TMNT #99 Preview and Discussion

[ChosenOne]

First look at a few panels! (https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1177672919012515840)

[Damo]

First look at a few panels! (https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1177672919012515840)

Oh nooooo...

[neatoman]

Hey, so you know that scene in Day of the Dead where Rhodes gets ripped apart by zombies and tells them to choke on his organs? What are the chances something like that's going to happen to Hob this issue?

[TigerClaw]

Hey, so you know that scene in Day of the Dead where Rhodes gets ripped apart by zombies and tells them to choke on his organs? What are the chances something like that's going to happen to Hob this issue?
I doubt it would go that far.

[Utrommaniac]

Welp...bye, Harold...

[CyberCubed]

As I said before, I hope there are at least a few character deaths after this arc ends to raise the stakes. And not minor characters like those two Elite Guard that Natsu gunned down.

Karai and her mutants and Natsu should not get away with what they've done, I'm still predicting Hun might die or sacrifice himself for Casey (maybe?), and I think Metalhead might blow up. Besides that I don't think Hob will die but he'll be an outcast among the rest of the Mutanimals now and of course the Turtles.

[ChosenOne]

Hey, so you know that scene in Day of the Dead where Rhodes gets ripped apart by zombies and tells them to choke on his organs? What are the chances something like that's going to happen to Hob this issue?

If I may say so, I think you guys are way off the mark with Hob in this and the #98 thread. Yes, what he did was wrong. Yes, there should be some sort of consequence for his actions. But... His plan from the get-go wasn't to just mutate a bunch of humans for ***** and giggles, it was to give the humans a glimpse of how the other half lives. He said as much in previous issues when he was keeping an eye on the progress of Stockman's campaign. And from there, I believe he wants to change the way mankind views and treats mutants. It's pretty much an issue of animal rights if said animals could talk, think complex thoughts, and were previously humans. This isn't him lashing out over Slash's death. It's him showing foresight and carrying out a long-term plan.

Imagine some of us were to wake up tomorrow forcibly turned into a different gender, or skin color, or sexual identity, or what have you. And that the change is permanent, as far as we know. And that we're then told who was responsible for it. Would you go after that individual? How would you feel? Any less of a person for suddenly not looking like you used to? Sure, anger is the expected primary emotion. At first. But, I mean... Mutants are pretty much a minority. Or a metaphor for IRL minorities. Is it that bad, that wrong, to belong to a minority? How many people feel they've been biologically forced from birth to take on a different identity than the one they'd be most comfortable with? Should they gang up on their parents and tear them limb from limb too...? Bear in mind, I detest SJW sentiment. But this is genuinely one of the few times when it's entirely justified to address the subject of minorities and their treatment by others.

What we know is that there is now enough of a mutant population in New York City to warrant the creation of Mutant Town. Hob wanted to show the humans how their kind treats mutants. So far, so good: the newly mutated humans are being rounded up and put in a ghetto. Hob will face a reckoning, no doubt, but what about after? He was always thinking long-term. He truly cares about mutants. He wasn't going to do what he did at the campaign just to die shortly after, at the hands of his own "children" to boot. After the initial rage against him has subsided and those people realize how unjustly they're being treated for being different... After the EPF goons come marching by in the night and Null makes her pitch... After the 100th time other humans call them freaks... How long do you think it will take for the mutants to realize, one way or another, that Hob was right all along and entirely justified in doing what he did after all? Long-term, maybe even after he's gone, is there really any other way that this ends other than with a statue of Old Hob somewhere in Mutant Town? Think about it.

Also, the guy is pretty much TMNT's Magneto, as has been said countless times. I can't imagine this series without him. He should be here for as long as the Turtles are. And he should be characterized as their mirror image with a twist, much like how Otto Octavius is Peter Parker without the benefit of being raised in a loving household, or how Batman is just as insane as his rogues gallery but still retains his sense of justice. Hob should be presented as a moral foil. As what the Turtles, and especially Raph, would be like if they hadn't been raised by Splinter. There but for the grace of a mutant rat...

Just my two cents on the whole situation going forward. I hope I managed to make some sense.

[daggio]

As I said before, I hope there are at least a few character deaths after this arc ends to raise the stakes. And not minor characters like those two Elite Guard that Natsu gunned down.

