Ant Man 3

[ZariusTwo]

Peyton Reed returning to direct. It forms part of Phase 5.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ant-man-3-peyton-reed-returning-direct-1251732

[Andrew NDB]

That's good news. I'm surprised.

[Autbot_Benz]

So happy I love the Ant-Man movies.

[Leofan26]

Everyone thought this would never happen, sure showed them.

[AquaParade]

I was hoping someone else would get a shot at directing. I love the character but was dying to get out of the theater by the end of "AM&TW".

[Autbot_Benz]

https://deadline.com/2020/09/jonathan-majors-ant-man-3-marvel-universe-1203028234/

Jonathan Majors joins the cast The studio had no comment, but sources close to the project say he is likely to play the super-villain Kang the Conqueror.

[neatoman]

https://deadline.com/2020/09/jonathan-majors-ant-man-3-marvel-universe-1203028234/

Jonathan Majors joins the cast The studio had no comment, but sources close to the project say he is likely to play the super-villain Kang the Conqueror.

So they cast a black guy to play a character named "Kang"?

... Is this intentional?

[IMJ]

The An-Man movies are inconsequential but a lot of fun. Kang is a great villain and I hope it's true. I suppose this is my excuse to slab a copy of Avengers #8 I bought about 13 years ago now.....

[ZariusTwo]

The An-Man movies are inconsequential

So are most of them

[AquaParade]

You could tell me Batman is in this movie and I'd wait for home video. I can't remember the last time I was as bored in a theater, as I was for the Ant-Man sequel (Maybe SS but that was nearly in the "so bad it's good" category). I was looking forward to it too, but I think the director just doesn't do it for me.

Hoping to be pleasantly surprised when I eventually get around to it.

[Galactus]

I certainly hope Kang isn't the main villain. I like the Ant-Man movies just fine but Kang is too good a villain to waste on this. Heck he is the kind of villain that could be the next Thanos-level big bad in the MCU.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This seems really, really weird.

REALLY weird.

This seems as weird as sending the Suicide Squad to fight Darkseid, or Robin to fight Ares all by himself.

I'm going to go with "nah fam, it ain't true" until otherwise convinced.

[Galactus]

If it's true I'm hoping that it's just a cameo a small role to set him up for a new Avengers movie.

[AquaParade]

Deadline is a reliable source. It's likely true.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Deadline is a reliable source. It's likely true.

I'm not very knowledgeable about Kang the Conqueror, but I'm assuming there's a Quantum Realm connection? Given Kang's whole thing is time travel?

[Autbot_Benz]

bumped too 7/28/23

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-doctor-strange-2-thor-4-release-date-delay/

[ProphetofGanja]

I certainly hope Kang isn't the main villain. I like the Ant-Man movies just fine but Kang is too good a villain to waste on this. Heck he is the kind of villain that could be the next Thanos-level big bad in the MCU.

It's looking like he will be a major villain across multiple films

[Mayhem]

Yeah sounds like he's going to be introduced and carry on across a number of other films.

[Andrew NDB]

I kind of suspect it will be like Thanos at the end of Avengers combined with Thanos in GotG 1 here. Maybe. With the idea that this is a player that will pop up again in like Fantastic Four or onward. It's hard to imagine an Ant-Man 3 where he is like the central villain that is defeated definitively by the end.

[sdp]

The suicide squad fought starro!
But yeah in the MCU Ant-Man isn't even the creator of Ultron and gets treated as a discount avenger

[Autbot_Benz]

Bill Murray joins the cast in secret role

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ant-man-wasp-3-quantumania-casts-bill-murray-secret-role/

[Leo656]

Jesus, I hadn't even heard he was sick.

But clearly he just got some bad medical news and is trying to secure one last quick cash-grab so his kids will be taken care of. Given his track record, that's the only thing that makes any sense why he'd do something like This.

[ProphetofGanja]

Jesus, I hadn't even heard he was sick.

But clearly he just got some bad medical news and is trying to secure one last quick cash-grab so his kids will be taken care of. Given his track record, that's the only thing that makes any sense why he'd do something like This.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/ovvkh0AoZVHq0/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e477y88z5bwnt306snx3xltlryk6qxj wih9c5vzjq1g&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Andrew NDB]

But clearly he just got some bad medical news and is trying to secure one last quick cash-grab so his kids will be taken care of.

