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FredWolfLeonardo
05-21-2019, 12:01 AM
It is something I have always wondered.

After that episode, we never see them again in the Original Cartoon, but thats not the main reason I think they didn't survive.

Rather, Shredder and Krang actually did come back in season 10 so that makes me wonder why they didn't just bring the two mutants along with them?

99 out of 100 times during the show, Shredder and Krang kept those two no matter how incompetent, so I thought that Bebop and Rocksteady's absence in season 10 was glaring.

It makes me think that the two ended up getting eaten by the giant plant monster that destroyed the technodrome.

sdp
05-21-2019, 07:36 AM
I'm of the not officially dead until 100% confirmed when it comes to superheroes and the like. So I'm going to say no because I can't think of many villains that died in the OT.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-21-2019, 10:22 AM
Rather, Shredder and Krang actually did come back in season 10 so that makes me wonder why they didn't just bring the two mutants along with them?

Dregg and Mung probably saw them as too incompetent, no need to bring them alongside Shredder and Krang.

oldmanwinters
05-21-2019, 10:24 AM
Nobody died in 90s cartoons.

They were simply sent "into another dimension (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BffZ0vjMH2I)." :tlol:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-21-2019, 10:48 AM
There is a fanfic about what happened to them

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6481997/1/The-Long-Road

FredWolfLeonardo
05-21-2019, 11:32 AM
Dregg and Mung probably saw them as too incompetent, no need to bring them alongside Shredder and Krang.

Ah yes, I totally forgot that Shredder and Krang were brought to earth against their will by Dregg.

So if they survived, Mung atleast would've definetly met Bebop and Rocksteady during his travels through Dimension X since he also met Shredder and Krang there.

neatoman
05-21-2019, 01:37 PM
Yes, I like to think they were eaten.

Prowler
05-21-2019, 02:21 PM
I'm of the not officially dead until 100% confirmed when it comes to superheroes and the like. So I'm going to say no because I can't think of many villains that died in the OT.

This.

Plus, it's also a bit depressing to imagine them dying. I wouldn't even like Shredder or Krang dying in that show, let alone Bebop and Rocksteady.

I's just that Red Sky was meant to be more serious and action oriented, and thus Bebop and Rocksteady were ignored/written out. Not to mention there were already enough "people" in that 3 parter. Dregg, Mung, Shredder and Krang plus the Turtles, April, Carter, Splinter, Landor and Merrick AND the 4 Turtles from the past.

And Shredder and Krang were two people like Dregg and Mung, so it made sense as well. Rocksteady and Bebop were mere underlings and two moronic ones to boot. Wouldn't make sense for Dregg to try and strike a deal with them.

CyberCubed
05-21-2019, 03:34 PM
They're probably wandering Dimension X

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-22-2019, 09:04 AM
They're probably wandering Dimension X

Balaraphon, to me more exact.

CyberCubed
05-22-2019, 04:13 PM
So funny Balaraphon was in that one Fast Forward episode too.

ABrown
05-22-2019, 05:31 PM
Nobody died in 90s cartoons.

While I agree that Rocksteady and Bebop didn't die, plenty of characters died in Transformers Beast Wars.

FredWolfLeonardo
05-22-2019, 05:40 PM
So funny Balaraphon was in that one Fast Forward episode too.

It was?

What was the name of the episode? (I forget after not having watched FF for so long, and can't find any info about it on Turtlepedia)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-23-2019, 05:40 AM
Transformers Beast Wars.

Are you talking of the robots? They technically don't die, they are just destroyed or go out of function (even if it's high artificial intelligences)

Icebot
05-23-2019, 06:20 AM
It was?

What was the name of the episode? (I forget after not having watched FF for so long, and can't find any info about it on Turtlepedia)

The episode is Milk Run, it’s a Torbin Zixx episode.

Back on topic, I always guessed Turtles Forever took place after Divide and Conquer, and if it’s true Bebop and Rocksteady couldn’t have died in Turtle Trek. I know a lot of others believe that’s when it took place and a lot of others believe it takes place much earlier.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-23-2019, 07:02 AM
The episode is Milk Run, it’s a Torbin Zixx episode.

Back on topic, I always guessed Turtles Forever took place after Divide and Conquer, and if it’s true Bebop and Rocksteady couldn’t have died in Turtle Trek. I know a lot of others believe that’s when it took place and a lot of others believe it takes place much earlier.

Is Bellerophon the correct spelling (talking of both series)?

Icebot
05-24-2019, 06:16 AM
Is Bellerophon the correct spelling (talking of both series)?

I think it’s spelled Balarophon.