Karai and her mutants and Natsu should not get away with what they've done, I'm still predicting Hun might die or sacrifice himself for Casey (maybe?), and I think Metalhead might blow up. Besides that I don't think Hob will die but he'll be an outcast among the rest of the Mutanimals now and of course the Turtles.

You know, I was thinking about this concept awhile ago and realized that I think only 3 major characters have died (in the present) since this series began....Shredder, Krang, and Slash. I mite be forgetting someone, but that's who i can think of. And with the possibility of Shredder coming back to life (again), that would leave Krang and Slash. Personally, i dont view Darius Dun or Hayashi Toru or Victor as major characters, but they would be second tier, i guess, behind major.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You know, I was thinking about this concept awhile ago and realized that I think only 3 major characters have died (in the present) since this series began....Shredder, Krang, and Slash. I mite be forgetting someone, but that's who i can think of. And with the possibility of Shredder coming back to life (again), that would leave Krang and Slash. Personally, i dont view Darius Dun or Hayashi Toru or Victor as major characters, but they would be second tier, i guess, behind major.

I'd agree with you there. But at least Darius Dunn was more of a character than frickin' Victor. :tlol:

[MikeandRaph87]

I'd agree with you there. But at least Darius Dunn was more of a character than frickin' Victor. :tlol:

Both were fodder to prove the formidably of the Foot Clan under Shredder. Five character deaths at this point along with several one issue characters such as mob figures and foot elite. We may lose someone aside form Metalhead blowing up a second time before #100 is over.

Just give me a good story. I am glad to see the direction with Baxter Stockman. He is still human and while as always under someone's thumb he is his own at the same time. I am interested in seeing what role Rat King is going to play. He seems poised to be a help to Splinter instead of a hindrance to them per usual.

[daggio]

I am interested in seeing what role Rat King is going to play. He seems poised to be a help to Splinter instead of a hindrance to them per usual.

Of course he does, after all back during the feast of the Pantheon he outright said he wants to sabotage Kitsune in the Game. And since Karai's dominance is more or less directly/indirectly the result of Kitsune, Rat King is probably thinking "I wont let her get further along".

[Utrommaniac]

I can say though, we should hopefully - finally- get Leatherhead doing something.

With the way he feels about mutation, I'd be disappointed if he doesn't open a big, fat, 5-alarm spicy can of whoop-@$$ on Hob.

[MikeandRaph87]

Of course he does, after all back during the feast of the Pantheon he outright said he wants to sabotage Kitsune in the Game. And since Karai's dominance is more or less directly/indirectly the result of Kitsune, Rat King is probably thinking "I wont let her get further along".

Since they are both clearly evil I was not sure if they would be on the same page. Also, Rat King stated the above in #71, while we are at #98 so its been a little while.

[ChosenOne]

Since they are both clearly evil I was not sure if they would be on the same page. Also, Rat King stated the above in #71, while we are at #98 so its been a little while.

For us. They're immortal.

Plus, Kitsune has been pulling Karai's strings all along. Karai winning means Kitsune gets a chance to bring the Dragon back, and Rat King doesn't want that.

[MikeandRaph87]

For us. They're immortal.

Plus, Kitsune has been pulling Karai's strings all along. Karai winning means Kitsune gets a chance to bring the Dragon back, and Rat King doesn't want that.

So Splinter will bring Oroku Saki back as Karai brings the Dragon back who will not be one and the same? Who else would be the vessel? Or would Oroku Saki be the vessel against his will and have a battle of wills with the dragon and ultimately win, dying for good redeemed?

[ChosenOne]

So Splinter will bring Oroku Saki back as Karai brings the Dragon back who will not be one and the same? Who else would be the vessel? Or would Oroku Saki be the vessel against his will and have a battle of wills with the dragon and ultimately win, dying for good redeemed?

All very good questions, but I haven't a clue where this is going unless if it's to say that Metalhead probably won't make it past #99.

And speaking of #99... Another little tease of things to come! (https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1178726789738156032)

[daggio]

What would this 100th issue be without Kitsune? So it looks her and Rat King are both gonna try to help their respective pawns.

[ChosenOne]

Something I've been wondering: what if the current state of affairs was the Rat King's plan all along? I mean, he's the one who pretty much introduced the kids to the Turtles. In a very twisted and roundabout way, mind you. But without the children, Splinter would've just stepped aside for Karai and Kitsune would get a clear(er?) shot at bringing the Dragon back. So maybe Rat King knew what would eventually happen if he rounded up a bunch of orphans, made the Turtles save them, and let them think it was their own idea all along to take in the kids in order to cause a split in the Foot further down the line and a reason for the Turtles to move against Karai. Whatever the case may be, I'm sure we'll see at least a passing reference to them during Splinter and RK's pow-wow.