Yeah, Bill and his family are definitely hurting for money.

[oldmanwinters]

Yeah, Bill and his family are definitely hurting for money.

Man, did you see his "house" in Zombieland? I wonder if that was filmed on actual location or if somebody else loaned out a mansion.

[Andrew NDB]

Man, did you see his "house" in Zombieland? I wonder if that was filmed on actual location or if somebody else loaned out a mansion.

Looks like it was Lee Najjar's mansion. As cool as it would be, I doubt Bill would open his home up like that to a big production.

[Leo656]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/ovvkh0AoZVHq0/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e477y88z5bwnt306snx3xltlryk6qxj wih9c5vzjq1g&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Murray thought he'd signed up for a biopic of former President JAMES Garfield and wasn't smartened up until it was too late to get out of it. :trazz:

[oldmanwinters]

Murray thought he'd signed up for a biopic of former President JAMES Garfield and wasn't smartened up until it was too late to get out of it. :trazz:

Murray said it was his own mistaken reading of "Joel Cohen" vs. "Joel Coen."
https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-murray-voiced-garfield-because-he-thought-director-was-joel-coen-2014-1

If nothing else, I appreciate the coincidence that Lorenzo Music (the definitive Garfield voice) voiced an animated adaptation of Peter Venkman, while Murray ended up voicing Garfield in a theatrical movie.

[sdp]

ah yes? and what was his excuse for the second one?

[Leo656]

He wanted a bigger pool. :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

But Garfield... I mean... are there really a lot of A list actors that are turning down voice acting parts because they're too infantile? They're short work, the money is good, and all they have to do is sit in a chair with their coffee and bang it all out in an afternoon while getting about half the money they'd get for a two month real movie shoot. It's not like he was doing mocap for Garfield or anything.

[ProphetofGanja]

Murray said it was his own mistaken reading of "Joel Cohen" vs. "Joel Coen."
https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-murray-voiced-garfield-because-he-thought-director-was-joel-coen-2014-1

If nothing else, I appreciate the coincidence that Lorenzo Music (the definitive Garfield voice) voiced an animated adaptation of Peter Venkman, while Murray ended up voicing Garfield in a theatrical movie.

Funny old thing, life
https://c.tenor.com/MkbsdhexKLEAAAAM/spongebob-circle-back.gif

But Garfield... I mean... are there really a lot of A list actors that are turning down voice acting parts because they're too infantile? They're short work, the money is good, and all they have to do is sit in a chair with their coffee and bang it all out in an afternoon while getting about half the money they'd get for a two month real movie shoot. It's not like he was doing mocap for Garfield or anything.

.....like Alec Baldwin in Boss Baby

https://c.tenor.com/WyfJHn6_43kAAAAC/psaki-circle-back.gif



I dunno Bill Murray just seems eccentric enough to do whatever he feels like doing without paying it much heed. I deff don't think he'd sign-on for a multi-film contract in superhero flicks but seeing him do a part in Quantumania should be fun

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Pretty sure Owen Wilson suffered worse when he voiced Marmaduke.:o

[ProphetofGanja]

Forgot that even existed lmao

[Autbot_Benz]

Rumor going around that MODOK will be in Ant Man 3 and he will be played by Jim Carrey
. Also MODOK might be in She Hulk

According to a recent post from the moderator team on the Marvel Studios Spoilers subreddit, legendary comedy actor Jim Carrey has been cast as Marvel villain MODOK for multiple upcoming MCU projects.

The leaker revealed Carrey will appear in multiple Disney+ series, potentially as early as She-Hulk . Additionally, a source stated that MODOK will appear in 2023's Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania , although that particular information remains unverified.

https://thedirect.com/article/mcu-jim-carrey-captain-america-modok-villain-rumors-shows

[Autbot_Benz]

bumped too 7/28/23

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-doctor-strange-2-thor-4-release-date-delay/

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA previously dated on 7/28/23 moves to 2/17/23

https://deadline.com/2022/04/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-the-marvels-swap-release-dates-1235013181/

[Coola Yagami]

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA previously dated on 7/28/23 moves to 2/17/23

https://deadline.com/2022/04/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-the-marvels-swap-release-dates-1235013181/

So it'll be out sooner rather than later? Did they finally drop the complete nothing-burger with Wasp being against the CoVid vaccine?

