Disney+ "Willow" sequel series

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently it could be a thing!

http://www.darkhorizons.com/disney-plans-a-willow-sequel-series/

[ProactiveMan]

Is fairy magic strong enough to hide Madmartigan's spare tyre?

[TheBlueTurtle1]

With how things are today, do you really want sequels and reboots to things you like? All these reboots are butchering the originals.:x

[drgon78]

Would have been nice if they did this 20+ years ago.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Would have been nice if they did this 20+ years ago.

Yes, before the PC culture.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I wonder if it will follow the books.

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder if it will follow the books.

Like "Shadow Moon" and all that? I remember those. The ones supposedly co-written by George Lucas?

No, it sounds like they'd go with a much bigger Willow presence than in those, where he was barely a footnote/cameo.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Actually, he had quite a big presence in the books as well, since in one of them Madmartigan and Sorcha (sp?) had literally disappeared amid a crater where their castle used to be. IIRC, a large part of that book revolved around a teenaged Elora (who apparently became something of a brat) searching for him, albeit unwillingly.

[Andrew NDB]

It IS happening.

https://www.slashfilm.com/willow-tv-series/

[Roseangelo]

Wow, I didn't realize rumors for this were so old. Saw the news today and am very excited about the potential!

[Andrew NDB]

Casting continues:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/tony-revolori-joins-the-willow-series/

[Andrew NDB]

Jon Entwhistle directing the pilot:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/jon-entwhistle-to-helm-willow-series/

[Andrew NDB]

Meet the cast:

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[MsMarvelDuckie]

Warwick Davis is looking his age.

[Andrew NDB]

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[Coola Yagami]

But of course.

[oldmanwinters]

Is there nothing left to stay in the 80s?

At what point are we getting a full reboot to The NeverEnding Story? [Yeah, I know it already got two sequels in the 90s]

[Andrew NDB]

I'd kind of expect it to be female led to a certain extent because it's 30 years later and Elora Danan should be a huge deal by now. And of course the show should revolve around Elora Danan.

At what point are we getting a full reboot to The NeverEnding Story?

Would a "30 years later" take on that be so bad? Bastian returning to Fantasia. Make it sort of like "Hook." Use the same practical effects as the original movie.

[Yeah, I know it already got two sequels in the 90s]

One halfway decent sequel and then some weird lame sh**.

[oldmanwinters]

Would a "30 years later" take on that be so bad? Bastian returning to Fantasia. Make it sort of like "Hook." Use the same practical effects as the original movie.


Ok, I guess you sold me on it. Do I need to pledge on Kickstarter? :tlol:

[Andrew NDB]

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[Andrew NDB]

Val Kilmer WILL be in it.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/kilmer-has-presence-in-willow-series/

[Coola Yagami]

That's impossible. He's a straight white man.

[Leo656]

I seen the first Top Gun, he ain't THAT straight. :lol:

[superstaff]

Val Kilmer is a cool guy.

I spoke to him on Reddit years ago when he had an account there, and we talked about Batman Forever. That's probably the only time I've ever talked to a celebrity (unless the account was run by a handler, though it really seemed like it was actually him to me, who knows), and it was mostly just me shooting the breeze like he was someone on the Technodrome Forum. :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

That's impossible. He's a straight white man.

No no, he's disabled now. So of course he's welcomed into the diversity coalition. They'd like it more if he was in a wheelchair and/or blind, but this will work for them.

[Coola Yagami]

No no, he's disabled now. So of course he's welcomed into the diversity coalition. They'd like it more if he was in a wheelchair and/or blind, but this will work for them.

Disabled how? What happened to him???

[Andrew NDB]

Disabled how? What happened to him???

Can't speak, really. All messed up from cancer and cancer surgery.

[Coola Yagami]

Can't speak, really. All messed up from cancer and cancer surgery.

Oh damn. WTF.... I mean... I guess at least he's somehow still getting work....?

[Andrew NDB]

Oh damn. WTF.... I mean... I guess at least he's somehow still getting work....?

For sure. He's doing as much as he can right now.

Also, if you have Amazon Prime there's a nice autobiographical doc he did all about himself over the years. It's interesting. This is a guy that had the world by the balls for a long time, yet is still so humble.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Looks terrible, reminds me of a cheap stage play lol:lol:

[Andrew NDB]

What they did with Willow's hair is a little dodgy... but I was actually super impressed with everything else.

