Jennika in the next Platinum Dunes movie?

[Andrew NDB]

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Does anyone else think Platinum Dunes might be seeing all the interest being piqued about Jennika over in IDW going, "Reeeeally? A female Turtle and most people don't seem to hate it this time? Innnnteresting."

[Jester]

but then they'll get it wrong, not world build to get there, and just gender swap a turtle....probably Donna-Tello.

[Wildcat]

I don’t read the comics and only came across the character the other day. I don’t know anything about her.

I’ve always liked the idea of adding another turtle though and I actually liked Venus so if they did that’d be cool to me.

[Shark_Blade]

She’s gonna be the main character and the rest will take a backseat isn’t it?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

This thread needs to have a poll with many options.

[neatoman]

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Does anyone else think Platinum Dunes might be seeing all the interest being piqued about Jennika over in IDW going, "Reeeeally? A female Turtle and most people don't seem to hate it this time? Innnnteresting."

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[Galactus]

Can't see it myself.

For all the talk that the first Platinum Dunes movies took their main inspiration from the IDW series it didn't ever seem like that in the finished product. The one thing which was kinda like that series (the lab origin) we know has been kicking around the minds of Hollywood execs that have handled the property for years before IDW had the TMNT license. I'd be willing to bet it was largely a coincidence. They may have been aware of the IDW series lab origin but they clearly didn't feel any reason to make their version anything like it.

So yeah they haven't followed the IDW series and I don't think they are going to start now.

Even for the sake of diversity Michael Bay and the guys and PD have never struck me as people all that concerned with that. If anything I'd imagine Bay would use his influence to go the other way. Like these are the kind of guys that made a big stink anout how Arcee was too difficult to explain in the first Transformers movie (why would she need any more than explaining than the male Autobots?) and I know people think Fichtner-Shredder was to appease Chinese market/investors but I could easily see Bay thinking do we have to cast a Japanese actor? Why can't we just make him a white guy? That'd be much easier.

From a creative standpoint she'd have to be saved for a sequel and world building is not something Bay and co do. Neither PD movie hinted were the next would go and they pretty much ditched everything from the 2014 for Out Of The Shadiws. At best I could see that instead of Karai we get a blonde second in command of the Foot that only says a few lines and is never named in the actual movie that is supposed to be Jennika and I doubt we'd ever see her mutate into a turtle.

[CyberCubed]

Even the whole reincarnation aspect IDW came up with that I forget exists half the time was never used anywhere else. Hell IDW’s Turtles are technically humans turned Turtle, something people would have seen as shark jumping material in any other version.

[Andrew NDB]

Hell IDW’s Turtles are technically humans turned Turtle

No, not technically. If I reincarnated into an eagle, and then the eagle mutated into a big eagle, that doesn't mean I am "technically human turned eagle." It means I am an eagle that mutated big, who in a previous life was a human.

[IndigoErth]

Oh dear. Uh... no thanks?

Being THAT company however and how Bay clearly likes to shove his ideas in there even if he's "just a producer"... it's like you just automatically know in what ways it would be bound to go wrong. There's no way in hell that Bay & Co. wouldn't try their damnedest to ensure that she's sexy to their supposed target audience.

But... that would kinda make me giggle a lot when plenty of male fans/viewers are feeling sorta awkward about noticing. :tlol:

And I REALLY don't care to watch any of the boys being made to be drooling over her. Please no.

If they did bring her in, I request there be a large enough age difference to kind of put a stop to going in that direction. Either she's too old for them OR maybe bump the guys up into their 20s and maybe she's a new "little sister" who has come along and is just in her teens. Too young for them, accepted as a sister, and maybe go with the slimmed down design some of the concept art had for the guys before they decided to make them so much bigger in the films.

[Galactus]

^^^

To be fair that would entirely depend on whether Bay finds the idea of female anthropomorphic turtle potentially sexy. I have a feeling Bay aint that freaky.

I could be wrong though...come to think of it that Blue Door script had Michelangelo hook up with a female turtle that just came out of nowhere so maybe it's not that far fetched.

[Andrew NDB]

On thing's for certain: Platinum Dunes would bring back shell boobs for sure.

This thread needs to have a poll with many options.

OK, done.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

^^^

To be fair that would entirely depend on whether Bay finds the idea of female anthropomorphic turtle potentially sexy. I have a feeling Bay aint that freaky.