I think they’re spelled the same in Turtle Trek / Milk Run but I never learned for sure.

cammy85
05-24-2019, 09:39 AM
One handheld game that came later had them teaming with Berserko/Drakus; who had taken up the reigns from Krang and Shredder after the old Technodrome was destroyed. But the final time we saw Bebop and Rocksteady onscreen guarding the portal was pretty brutal since it's clear the Turtles weren't messing around this time.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-24-2019, 11:21 AM
One handheld game that came later had them teaming with Berserko/Drakus; who had taken up the reigns from Krang and Shredder after the old Technodrome was destroyed.

I guess you're talking about Dimension X Assault (1995)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi_e-o4oxAU

ABrown
05-24-2019, 02:27 PM
Are you talking of the robots? They technically don't die, they are just destroyed or go out of function (even if it's high artificial intelligences)

Oh no, Transformers are definitely alive. They have emotions, and can feel joy, as well as pain and suffering. One of the best episodes of any action cartoon ever created was a season 2 episode of Beast Wars where Dinobot gave his life protecting the prehistoric humans.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-24-2019, 03:42 PM
It makes me think that the two ended up getting eaten by the giant plant monster that destroyed the technodrome.

Nothing indicates the monster being flesh-eater, it may just have seen the Technodrome as threatening, trying to destroy it.

FredWolfLeonardo
05-24-2019, 03:47 PM
Nothing indicates the monster being flesh-eater, it may just have seen the Technodrome as threatening, trying to destroy it.

It also tried "destroying" the turtles and might've actually succeeded with destroying Bebop and Rocksteady, if not eating them.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-24-2019, 04:05 PM
I guess the producers didn't want to kill them onscreen, in case they wanted them to return in upcoming seasons.

cammy85
05-25-2019, 09:24 AM
I guess you're talking about Dimension X Assault (1995)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi_e-o4oxAU

That's the one!! Thanks!! I should've added a link.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-25-2019, 02:04 PM
That's the one!! Thanks!! I should've added a link.

The only Red Sky seasons video game.

pferreira
06-03-2019, 12:28 PM
Yeah I don't think they died. Knowing those two they probably got separated from Shredder and Krang, got lost.

MikeandRaph87
04-12-2020, 03:07 PM
Nobody died in 90s cartoons.

They were simply sent "into another dimension (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BffZ0vjMH2I)." :tlol:

Mysterio did!

I am also of the opinion that Dregg died if anyone did. Caught up in the explosion I don't see how he could have survived. Also, I kinda want him to. Unless he comes back again and The Shredder can get the best of him again opposed to indirectly, as the engineer of Krang's android body and perhaps in a duel. The only good thing about Dregg is the respect I have for the late Tony Jay.

And yes, Assault on Dimension X I believe is the latest marketed product with Bebop and Rocksteady until Turtles Forever in 2009. They made a couple late run Playmates figures that were not rereleases ('98-'00), but I believe the awesome video game is their last appearance for fourteen years. I showed by copy of the game in Dischord not long ago.

pferreira
04-20-2020, 12:30 PM
And yes, Assault on Dimension X I believe is the latest marketed product with Bebop and Rocksteady until Turtles Forever in 2009. They made a couple late run Playmates figures that were not rereleases ('98-'00), but I believe the awesome video game is their last appearance for fourteen years. I showed by copy of the game in Dischord not long ago.Which video game?

MikeandRaph87
04-20-2020, 01:48 PM
Dimension X Assault. It came out in 1995.

neatoman
04-20-2020, 03:25 PM
Dimension X Assault. It came out in 1995.

An LCD game? I don't think that many people knew about it in the first place.

MikeandRaph87
04-20-2020, 04:04 PM
An LCD game? I don't think that many people knew about it in the first place.

Yes, it has Berserko leading Bebop, Rockteady, and the Foot. It's odd but fun. It is the source that suggests that Berserko would have been a better option than Dregg.Berserko didn't even get the spotlight of his only appearance.

I have a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers one and Project X X-Men one too. There was only so much too them, but I enjoyed them all. LCD handhelds were simple even for it's time, but a cheap buy and fun where I actually could get through the game.

pferreira
04-22-2020, 07:13 AM
Yes, it has Berserko leading Bebop, Rockteady, and the Foot. It's odd but fun. It is the source that suggests that Berserko would have been a better option than Dregg.Berserko didn't even get the spotlight of his only appearance.Ah that's why I don't remember it. I had no idea the LCD game had a plot. But thanks for letting us know. :)

cammy85
04-22-2020, 09:54 AM
That was only one of the LCD games they had if I remember right. It's too bad they can't adapt Berserko in the newer shows because he had potential to be awesome.