[NinjaPug]

Looked better than Amazon’s LOTR show that probably had double the budget

[Andrew NDB]

After rewatching Willow with my daughter (which, eh, didn't go as bad as I thought it might) and another closer look at that trailer... Bavmorda is clearly IN the trailer (at 0:13 and 0:32), and fine. I'd forgot that Bavmorda's "death" in the original movie is basically just her swooshing out of the room as energy. Hardly a conclusive end.

Oh, and also there's clearly the beginning of lesbian kiss at 1:01. Very important that a Willow sequel have that in it.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Oh, and also there's clearly the beginning of lesbian kiss at 1:01. Very important that a Willow sequel have that in it.

Of course. How else are they gonna reel in a male audience? Guys really like watching two women kiss. (Or at least that’s what I read).

[Andrew NDB]

So it's out. And oh, dear...

https://cosmicbook.news/fans-not-happy-with-disney-plus-willow-series?fbclid=IwAR2EeeI7xbKHed7WB2tgwsszI5s-7UJ-RFkcR1LoCCcE2ztNsclEkZQDFTo

“The big surprise of Disney’s Willow show: queer romance is front and center, a decision creator Jonathan Kasdan says was ‘just organic’ to creating the sequel.'”

"This was completely unwatchable. I lasted about 15mins.. but husband (a big fan of the original as a kid) insisted we keep trying.. 20 mins was enough even for him. This show is another great example of not a single character being a fun and good person that you want to hang about with. The two main girls, are insurable, not Galadriel level, but darn close. The scene where she is at a call to meet her appropriately weaselly new husband and has a tantrum is one of the worst scenes I have sat through in a long time, and there has been some shockingly bad moments in tv and film this year. This show is absolute drivel. What a pathetic waste of the IP. Ready, get set…. terrible."

[Cowabung-Gal]

I lasted about 15mins.. but husband (a big fan of the original as a kid) insisted we keep trying.. 20 mins was enough even for him.

:lol:

Kinda like me and IDW TMNT after #100.

[Coola Yagami]

So it's out. And oh, dear...

https://cosmicbook.news/fans-not-happy-with-disney-plus-willow-series?fbclid=IwAR2EeeI7xbKHed7WB2tgwsszI5s-7UJ-RFkcR1LoCCcE2ztNsclEkZQDFTo

“The big surprise of Disney’s Willow show: queer romance is front and center, a decision creator Jonathan Kasdan says was ‘just organic’ to creating the sequel.'”

"This was completely unwatchable. I lasted about 15mins.. but husband (a big fan of the original as a kid) insisted we keep trying.. 20 mins was enough even for him. This show is another great example of not a single character being a fun and good person that you want to hang about with. The two main girls, are insurable, not Galadriel level, but darn close. The scene where she is at a call to meet her appropriately weaselly new husband and has a tantrum is one of the worst scenes I have sat through in a long time, and there has been some shockingly bad moments in tv and film this year. This show is absolute drivel. What a pathetic waste of the IP. Ready, get set…. terrible."

They just can't help themselves. Everything has to be 'front and center'. It can't just be a casual thing in the background, even though I'm 99.9% sure no one was gay in the original Willow. Sheesh.

[Cowabung-Gal]

They just can't help themselves. Everything has to be 'front and center'. It can't just be a casual thing in the background, even though I'm 99.9% sure no one was gay in the original Willow. Sheesh.

Well, Raziel and Bavmorda did give off that “old married couple” vibe. They certainly fought like one. :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

Saw the first episode. Yeah. It's 80% lesbian melodrama, 19% spoken history and world-building without any showing of any kind... and then 1% actual Willow. And no likeable characters.

[Andrew NDB]

Saw the 2nd one. Well, at least there's a lot more Willow... though he is basically a failed sorcerer who bumbles around for laughs. They make it clear we're not to take him seriously. Only the female characters are capable.

Must have been a small budget here. We see Willow's village and it has like 10% of the population we saw in the movie. And they only mention Willow's wife, we don't see her.

Man those two lesbians are unlikable. Everything coming out of their mouths is just bitch, bitch, bitch. And token Indian rogue guy doesn't really have any purpose.

[Andrew NDB]

Finished the fourth episode, which wasn't all the way horrible. It was a return to Nockmarr and a bunch of ghost visits. Some added backstory to Bavmorda which definitely means she's coming. The episode before it Elora Danen was taken in by two forest lesbians who gave her sanctuary. But the story beats weren't bad and you do feel a little for the guy who was taken over.

I don't foresee a second season for this, honestly. NO ONE is talking about this show anywhere. Not a soul. Not that I can see. Zero buzz.

