How long could a real life Casey Jones last before being killed or arrested?

[CyberCubed]

Let's say someone in real life decided to do what Casey Jones did, and puts on a hockey mask and takes golf clubs and baseball bats to "clean up crime," and get "filthy criminal scum off the streets."

To make things fair the guy is reasonably well-buffed and athletic and has muscles, and to make things more realistic at least wears a bullet proof vest under his shirt. But other than that no real protection, and his only weapons are the stuff Casey uses.

Likewise in real life a guy doesn't just stand around waiting for some guy to steal an old lady's purse or wait for two guys to rob a bank like you see in comics/cartoons, a real life Casey Jones would likely be heading toward seedy underbelly drug-infested crime areas, "in da hood," and purposely seek out drug dealers or people with known criminal activity to stop them. So it's one guy versus like...10-15+ or however many guys are there.

How long could a real life Casey Jones last before he's either killed or the police arrest him?

[cloud]

a week maybe. He even uses his real name. Not hard for the police to find.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Does he surrender peacefully if the cops get him?

Because I would predict violent death by policemen when he won't stand down.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Once the police arrested him, they would probably be attacked by an angry mob demanding him to be freed.

[neatoman]

Ever read Kick-Ass? Dave's very first attempt to take the law into his own hands (confronting graffiti taggers) ends up in him getting kicked in the balls, punched in the face, kicked while lying down, stabbed in the lung, run over by a car and he only survives because of swift medical intervention. Then throughout the rest of the series he basically survives by fighting dirty, taking far lower risks and generally getting lucky.

Kick-Ass (in general) is a pretty decent depiction of what characters like Casey Jones would be like in real life: A bunch of bored, stupid/insane, violent losers who don't know what they're doing.

[Mr Salk]

He doesn't pack heat...so one instance.

[turtle1237]

I give him a day before he gets killed. Or his first encounter with criminals. These guys mostly likely will be packing some heat, and no a Hockey mask is not going to stop a bullet.

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah, sadly he'd be gunned down real quick. Unlike cartoon where most punks just carry knives and bats and the occasional one will have a gun, here they'll all be packing heat.

[ABrown]

I think it would depend on him knowing what battles would be too much for him. If he's taking on an entire gang, he's gonna be done right away. But if he's sticking with solo battles, he might be able to last a while.

[rickwj324]

Yeah... someone like Casey (or any human for that matter) wouldn't last long if things like Shredder, ninja soldiers, Mutants, etc really existed.

The 2012 Nick show is my favorite, but that Casey Jones out of any other version of Casey wouldn't even last a day!! I love the character on that show, but the reality is he's a scrawny teenager and could never hang with a bunch of trained ninja killers and mutant animals. I always felt they overplayed his skill level when it came to fighting. Still... I 100% love that show!!

[pferreira]

Depends which version. If we're going with laaaaaaw breaker Casey he would need an army to take down. :lol:

[snake]

Real life Casey would absolutely have a gun on him. I’d give him a month before police stage a crime to get him arrested for murder.

[turtle1237]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_6KMGB_Pkw

First movie, I am pretty sure in real life one of these JB lowlifes would be carrying a gun lol.

[mrmaczaps]

Modern day NYC?
Dead first time out.��*♂️

[Utrommaniac]

I like how we're all agreed that he'd never last as long as he actually did :lol:

[Slade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_6KMGB_Pkw

First movie, I am pretty sure in real life one of these JB lowlifes would be carrying a gun lol.

J.V.


And not long. I give him a week to a month, depending on circumstances.

[Andrew NDB]

An evening.

[Shark_Blade]

Imagine this but with a mob after he hit one of their gang members:

https://i.imgur.com/jcOhOWc.png

[turtle1237]

J.V.


And not long. I give him a week to a month, depending on circumstances.

Sorry, all these years I though it was J B.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Casey Jones just does what the police is excepted to do (but doesn't), and a little bit more...

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Modern day NYC?
Dead first time out.��*♂️

He's more athletic than you, fat boy... :tlol:

[Leo656]

He's more athletic than you, fat boy... :tlol:


WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :lol:

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[DVSleeSmooth]

Probably not long. Caseys a good fighter but he would be seen as a Vigilante considering he also goes by his real name and the only disguise is a hockey mask it wouldnt be hard for the Cops to find him. Alternatively Casey could probably get caught in a gang scuffle or get shot considering hes busting heads. Or could be turned over to the Foot

[IMJ]

Dude's got a baseball bat. One fight against a guy with a gun and it's over. One long cut on the arm from a guy with a knife and he's bleeding out from being filleted.

You don't dodge bullets in real life and generally speaking you stay way out of range of a knife or walk away.