I could be wrong though...come to think of it that Blue Door script had Michelangelo hook up with a female turtle that just came out of nowhere so maybe it's not that far fetched.

Yeah, but Bay thinks the nerds are. He put balls on a Transformer, remember?

[Sugilita]

^^^

To be fair that would entirely depend on whether Bay finds the idea of female anthropomorphic turtle potentially sexy. I have a feeling Bay aint that freaky.

I could be wrong though...come to think of it that Blue Door script had Michelangelo hook up with a female turtle that just came out of nowhere so maybe it's not that far fetched.

Really? And this female turtle was nameless?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Really? And this female turtle was nameless?

It was a whole planet of mutant Turtles.

The "Blue Door" script was tripping balls on some serious street smack.

Also, whoever wrote it didn't understand what "hate fvck" means. :tlol:

[Sugilita]

It was a whole planet of mutant Turtles.

The "Blue Door" script was tripping balls on some serious street smack.

Also, whoever wrote it didn't understand what "hate fvck" means. :tlol:

Sounds like a very bad fic. Hopefully "Blue Door" script was just a joke.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sounds like a very bad fic. Hopefully "Blue Door" script was just a joke.

It wasn't, amigo.

We didn't dodge a bullet; the bullet that is Platinum Dunes still hit us. Twice.

But we dodged getting mowed down by heavy-caliber automatic weapons fire.

[Andrew NDB]

But we dodged getting mowed down by heavy-caliber automatic weapons fire.

Their Turtles didn't -- they can take heavy-caliber automatic weapons fire straight to the skin no problem!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Their Turtles didn't -- they can take heavy-caliber automatic weapons fire straight to the skin no problem!

Aw geez, I forgot about that stupidity.

And people say Megan Fox was the worst part of the PD TMNT movies. :trolleye:

[IndigoErth]

I'm not even sure how to vote... I'm somewhere between rotflolcopter, "Um...what?" and "dear god, no."

Though the fact that whatever PD does is probably bound to be bat crap crazy anyhow, I'm almost willing to throw caution to the wind and just say do it, just to see what the hell happens.


Plastron would so turn into a corset... Push-up plastron plates by Reptoria's Secret.


Also, whoever wrote it didn't understand what "hate fvck" means. :tlol:
Actually, if it's the same part I'm thinking of, I think it was "eye f***" when Leo and Raph get into a tiff in the back of a (moving?) van. :lol: No... no that is not a term for just glaring at each other!

That script was really something else.

Some of it's descriptive writing was decent in some of the fantastical elements (lord knows it would have been dumbed down for a film though), but the alien concept and how they ended it was depressing, so no thanks.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Actually, if it's the same part I'm thinking of, I think it was "eye f***" when Leo and Raph get into a tiff in the back of a (moving) van. :lol: No... no that is not a term for just glaring at each other.

That script was really something else.

Some of it's descriptive writing was decent in some of the fantastical elements (lord knows it would have been dumbed down for a film though), but the alien concept and how they ended it was depressing, so no thanks.

Yeah, that was it. Eyefvck, my bad.

It was Leo "eyefvcking" Raph, and the writer meant for it to be glaring... but that is NOT what that word means. NOT. AT. ALL.

Shredder was an alien. Turtles were aliens. Planet of Turtles. What a ride.

[IndigoErth]

I believe I found it here (https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-EqA_5v7xkG9YjKAC/tmnt-script_djvu.txt) if anyone is interested in reading Blue Door again, or for the first time.

I had to go hunt down that lovely excerpt from it.

Casey charges back to the trailer, where he furiously SWINGS
OPEN the U-Haul Doors —

THE TURTLES FREEZE IN POSITION - Raph with Leo in a headlock.
Don grabbing Raph's leg. And Mikey pulling at Leo's waist.

Casey notices The Turtles have moved around April's
furniture, TRANSFORMING THE U-HAUL INTO A MOBILE LIVING ROOM .

CASEY (CONT'D)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
don't Ninjas pride themselves on
being stealth ? And undetectable ?

DONATELLO
In all fairness, it's been a while
since we've had a proper meal.
Check this one off to low blood
sugar .

Casey SLAMS the door shut.

