Police investigating ‘hate crime’ after transgender woman turned down for porn role

[Refractive Reflections]

COPS are investigating a "hate crime" after a transgender woman was turned down for a porn role "because she has a penis".

Ria Cooper, 25, who became Britain's youngest trans person when she transitioned 10 years ago, says an anonymous photographer messaged her saying he wanted them to have sex on camera and sell the resulting porno. But when he found out Ria still has male reproductive organs he immediately retracted the offer. In messages exchanged over WhatsApp, the photographer claimed he couldn't work with her because "she has a c***".

'TRANSPHOBIC'

Ria has hit out at the "transphobic behaviour" and says she's being unfairly discriminated against in her modelling career.

The woman from Hull, East Yorks., has reported the comments to Humberside Police, which is investigating the incident as a hate crime. She previously appeared on This Morning, when she discussed how she began transitioning at 15.

Ria, who was assigned male at birth, struggled with how the hormones she was prescribed changed her, and shortly after her 18th birthday decided to live as a man. The qualified beauty therapist has now transitioned to a woman, and has opened a hair and beauty salon to help other transgender people. Ria says the man got in touch with her after she released her new glamour modelling portfolio online.

He apparently told her the industry was like a "family" and vowed to help her make her way to the top of it. Then the photographer told Ria he had just been informed by a friend that she is transgender, before saying "Playboy won't accept that". He then cut all contact with Ria, who says her social media profiles clearly state she is a "ladyboy".

Ria has described the comments as "discriminatory" and "appalling", comparing the abuse to that of a racist. She said: "When I first changed I found it really scary and very confusing. "I had no one to lean on for support it was such a massive change. But, now I'm comfortable and confident in my own skin I wanted to help others."

A spokeswoman for Humberside Police said: "We received a report of a hate incident yesterday, on Wednesday, October 16. The report has been logged and will be investigated."


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10162480/police-transgender-woman-investigate-porn/

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'm sure Ria will find work someplace else in porn, because lots of people will jack off to anything.

That being said, it ain't racist or anything for people to hire others for their characteristics in a porno.

[Andrew NDB]

That's the push right now. "You won't look at me and treat me 100% like a woman, surgeries or not? OK, I'm going to END you now!" Similarly, you also don't have to look very hard to see a ton of stories from trans women saying that dudes are "transphobic" and terrible neanderthal men for openly saying they would never consider dating them ever, and bunches of people jumping on that bandwagon agreeing.

[IMJ]

Millenials are having a hard time in adulthood understanding that the real world won't give them a trophy simply for being part of the game.

So this translates into millenials as adults going and crying to the "teacher" anytime they don't get their way.

At a glance this might sound like hyperbole, but it's not. It's the actual operating model for a significant number of these people.

[Andrew NDB]

Millenials are having a hard time in adulthood understanding that the real world won't give them a trophy simply for being part of the game.

So this translates into millenials as adults going and crying to the "teacher" anytime they don't get their way.

At a glance this might sound like hyperbole, but it's not. It's the actual operating model for a significant number of these people.

Or falling back on and weaponizing language. This seems the go to. You know, inventing words or creating new labels to compartmentalize (and subsequently demonize) people who don't agree with them and place them behind, to then throw rocks at from afar.

[Prowler]

Hate crime? That's a big exaggeration no? A hate crime would have to involve physical violence or threats. Not all discrimination files under "hate crime". Anyway, that's what lawyers and judges are for. If it gets taken to court, the hate crime charges will probably be dropped.

I'm sure Ria will find work someplace else in porn, because lots of people will jack off to anything.

That being said, it ain't racist or anything for people to hire others for their characteristics in a porno.
Pornstars themselves admit that their industry is anything but politically correct when it comes to those things. It's all acting to cater to their viewers, anyway.

[IMJ]

Hate crime? That's a big exaggeration no? A hate crime would have to involve physical violence or threats. Not all discrimination files under "hate crime". Anyway, that's what lawyers and judges are for. If it gets taken to court, the hate crime charges will probably be dropped.