[Leo656]

I mean, in real life most "vigilantes" are smart enough to only pick fights they can win, so I'unno, if all he did was stuff like taking on those purse snatchers in the first movie I could see him doing alright. Maybe sneak up behind someone robbing a liquor store and braining them from behind while they weren't ready. He could get away with stuff like that if he was careful about it.

But yeah he'd generally be pretty outmatched if he aimed any higher than that. Which is why most people in real life don't attempt such nonsense. Good thing for him he ain't real. :trazz:

[PizzaPower1985]

Have any of you seen or heard about those real-life superheroes? A lot of them had enough dough to buy military grade protection... the kinds swat guys use. Their outfits are customized to look colorful but their helmets are often made with the same poly-carbon materials that riot helmets and $hit have. They also have way more defense training than you might believe. That husband/wife team (they were lawyers) got arrested for vigilantism and I'm not sure if they beat the rap, but they were lawyers so?????

So, I dunno... With someone like Jones? First of all, HE'S FICTIONAL... If he were real, he would most certainly be wearing bulletproof armor, at least. It would depend on a lot of factors? If he picks his battles, stays in the shadows and doesn't get caught in the middle of a bad situation? Who knows?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-life_superhero#List_of_notable_real-life_superheroes

[Leo656]

Yeah, I seen 'em. :lol: I remember like 10 years ago G4 had one of their shows do a whole "expose" on it. Those people are well-meaning lunatics. :lol: That's the kinda stuff I used to fantasize about doing when I was like 6, and realized by 7 that was a great way to get killed.

I can't believe that some people think that's a good idea. If they'd ever actually thrown hands with someone who was armed and high on crack or PCP they'd probably rethink their position. :lol: In real life you can't even go up to a group of drug hustlers and ask them politely to disperse without getting a gun in your face. "Helmets" or no, these guys would last all of five minutes in Newark or Camden or New Brunswick; their body'd end up in the trunk of someone's car and their delightfully-decorated head would be placed on a stick on a street corner as a warning to every other dumbass.

And that's just Jersey. :lol: I'unno, man. People are f*ckin' nuts.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

The thing with RLSH's though, is that MOST of them don't actually go out looking to pick fights with gangs and such. They are really more like glorified neighborhood watch, and most conduct themselves as such. They also often do things like volunteer work with the homeless and disadvantaged, like working in soup kitchens, handing out blankets and coats, cleaning up litter, etc. Some also do visitations to local children's hospitals or other such places. A very few DO actively seek out criminals to make citizens arrests, but they are the minority, and will use appropriate precautions. There is a really good book on the subject in my local library that I read years ago, which goes into the history, activities, and even lists some of the most well-known ones from around the world.

[PizzaPower1985]

The thing with RLSH's though, is that MOST of them don't actually go out looking to pick fights with gangs and such. They are really more like glorified neighborhood watch, and most conduct themselves as such. They also often do things like volunteer work with the homeless and disadvantaged, like working in soup kitchens, handing out blankets and coats, cleaning up litter, etc. Some also do visitations to local children's hospitals or other such places. A very few DO actively seek out criminals to make citizens arrests, but they are the minority, and will use appropriate precautions. There is a really good book on the subject in my local library that I read years ago, which goes into the history, activities, and even lists some of the most well-known ones from around the world.

That's a really good point, Ms Duckie. And to your point, the husband/wife team known as Pheonix Jones and Purple Reign are really almost more like political activists than they are a Casey Jones or Batman type... They raise awareness of social issues and teach self defense courses and give lectures to high school students. They're not really out there fighting street gangs or confronting bangers too often. But I'm sure a tense situation has happened on occasion.

The ones that do fight in the streets are usually the ones who end up in prison for assault. They're not being gunned down as much as they are going to jail.

[AquaParade]

I don?t know but I love Casey Jones as a character. This makes me think about Shades of Grey from Mirage volume 1, where you do get a bit of a deconstruction of Casey Jones.

[Redeemer]

a week maybe. He even uses his real name. Not hard for the police to find.

Does he surrender peacefully if the cops get him?

Because I would predict violent death by policemen when he won't stand down.

Once the police arrested him, they would probably be attacked by an angry mob demanding him to be freed.

So I guess most of you guys don't realize this, but you can actually make citizens arrest legally. In Ohio any citizen can make a felony arrest. Its how the Highway patrol makes arrest, bc they are legally cops.

So the police really couldn't do anything unless they actually see him commit a crime himself. Bad guys would kill him first. He might last a while, but eventually I imagine he would be killed by bad guys.