Raph releases Leo. Don and Mikey standing between them as
the Turtles catch their breath. After a beat, Leo, while eye-
f***ing Raph, addresses Mikey:
Just kills me. :tlol:

[CyberCubed]

If one Turtle had to be gay it would probably be Donatello.

[Sugilita]

If one Turtle had to be gay it would probably be Donatello.

Yes, i fully support Donatello being gay.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

If one Turtle had to be gay it would probably be Donatello.

Why Donatello?

[CyberCubed]

Why Donatello?

He wears a purple bandana which is a highly recognized gay color. He's also usually in most universes the most understanding, polite and quiet. Leonardo and Raphael definitely give off the macho, "toxic masculinity" vibe, and Mikey just seems like a free-spirit but probably straight. Don seems to be the most likely to "swing this way" if you know what I mean.

But not Fred Wolf Donatello. I see him as very different than all the others due to how assertive he was and what a large temper he had.

[IndigoErth]

So straight guys can't have those qualities...?

Also not sure you even understand what "toxic" means, as none of the Turtles are.

[The-Shredder]

One of the historical reasons as to why you don't see a lot of people wear purple is because such colors and fabrics were mostly accessible to the nobility or wealthy classes in premodern times. Plain, monochrome colors are the norm nowadays to give the impression that one is serious and professional, as well as that they are easier to maintain. Purple and pink were also in style in the 80s and 90s, and many still wear those colors today.

[Shark_Blade]

He wears a purple bandana which is a highly recognized gay color.

Since when is purple a gay color??? Wtf? Show your receipt.

You and your delusions smh :trolleye:


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[Andrew NDB]

Nonsense. You don't have to go more than the first 15 issues or so into Mirage (i.e., the source material) to have Donnie being lovestruck over an alien woman.

In fact, an argument could be made that he's the first Turtle to actually exhibit an actual attraction to... anyone.

[Sugilita]

Nonsense. You don't have to go more than the first 15 issues or so into Mirage (i.e., the source material) to have Donnie being lovestruck over an alien woman.

In fact, an argument could be made that he's the first Turtle to actually exhibit an actual attraction to... anyone.

Well, Peter said on his blog that it could also be interpreted as only mutual respect.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

The problem is she isn't that well-known. Let her appear in a couple of cartoon episodes first, and give her an action figure.

[IndigoErth]

I assume we're talking Jhanna?

While in most cases I tend to feel that people read a lot into stuff that they want to be there, this one though...? Yeah, if you're clutching her braid and hanging onto the moment just a minute longer, guy there's no way you aren't swooning at least a little. :D :D

It's a shame she hasn't appeared more or at least got an actual arc in the 2003 series.

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[Sugilita]

I assume we're talking Jhanna?

While in most cases I tend to feel that people read a lot into stuff that they want to be there, this one though...? Yeah, if you're clutching her braid and hanging onto the moment just a minute longer, guy there's no way you aren't swooning at least a little. :D :D

It's a shame she hasn't appeared more or at least got an actual arc in the 2003 series.

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Maybe he had a brief attraction to her. :lol: Jhanna after all was a cool chick with fighting skills. :D

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I assume we're talking Jhanna?

No, we're talking about Jennika

https://turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Jennika

[IndigoErth]

Yes, I know she's the original topic, that it aught to get back to, but she wasn't the current discussion. (I mean Jhanna is an alien warrior, not a Turtle, so that's rather hard to mix up.)

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Sadly, we will get a lot of

Jennika was not in TMNT during the late-1980's and early-1990's. My childhood has been ruined?

But it shouldn't prevent anything.

[IndigoErth]

At this rate, since it's just PD and we're in an era with a cartoon that already said "screw it" to everything important... ya know what, so long as the boys are properly represented personalty/behavior-wise, what the hell, just throw in whoever you want; the new Turtle girl, Venus too so she's not just the token girl in the room, Usagi, Leatherhead, etc... :tlol: (But that would be one hell of a budget.)

[Coola Yagami]

The comic book fans barely know who Jennika is, let alone the casual fan. That's a big no. They'd sooner bring back 'Jennika' but call her Venus.

[victory_angel]

Nonsense. You don't have to go more than the first 15 issues or so into Mirage (i.e., the source material) to have Donnie being lovestruck over an alien woman.

