Will Jennika stay in TMNT forever???

[TMNTChris1980]

What are your thoughts on Jennika being included in all incarnations of the TMNT going forward? Do you think that this will remain an IDW thing, or do you think the next toon will add a female turtle, and later it gets brought into Movies, and everything else TMNT?

[Andrew NDB]

I think the idea -- since fans seem to be OK with it in IDW -- of including a female TMNT in larger mediums will be too irresistible to studios. To appeal to a female audience (which in any boardroom is probably tricky to pin down with TMNT) and riding the "the future is female" thing and all.

I don't have a problem with it, personally... in IDW. It fits in that universe just fine.

[scribblesartist]

No!! She’s new, ppl want to see here cause she’s the 5th turtle, and a woman. Like all good things. You don’t want them to go old or stale. If the writers are smart. Jennika will be around for a few arcs and be Gone for a few. There not careful they can saturate the pages with her. Fingers crossed. I would hope they won’t do that.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't see why she should go away. In IDW there are tons of mutants... the "the Turtles are alone and isolated, first and last of their kind" thing (which personally seems to be one of the biggest hallmarks of the source material) has been jettisoned. So why not leave her?

Tons of directions to go with her. For me, a story where she returns to being human somehow and then chooses to re-mutate would be interesting.

[Damo]

It's certainly possible, but her origin is very tied into IDW. The best way to define her personality is that she was so eager to escape her crappy life she embraced the Foot Clan wholeheartedly since it gave her purpose, and now she's finding herself awkward at having a life outside the Foot Clan.

"Good at being an assassin, still trying to figure out everything else isn't bad story fodder (worked for Cassandra Cain), but it isn't something that would work into the story right from the start.

That said, if the book doesn't make a royal mess of things, I could easily see her ending up one of those "there's a good chance they'll show up, eventually, in some form" characters, like Bebop & Rocksteady, Casey, and Karai.

[oldmanwinters]

I think the four brothers formula has worked so well for so long, I'd rather that stay the norm for the franchise. It's fine to have the other characters in the expanded universe for guest appearances, of course.

I never really thought Jennika was terribly engaging as a human despite nearly 50 issues of the IDW series. Ask any casual fan about her and they'd be like "huh?" Ask any regular reader of the IDW series up to that point and they'd be like "oh, yeah, she's the ninja girl who helps Splinter."

But suddenly expose her to mutagen and everybody loses their mind like it's some groundbreaking twist. There's nothing about Jennika up to this point that I find truly distinguishes her as a character. Alopex and Angel/Nobody had far more development in the IDW universe.

[neatoman]

I don't know about "forever" but I wouldn't be surprised if she pops up elsewhere.

[Cloudrunner]

I'd rather have Alopex return in future iterations over Jennika.

[Andrew NDB]

I'd rather have Alopex return in future iterations over Jennika.

Alopex is basically the return of Ninjara. If Alopex shows up in something else it will be Ninjara Mark III.

[oldmanwinters]

Alopex is basically the return of Ninjara. If Alopex shows up in something else it will be Ninjara Mark III.

I always assumed there was some legal-rights ambiguity regarding the Ninjara name, which is why they created a new character with almost the same M.O. for the comics and then went one step further by re-designing her Ninjara-like for the Nick toon.

Of course, IDW went ahead and used vintage Ninjara for the 30th Anniversary issue, so who knows?

[Andrew NDB]

I always assumed there was some legal-rights ambiguity regarding the Ninjara name, which is why they created a new character with almost the same M.O. for the comics and then went one step further by re-designing her Ninjara-like for the Nick toon.

Doubtful there was legal stuff. But let's face it, "Ninjara" is kind of a dumb name and IDW probably didn't want to use it. Her real name was fine, though: Umeko.

[CyberCubed]

She won’t show up elsewhere.

The fact that Old Hob, the breakout new IDW character who has existed since 2011, 9 years ago now, has never appeared in any of the cartoons or movies since, should make that obvious.

[Ninjinister]

Doubtful there was legal stuff. But let's face it, "Ninjara" is kind of a dumb name and IDW probably didn't want to use it. Her real name was fine, though: Umeko.

Nintendo didn't seem to mind

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then again nintendo sometimes uses some pretty dumb names anyway

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

She won’t show up elsewhere.