Pornstars themselves admit that their industry is anything but politically correct when it comes to those things. It's all acting to cater to their viewers, anyway.

The problem is that everything is so convoluted nowadays that the news source could've sensationalized the story. People also don't largely understand that the police respond to a call and investigate the situation right there and then (which is mandatory). For them to pursue further investigation after the initial response is not mandatory if the call is deemed nonsense, or without violation.

And so, for all we know the damn reporter is exaggerating the circumstances of "investigation" just to sensationalize the story. Personally, I can't believe that the police would actually investigate this further after the initial call response.

[IndigoErth]

Yeaaah... First off, I'm not sure some guy calling you up and saying "lets do it on camera and then sell it" qualifies as anything to do with your "modelling career." That is, if you want to do legit professional modeling, not just be some porn star, so I'm not sure doing what he wanted, even if he hadn't backed out, is what you want in your resume to begin with.

I can understand being mad if it was money and career help that suddenly vanished. But other people have things fall through all the time too. But if porn is the goal, not actual respectable modeling... I'm certain there is probably a big area of porn for people who have not had the surgery, so really, chill out sister, it's not like there isn't plenty more opportunity out there for people of your configuration to get involved. Cripe, you can start uploading your own stuff and try to get a following.

And if porn isn't the goal... it's for the best that it fell through. He doesn't sound like someone with your best interests in mind and not the person to get help from for a normal modelling career.

[Sumac]

Regardless of this man's sex and "identity", saying "no" on the job is not a hate crime.

That's the push right now. "You won't look at me and treat me 100% like a woman, surgeries or not? OK, I'm going to END you now!" Similarly, you also don't have to look very hard to see a ton of stories from trans women saying that dudes are "transphobic" and terrible neanderthal men for openly saying they would never consider dating them ever, and bunches of people jumping on that bandwagon agreeing.
Worse yet, they often attack women for not "being inclusive enough", i.e. allowing obviously disturbed men into showers, dressing rooms, shelters and so on.

[TommyT]

This is from the same newspaper that published this headline, so, maybe, don't believe everything you read.

https://i.imgur.com/bSi0B1w.jpg

[IndigoErth]

Ah, so a tabloid, no wonder it was "news" to begin with...



(Mark of the devil...? Looks more like a skin irritation/inflamed response in the shape of cross hairs. :tconfuse:)

[Andrew NDB]

A quick Google turns this story up from many sites.

[TommyT]

A quick Google turns this story up from many sites.

Feel free to post any and all fake news.

[IMJ]

A quick Google turns this story up from many sites.

Eh, let's lead with a solid source next time then (not that it was you who started this thread, but...).

[TommyT]

Beware the Florida Man. He's going to get you.

[Refractive Reflections]

This is from the same newspaper that published this headline, so, maybe, don't believe everything you read.

https://i.imgur.com/bSi0B1w.jpg
Eh, let's lead with a solid source next time then (not that it was you who started this thread, but...).

When you have world events and headlines that are not distinguishable as to their source between the news, tabloids and even parody websites (i.e. The Onion), it certainly makes a statement about the trajectory of the culture.

https://www.westernjournal.com/man-accused-hate-crime-refusing-sex-transgender-male-genitalia/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7588769/Transgender-woman-claims-discrimination-snubbed-porn-having-penis.html
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/hmm-transgender-model-files-police-report-after-being-denied-porn-job-due-to-her-pnis/

[IMJ]

When you have world events and headlines that are not distinguishable as to their source between the news, tabloids and even parody websites (i.e. The Onion), it certainly makes a statement about the trajectory of the culture.

Absolutely. Ab. So. Lutely.

On occasion Tim Pool will drift into my YouTube feed as it plays in the background. And at times I really enjoy his mildly vitriolic, but accurate logic as he points out things that should be obvious to everyone on Earth, but isn't.