In fact, an argument could be made that he's the first Turtle to actually exhibit an actual attraction to... anyone.

Donnie also gets kissed by Mae West in the Savanti Juliet arc, then after he passes out she complains about how she had just swapped "Turtle Spit" with him.

All the other turtles are confronted by Male figures.

Raph is confronted by Robert E. Howard (the author of Conan the Barbarian)

Michelangelo is ambushed by Bruce Lee

and Leonardo faces off against his namesake Leonardo Da Vinci

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

They'd sooner bring back 'Jennika' but call her Venus.

Another problem, Venus de Milo was not popular.

[Coola Yagami]

Another problem, Venus de Milo was not popular.

True, but except for the crowd that has never ever heard of a female turtle, they'll remember either Venus or 'that one girl turtle from that one show back then, you know, that one where they met the Power Rangers'.

I can honestly see if Jennika or whoever turns into a Turtle in the PD films they'd make her say something like 'Jennika? who's Jennika? From now on, call me Venus' as some sort of girl power theme plays. And also expect a very strong 'gonna show these turtle boys how it's done' vibe as well.

Though if Bay is involved, I'd be more worried about boob close ups, ass close ups, jokes about the Turtles checking her out or trying to sneak a peak as she showers, possible banter about which one they'd rather bone, Venus or April, or even worse.... outright imply that Venus and one of the Turtles did it or were about to before plot gets in the way. Just keep Micheal Bay away from this altogether.

Though if she has the shellboobs, I would like Don to at least point out how it doesn't make sense. Like have the other 3 oogle them and Don is like 'she's not even a mammal, where did those come from?' "have a turtle say some pervy joke. Have Don reply with "you guys do realize that plastron can't come off, right?"

[Sugilita]

Donnie also gets kissed by Mae West in the Savanti Juliet arc, then after he passes out she complains about how she had just swapped "Turtle Spit" with him.

All the other turtles are confronted by Male figures.

Raph is confronted by Robert E. Howard (the author of Conan the Barbarian)

Michelangelo is ambushed by Bruce Lee

and Leonardo faces off against his namesake Leonardo Da Vinci

She hypnotized him. So it doesn't counts. :lol:

[Sugilita]

Another problem, Venus de Milo was not popular.

And supposedly Nick can't use her because she is owned by Saban.

[IndigoErth]

At least if it was Jennika, though it would be a rather shoddy excuse, I suppose they could try to get away with the fact that she was human to start with and excuse it as the mutation process having not taken away the boob fat. Functionality is gone, but the shaping is still there? :tconfuse:

Though I strongly vote "no" to reptile boobs.

Though if Bay is involved, I'd be more worried about boob close ups, ass close ups, jokes about the Turtles checking her out or trying to sneak a peak as she showers, possible banter about which one they'd rather bone, Venus or April, or even worse....
Oh good, I'm not the only one that doesn't trust them not to go there.

Female character, mutant or not... I just can't imagine Bay and his ilk leaving well enough alone.

outright imply that Venus and one of the Turtles did it or were about to before plot gets in the way.
Oh hey, the perfect after credits scene. :tconfuse: :tlol:


"What've you guys been up to?"

[Two rather guilty looking Turtles] "Ummm.... nothing...?"

Dear god, please no.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

because she is owned by Saban.

Saban still owns Next Mutation?

[Andrew NDB]

Saban still owns Next Mutation?

Eh, it's possible. It's not like anyone is chomping at the bit to see new versions of Bonesteel or Silver or anything, though.

[AquaParade]

Eh, it's possible. It's not like anyone is chomping at the bit to see new versions of Bonesteel or Silver or anything, though.

Honestly, if they haven't shown up in IDW at this point, then the rights probably aren't with Nickelodeon.

[Coola Yagami]

Honestly, if they haven't shown up in IDW at this point, then the rights probably aren't with Nickelodeon.

True but IDW wouldn't be past putting in similar characters as a hint hint nudge nudge.

Dragon Lord could have been part of the Pantheon if they wanted.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Actually, I'm pretty sure he already is. Aka "daddy" to the pantheon.