The fact that Old Hob, the breakout new IDW character who has existed since 2011, 9 years ago now, has never appeared in any of the cartoons or movies since, should make that obvious.

That's...

Actually pretty spot on. And a bit depressing. Old Hob is a fantastic character, as we all know. :tgrin:

[Andrew NDB]

That's...

Actually pretty spot on. And a bit depressing. Old Hob is a fantastic character, as we all know. :tgrin:

Old Hob didn't make headlines everywhere, though. Jennika did, and got a lot of mainstream attention.

[Zog The Magnificent]

I feel like going foward, Old Hob and The IDW Pantheon are IDW's signature contributions to the TMNT toybox. Sure, Old Hob hasn't been used anywhere else yet, but give it time. I mean, Lord Dregg was in the old series and didn't get used again until almost 21 years later. Additionally, while he's existed since 2011, Hob wasn't really an interesting character until a couple years down the line.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Old Hob didn't make headlines everywhere, though. Jennika did, and got a lot of mainstream attention.

Yeah.

But Jennika herself isn't going to carry over. I'll bet you Mirage comics for Rise of the TMNT DVDs that at some point in the future, the fifth Turtle is a mutated April O'Neil.

[Zog The Magnificent]

I'll bet you Mirage comics for Rise of the TMNT DVDs that at some point in the future, the fifth Turtle is a mutated April O'Neil.

Archie already beat TMNT 20XX to the punch.

[CyberCubed]

You won't ever see a female turtle in cartoons/movies.

[Andrew NDB]

You won't ever see a female turtle in cartoons/movies.

Don't be so sure. Especially when TPTB are probably going, "I don't get it... we gave fans Beebop and Rocksteady and Krang in the last one and it still failed!! What can we possibly try differently this time??"

[TigerClaw]

I think Jennika is here to stay.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You won't ever see a female turtle in cartoons/movies.

Never doubt the marketing appeal of inclusion.

[TigerClaw]

Never doubt the marketing appeal of inclusion.
Don't be surprise if they somehow added Jennika in ROTTMNT.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Don't be surprise if they somehow added Jennika in ROTTMNT.

Is that even still going?

[TigerClaw]

Is that even still going?
Well My Tivo has recorded a lot of episodes. and the last one recorded was from July 28th. But maybe they have more episodes coming. Who knows.

[newfan]

She'd possibly be used again as she seems to have been well recieved so far with how she was written in (I also like the design). That being said, having another turtle as a recurring character and changing the 4 to officially and permanently being a 5 are different things, I don't personally feel a need for the latter but another turtle can work as a character, especially where there are other mutants anyway.

[Damo]

let's face it, "Ninjara" is kind of a dumb name

Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael, Michaelangelo... as the names of ninjas. Man Ray. Mondo Gecko. Ace Duck. Pizza Face. Manmoth. Wyrm. Seymour Gutz, the Mutagen Man.

If anything, I'd argue that the silly and weird names outnumber the serious ones.


The fact that Old Hob, the breakout new IDW character who has existed since 2011, 9 years ago now, has never appeared in any of the cartoons or movies since, should make that obvious.

Hob fits a very different niche. He's another grimdude "villain," which is something the series has an abundance of, and his "enemy of my enemy" schtick wouldn't have worked in Rise or the movies. I think he could have worked in the 2012 cartoon, but honestly I'd say that was the only other thing that could have used him and didn't thus far. Give it time.


You won't ever see a female turtle in cartoons/movies.

Never is a very long time.

She's got a lot in common with Danny from the 1990 movie, Angel from the 2003 series, and Karai from 2012. This is a franchise that loves to play with "there's a youngster on the bad guys' side, that gets redeemed." I'd be amazed if nobody else ever wanted to take a crack at her just based on the way the series keeps going with that concept.

To be clear, I think we're locked into the core concept of the four boys and Splinter being the heart and soul of the franchise, but I can easily see her being one of those hanger-on characters that get introduced after a bit and shows up on a semi-regular basis.

Don't be surprise if they somehow added Jennika in ROTTMNT.

That show can barely remember April exists, I don't see it handling the expanded cast with anything resembling competence.

