Notre Dame on Fire

[Utrommaniac]

Uh yeah, this tragedy of history, architecture, religion, and literature is happening.

Started during renovation. The roof has completely collapsed and the spire is gone.

So far there are no casualties, and arson is very unlikely.

[Andrew NDB]

Started during renovation.

Ironic, really.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Has it ever been on fire before?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Did Quasimodo manage to get Esmerelda out of there before the blaze started?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Did Quasimodo manage to get Esmerelda out of there before the blaze started?

No, this is real life, where people like Frollo are the victors.

Life ain't a Disney movie.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

No, this is real life, where people like Frollo are the victors.

Life ain't a Disney movie.

Says YOU, sir. I'm still waiting in my enchanted tower for a dashing princess to come sweep me off my feet and solve all my problems with her magic animal friends.

[Andrew NDB]

Did Quasimodo manage to get Esmerelda out of there before the blaze started?

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[Garnet]

Has it ever been on fire before?

I think it's the first time : the framework of the roof was from the XIIIth century (very good wood but very inflammable), so …

From a french point of view what is ironic is that tonight our president should have made an adress concluding the "Great Debate", a debate organised to calm down the yellow vests movement (I don't know if people know about it). For four monthes, every saturday, there were protest marches, pallets on traffic circles here and there in France, even some stuff burnt on the Champs Elysées, it's going to cost some money, and now … How would you say that in English ? We hit the jackpot ?

[MikeandRaph87]

It looks like it will be a total loss. History died today.

Here is the live feed that I have had on since I was notified an hour and a half ago.
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One good thing is no one was there and no human lives will be lost.

[CyberCubed]

Didn't I see this movie before? I guess it's true what they say, sometimes life imitates art. Or truth is stranger than fiction. The irony.

[IndigoErth]

Wow, that is tragic given its age.

[Voltron]

What an absolute tragedy. It's such an iconic piece of Parisian, French, and even world history. I've always wanted to see it. Thank goodness they managed to save the structure. Hopefully the renovations are quick. I'd love to see it before I kick the bucket.

[triplexxx]

First the National Museum of Brazil, now Notre Dame de Paris, no casualties in either, but a lot of history engulfed, may be a message, or may be even a "Shining", something from the past come back to haunt the present, these places did have a long past.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

This is tragic. So much history, up in flames. It survived both world wars, even with bombing, and this is how it ends.... So terrible. It's fortunate no lives were lost, and hopefully it can be rebuilt.

[ranger_scout]

When I read this in the news, it really broke my heart.:cry:

[Papenbrook]

I'm glad that no one was injured or killed.

But still, this is such a historical loss for France. Hopefully, most of it can be repaired.

[MikeandRaph87]

I heard on the radio on the way home from work that 7 billion had been pledged by French billionaires and the cathedral is sparred, but has betwern 10 to 15 years of repairs ahead of it.

[Barkworm]

This thread was cleaned of the arguments.

[Redeemer]

This thread was cleaned of the arguments.

Thanks, good job. Can someone post GIF of a brush or something :lol:


Anyway there is someone good news. They have raised 600 million euros for the restoration effort. Id imagine that is would not cost more than a few hundred million, but I could very well be wrong.

I also wondered what even caused the fire? Has there been any news or report on that front?

[Garnet]

Thank you Barkworm, the gesture is appreciated.

It seems we will never know what really happened. For the restoration site of the spire, electric tools, alarms, and other temporary electrical installations were needed. It's certainly an accident : it's not the first time a historical building suffers fire during restoration work.

But in order to know exactly what happened, investigators have to find clues in the debris. It will take a long time, and since the fire was so violent, there is little hope : clues are certainly destroyed. We won't even learn from the mistake that was made so that it never happens again.

I'm happy that the organs can be saved. I don't think it's possible to build an exact replica of that kind of instrument.

[Redeemer]

Thank you Barkworm, the gesture is appreciated.

It seems we will never know what really happened. For the restoration site of the spire, electric tools, alarms, and other temporary electrical installations were needed. It's certainly an accident : it's not the first time a historical building suffers fire during restoration work.

But in order to know exactly what happened, investigators have to find clues in the debris. It will take a long time, and since the fire was so violent, there is little hope : clues are certainly destroyed. We won't even learn from the mistake that was made so that it never happens again.

I'm happy that the organs can be saved. I don't think it's possible to build an exact replica of that kind of instrument.

I am fairly confident that they will be able to find out what caused the fire eventually. I believe they use burn patterns and chemicals devices to determine where the fire started and if an accelerant was used.(Not saying there was!) Bust just an example of a few techniques I know they use. But maybe ur right, maybe they won't know the exact source, but I am hoping they will get fairly close at least.

I am now waiting for the conspiracy theorist to come out and claim that the fire was staged to raise funds.....

[Garnet]

You're right, maybe it's not that hopeless. I just heard on the radio that there are suspicions about the elevators of the restoration site.

Conspiracy … Ah, it just shows how strained the atmosphere is nowadays. :ohwell:

[ProactiveMan]

Arson forensics is pretty crap, so we may never know for sure. My money is on carelessness.

[Klunk1234]

No, this is real life, where people like Frollo are the victors.

Life ain't a Disney movie.

Do you think is only a Disney movie? The Hunchback of Notre-Dame was written by French author Víctor Hugo in 1831 Because the cathedral was about to be demolished and thanks to the novel became that historic monument that is I is today. There multiple films about the novel in 1905, 1911, 1917, 1922, 1923, 1939, 1956, 1986, the 1996 Disney animated film, three undated animated films and a 1999 parody film.

The cathedral will be restored.

[Klunk1234]

Arson forensics is pretty crap, so we may never know for sure. My money is on carelessness.

I'm not convinced it was an accident. It started after the last person left the church. And Macron seemed to be so calm during his speech to the nation. He is a Muslim (from Middle East and Africa) lover. He could not contribute l the protests done by the Yellow vests group.