[Andrew NDB]

Up to episode 7. The characters are doing the opposite of growing on me still but the "scope" is getting bigger and a little more fantastical. Also, a nice old man takes them in, feeds them all, offers to take them where they want to go across the mud ocean, and for a reward the Flash guy from Spider-Man beats him over the head and knocks him out so they can take his ride and this is kind of cheered on by the others. wtf? Who are these writers and what kind of worldview is this?

The only defining characteristic of the two main lesbians remains that they are lesbians. And something about "mumble, mumble, brave." And I think I figured out what happened here. I bet originally, the roles of Madmartigan's son and daughter were swapped around. Then in the writers room someone who felt pretty clever went, "How about we give the bigger role of the two to the daughter instead of the son? Girls get it done and all?" And then it was like, "Well OK, but then we'll have to swap the gender of the girlfriend" and finally, "What if... we didn't have to?" Cue the applause.

In fact, anyone that's suffering through this show like me, think about if the two roles were swapped, and Madmartigan's son was there having the romance with the red-headed black lady. It'd be just as boring and one dimensional as it is as-is with the daughter instead, right? The only thing that is even there that's the least bit engaging -- or could be, to certain types -- is that it is a lesbian relationship in a fantasy setting. That's it. There's no other meat on the bones whatsoever. That's as deep as the writing team went because they honestly seem to think that was enough.

[Andrew NDB]

Season is over now, mercifully. I will say the story improved in these last 2 or 3 episodes but the characters are the same or worse than when things started. And here it is, the season finale and Willow does absolutely nothing. He even does the "leaving to return later at a critical moment at the climax" (ala, Han in Star Wars) but it doesn't amount to anything. He like, starts to scuffle with some faceless goons and then they immediately cut away from it. Lots of dudes explaining to the female characters how much better the female characters are than them.

Embarrassing to watch. And they have the nerve to include a teaser in the mid-credits showing that this is "Volume 1" and showing Volume 2 and 3 on the same bookshelf as books. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. 30 years and they had their chance and they blew it. Utterly blew it.

[Andrew NDB]

Now CANCELLED.

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/disney-cancels-willow-after-one-season/?fbclid=IwAR0-1CXKMn1H_ryH0VPsI3FV8uyrCTmfxgMcw9XRT-6YjeSpCvhsaUi0RSY

Rightly so. What a horrible show that was.

[Sir5R]

I had tried to watch this but ultimately used it as background noise. Terrible show.

[Autbot_Benz]

Disney+ has begun a wide-scale purge of content from their platform, with original series like Willow, Big Shot, and Mysterious Benedict Society set to disappear entirely from the streaming service.



The programs are scheduled to leave the streamer on May 26, so get those final binges in while you can.



https://collider.com/disney-plus-hulu-content-purge-willow/

[Andrew NDB]

lol... not only is it not getting a season 2 (even though the team behind it insist it's not even cancelled (https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/willow-not-cancelled-disney-plus-1234820647/)) but it's being erased from even being streamed anywhere!

[cammy85]

Quite the purge for sure!! Some of the shows JUST finished too!!

[Andrew NDB]

Warwick Davis wants to know what he should tell people asking him where to see the show.

https://ew.com/tv/willow-warwick-davis-disney-removing-series-embarrassing/

[IMJ]

He should say "well, our show was yet another example of woke $#!( that failed miserably and left audiences so apathetic that Disney removed it, sooooo..... just don't watch it and you'll be fine".

That's what he should say.

[KROW]

I liked the movie and was interested in this when it was announced. I waited for the season to end to binge watch it, but I never got around to it. Then when Disney announced it was removing it from Plus, I made a mental note not to dawdle and get to watching. But when I finally had time to do so, it was gone.

Now that I've read these synopses from Andrew, I'm glad I didn't. I mean, if it's called, "Willow" and Willow is hardly in it, what's the damn point? Thanks for suffering through it for the rest of us.

[Andrew NDB]

Now that I've read these synopses from Andrew, I'm glad I didn't. I mean, if it's called, "Willow" and Willow is hardly in it, what's the damn point? Thanks for suffering through it for the rest of us.

Damn it, I wanted to like it so bad. I tried to grit my teeth at a lot of the worst of it, hoping it'd all come together at some point. No, it never did.

The worst part is that even when there is Willow on the screen, he's like the least respected character of the cast. 30 years later, he never became a strong or even good wizard, and is now just largely incompetent and reluctant to even help out at all. A lot like how they did Luke in Last Jedi. Except here, 90% of the time we're just expected to tolerate an intolerable cast of characters. I mean, the characters in the Star Wars sequel trilogy were similarly cardboard and impossible to connect with of course, but at least none of them were actively gratingly irritating to my recollection.