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/ZFS69rd.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

Is that Ghost lady going to be in this?

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/jLHDbVk/309164025-1423798338105321-6150591316894090165-n.jpg

So they're not making Kang the Conqueror's face blue. Like, at all.

[ProphetofGanja]

https://i.ibb.co/jLHDbVk/309164025-1423798338105321-6150591316894090165-n.jpg

So they're not making Kang the Conqueror's face blue. Like, at all.

Maybe it'll go blue when he activates the visor or sum

Is that Ghost lady going to be in this?

I'm guessing... no

[Andrew NDB]

I'm guessing... no

I was surprised to see her in the lineup of the Thunderbolts. I thought for sure she was being quietly jettisoned if she wasn't going to turn up in this.

[AquaParade]

https://i.ibb.co/jLHDbVk/309164025-1423798338105321-6150591316894090165-n.jpg

So they're not making Kang the Conqueror's face blue. Like, at all.

Are you just jumping to conclusions based on these images or did you hear/read something?

[Andrew NDB]

Are you just jumping to conclusions based on these images or Ave you heard/read something?

Admittedly yes, I am purely jumping to conclusions based on these "leaked" images. Though I've wondered what they'd do in this regard since the moment that dude was cast and revealed and I'd suspected they'd go this route. Marvel/Disney fearing the FAKE journalistic articles that would pop up about, "They're covering up/obscuring a proud black man in blue makeup! Why?!" and so on. I mean, I guess the Silver Surfer is safe because it's locked into the name, at least?

This is where we're at.

[IMJ]

Maybe it'll go blue when he activates the visor or sum



I'm guessing... no

That's what I expect. In the comics it's a blue mask, but in the movies it will possibly be a blue energy screen or something.....

[ProphetofGanja]

That's what I expect. In the comics it's a blue mask, but in the movies it will possibly be a blue energy screen or something.....

I feel like that's 100% what Feige and Marvel will do, they're capable enough writers to throw the comics fans a pinpoint-accurate visual easter egg like that but they know that some of these OG costume designs are just Really Really Bad (see: original Vision, original Hawkeye, original Wolverine (yeah I said it) the list goes on). For Kang it could even be part of a heads-up display inside his helmet, it would make sense

[Galactus]

Admittedly yes, I am purely jumping to conclusions based on these "leaked" images. Though I've wondered what they'd do in this regard since the moment that dude was cast and revealed and I'd suspected they'd go this route. Marvel/Disney fearing the FAKE journalistic articles that would pop up about, "They're covering up/obscuring a proud black man in blue makeup! Why?!" and so on. I mean, I guess the Silver Surfer is safe because it's locked into the name, at least?

This is where we're at.

The comic Kang doesn't have blue skin. It's a skin tight mask that's attached to his helmet. It's not like the character is known for never taking it off either, he's gone helmet-less many times in the comics. I can easily see them doing a retractable blue face mask or visor as people suggest, he has it in the poster so that's a pretty good sign it will be included.

[Andrew NDB]

The comic Kang doesn't have blue skin. It's a skin tight mask that's attached to his helmet. It's not like the character is known for never taking it off either, he's gone helmet-less many times in the comics. I can easily see them doing a retractable blue face mask or visor as people suggest, he has it in the poster so that's a pretty good sign it will be included.

Oh, OK. I've only ever seen images him with the blue-face, ever.

[Autbot_Benz]

ZlNFpri-Y40

[AquaParade]

All I see are a bunch of people standing in front of green-screens. I like the character, but no way am I sitting through this, unless it completely subverts what I am expecting.

[Andrew NDB]

OK. I'm aboard.

[ProphetofGanja]

OK. I'm aboard.

Same; the Ant-Man films have been pretty consistently good, IMO. Hope this one continues the trend.