[Coola Yagami]

You know, with everything having to be political or a movement, it can never be, well this guy did this just because.... I wouldn't be surprised if nowadays Casey Jones would unintentionally start a movement. Either he manages to beat up some thugs and save a life, or he gets gunned down on his first night, granted it's caught on film well...

If he succeeds people will probably start some sort of #takebackthestreetsyourself movement or some crap that will inspire a lot more vigilantees running around, for better or for worse.

If he is gunned down, that might be the incident that was the last straw and it starts some sort of #getcrimeoutofthehood movement or whatever where people start to fight back against the gangs.

Of course the politicians and powers at be will use either movement to further their agenda and line their pockets, maybe say it's the Mexicans fault and somehow the wall was involved, I dunno. I just get the feeling Casey Jones would have unintentionally have started some sort of movement or hashtag.

[AquaParade]

You know, with everything having to be political or a movement, it can never be, well this guy did this just because.... I wouldn't be surprised if nowadays Casey Jones would unintentionally start a movement. Either he manages to beat up some thugs and save a life, or he gets gunned down on his first night, granted it's caught on film well...

If he succeeds people will probably start some sort of #takebackthestreetsyourself movement or some crap that will inspire a lot more vigilantees running around, for better or for worse.

If he is gunned down, that might be the incident that was the last straw and it starts some sort of #getcrimeoutofthehood movement or whatever where people start to fight back against the gangs.

Of course the politicians and powers at be will use either movement to further their agenda and line their pockets, maybe say it's the Mexicans fault and somehow the wall was involved, I dunno. I just get the feeling Casey Jones would have unintentionally have started some sort of movement or hashtag.

Could definitely be an interesting story angle.

[IMJ]

Have any of you seen or heard about those real-life superheroes? A lot of them had enough dough to buy military grade protection... the kinds swat guys use. Their outfits are customized to look colorful but their helmets are often made with the same poly-carbon materials that riot helmets and $hit have. They also have way more defense training than you might believe. That husband/wife team (they were lawyers) got arrested for vigilantism and I'm not sure if they beat the rap, but they were lawyers so?????

So, I dunno... With someone like Jones? First of all, HE'S FICTIONAL... If he were real, he would most certainly be wearing bulletproof armor, at least. It would depend on a lot of factors? If he picks his battles, stays in the shadows and doesn't get caught in the middle of a bad situation? Who knows?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-life_superhero#List_of_notable_real-life_superheroes

Ohhhhhh... ya. Real life superheroes. God what where we thinking? I saw a documentary about that... I think it was called Kick-Ass!

[AquaParade]

I'm massively entertained by real-life superheroes. It's so bizarre. Keep them coming.

[ssjup81]

Missed this thread. lol

I think if it was Casey Jones now...he'd get caught pretty quickly. Everyone has a phone. If he does his whole vigilante thing and someone nearby hears him or comes across it and records it and make it publicly known, there's a chance that someone (his family maybe?) would recognize him. The cops may also have something to go by because come on...we know Casey isn't the type to sit around and not do the vigilante thing even if he was plastered all over the place, imo.

In the past...he has more of a chance because it was easier for people to kind of be a bit incognito because people's lives wasn't out there for all to see. I still think he'd get caught pretty quickly if the cops put two and two together, or if the criminals start blabbing on about a guy named "Casey Jones" beating them up...then again, Casey beats them up with sporting equipment...would they have the brain cells left to even give that much information?:P

[Coola Yagami]

Honestly the world has gotten so 'cameras everywhere', the Ninja Turtles themselves wouldn't be able to function. They'd literally be exposed to the world their very first night out. Depending on how humanoid 'real-life' ninja turtles would look, they'd probably be able to get away with 'they're just weird guys in costumes' for the first day or so before someone realizes they're actual mutated animals.

I'm thinking at the rate the world is moving, more and more modern cartoons and heroes that deal with secret identities have to to kinda ignore the fact that everyone has a cellphone with a camera on it or have it take place in the 80's and 90's before such technology existed.

[Andrew NDB]

The Turtles would know to only operate at night time... also only in the shadow. And they're trained ninja... avoiding random people with cell phones should be easy. City cams and such? They'd figure out where they are and know to avoid. It's not rocket science.

Maybe Donnie could figure out a small yield EMP-type device to knock out nearby devices/cameras/phones. My dad did that 15 years ago (for phones anyway), I'm pretty sure Donnie could, too.

[909 Turtle Fan]

Not very long, especially without the threat of a weapon that fires projectiles :tlol: But if he were to set up a high performance sport bike near where he is doing the vigilante stuff and he could get to it before getting shot up, then he might have a good chance of avoiding getting caught up.

[Hockey Boy]

He’s a man in Sports Equipment.
I give him 2 months at the absolute most before randomly getting gunned down in an alley