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised Jennika isn't a lesbian, with her crushing on Casey and all. With that short blonde hair and then her being a girl Turtle, you'd think they would want to up the ante with making her also gay. But I guess that's not the case since she had a crush on Casey. It could have been more representation.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Cubed, what's with you wanting every female character to be a lesbian? Seriously??!! And hair-style has NOTHING to do with orientation. April herself had short hair for a while in IDW, right around the Northhampton arc, so your logic is just- ugh. Jennika having short hair would not make hee gay. It was likely a choice by the artists to make her "style" more practical for a female ninja! (Long hair and frequent combat do not mix well. It would just get in the way or provide a way for enemies to grab you.)

[Sabacooza]

I'm surprised Jennika isn't a lesbian, with her crushing on Casey and all. With that short blonde hair and then her being a girl Turtle, you'd think they would want to up the ante with making her also gay. But I guess that's not the case since she had a crush on Casey. It could have been more representation.No, we don't need this series going woke and then going broke.

[Galactus]

No, we don't need this series going woke and then going broke.

Well they've already gone "woke" by simply having a female turtle in the first place according to some folk and that issue sold out.

Like Black Panther and Captain Marvel movies. I mean Marvel is really going broke with those billion dollar films. Come to think of the MCU Spider-Man with its diverse supporting cast is also going to make a billion too.

Star Wars also had two billion dollar movies under their belts and another that was close (Rogue One). Ironically the only modern Star Wars movie to struggle is the one that gave the anti-SJWs pretty much what they wanted. If Disney was looking at that what route do you think is more profitable?

But back to comics, maybe TMNT #95 was a one off. I mean it's not like Miles Morales, Kamala Khan are runaway hits or that the female Thor outsold Odinson last volume or that things like Moon Girl, Squirel Girl kill it in trades. Both Shuri and Ironheart's #1s were the best selling debuts in years

Surely the phrase should be "go woke and some whiny jerks make up that you go broke".

[IndigoErth]

What Duckie said.


*sigh* It'll be so nice when no one is regarded as an "other" who "isn't supposed to be there," nor if a woman (or a man for that matter) isn't within a tiny little frame of expectations then they must be or a character looking a certain way [I]should be for some reason. Sadly I'm sure that won't be until after my generation is long dead and gone. If ever.


If this "woke" stuff sells (as annoying as I find that word, personally), then yeah, that makes it kind of clear that there are underserved markets who are eating it up and whose money is just as valuable, and adding up to millions, billions of dollars...that's a lot of people who want it and a lot of counterbalance in representation that's clearly been missing previously. Diversity isn't a circus sideshow attraction done for cash and asking to be shunned...it's life. (And that includes men and women with various hairstyles and personalities, not just orientations.)

[Coola Yagami]

I'm surprised Jennika isn't a lesbian, with her crushing on Casey and all. With that short blonde hair and then her being a girl Turtle, you'd think they would want to up the ante with making her also gay. But I guess that's not the case since she had a crush on Casey. It could have been more representation.

Not every woman with short hair is a lesbian you stupid homophobic idiot.

I know you try to sound like you're all for it, but treating it as some sort of odd fetish is also ****ed up.

Edit- ban me for a week, I don't care. Something about this clown continuing to force the lesbian stereotype just because he wants to get his jollies off just really struck a nerve.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Not every woman with short hair is a lesbian you stupid homophobic idiot.

I know you try to sound like you're all for it, but treating it as some sort of odd fetish is also ****ed up.

Edit- ban me for a week, I don't care. Something about this clown continuing to force the lesbian stereotype just because he wants to get his jollies off just really struck a nerve.

His post is not meant to be taken seriously.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Sadly, I do believe Cubed actually is serious about this odd fetish. I think we've found his kink.... (Aside from "A Day Inside May", which was brow-raising enough on its own.)

[Prowler]

His post is not meant to be taken seriously.

I'm really glad old Cubed is back to good form :tgrin:

[Xav]

I think we've found his kink.... (Aside from "A Day Inside May", which was brow-raising enough on its own.)I thought his kink was superheroes in skirts?

[Coola Yagami]

I thought his kink was superheroes in skirts?

Possibly short hair lesbian May in a short skirt.

[Andrew NDB]

Another problem, Venus de Milo was not popular.

Culturally, it's probably safe to say that more people were aware of Venus de Milo in 98-99 than anyone is aware now of Jennika.

[sdp]

Jennika? Literally WHO?

It's all about Lita the sixth TMNT now, get with the time

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