy.gif

IndigoErth

03-25-2019, 03:19 PM

Other than having an opinion when someone does something stupid that ends up in the news (or is annoying in a Turtles film/series if that is the case -- looking at you Not-April Fox), I generally could not care less what celebrities do or think anymore and gave up giving a damn years ago. And this whole "woke" nonsense is likewise too dumb to care about; why do we need to come up with new names for social opinions, etc.

I didn't see any issue with Mystery Science Theater...? Or is it not an issue with the actual series? I liked the new ones they produced for Netflix, but I have largely taken to fast forwarding though everything that isn't the movie viewing/commentary; esp in the old ones they put up.

If there's anything there to be "woke" about it's some of the stuff in some of the older films make it apparent how times have changed for the better.

They create words, or change words and terms, to simultaneously weaponize them against people of a different mind and insulate themselves from discourse.
Pot, meet... well, the whole matching set of cookware.

Vegita-San

03-25-2019, 06:08 PM

I didn't see any issue with Mystery Science Theater...? Or is it not an issue with the actual series? I liked the new ones they produced for Netflix, but I have largely taken to fast forwarding though everything that isn't the movie viewing/commentary; esp in the old ones they put up.

nope, it's an issue with the performers. 'TV's frank' has gone full on hollywood/woke mode. his compatriot, Trace B is the same way, but I feel he hasn't hit the full threshold yet like frank has...

Autbot_Benz

03-25-2019, 07:13 PM

Women and the "woke" probably keep vegita up at night

Obligatory time to break out my vegita-san gif

https://i.imgur.com/0RVjZPj.gif

Leo656

03-25-2019, 07:17 PM

Where's the gif for people who aren't "scared" of 'em but just plain don't like 'em? :trazz:

Autbot_Benz

03-25-2019, 07:22 PM

Where's the gif for people who aren't "scared" of 'em but just plain don't like 'em? :trazz:

I haven't found that one yet

Voltron

03-25-2019, 07:39 PM

https://i.imgur.com/9yryX.gif

Got you covered guys.

Leo656

03-25-2019, 07:42 PM

:lol::lol::lol: That was just on last night.

Incidentally, one of my wife's favorite episodes. :lol: What a weirdo!

IndigoErth

03-25-2019, 10:01 PM

Where's the gif for people who aren't "scared" of 'em but just plain don't like 'em? :trazz:
Hmph. Thought we were friends.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/e9/62/8ee962040204dda74218e7d69ea55ce2.gif

Leo656

03-25-2019, 10:26 PM

Well we definitely are now, since you saw fit to cater to my Tinker Belle fetish. :tgrin:

All jokes aside, you know you're one'a my favorites. Remember that time I got in trouble because I didn't like how someone was talkin' to you, got Way Too Mad about it and said some dumb stuff? That came from a place of genuine sincerity. You always have something worthwhile to contribute, you avoid Shenanigans, and never stoop to anyone's level. Without making a List, you are by far one of my favorite people here and I would probably not still be around here if you weren't. :)
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I've said this before: Individually, I get along much better with women than I do with most men, and those women are some of the best people I know.

Collectively, too many of 'em are Bad People just like anyone else, but they often get a "pass" because they're female, which I don't like. I think for things to be truly "equal", women should be called out on their bad behavior just as much as men should. Not everyone agrees with that, and it bothers me.

But yeah, no, individually, one-on-one, to a person, some of them are absolutely Terrific Human Beings. Case In Point.

sdp

03-25-2019, 11:23 PM

Snowflake!
I'm not the snowflake, you're the snowflake.
Nah ah, you're the snowflake, snowflake.

Roseangelo

03-26-2019, 12:42 AM

nope, it's an issue with the performers. 'TV's frank' has gone full on hollywood/woke mode. his compatriot, Trace B is the same way, but I feel he hasn't hit the full threshold yet like frank has...

WTF does this even mean. A celebrity doesn't share the same opinions as you, so you're having an Internet tantrum?

Andrew NDB

03-26-2019, 12:51 AM

WTF does this even mean. A celebrity doesn't share the same opinions as you, so you're having an Internet tantrum?

I'm a little lost too, myself, honestly. Clarify, V?

Voltron

03-26-2019, 12:58 AM

You know, one reason I tried my damnedest to get off Facebook was because it amplified the nuttiness of today's political discussions.

The world has always been in constant state of flux. What's popular today won't be tomorrow. Tomorrow's trend will fade the day after that. Raging because someone with a platform insulted your world view is a waste of energy. Why even bother?

There's a lot of issues people bring up that, despite being outlandish in their suppositions, warrant a discussion. This isn't one of them. No one is going to get hurt because someone on a podcast supports BLM or wants to see more women in Congress. Any person on the street can hold that opinion. Why do we have to insist celebrities be that politically sterile?

Come back when Congress is discussing taking your guns or forcing you to gay marry a dog or whatever else we lose our bananas over anymore.

snake

03-26-2019, 01:16 AM

I think the issue for a lot of people is when celebrities start saying dumb sh*t, but really- isn’t that what they’ve always done? They’re basically in a world of their own, and you expect them to have informed, sound political opinions? Ok, chief.

It doesn’t bother me personally, as I practice the art of seperating the art from the artist.

Andrew NDB

03-26-2019, 01:33 AM

The only time my ears perk up is when I see stuff anywhere (clickbait, largely) that's like, "Hey! You need to listen! Anne Hathaway/Jennifer Lawrence is saying this thing about politics, and we should all listen!"

No, we don't. We really don't. She's an actor. An activist by hobby, parlaying her actual trade and hopefully her fanbase into... their activism. Vacuously, largely.

snake

03-26-2019, 01:35 AM

The sad thing is that there’s people who will buy into whatever they’re saying just because they’re saying it.

Andrew NDB

03-26-2019, 01:37 AM

The sad thing is that there’s people who will buy into whatever they’re saying just because they’re saying it.

Yeah, I see the shares of Jennifer Lawrence and Anne Hathaway stuff, or stuff like them with like actresses and actors everyday. And the corresponding thumbs ups. And from a lot of the replies to the responses, it honestly seems like the people posting and reposting them don't even watch them first.

Spreading propaganda like spores/pollen in the air.

Wildcat

03-26-2019, 01:39 AM

Ooh the dreaded Unfollow...that’ll show’em.

Seriously the whole Woke/PC thing is being blown of proportion...by those who are against it. Nobody really has an agenda or whatever you think just because they’re supporting equality.

There’s those who take politics too far but that’s how it’s always been. This is not the point though and different subject.

Anyone else watch the newest Simpsons? Itchy and Scratchy get an all-female reboot. It was a pretty good episode. I think it did a good job showing how ridiculous both sides of this whole argument has been. Sadly not that far off.

OP is like Milhouse and B.R.A. :lol:

IndigoErth

03-26-2019, 05:56 PM