[Utrommaniac]

I mean, that would certainly explain why Leo was able to defeat him so easily.


Because he LET him "defeat" him.

[Igglet]

I'd be cool with the Rat King taking the role of the big bad after the Dragon.

[daggio]

Something I've been wondering: what if the current state of affairs was the Rat King's plan all along? I mean, he's the one who pretty much introduced the kids to the Turtles. In a very twisted and roundabout way, mind you. But without the children, Splinter would've just stepped aside for Karai and Kitsune would get a clear(er?) shot at bringing the Dragon back. So maybe Rat King knew what would eventually happen if he rounded up a bunch of orphans, made the Turtles save them, and let them think it was their own idea all along to take in the kids in order to cause a split in the Foot further down the line and a reason for the Turtles to move against Karai. Whatever the case may be, I'm sure we'll see at least a passing reference to them during Splinter and RK's pow-wow.

I definitely agree with you, especially when you you take into account that Leo and Splinter were the only two who mysteriously had the same vision (at the same time) of RK leading people to their deaths off a bridge. Way back in #36, RK implied he would use the two of them for his moves when he needed them. And what better way to create chaos and possibly even throw some chaos into Kitsunes plans (tho the whole thing has helped Kitsune so far then anything).

[shredder orokusaki]

Splinter will be killed very soon! And i will take my revenge!

[ChosenOne]

Splinter will be killed very soon! And i will take my revenge!

In the meantime, take your medication.

[ChosenOne]

More new glimpses of the escalating conflict! (https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1179482417817481216)

Turtles and Mutanimals vs the EPF! What is Karai doing? What are Casey and Jennika doing? Could this wait be any harder?!

[MikeandRaph87]

That accounts for Herman, but where is Mutagen Man?

[daggio]

That accounts for Herman, but where is Mutagen Man?

Secret operative for the EPF :lol:

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

That accounts for Herman, but where is Mutagen Man?

He’s kindof a liability in the field with his glass dome head. Arguably more than Pete. I’m honestly curious at this point if Seymour is ever going to demonstrate some unique ability for the group or if he’s just there as the mascot and sympathetic freak. Null was quite upset about losing him back in the Mutanimals mini, was it ever established why?

[Utrommaniac]

I think because he was one of the more extreme experiments they were putting together?

But yeah, he would be kept aside doing other things to keep him safe. Same with Pete.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Maybe Rat King is like Q in Next Generation, reckless in some senses but not truly evil.

I like that this version of Rat King is like his Mirage counterpart in the sense that he and Splinter are tied together by some cosmic force and he actually does have Splinter's best interests at heart die to him being a rat.

A good king has the best interests of his subjects at heart.

[daggio]

Maybe Rat King is like Q in Next Generation, reckless in some senses but not truly evil.

I like that this version of Rat King is like his Mirage counterpart in the sense that he and Splinter are tied together by some cosmic force and he actually does have Splinter's best interests at heart die to him being a rat.

A good king has the best interests of his subjects at heart.

Plus, RK out right said back in the Feast of the Pantheon that he wants to throw chaos into Kitsunes plans. I'm guessing he probably wants Splinter to escape to throw chaos into Kitsunes plans since, I'm sure, Splinter being imprisoned is probably something Kitsune would like (probably even Splinter dead) as she implied way back to Karai right before she met with Splinter, when things were good.

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

You know...it strikes me that since the IDW Turtles have canonically teamed with the Ghostbusters, they really should ask for their opinion on how to handle supernatural threats like the pantheon. Or did they address that?

Edit: Doh, never mind, separate dimensions. I really need to actually read that crossover.

That said, Donnie incorporating Ghostbuster tech into something to deal with the Pantheon would be neat.

[MikeandRaph87]

You know...it strikes me that since the IDW Turtles have canonically teamed with the Ghostbusters, they really should ask for their opinion on how to handle supernatural threats like the pantheon. Or did they address that?

Edit: Doh, never mind, separate dimensions. I really need to actually read that crossover.

That said, Donnie incorporating Ghostbuster tech into something to deal with the Pantheon would be neat.