And then he'll go and do a "show" sourcing from the Daily Mail and I can't help but facepalm. Granted, the Daily Mail only mildly sensationalizes real news, but still.... the Daily Mail. Tabloids or sources for "people who want some entertainment from the newspaper" shouldn't be cited.... ever.

At least the Daily Mail doesn't do "the Bat Boy" stories though. I just picked the Bat Boy because I remember that all over the supermarket racks when I was a kid.

[Rooish]

Millenials are having a hard time in adulthood understanding that the real world won't give them a trophy simply for being part of the game.

So this translates into millenials as adults going and crying to the "teacher" anytime they don't get their way.

At a glance this might sound like hyperbole, but it's not. It's the actual operating model for a significant number of these people.

Nope, this is hyperbole. The worst entitlement and privilege I’ve ever seen is from boomers. People love to hate on the younger generation because they don’t like to acknowledge their own privileges. The most pearl clutching in the world comes from people that can’t handle millennials speaking up for themselves.

[Rooish]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10162480/police-transgender-woman-investigate-porn/

I’m not sure why this stuff counts as news, but okay. This is why there are courts to determine if something is actually discrimination or not. If you are being discriminatory then it’s a problem. If a crazy person is trying to trap you then they will get the slap on the wrist. We had a case of a trans woman who kept going to waxing salons and trying to bully marginalized, racialized women into waxing her balls. She filed some human rights complaint but was found to be doing this out of racism and to fulfil a fetish or something and had to pay the salons money. Then all the newspapers were like this is why we have to worry about allowing gender identity to be a category in human rights cases. Actually no—you don’t have to worry. If the person has a genuine case and you were being transphobic, you do have to worry. If they are just exploiting legal loopholes and are actually a big creep, they will pay for it. So stop hand wringing.

[Sumac]

Nope, this is hyperbole. The worst entitlement and privilege I’ve ever seen is from boomers. People love to hate on the younger generation because they don’t like to acknowledge their own privileges. The most pearl clutching in the world comes from people that can’t handle millennials speaking up for themselves.
I don't see it, honestly. For all this millennial whining about "boomers", so far I see mostly millennials whining about everything under the sun.
But considering that a lot of millennial whining has become indistinguishable from conservative whining, I can understand how they can be confused for one another.

We had a case of a trans woman who kept going to waxing salons and trying to bully marginalized, racialized women into waxing her balls. She filed some human rights complaint but was found to be doing this out of racism and to fulfil a fetish or something and had to pay the salons money.
This man is complete basket case and a borderline pedo. The problem is that a lot of people in transcult consider him to be "poor oppressed victim" and defend him.
If they outright stated that this guy is completely insane and doesn't represent anything about trans community, that would have been one thing, but it seems transcult is not interested in it.

If they are just exploiting legal loopholes and are actually a big creep, they will pay for it. So stop hand wringing.
Unlikely if they are supported by massive organization and internet mob. Otherwise guy from the sentence above, Yaniv, would have been in jail or in asylum long time ago.

The fact that inaction of transcult and their rampant clinging to their horrid ideology does nothing, at the expense of logic and safety of women and kids, but empowers crazies to be even more crazy. And there is no accountability, since in eyes of transcult any accountability is transphobic.

[Rooish]

I don't see it, honestly. For all this millennial whining about "boomers", so far I see mostly millennials whining about everything under the sun.
But considering that a lot of millennial whining has become indistinguishable from conservative whining, I can understand how they can be confused for one another.

Cool, no idea what you are talking about. Conservatives whine about trans people taking over the world which is not what millienials whine about. They tend to whine about financial insecurity caused by neoliberalism and environmental destruction.

This man is complete basket case and a borderline pedo. The problem is that a lot of people in transcult consider him to be "poor oppressed victim" and defend him.
If they outright stated that this guy is completely insane and doesn't represent anything about trans community, that would have been one thing, but it seems transcult is not interested in it.