[IMJ]

It hardly looks groundbreaking or amazing or anything else that the typical mouth-breather goes on about it looking "like the best Marvel movie YET!".

It looks like a decent popcorn flick.

[Autbot_Benz]

William Jackson Harper has entered the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Sources tell Variety that the actor will appear in “Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania,” though his role remains a closely guarded secret. Marvel declined to comment on his casting.





https://variety.com/2022/film/news/william-jackson-harper-cast-in-ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-1235415596/

[Autbot_Benz]

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[Andrew NDB]

I wonder if this is going to have a satisfying ending, given we know Kang goes on to feature in the Avengers movies afterward. Are we just going to get a "notable but minor skirmish" with the guy?

[Autbot_Benz]

5WfTEZJnv_8

Also Looks like the who is Modok in the movie rumor is true

Modok is Darren Cross aka Yellowjacket from Ant-Man1

https://i.imgur.com/1qH4MvZ.jpg

https://thedirect.com/article/ant-man-3-corey-stoll-modok-returned-explained

[Dpooly84]

I wonder if this is going to have a satisfying ending, given we know Kang goes on to feature in the Avengers movies afterward. Are we just going to get a "notable but minor skirmish" with the guy?

Different variants of Kang are going to be the villain in this next wave of Marvel movies. I really enjoy Johnathon Majors' work, he killed it in Loki and I look forward to seeing how they differentiate his different variants.

[ProphetofGanja]

5WfTEZJnv_8

Also Looks like the who is Modok in the movie rumor is true

Modok is Darren Cross aka Yellowjacket from Ant-Man1

https://i.imgur.com/1qH4MvZ.jpg

https://thedirect.com/article/ant-man-3-corey-stoll-modok-returned-explained

Oh, that's gonna be fun when the helmet comes off :lol:

Just over a month out from this, nice. I have been avoiding spoilers as of late but I read some early last year. Gonna try to go in without any expectations

[ZariusTwo]

Reviews are coming in.

Consensus is it does a good job setting up stakes and characters for the phase ahead, but really leaves little breathing room for a standalone Ant Man movie.

Oof. 63% on RT

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ant_man_and_the_wasp_quantumania

[AquaParade]

I predict heavy usage of the word "fun" in many of the positive reviews.

[Sumac]

So, kinda like Iron Man 2?

[AquaParade]

They got to stop pumping these out like Big Macs. I think they’re aware of that now but it’s going to take some time to switch gears.

Feige just said they are going to be doing less Disney+ projects. There’s definitely room for the MCU to make a comeback, in my mind. They had to get checked at some point. Probably better sooner than later.

[Galactus]

Commercially they don't really need a comeback. It maybe unfair to compare the current movies to the first or even second phases as they hadn't yet become the dominant pop culture juggernaut yet but they have a better commercial track record than those phases. Also critically too - we kinda forget that they only started getting glowing reviews after Civil War.

I do think there is certain MCU fatigue but what studio wouldn't have their CEOs sacrifice their first borns to a snake god to have a successful era like this let alone a 'slump'

[neatoman]

MODOK looked like ****.

[IMJ]

MODOK looked like ****.

Did you see it already?

[AquaParade]

Commercially they don't really need a comeback. It maybe unfair to compare the current movies to the first or even second phases as they hadn't yet become the dominant pop culture juggernaut yet but they have a better commercial track record than those phases. Also critically too - we kinda forget that they only started getting glowing reviews after Civil War.

I do think there is certain MCU fatigue but what studio wouldn't have their CEOs sacrifice their first borns to a snake god to have a successful era like this let alone a 'slump'

Yeah, I guess they are still finding success but I’m pretty sure they are a downward trajectory over phase four, though I could be wrong.

Either way, they need a quality comeback imo.

[neatoman]

Did you see it already?

I already answered you in the private messages, but yes. In case anyone else has any questions, just ask me. Though as I already explained to you in the PM, I'm not sure how helpful I can be because there are a lot of things happening in this movie and I'm not sure I can remember every detail.