Chi-You of the Pantheon was the first one they met and orchestrated the events of the TMNT's first encounter with The Ghostbusters.
https://turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Chi-You

[AlZarkovski]

First look:
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[ChosenOne]

Oh, man, I love that insight into his character and backstory! Still two weeks away, though... :cry:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I still hate brain baby midget rocket Bishop.

But that's still pretty damn good. :tcool:

[Utrommaniac]

Boy, they put that Utrom back together pretty well after dissecting it "piece by piece", didn't they???

Still waiting on those "monsters" that spooked the president so badly though.

[ChosenOne]

I'm guessing these (https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1185005937536299008) come immediately after those Bishop Jr. pages.

[Utrommaniac]

The lemur guy!

One moment, Jeffery Horvitz an officer of the law, chasing mutants that endanger his world. In the next moment, he becomes one himself, along with some of the civilians he was sworn to protect.
Yet another strange event...in the Twilight Zone.

[ChosenOne]

At least now that we know what he mutated into, it'll be easier to keep an eye on the guy. :D

And boy, Bishop really was dumb enough to attack those civilians... Mutant or not, they're still American citizens. Victims of a terrorist attack, even. There's no way this will end well for him once the President hears about it. I see the EPF being disbanded in the very near future.

[lonewarrior20]

So I wonder how many promenate business people were in that crowd? Sophie really hope you do a 5 issue spin off mini series following some of the people in the crowd. And is that mona lisa behind the bear?

[CyberCubed]

Hopefully they can wrap up these plotlines in the next 2 issues, waiting another 2-3 years to cover this stuff would be crazy. We’re still waiting on Null and Ch’rell post issue 100 too.

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

Boy, they put that Utrom back together pretty well after dissecting it "piece by piece", didn't they???

Still waiting on those "monsters" that spooked the president so badly though.

I mean, to a man from the 1950s who didn't grow up with years of 'sympathetic monsters' in television I'm pretty sure seeing an Utrom would be positively horrifying. Especially in real life.

Okay! Mutant aftermath, turns out Herman was in hiding the whole time. Pretty clever move by Hob and Ray there. Can't exactly say I'm impressed by your seeming idea to 'rescue' the new mutants. In what universe does Hob think these people whose lives he just ruined and whose bodies he just mutilated wouldn't tear him apart and put his head on a pike as soon as they get a third of their wits about them?

Course Bishop has to one up him by actually attacking the mutants, including at least one EPF lemur. That's...not very smart on his part...

I do appreciate the art style here, really emphasizing the body horror the transformations and not making this suddenly a furry convention.

[ChosenOne]

In what universe does Hob think these people whose lives he just ruined and whose bodies he just mutilated wouldn't tear him apart and put his head on a pike as soon as they get a third of their wits about them?

Uh... In the one where the same person who mutated them is now offering them the (only) chance to be whisked away from certain death at the hands of two giant snapping turtles and/or a wetworks squad? Hob's plan is more ingenious than it seems. Stay tuned, I'd say.

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

Uh... In the one where the same person who mutated them is now offering them the (only) chance to be whisked away from certain death at the hands of two giant snapping turtles and/or a wetworks squad? Hob's plan is more ingenious than it seems. Stay tuned, I'd say.

I mean yeah, but it depends on Bishop being that much stupider, lol.

*sigh* I’m not the sort of person to nitpick such things normally but this bit bugged me. We’ll see.

[ChosenOne]

I mean yeah, but it depends on Bishop being that much stupider, lol.

Looks like Bishop gladly obliged! :lol: Does he really not know and remember where he is? Right out in the open in the middle of Manhattan with cameras everywhere? Or does he just not care? Is he that dementedly obsessed (and impervious to the irony that he's actually the biggest monster there)? Yikes... I bet Hob was counting on exactly this happening. Realistically, there's no way a ragtag group of mutants such as the Turtles and the Mutanimals could take down an organization of EPF's stature. No, this is how they defeat Bishop: through terrible PR fueled by his own insanity. Poetic justice as its finest.

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

I will confess this is rather in character for Bishop to act this way. His tactics have constantly escalated things going back to the Triceratron War.

[ChosenOne]

I agree. But he had the President's approval on that one and it was an invasion. He's acting of his own volition now, attacking completely innocent civilians... No way this ends well for him. My guess is, his exo-suit is destroyed in battle and Bishop himself is arrested (by Kara?) either in this issue or in #100. If used right, he could become IDW TMNT's equivalent to TWD's Negan and pop up later on to help fight something even worse. He did kill the Mutanimals' "Glenn"...