[CyberCubed]

They discuss Jennika on other forums:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wait-theres-a-fifth-yellow-masked-ninja-turtle-now.145393/

[neatoman]

I was thinking about what exactly sets Jennika apart from the main turtles aside from the superficial details, and all I can really think of is that she priotises orders and loyalty over ethics and morals. Assuming that she's the one who killed Miller it would mean that, while the other turtles felt conflicted about Splinter killing a murderer who should have died hundreds of years ago, she was perfectly fine with killing some innocent guy just because she was ordered to. In fact most of what she does is because she's ordered to.

[MikeandRaph87]

Perhaps that can be a development played with following her mutation. She learns to develop her own mindset and does not necessarily have to agree with those giving orders even if she follows them.

As for her being a permanent fixture, I see it going over better than Venus, but I don't see Jennika being a regular fixture beyond IDW.

[Damo]

I think people forget that Karai was just a late-stage oddity in the Mirage continuity - which was obviously the original continuity, but not as well known - until she showed up in the second season of the 2003 cartoon. A dozen years after she first appeared in the comics.

And now she's considered a mainstay. She was in the 2007 movie, and the IDW comics, and the 2012 cartoon. And she's one of the characters with better odds of appearing in Rise (which is to say "still surprisingly low").

The list of "regular fixtures" in the franchise is fixed and written in stone... until suddenly it turns out it's rather easy to add to it.

[CyberCubed]

Most "modern" TMNT characters, and by that I mean everyone from the 2000's onward, tend not to become series staples. The only two really big breakout characters were Hun and Bishop from the 4kids series, and they've pretty much become staples of the ongoing TMNT mythos now. To a lesser extent Ch'rell, but I don't know if we'll see him in future series.

If you think of every other character created from 2000 onward, they tend to stay in their particular series and never return. Most of the Nick created characters for the 2012 show like Tiger Claw, Fishface, Chris Bradford's Rahzar, etc...have never appeared in anything else. Most of the Rise of the TMNT mutants most likely won't either.

In terms of IDW, Old Hob has existed since 2011...it's now 9 years later and he's never shown up in anything else. I also don't think The Patheon will (or at least their version of the characters), or Alopex, etc. Of course IDW cherry picks characters from all universes and brings them back like Angel, Darius Dun, etc...but that's just this series.

The entire TMNT franchise is always on nostalgia mode with 80's and 90's characters. Most 2000's characters, and since we're now almost in 2020 this is now 20 years worth of characters, tend to be forgotten overtime. As I said above, Hun and Bishop seem to be the only two post Turtlemania that managed to become franchise staples. Let me know when Old Hob shows up in the next TMNT cartoon or comic....

[Raptor86]

Most "modern" TMNT characters, and by that I mean everyone from the 2000's onward, tend not to become series staples. The only two really big breakout characters were Hun and Bishop from the 4kids series, and they've pretty much become staples of the ongoing TMNT mythos now. To a lesser extent Ch'rell, but I don't know if we'll see him in future series.

If you think of every other character created from 2000 onward, they tend to stay in their particular series and never return. Most of the Nick created characters for the 2012 show like Tiger Claw, Fishface, Chris Bradford's Rahzar, etc...have never appeared in anything else. Most of the Rise of the TMNT mutants most likely won't either.

In terms of IDW, Old Hob has existed since 2011...it's now 9 years later and he's never shown up in anything else. I also don't think The Patheon will (or at least their version of the characters), or Alopex, etc. Of course IDW cherry picks characters from all universes and brings them back like Angel, Darius Dun, etc...but that's just this series.

The entire TMNT franchise is always on nostalgia mode with 80's and 90's characters. Most 2000's characters, and since we're now almost in 2020 this is now 20 years worth of characters, tend to be forgotten overtime. As I said above, Hun and Bishop seem to be the only two post Turtlemania that managed to become franchise staples. Let me know when Old Hob shows up in the next TMNT cartoon or comic....

A version of Alopex was in the 2012 cartoon

[sdp]

Karai and black baxter were able to become staples despite not being in the OT. Between IDW and 2012 there are many "new" mutants that really could've been previous already created characters, no reason why Old Hub couldn't have been scratch, Jennika as Venus etc.

[Andrew NDB]

I think people forget that Karai was just a late-stage oddity in the Mirage continuity

I wouldn't say "oddity." Though it is interesting and mostly sad that it's the only incarnation of Karai that isn't related and/or attached at the hip to Oroku Saki.