Do you know any trans people? This person is an embarrassment to them that has set back their attempts at rights and protection dramatically. Transcult is also not a thing. Trans people have differing opinions but presumably most want rights and protections, if that sounds cult like to you.


Unlikely if they are supported by massive organization and internet mob. Otherwise guy from the sentence above, Yaniv, would have been in jail or in asylum long time ago.

The fact that inaction of transcult and their rampant clinging to their horrid ideology does nothing, at the expense of logic and safety of women and kids, but empowers crazies to be even more crazy. And there is no accountability, since in eyes of transcult any accountability is transphobic.

Actually, as I mentioned and you seemed to ignore, this crazy person tried to swing power around but was found to be exploiting the discourse for insincere reasons. They had to pay fines and are pretty much disgraced. Therefore, hand wringing is unnecessary.

[Sumac]

Cool, no idea what you are talking about. Conservatives whine about trans people taking over the world which is not what millienials whine about. They tend to whine about financial insecurity caused by neoliberalism and environmental destruction.
While using devices made by Chinese slave labor with no problems, worshiping and defending cheap pandering from multi-billion corporations like Disney.
Also, financial insecurity is not caused by environmental destruction. It's caused by dumb usage of resources.

As for conservatives whining about transcult, they are justified considering that transcult causes a lot of collateral damage, as well, as setting back rights of LGBs and women.

Do you know any trans people? This person is an embarrassment to them that has set back their attempts at rights and protection dramatically. Transcult is also not a thing. Trans people have differing opinions but presumably most want rights and protections, if that sounds cult like to you.
What sounds like a cult to me is their desire to attack others and pretend that they are something they are not, regardless of logic and reality.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I don't see it, honestly. For all this millennial whining about "boomers", so far I see mostly millennials whining about everything under the sun.
But considering that a lot of millennial whining has become indistinguishable from conservative whining, I can understand how they can be confused for one another.

This man is complete basket case and a borderline pedo. The problem is that a lot of people in transcult consider him to be "poor oppressed victim" and defend him.
If they outright stated that this guy is completely insane and doesn't represent anything about trans community, that would have been one thing, but it seems transcult is not interested in it.

Unlikely if they are supported by massive organization and internet mob. Otherwise guy from the sentence above, Yaniv, would have been in jail or in asylum long time ago.

The fact that inaction of transcult and their rampant clinging to their horrid ideology does nothing, at the expense of logic and safety of women and kids, but empowers crazies to be even more crazy. And there is no accountability, since in eyes of transcult any accountability is transphobic.


Where were you even getting that she's borderline pedo? Nowhere did Rooish mention anything of the sort, nor was there any mention of children regarding the case. Stop conflating issues. It makes your entire point invalid.


Cool, no idea what you are talking about. Conservatives whine about trans people taking over the world which is not what millienials whine about. They tend to whine about financial insecurity caused by neoliberalism and environmental destruction.

Do you know any trans people? This person is an embarrassment to them that has set back their attempts at rights and protection dramatically. Transcult is also not a thing. Trans people have differing opinions but presumably most want rights and protections, if that sounds cult like to you.

Actually, as I mentioned and you seemed to ignore, this crazy person tried to swing power around but was found to be exploiting the discourse for insincere reasons. They had to pay fines and are pretty much disgraced. Therefore, hand wringing is unnecessary.


Ignore the troll. I seriously doubt he's ever even met a trans person, much less knows any. And his posts are consistently bigoted and phobic against anyone who happens to be one. He also likes to whine about how "snowflakes" are always whining about real issues in the world, while dismissing their problems as delusions and entitlement. So, consider the source here, and just treat it accordingly.

[Rooish]

Where were you even getting that she's borderline pedo? Nowhere did Rooish mention anything of the sort, nor was there any mention of children regarding the case. Stop conflating issues. It makes your entire point invalid.