[TomWaltz]

Uh... In the one where the same person who mutated them is now offering them the (only) chance to be whisked away from certain death at the hands of two giant snapping turtles and/or a wetworks squad? Hob's plan is more ingenious than it seems. Stay tuned, I'd say.

Four "S" Strategy

Create a Situation (False Flag).
Present an "imminent danger" to individual/group Safety.
Offer a "Solution."
Create a new Status Quo.

Hob has studied history.

Talk soon...

Tom W.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Four "S" Strategy

Create a Situation (False Flag).
Present an "imminent danger" to individual/group Safety.
Offer a "Solution."
Create a new Status Quo.

Hob has studied history.

Talk soon...

Tom W.

Hob may be a mutant, but that mutant is a true 'MURICAN.

[ChosenOne]

Hob may be a mutant, but that mutant is a true 'MURICAN.

Hey, now, everyone knows mutagen can't melt steel beams!

[ChosenOne]

An extended look at Bebop and Rocksteady's return! (https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1186429679986565120)

[daggio]

YYYEEESSS!!!:D

Karai's team don't look especially enthusiastic about these three being back. But I have to admit, I'm more than a little curious to find out why Karai is addressing an auditorium of people.

[ChosenOne]

YYYEEESSS!!!:D

Karai's team don't look especially enthusiastic about these three being back. But I have to admit, I'm more than a little curious to find out why Karai is addressing an auditorium of people.

She's asserting herself as the head of NYC's underworld, much like Shredder did at the end of City Fall.

[MikeandRaph87]

An extended look at Bebop and Rocksteady's return! (https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1186429679986565120)

Where did the dinosaur come from?

[ChosenOne]

Where did the dinosaur come from?

That's Anchovy, Pepperoni's "nemesis" from way back. Literally.

[daggio]

Where did the dinosaur come from?

Anchovy appeared in Bebop and Rocksteady Destroy Everything and reappeared in Bebop and Rocksteady Hit the Road as their companion, and slowly got mutated.

[CyberCubed]

So much crammed into 2 issues, this is a lot.

[ChosenOne]

Oh, please, please, please let the EPF vs the Foot Clan (https://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/1186688719102889985) become reality!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh, please, please, please let the EPF vs the Foot Clan (https://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/1186688719102889985) become reality!

It kinda has to... Karai has a ton of mutants on her payroll, and Bishop has a grudge.

[ChosenOne]

It kinda has to... Karai has a ton of mutants on her payroll, and Bishop has a grudge.

Indeed, it would be the series' single greatest missed opportunity if Bishop and Karai never met, and inevitably came to blows over a number of reasons. Plus, there's no way the Turtles stand a chance against either of them unless they make it a three-way war.

[MikeandRaph87]

Anchovy appeared in Bebop and Rocksteady Destroy Everything and reappeared in Bebop and Rocksteady Hit the Road as their companion, and slowly got mutated.

I remember Anchovy, but had no idea that the dinosaur grew up.

[ChosenOne]

I hope Pepperoni and Anchovy get to reunite at some point. They used to be adorable together.

[Ninjinister]

Where did the dinosaur come from?

Did you not read any of the Bebop and Rocksteady minis? He's in both.

[MikeandRaph87]

Did you not read any of the Bebop and Rocksteady minis? He's in both.

I did. Hit The Road however got messed up in order because my LCS changed hands during its release so I read it about the pace of Shredder In Hell's release dates through reorders and some of it became lost due to that. So him growing up or mutating was lost in the shuffle.

[daggio]

I hope Pepperoni and Anchovy get to reunite at some point. They used to be adorable together.

And maybe Pepperoni will get mutated also. And if the conventions we saw in 20/20 continue, maybe that means that she will eventually.:D

[AlZarkovski]

Full preview: https://graphicpolicy.com/2019/10/29/preview-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-99/

[CyberCubed]

and a final showdown between Donatello and Metalhead will prove explosive!

Well...that more or less implies Metalhead will blow up I guess. :lol:

[Utrommaniac]

I think we've all figured that out, but..

...does Area 51 already know about Burnow Island? No wonder Krang was in such a rush to get the Technodrome done.