[Cloudrunner]

A version of Alopex was in the 2012 cartoon

lol, no. A version of Ninjara that they inexplicably named Alopex was in the 2012 cartoon. And now the name is forever tainted by a dumb one-off character that takes priority over the real one in searches.

[newfan]

The difference here is that the other characters mentioned are not a '5th turtle' Depends how much a creator or network/company wants one I guess?

[AquaParade]

As far as enjoyment goes, I think Andrew nailed it by implying that this version works well for IDW. But as for other versions of the franchise, who knows?

I'm fairly open-minded, but I still don't know how I'd feel about the character becoming a mainstay in the franchise. To the point where she's the exciting post-credits scene, in the next TMNT film, to tease a sequel, is interesting to think about, but I really like the four brothers dynamic, at least as far as a foundation.

Slowly expanding into the idea, like IDW has done, is an easier pill for me to swallow, and I can see the potential in it. And i'll just throw out there that whether she is male or female has nothing to do with it, for me. In fact, if there is to be a fifth turtle, throwing a female into the mix makes perfect sense.

And at the end of the day, does it really matter much either way if she's a turtle? That's the question I'm asking myself. She isn't one of the brothers, she's sort of just another member of the misfit tmnt family, as far as I can tell. I could be missing something, as I haven't read every issue in the series.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I like Venus as a character better than Jennika, and would hope that any potential fifth female turtles start life as a turtle and not a human, same as the guys.

[Andrew NDB]

I like Venus as a character better than Jennika, and would hope that any potential fifth female turtles start life as a turtle and not a human, same as the guys.

The same. If things are to ever invoke sexual intrigue it's a bit too weird to imagine a former human having sex with something that, like, used to be a red eared slider in a lake somewhere.

[Cloudrunner]

The same. If things are to ever invoke sexual intrigue it's a bit too weird to imagine a former human having sex with something that, like, used to be a red eared slider in a lake somewhere.

I mean... interspecies romance has existed in pretty much every incarnation of TMNT. And I'm not just talking about Raph and his furry fetish. Even the more kid-oriented 2012 cartoon had Donnie and April.

[Ninjinister]

I like Venus as a character better than Jennika, and would hope that any potential fifth female turtles start life as a turtle and not a human, same as the guys.

Going forward, all of the turtles will be human to begin with.

[Andrew NDB]

Even the more kid-oriented 2012 cartoon had Donnie and April.

And it was freaking weird there, too.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Going forward, all of the turtles will be human to begin with.

Not sure if YOU'RE serious or not, but yeah, somebody's eventually going to do this.

And it will be awful.

[CyberCubed]

Wasn't there some speculation Rise of the TMNT was going to do that? I haven't kept up with the show, did they show the Turtles origins yet in that series?

[neatoman]

And it was freaking weird there, too.

Agreed. Especially because of the whole borderline stalker angle.

[pferreira]

But suddenly expose her to mutagen and everybody loses their mind like it's some groundbreaking twist. There's nothing about Jennika up to this point that I find truly distinguishes her as a character. Alopex and Angel/Nobody had far more development in the IDW universe.Interesting...I had no idea she was in the comic that long. So essentially her character was sort of just there as part of the stories?

I mean, Lord Dregg was in the old series and didn't get used again until almost 21 years later. Additionally, while he's existed since 2011, Hob wasn't really an interesting character until a couple years down the line.Isn't it normally a couple of iterations before a character is defined properly to the point of making an impact?

Don't be so sure. Especially when TPTB are probably going, "I don't get it... we gave fans Beebop and Rocksteady and Krang in the last one and it still failed!! What can we possibly try differently this time??"It's not that type of thinking at the moment. It's more how can we incorporate females into a TMNT film? :roll:

I was thinking about what exactly sets Jennika apart from the main turtles aside from the superficial details, and all I can really think of is that she priotises orders and loyalty over ethics and morals. One of adding a character to help create character conflict is that unless it feels organic there is the problem that it could come across as contrived. No one likes contrived drama. Jennika already appears to have a backstory, the problem is whether it feels artificial or blends in so that in the case of the latter you can see her appear in the opening credits and not bat an eyelid.