[ProphetofGanja]

I already answered you in the private messages, but yes. In case anyone else has any questions, just ask me. Though as I already explained to you in the PM, I'm not sure how helpful I can be because there are a lot of things happening in this movie and I'm not sure I can remember every detail.

Oof, doesn't sound like much fun lol :lol:

Y'all wish me luck, I'm seeing it after work tomorrow. I'm a huge MCU apologist but honestly, there have been a lot of lackluster offerings lately. I don't share the opinion that every movie in a phase needs to serve a larger narrative but even aside from that Phase 4 has been pretty weak.

[ZariusTwo]

I'll wait until early next week. February break is almost over and the family are too busy this Friday.

[AquaParade]

I won’t see this, probably ever. I may check it out on home video if the timing is ever right. It’s a shame because I really like Paul Rudd and his version of Ant-Man, but I am way too burnt out on green screen gobbledygook based on an unfinished script. This stuff has to stop and change directions.

[IMJ]

I already answered you in the private messages, but yes. In case anyone else has any questions, just ask me. Though as I already explained to you in the PM, I'm not sure how helpful I can be because there are a lot of things happening in this movie and I'm not sure I can remember every detail.

No, no man your message was awesome. I appreciate it. 8)

[neatoman]

No, no man your message was awesome. I appreciate it. 8)

Thank you.

[Coola Yagami]

Apparently the movie is kinda sucky or pretty forgettable, according to actual movie goers, not paid critics. Also comparisons to Shark girl and Lavaboy and Spy Kids in terms of quality.

MODOK is literally some guy's real face photoshopped onto his body. Like he's one of the few characters that should just been a full on comic accurate CGI creature. Like literally just take the comic design and make it 3D.

[Sumac]

Also comparisons to Shark girl and Lavaboy and Spy Kids in terms of quality.
How mighty had fallen, if its true.

[IMJ]

Apparently the movie is kinda sucky or pretty forgettable, according to actual movie goers, not paid critics. Also comparisons to Shark girl and Lavaboy and Spy Kids in terms of quality.

That's how the first Black Panther flick was, but everyone was afraid to talk about it at the time. Gumby-people FX with some of the worst background matting I've seen outside of early 90's T.V. The mine-fight scene looked like an episode of Lexx where they were all sort of superimposed onto planets and whatnot.

[ProphetofGanja]

Well I saw this and I gotta say I liked it more than almost anything from Phase 4 :lol: I thought it was a good Intro to Kang, it checked pretty much all the boxes for me.

Deff would rewatch this before I rewatched Wakanda Forever

[neatoman]

So what was the point of Krylar in this movie? To give Bill Murray a cameo? To have a joke about a grown woman hearing her parents talk about who they used to ****? In either case, it was just weird, and that says a lot given that this is a movie peppered with weird ****.

[ProphetofGanja]

What more did you want him to be? I thought his scene was pretty funny, and he didn't wear out his welcome like some MCU cameos do.

I thought it was good that they were finally talking about Janet's time in the quantum realm; it was close to like half her life she spent down there

[neatoman]

What more did you want him to be? I thought his scene was pretty funny, and he didn't wear out his welcome like some MCU cameos do.

I thought it was good that they were finally talking about Janet's time in the quantum realm; it was close to like half her life she spent down there

They explicitly mention that he used to be some kind of freedom fighter who has now sided with Kang. You'd think that would have some relevance to the plot but unless I missed something, either because too much is happening in this movie or because I watched it drunk, I don't think he's in the climax or really does anything anything else after they escape the bar. The weird hole obsessed ooze creature is more plot relevant than him.

[Andrew NDB]

Saw it finally. I didn't care for it. I rarely felt anything for anyone at any time. It all just felt like "noise." Like they tried to give Ant-Man his own "Ragnarok" while playing it somewhat more straight on "this is a weird situation I'm in" and not "wa-hoo! Weirdness everywhere! Awesome! With rock songs!" And I'm not saying they should have veered into that direction. They just needed a better script.

Michael Douglas did get to be a boss toward the end. This has his coolest moments in the MCU, but it takes a while to get there. And I don't know anything about MODOK beyond knowing and seeing that a lot of people were looking forward to seeing him in the MCU and speculating on how that would go. At one point I remember even reading something about Jim Carrey, but it was probably bullsh**. But this MODOK? I appreciate bringing back Darren to give some semblance of a trilogy full circle... but this is how they want to do him?