"STOCKMAN, THE NEVADA MEN ARE ONTO ME."
"...You been gambling in Vegas lately?"

[ChosenOne]

Seeing the issue start with a flashback to Bishop's past makes me think he goes down in this one. Or maybe I'm just all Gimple-d out.

[CyberCubed]

Metalhead and possibly Hun I think will be the two villain deaths by the end of issue 100. I think Karai will be imprisoned in some form, no idea what will happen to her mutants. Bebop/Rocksteady will likely retreat again but I wouldn’t mind seeing Koya and Bludgeon finally offed.

[funatic]

I hope Pepperoni and Anchovy get to reunite at some point. They used to be adorable together.

Seeing as Sophie Campbell is picking up the series at 101, I’d say the odds are good of a dinoreunion.

[daggio]

Well, we got a lot to look forward to tmrw. A big melee involving the EPF, new mutants, and "Harold's Angels", as I'm gonna call them, an attempt to rescue Harold and Libby with a fight between Don and Metalhead, Splinter and RK talking about things, B&R&A all returning, maybe some shenanigans with Baxter, April, and Null. And maybe we will get some answers about the whole thing with Honeycutt and Neutrinos, and maybe answers about Leatherhead. The former, I'm willing to bet is being saved for another time post 100. The later, I can see Leatherhead appearing now especially with humans turned mutants running around. I can see him appearing and saying "this is all wrong" :lol:

[ChosenOne]

(...) "Harold's Angels", as I'm gonna call them (...)

It hadn't even occurred to me that there are finally three of them now. :D Though Jennika's never met Harold, has she?

[daggio]

It hadn't even occurred to me that there are finally three of them now. :D Though Jennika's never met Harold, has she?

Well, not while she was conscious anyway. Maybe off-panel.

[Utrommaniac]

Well, that wasn't quite the "Bebop and Rocksteady get a taste of their own medicine" I would have liked, but okay.


Same with the Metalhead finale.

And Hob just...Hob. No. What the sh!t, "saving mutants". They're gonna kick your hairy butt, Hob.

BUT WHERE IS LEATHERHEAD????

[ChosenOne]

Holy. ****.

[lonewarrior20]

Looking at the map it looks like the mutagen bomb covered about a 4th of new york. I so can't wait for 101.

[Enscripture]

UGH that last panel throws off Shredder in Hell based on Kitsune it obviously can't happen after #99. I'd put it after the "Road to War" FCBD recap story and before #94. The only other break is between #97+#98 but that doesn't flow good

[CyberCubed]

Old Hob is an idiot, lol.

The action is good and I like the confrontations. Rat King/Splinter wasn’t anywhere as good as Mirage City at War Rat King/Splinter but that was to be expected. I’m glad they dealt with Metalhead and got him out of the way early.

Interested to see how the finale goes, I hope for some deaths. Some of these characters have been around too long and I’d like to see a bloodbath to clean the slate.

[Igglet]

That's what I've been waiting for. THAT'S good.

[CyberCubed]

Hm, just realized we didn't see Harold and his wife follow the Turtles through to the Foot HQ's, yet the EPF were right behind them. So uh...where did they go?

[ChosenOne]

Hm, just realized we didn't see Harold and his wife follow the Turtles through to the Foot HQ's, yet the EPF were right behind them. So uh...where did they go?

They were told to teleport somewhere safe, ergo, not the Foot HQ.

[daggio]

The way Splinter got outta that jam reminded me of Uma Thurman escaping the underground casket in Kill Bill :lol:

Heck, the way the ending was coming together, I was reminded of GTA 5, the ending where the three work together to kill all their enemies.

[ChosenOne]

The way Splinter got outta that jam reminded me of Uma Thurman escaping the underground casket in Kill Bill :lol:

Good call! I was definitely being reminded of something there, but I couldn't quite tell what.

[daggio]

Interested to see how the finale goes, I hope for some deaths. Some of these characters have been around too long and I’d like to see a bloodbath to clean the slate.

I hope Bebop and Rocksteady survive. Maybe the two Slash clones will become their new friends :lol:

[Cloudrunner]

Alopex seemed to notice Kitsune's presence at the end there. Wonder if that's a subtle hint at some of those spirit powers she showed before.

[Utrommaniac]

Gotta say though, something felt reaaaaally good about how Bebop and Rocksteady didn't know what to do with the Slash clones, after how invincible they were in their minis.