Whenever I think of a 5th Turtle in general I think of Poochy from the Simpsons.So if it all fails she'll go back to her home planet? :lol:

[King Kahn]

if she is I am cool with it. I don't see why she would leave the comic. No other new mutants like Hob have yet. We will see if it translates into other mediums outside the IDW universe.

[Zulithe]

Having a fifth turtle and the character being female adds a fresh element. I've seen people discuss it in parts of the internet where TMNT are rarely discussed so it's accomplishing what it set out to do: attract more eyes onto IDW TMNT.

Going forward I think that someday we will eventually see an incarnation of the turtles where one of them is female form the start. Donnie is a good candidate, since he is consistently the least-favored turtle in most iterations it makes him the top candidate to have a major change like that to try to raise the character's appeal. Not saying it should happen, just that I can see it. Because five turtles, while they can make it work especially in the comics, is a lot of characters to juggle when the cast of characters is already pretty big as it is.

[King Kahn]

Having a fifth turtle and the character being female adds a fresh element. I've seen people discuss it in parts of the internet where TMNT are rarely discussed so it's accomplishing what it set out to do: attract more eyes onto IDW TMNT.

Going forward I think that someday we will eventually see an incarnation of the turtles where one of them is female form the start. Donnie is a good candidate, since he is consistently the least-favored turtle in most iterations it makes him the top candidate to have a major change like that to try to raise the character's appeal. Not saying it should happen, just that I can see it. Because five turtles, while they can make it work especially in the comics, is a lot of characters to juggle when the cast of characters is already pretty big as it is.

The Justice League cartoon had more main characters and worked just fine. I don't think too many characters in the main cast would be an issue.

[pferreira]

Going forward I think that someday we will eventually see an incarnation of the turtles where one of them is female form the start. Donnie is a good candidate, since he is consistently the least-favored turtle in most iterations it makes him the top candidate to have a major change like that to try to raise the character's appeal.Yeah no doubt they'll try and gender swap one of the Turtles at some point. I wouldn't put it past them. :(

[ChosenOne]

Yeah no doubt they'll try and gender swap one of the Turtles at some point. I wouldn't put it past them. :(

That would constitute taking things a bit too far, I think. Some folks want representation and diversity? Fine. Create new characters, like Jennika and whoever else. Don't mess with the established classics. And especially, especially don't try the "Come on, it's just a fictional character, why do you care so much?" angle like it's a an automatic KO in the discussion, 'cause that baby cuts both ways.

[Rooish]

Having a fifth turtle and the character being female adds a fresh element. I've seen people discuss it in parts of the internet where TMNT are rarely discussed so it's accomplishing what it set out to do: attract more eyes onto IDW TMNT.

Going forward I think that someday we will eventually see an incarnation of the turtles where one of them is female form the start. Donnie is a good candidate, since he is consistently the least-favored turtle in most iterations it makes him the top candidate to have a major change like that to try to raise the character's appeal. Not saying it should happen, just that I can see it. Because five turtles, while they can make it work especially in the comics, is a lot of characters to juggle when the cast of characters is already pretty big as it is.

I don’t really think that will happen as long as female turtles can be invented.

I am cool with Jennika, especially because she doesn’t have boobs. I do worry that she will take away character development from our main cast. I do like the idea of a Angsty TMNT being the only four of their kind and being all male and unable to continue on their legacy, but the IDW comics are less angsty than Steve Murphy so it works in this case. Plus I think she shares too much DNA with the boys to be a romantic interest?

[pferreira]

That would constitute taking things a bit too far, I think. Some folks want representation and diversity? Fine. Create new characters, like Jennika and whoever else. Don't mess with the established classics. And especially, especially don't try the "Come on, it's just a fictional character, why do you care so much?" angle like it's a an automatic KO in the discussion, 'cause that baby cuts both ways.I have learned over the years nothing is sacred. They will find a way to do it. :(

[Chet]

No idea, but I'm so glad we got a good visual design this time. No stupid boobs and stuff like Venus de Milo. Reptiles don't have milk glands.

[Cloudrunner]

No idea, but I'm so glad we got a good visual design this time. No stupid boobs and stuff like Venus de Milo. Reptiles don't have milk glands.

You're just not looking hard enough.