Hope Van Dyne seems sidelined and made kind of nothing. Like you could take a day and easily write her completely out of the movie if you wanted to and it would be fine. There isn't an emotional arc in there for her at all beyond just there to help. And I was starting to count the number of times the camera would end up on the daughter with the same exact copy paste mouth open stare.

Also, kinda shocking they didn't even bother to include absolutely anything with the Mexican supporting cast guy with the fast talking storytelling. That has been a huge hit with fans.

[AquaParade]

All I see are a bunch of people standing in front of green-screens. I like the character, but no way am I sitting through this, unless it completely subverts what I am expecting.

I’m standing my by trailer impressions.

[Andrew NDB]

Some misleading stuff in the trailers. What I got pushed from them was Kang tempting and seducing Scott with the idea of getting those 5 years back with his daughter, or possibly more (never went to prison). That's not in the movie.

[Monty Mole]

Cocaine Bear was better

[AquaParade]

Commercially they don't really need a comeback. It maybe unfair to compare the current movies to the first or even second phases as they hadn't yet become the dominant pop culture juggernaut yet but they have a better commercial track record than those phases. Also critically too - we kinda forget that they only started getting glowing reviews after Civil War.

I do think there is certain MCU fatigue but what studio wouldn't have their CEOs sacrifice their first borns to a snake god to have a successful era like this let alone a 'slump'

Alright, I’m comfortable now cementing that I feel like they do in fact need a commercial comeback.

Their trajectory is horrible. Someone should make a graph.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

The movie was pretty forgettable. This was something more suitable as a family-friendly feature on Disney+. Scott's daughter was annoying and just got in the way a lot. Kang was a very uninteresting antagonist. I don't see how this guy will work as the main villain for an Avengers movie. He felt like Kylo Ren.

[IMJ]

I'm seeing a lot of memes and commentary that are starting to compare Marvel flicks with the C-Grade Spy Kids movies with horrible matting effects. Which is funny because those terrible effects go as far back as Black Panther I ....

[Andrew NDB]

There's a lot of stuff on the web about Ant-Man 3 is a failure, or it is doing much worse than the other Ant-Man movies. It's actually not. It's earned more money than either Ant-Man 1 or Ant-Man 2 every single weekend it's been out.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Ant-Man#tab=summary

When it's all said and done it's going to make exactly the amount of money domestically AND internationally as Ant-Man 2. Just about. The problem, of course, is that Ant-Man 3 cost 70 more million than either of the first two movies.

[oldmanwinters]

When it's all said and done it's going to make exactly the amount of money domestically AND internationally as Ant-Man 2. Just about. The problem, of course, is that Ant-Man 3 cost 70 more million than either of the first two movies.

I guess you could say that profits are... shrinking.

[Autbot_Benz]

Welp

Actor Jonathan Majors — who plays the Kang in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and recently starred in Creed 3 — was arrested in New York City Saturday morning under charges of strangulation, assault, and harassment.

A spokesperson from the New York Police Department's Deputy Commissioner of Public Information confirmed Majors' arrest to IGN and shared the following statement:

“On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at approximately 1114 hours, police responded to 911 call inside of an apartment located in the vicinity of West 22nd Street and 8th Avenue, within the confines of the 10 Precinct. A preliminary investigation determined that a 33-year-old male was involved in a domestic dispute with a 30 year-old female. The victim informed police she was assaulted. Officers placed the 33-year-old male into custody without incident. The victim sustained minor injuries to her head and neck and was removed to an area hospital in stable condition.”

IGN received a statement from Majors' representatives, which reads, "He has done nothing wrong. We look forward to clearing his name and clearing this up." Majors' relationship to the woman is currently unknown.

https://www.ign.com/articles/jonathan-majors-arrested-in-new-york-city-on-strangulation-assault-and-harassment-charges?_cache=pass&utm_source=twitter

[Coola Yagami]

Welp



https://www.ign.com/articles/jonathan-majors-arrested-in-new-york-city-on-strangulation-assault-and-harassment-charges?_cache=pass&utm_source=twitter

It's ok. He's the right color. He won't lose his job over this.