[ChosenOne]

Gotta say though, something felt reaaaaally good about how Bebop and Rocksteady didn't know what to do with the Slash clones, after how invincible they were in their minis.

They're still the closest thing to invincible we've seen in this comic. Doesn't mean they can't get batted around some, but they'll bounce back.

Who else thinks Splinter won't survive #100, especially now after his convo with RK? Those are damn ominous parting words...

[daggio]

Who else thinks Splinter won't survive #100, especially now after his convo with RK? Those are damn ominous parting words...

Splinter is the only one I can see dying next issue. There might be more, but him I can see dying.

And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people got it. The solicitation for 101 doesn't exactly make me believe that things are gonna end on a positive note.

[CyberCubed]

I still really hope they end some of the villains. There's only so many times you can see the Turtles fight Koya and Bludgeon especially before it gets old. I mean this feels like the umpteenth time. And after issue 50 we already had Karai and her mutants "retreat" for awhile so it'd be repetitive if the same thing happens again.

Most of the current villains besides Bishop were around before issue 50, so we've seen them a long time.

[daggio]

Alopex seemed to notice Kitsune's presence at the end there. Wonder if that's a subtle hint at some of those spirit powers she showed before.

I agree with that cuz I was wondering how she knew and everyone else kept fighting, even Leo.....unless she saw through a skylight :lol:

[ChosenOne]

I still really hope they end some of the villains. There's only so many times you can see the Turtles fight Koya and Bludgeon especially before it gets old. I mean this feels like the umpteenth time. And after issue 50 we already had Karai and her mutants "retreat" for awhile so it'd be repetitive if the same thing happens again.

Koya and Bludgeon don't even feel like a threat anymore, like they're just there to pad out Karai's forces. Not that Bludgeon ever felt particularly threatening... His very first appearance, we saw him having trouble with either Tragg or Granitor, I can't recall which. Not exactly impressive.

Those two have worn their welcome.

[TomWaltz]

Good call! I was definitely being reminded of something there, but I couldn't quite tell what.

Good call indeed! Bobby came up with the great idea to riff on that famous scene.

And I'll give you bonus points if you can tell me what the Rat King/Splinter exchange (besides the wall punching... that's all Kill Bill) is inspired by.

Talk soon...

Tom W.

[ChosenOne]

Good call indeed! Bobby came up with the great idea to riff on that famous scene.

And I'll give you bonus points if you can tell me what the Rat King/Splinter exchange (besides the wall punching... that's all Kill Bill) is inspired by.

Talk soon...

Tom W.

I don't know if that's what you're referring to, but Rat King's "I find your lack of faith disappointing" certainly rings a bell. 8) "Become my loyal knight" and "like walking through air" cinch it for me. That "Feast!" might as well have been "Goooooood!". But I do have a tendency to overanalyze...

[MikeandRaph87]

So what happens between Shredder In Hell#4 and TMNT#99 that allows The Dragon to return if Oroku Saki rejected himself as a vessel?

Clever portal maneuver bringing everyone together.

Can Metalhead join the side of the angels again?

[CyberCubed]

Can Metalhead join the side of the angels again?

If I were Donatello I'd dismantle Metalhead once and for all. I wouldn't run the risk of activating him again with the possibility of him becoming sentient again.

[daggio]

If I were Donatello I'd dismantle Metalhead once and for all. I wouldn't run the risk of activating him again with the possibility of him becoming sentient again.

But to think, Metalhead might've been an ally had Donnie not double-crossed him back in his Macro last year.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This was really, really good. Can't wait to see how it wraps up.

Man, it was just really damn good. Kudos all 'round. :tgrin:

[ChosenOne]

This was really, really good. Can't wait to see how it wraps up.

Man, it was just really damn good. Kudos all 'round. :tgrin:

Agreed on all counts!

One of the very few possible ways I could see #100 topping this is if everyone there has to begrudgingly team up against Kitsune, Ocho and the Dragon.

[CyberCubed]

Hopefully Raph gets a big role next issue, he disappeared after like 2 pages here.

But I dunno how next issue could play out, given issue 101 seems like things are at relative peace. I guess maybe the Dragon doesn't get ressurected as planned, or it gets sealed up immediately again?