Ignore the troll. I seriously doubt he's ever even met a trans person, much less knows any. And his posts are consistently bigoted and phobic against anyone who happens to be one. He also likes to whine about how "snowflakes" are always whining about real issues in the world, while dismissing their problems as delusions and entitlement. So, consider the source here, and just treat it accordingly.

Fair enough, it was just such madness I had to reply. It is rough visiting the Current Events section! My point was that, when someone misues the rights/privileges given to them, they got caught.

P.s. also I meant it as two separate issues to worry about--financial insecurity and environmental degradation.

[Sumac]

Where were you even getting that she's borderline pedo? Nowhere did Rooish mention anything of the sort, nor was there any mention of children regarding the case. Stop conflating issues. It makes your entire point invalid.
He had directly mentioned Yaniv, a man who is known for his insane behavior, including unhealthy (to say the least) behavior towards children. It is directly relevant to the person mentioned.
But of course he must be misunderstood precious "girl" and bad things he did is just rumors or lie of some *phobes. :roll:

Ignore the troll. I seriously doubt he's ever even met a trans person, much less knows any. And his posts are consistently bigoted and phobic against anyone who happens to be one. He also likes to whine about how "snowflakes" are always whining about real issues in the world, while dismissing their problems as delusions and entitlement. So, consider the source here, and just treat it accordingly.
Whenever someone disagrees with you and calls out your ********, they are troll. Of course.

On the other hand what I can expect from "magical nature with rainbows and unicorns exists beyond the veil" type of person. :lol:

Does it hurt much when someone doesn't buy your lies?

[Refractive Reflections]

Nope, this is hyperbole. The worst entitlement and privilege I’ve ever seen is from boomers. People love to hate on the younger generation because they don’t like to acknowledge their own privileges. The most pearl clutching in the world comes from people that can’t handle millennials speaking up for themselves.

Actually, boomers have experienced more hardship than millennials, and their criticism of millennials is justified considering that boomers experienced the tumultuous 60s and 70s due to the Civil Rights era, and Vietnam (the last war when men were drafted into war). The reason why older generations criticize millennials is because their entitlement is due to never having experience great wars or extreme financial hardship of generations past, and thus is reflected in millennials' more eccentric and superficial priorities.

It's laughable to say people can't handle millennials "speaking up for themselves" when boomers have actually went out onto the streets and faced far worse violence and retaliation (i.e. 1970 Kent State), and sacrifices just to have basic, fundamental rights of being able to protest, and have equal (race and gender), environmental, and workplace rights. Most millennials now think that virtue signaling on social media equates to the same thing. Considering how self-absorbed millennials are, it's rare to find those willing to make the financial, family, and career sacrifices for their causes like their parents used to do.

Let's not forget also that the millennials' grandparents (The Greatest Generation) certainly had more grounded priorities than millennials due to experiencing The Great Depression, and World War II.

[Leo656]

It's a harsh truth, but a Truth nonetheless, Double-R.

I can't even pretend that I've got it half as bad as my grandparents or great-grandparents. My great-grandparents on one side lived in Poland in the f*cking 1940s and came over here for reasons that I'm sure would be obvious to anyone with a history book. I can't even imagine what "fun" that was. The Irish side, same sh*t from a different direction.

Like yeah, I got it rough. Lots of people do. But rougher than possibly being thrown in a concentration camp (a REAL one, not a border facility for those temporarily-detained)? Rougher than being drafted right out of high school to go fight and die in some war you had nothing to do with, just because your number came up? Rougher than it being TOTALLY LEGAL for someone to lynch you in broad daylight because your skin was the wrong color for the neighborhood? I mean come ON.