[Andrew NDB]

It's ok. He's the right color. He won't lose his job over this.

Yep. If he did anything wrong it was as a result of systemic racism.

[ZariusTwo]

Apparently the NYC community have known he was like this for years but couldn't say anything without a victim coming forward

Kang's very nature means they can easily replace him and say it's a multiverse variant.

[Andrew NDB]

Creed 4 is guaranteed now. Creed 3 has done more than Creed 2. Domestically and internationally.

[AquaParade]

People need to remember this could be Jenna Ortega or whoever their current favorite celebrity is.

Not to pick on Ortega or imply she is capable of violence, but to point point out the celebrity worship has reached ridiculous levels. We don’t know these people. They are just our neighbors except lucky & rich. They aren’t worthy of the amount of praise we lavish.

I’ve seen the internet licking Major’s butt for months now. Not exactly sure why. Now it looks pretty stupid.

Btw, you could tell this guy had a bit of a-hole weirdness in him when he recently gave that interview defending his part in Ant-Man 3. Something about how “well the reviews on my acting were all good, so”. I mean, I get the desire to save yourself from a sinking ship but MCU is sort of a team-effort, buddy.

[IMJ]

Where are the liberal @$$wipe cries of "believe women!" now that Majors has been arrested?

What is with this "innocent until proven guilty!" thing suddenly instead of cancel culture?

Ohhhh - it doesn't fit the nu-hate model. F'n simp f's.

[ChosenOne]

Welp



https://www.ign.com/articles/jonathan-majors-arrested-in-new-york-city-on-strangulation-assault-and-harassment-charges?_cache=pass&utm_source=twitter

Holeee... Somehow I don't think "A variant did it" will hold up in court. Marvel better bring in Doom now.

[Sumac]

Not to pick on Ortega or imply she is capable of violence, but to point point out the celebrity worship has reached ridiculous levels. We don’t know these people. They are just our neighbors except lucky & rich. They aren’t worthy of the amount of praise we lavish.
I think, some celebrities do deserve admiration, but at the same time, I completely agree that nowadays they are worshipped like idols who "can do no wrong". Especially in the crowd, that is about "equality" and "hates the rich" (but only those who disagrees with their "message").

[IMJ]

I can't stand celebrities in general. The egos and the isolated sense of self-importance with uninformed opinions while having a soapbox is a horrible combination.

[ChosenOne]

I can't stand celebrities in general. The egos and the isolated sense of self-importance with uninformed opinions while having a soapbox is a horrible combination.

Sounds like everyone else in the age of social media.

[ZariusTwo]

Reps says the incident was caused by the woman having an 'emotional crisis'

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/jonathan-major-alleged-assault-evidence-1235564860/

[ChosenOne]

What happened to "Believe all women"?

[Sumac]

Reps says the incident was caused by the woman having an 'emotional crisis'
Surrrrrrrrrrrre.

[Galactus]

Alright, I’m comfortable now cementing that I feel like they do in fact need a commercial comeback.

Their trajectory is horrible. Someone should make a graph.


We're still talking about Ant-Man here. Like the franchise was never a huge seller for Marvel to begin with even during Phase 3 when it seemed MCU hype had almost all of their movies grossing up to a billion. I'd also point out that was after people were writing them after a bunch of movies were perceived as lackluster in Phase 2.

If Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and Spider-Man 4 end up under-performing I'd say they have a huge problem but until then I see nothing but a bit of audience fatigue.

What happened to "Believe all women"?

The idea behind "believe all women" is that their claims of assault are taken seriously and handled sensitively not that we have to literally believe everything they say.

As for Majors; innocent until proven guilty and all that but I think the best approach is to delay the two Avengers movies they have planned with him in. If by then he's found not guilty then great and proceed as planned and if not recast which I'm sure would be accepted by the public considering he's only been in one movie and that had multiple different versions of Kang.