Also they probably remove Karai from power next issue, so I'm looking forward to her defeat and what becomes of her minions. I guess Bishop will just retreat again, the guy has had one failure after another since Burnow Island, I think Bishop needs a big win eventually.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Also they probably remove Karai from power next issue, so I'm looking forward to her defeat and what becomes of her minions. I guess Bishop will just retreat again, the guy has had one failure after another since Burnow Island, I think Bishop needs a big win eventually.

Killing Slash doesn't count as a big win? Although he did get kicked off Burnow Island, so I see your point. :trazz:

[ChosenOne]

Also they probably remove Karai from power next issue, so I'm looking forward to her defeat and what becomes of her minions.

One thing that struck me about that final page is that the imagery very much resembles that of a human sacrifice. Why would Kitsune require the sword for the ritual unless she plans to use it on someone to bring Saki/the Dragon back from the dead with the victim's life force? Might that someone be Karai herself? Not only is she a descendant of Saki's, she also proved her worth as a potential sacrifice by retrieving the sword in the first place. Hmm...

[daggio]

One thing that struck me about that final page is that the imagery very much resembles that of a human sacrifice. Why would Kitsune require the sword for the ritual unless she plans to use it on someone to bring Saki/the Dragon back from the dead with the victim's life force? Might that someone be Karai herself? Not only is she a descendant of Saki's, she also proved her worth as a potential sacrifice by retrieving the sword in the first place. Hmm...

Good point. The early drawings show a potential showdown between Karai and Ocho, maybe for just that reason.

[MikeandRaph87]

Good point. The early drawings show a potential showdown between Karai and Ocho, maybe for just that reason.

It would play well into the ot as presented and it's odd how Ocho comes with the sword and is waiting with Kitsune. Ocho has been playing Karai all along.

[Tardigrade]

Maybe in issue 100, we will have a showdown Karai+Splinter+Leonardo vs Kitsune+Ocho+the Dragon.

If Saki comes back to life, I could see him betray Kitsune in the middle of the fight and join Karai + Splinter for a last stand. If he comes back, I do think it won't be for long.

[ChosenOne]

Maybe in issue 100, we will have a showdown Karai+Splinter+Leonardo vs Kitsune+Ocho+the Dragon.

If Saki comes back to life, I could see him betray Kitsune in the middle of the fight and join Karai + Splinter for a last stand. If he comes back, I do think it won't be for long.

Okay, now I want that to happen! :o So many ways this could shake out, and all of them sound so good... The IDW crew is spoiling us.

[lonewarrior20]

I hope the fish lady finds her husband.

[daggio]

Maybe in issue 100, we will have a showdown Karai+Splinter+Leonardo vs Kitsune+Ocho+the Dragon.

If Saki comes back to life, I could see him betray Kitsune in the middle of the fight and join Karai + Splinter for a last stand. If he comes back, I do think it won't be for long.

That maybe I can see but maybe it'll be Takeshi Tatsuo.
Granted SiH 5 hasn't come out yet:x, and that maybe would've given some good insight. With that said, if what we've seen in SiH so far is gonna stick, maybe Saki comes back and stops what's happening. Far-fetched maybe, and without #5 out all details are hazy still.

[Cloudrunner]

I hope the fish lady finds her husband.

Sounds like a new micro series: The Search for Fish Husband.

[ChosenOne]

Sounds like a new micro series: The Search for Fish Husband.

TMNT: Finding Hubby!

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

Clearly she's the mom of Patricia the fish lady from the future issue of the Turtles in Time mini.

[TomWaltz]

I hope the fish lady finds her husband.

I love this comment! So do I, lonewarrior20... so do I.

Talk soon...

Tom W.

[CyberCubed]

I’m surprised none of the random mutants were cameos of established mutant characters. I mean we know Mona Lisa appears in issue 101 so i’m surprised we didn’t see her in the background somewhere.

They could have thrown in some cameos of unused mutants this series like Rahzar or Groundchuck/Dirtbag or something.

[ChosenOne]

I’m surprised none of the random mutants were cameos of established mutant characters. I mean we know Mona Lisa appears in issue 101 so i’m surprised we didn’t see her in the background somewhere.

They could have thrown in some cameos of unused mutants this series like Rahzar or Groundchuck/Dirtbag or something.

Wanna bet at least one of those will be part of the new crew Hob puts together?

[CyberCubed]

A lot of the designs looked rather generic, so I don’t think so.

[ChosenOne]

A lot of the designs looked rather generic, so I don’t think so.

No, I meant at least one of the characters you mentioned.