Every generation has its ups and downs, but the sh*t I see going on right now is laughable. These are the very definition of First World Problems. "The menial monkey's job I have doesn't pay as much as the jobs people get after eight years of college. But I wanna buy toys and stuff! It's so unfair! Why do I have to live in a sh*tty apartment when the people who work a lot longer and harder than I do get to live in nice places? I want the right to go outside looking like I haven't bathed in months, I want the right to not shave my visible body hair, I want the right to use whatever bathroom I want, I want the right to make people uncomfortable as much as possible, I want the right to physically assault people who disagree with me because I'm on 'The Right Side of History', I want the right to get paid a 'living wage' even though I 'choose not to work', or, 'CAN'T go to work' because I have 'anxiety', I want everyone else to pay for my diabetic meds or lung transplant because I refuse to stop smoking or lose weight, I want I want I WANT! And since I WANT, that means I DESERVE, but god forbid I should have to handle any of this my own self."

I'm sorry, but as I've said, I've got some Old-World Horse Piss in my veins, and I was raised to believe that if you ain't "making it", you're not trying hard enough, and that nobody but you owes you a living. Maybe that's cold, but hey, that's reality, and it don't change just because some people wish it weren't so.

So while this rant has nothing to do with the thread topic, yeah, no, the current generation has comparatively ZERO problems of merit compared to anyone over 40. People nowadays don't know what it's like to grow up in a town where oil or coal was the one and only job, then watch everybody slowly starve to death or die from addiction once all the resources are gone and the town withers and dies off. Or a fishing town, same thing. Our parents, grandparents, and before had far fewer options than anyone has nowadays. Today people get paid to write sh*tty web articles and never leave their house, or can sell arts and crafts on Etsy... sh*t, they can go outside and say hello to people without worrying about contracting Polio or Measles!

We take all this sh*t for granted, and it's because the younger generation lacks perspective. One could argue that their struggles are merely "different", but if you really break it down... no, yeah. They are very, very inconsequential "problems" by comparison, and a lot of them are self-inflicted and carry fairly simple solutions. It all really boils down to entitlement. *I* was taught, "Nobody owes you sh*t. You deserve nothing more than what you earn." Today, it's "I want, therefore I Deserve." And that's really the root of it all.

Again, nothing to do with the thread topic, but I agree with RR that it's absolutely laughable that anyone under-40 could ever say with a straight face that their problems compare in any way with those who came before. No chance.

[TommyT]

Einstein had a cool theory, it was called relativity.

Man. To even begin to suggest that the world is easier to navigate today, then generations past. You’d have to have actually lived both. Our world of stripped resources and spiderwebs of crazy HR insanity, with upside down politics, outrage and hate is not the doing of just the people who showed up last.

Kind of laughable to say otherwise. Romancing the past is just that, especially when its not your past.

[Leo656]

We presently live in a world where a person with no education or marketable skills can make a substantial living by filming themselves performing sex acts with a ventriloquist dummy and streaming them on the internet. Some of those people make as much as college graduates.

Please, keep telling me how things today are just oh-so-difficult compared to the times when children had to drop out of schools to work in factories or else their siblings would starve to death. Which wasn't all that long ago, by the way.

The worst thing anyone deals with nowadays is someone calling them by the wrong pronoun, and they legitimately think that's justification for physical violence in itself. "They called me a bad thing!" That's the kind of stuff kids nowadays spend most of their time bitching about. That, and "I can't work" because "I'm afraid of people."

Scales ain't balanced, chief. The world is absolutely easier to navigate today than it was even 30 years ago, and anyone who says otherwise is either obtuse or just plain ignorant. Which most people under-30 provably are.

People writing in emojis on their job applications and wondering why they don't get hired for good jobs. Cry me a f*cking river. These kids create their own problems. That's what people do when there's no actual "injustice" to fight: tilt at windmills.

[TommyT]

https://i.imgflip.com/1xe5r4.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/1xe5r4)

GenY bitching about Millennials is fascinating.

[Sumac]

I like how millennials blame Boomers for everything. Despite it were Boomers who achieved pretty much all the rights which millennials take for granted today. Yet they have the gall to call them some sort of monsters.

It is such fascinating lack of perspective.

[Leo656]

I demand to know the age of everyone in this room before I continue with this conversation.

Also, I'mma need to know who's f*ckin' Portuguese. Don't ask why, they know what the f*ck they did.