[Dejablue]

My honest hottake answer is no Jennika won't be in TMNT forever. Every version of tmnt has characters that don't crossover unless they are super popular with the fanbase. Or the head writer of whatever version liked that character so they use them in their version. And sorry I think i'm incredibly late to this conversation. >.>

Like most fans of TMNT know who Irma is but nobody expects to see Irma in every iteration of TMNT.

[Egon1982]

I mean... interspecies romance has existed in pretty much every incarnation of TMNT. And I'm not just talking about Raph and his furry fetish. Even the more kid-oriented 2012 cartoon had Donnie and April.

And what makes Bojack Horseman, Doctor Who's Vastra and Jenny, Star Wars, Armitage III etc. no different in these kinds of relationships?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

And what makes Bojack Horseman, Doctor Who's Vastra and Jenny, Star Wars, Armitage III etc. no different in these kinds of relationships?

It was really nice while you were gone. Do you mind going away again?

[AquaParade]

You won't ever see a female turtle in cartoons/movies.

I would bet heavily against this. We will at least see her in a cartoon before we die. Likely with nostrils.

Edit: Feels like I'm tempting fate with this post. Could be after I die, that'd be fine.

[Galactus]

I doubt she will even be a permanent part of the IDW turtles-verse. It's built into the concept of her character that she can become human again. Even if the creators have zero intention of de-mutating her if her popularity dips she could easily be independent of the male turtles. Even with the turtles bringing her into the family she has more in common with extended family members like April and Casey than long lost 'sister' Venus and can easily be written out of the core cast. I expect we're in for the long haul with Jennika though and wouldn't be surprised if she turned up in other versions of the TMNT.

[Dejablue]

I say "it depends". Characters can come and go if they aren't part of the core cast. Like we usually expect April to always be there. But Bishop can come and go. So characters like Jennika and Old Hob could come and go and be semi recurring depending on who the current person in charge thinks they can utilize the character.

There is a big difference between "This character might return or cameo in a future version." Vs "They are here forever." Really any character who has been invented for TMNT has the possibility of coming back. It's all up to the whims of the creator in charge.

[bgb1018]

As long as Sophie Campbell is taking the lead on writing, Jennika is 100% staying, which is fine with me. Sophie has been writing her own personal TMNT comic with Jennika (under a different name) as the 5th turtle that has always been partner the group. I like the idea of their being a 5th turtle, especially one that could potentially go back to being human down the road. And if not, thats fine too. Having her in the group doesn't take hurt the series at all.

My only hope is that if she is a staple moving forward, I dont want her to be a focus more times than not like she is now. In the current arc of the ongoing it makes sense to showcase her more since she's newly mutated and still coming to terms with it. But in later arcs, I'd really like to see a more equal focus on all 5 of them.

Other than that, I think she's a good addition to the series/turtles. I have faith they'll do right by it.

[CyberCubed]

If IDW TMNT goes on to issue 150, of course she'll still be around. There's no real way to write her out.

However if IDW TMNT goes on to issue 200 or so, then we might see less of her, or her go on a journey of self-discovery where she's "written out" for a long period of time.

[ChosenOne]

If IDW TMNT goes on to issue 150, of course she'll still be around. There's no real way to write her out.

However if IDW TMNT goes on to issue 200 or so, then we might see less of her, or her go on a journey of self-discovery where she's "written out" for a long period of time.

She could be demutated. She could be killed. She could sacrifice herself. So many ways to write her out... I expect if she does leave, it'll be in one of the major milestone issues (125, 150, 175, 200, etc).

[CyberCubed]

Eh, if Jennika was to die they'd just have Karai impaling her be fatal. I knew the moment they saved her and she got mutated into a Turtle she'd be around for the long haul. You don't introduce a female Turtle just to drop it, you try to make it stick for awhile.

[ChosenOne]

Eh, if Jennika was to die they'd just have Karai impaling her be fatal. I knew the moment they saved her and she got mutated into a Turtle she'd be around for the long haul. You don't introduce a female Turtle just to drop it, you try to make it stick for awhile.

Which is what they're doing. But it might not work out in the long run. Her death at that point would have had very little impact compared to her death now, after being mutated and integrated into the clan.

[neatoman]

There is ALWAYS a way to write character out. That's not to say it's always a good idea or could be done elegantly, but if you dared me to, I could pitch ten ways of writing Jennika out of the series in the next few issues if you'd like.