Personally I think it was slight panic that made Marvel Studios green light those two Avengers movies. The Kang Dynasty you could pretty much do at any time but personally I'd prefer any adaption of Secret Wars happen after they have set up The Fantastic Four (and maybe even the X-Men) and have a couple of their movies under their belt. I imagine it was their intention to have Kang fill in Doom's role in Secret Wars...and that would be fine enough but it would please comic fans to have a somewhat accurate adaption with Doom as the villain plus having Avengers, Fantastic Four and X-Men in a movie would be bigger than Infinity War and Endgame.

[Sumac]

The idea behind "believe all women" is that their claims of assault are taken seriously and handled sensitively not that we have to literally believe everything they say.
Once again you're behind your current postulates of your own ideology.
Shame on you.

[IMJ]

Once again you're behind your current postulates of your own ideology.
Shame on you.

Yup. Another leftist disingenuously clarifies the meaning of their manipulation as it suits them.

[ChosenOne]

The idea behind "believe all women" is that their claims of assault are taken seriously and handled sensitively not that we have to literally believe everything they say.

Want them to be taken seriously, maybe don't make up claims to hurt men in very public instances such as Ms. Indelible-On-The-Hippocampus and the serial abuser formerly known as Johnny Depp's wife.

[Andrew NDB]

Yup. Another leftist disingenuously clarifies the meaning of their manipulation as it suits them.

Yep. Back you go, Galactus. Back to TheMarySue or CNN for reprogramming. Your leftist firmware is outdated.

[AquaParade]

I like how I called out the shite cgi in this trailer as soon as it dropped, while people were needing out over Kang and the illusion of high-stakes storytelling, then a couple months later, the visual effects head is fired (Alonso).

Master critic right here. “That painting is bad. This food is bad.”

[IMJ]

-shrugs-

Marvel VFX have been $#!( across many of their releases. This is nothing new. Since at least late 2018 I've been talking about how Black Panther looked like a 1990's sci-fi TV show with some of the worst matte work in film.

Recognizing Marvel's bad VFX isn't an intellectual feat. The only thing it does is separate someone from the "drones" who come out of every movie saying "it was the best Marvel movie YET!" :roll:

[AquaParade]

Bro, you called a slate with Superman, Batman, Robin, Green Lantern, and Swamp Thing a slate of “D-listers”. You’re still on “time out” with me. :P

Black Panther looked awful in the final act but it wasn’t 2+ hours of volume green screen. It’s still a visually pleasing film in many ways.
It was clear to me from the ant-man trailer that we were reaching new lows.

Aaaaand she’s gone. I’m on a roll.

[ZariusTwo]

Marvel's chairman has been sacked

https://deadline.com/2023/03/marvel-entertainment-chairman-ike-perlmutter-cut-from-disney-1235312663/

[Andrew NDB]

Marvel's chairman has been sacked

https://deadline.com/2023/03/marvel-entertainment-chairman-ike-perlmutter-cut-from-disney-1235312663/

It's sort of like Putin, though. If he goes away, are we pretty sure it won't be someone worse who takes his place?

[Galactus]

Yup. Another leftist disingenuously clarifies the meaning of their manipulation as it suits them.

Ya got me. I'm disingenuously misrepresenting the meaning of the phrase "believe all women" to lull everyone into a false sense of security so that we can all be accused of abuse...even though as a man that will affect me to.

Want them to be taken seriously, maybe don't make up claims to hurt men in very public instances such as Ms. Indelible-On-The-Hippocampus and the serial abuser formerly known as Johnny Depp's wife.

There is a very small number of false claims of abuse made by women. It would probably help you if the example you gave was accurate. You do realise that Depp vs Heard case never definitely disproved that the earlier ruling in the case against The S*n newspaper that Depp had been physically abusive at least a dozen times, right? The takeaway from the whole fiasco should have been that Johnny Depp and Amber Heard are both horrible people that were in toxic relationship that often had them physically attacking each other. It's sad but not surprising that the whole thing was hijacked by horrible people that use it as the ultimate gotcha to prove that most claims of domestic abuse by men are made up.

Yep. Back you go, Galactus. Back to TheMarySue or CNN for reprogramming. Your leftist firmware is outdated.

We do get CNN in Britain but it's not something that is hugely watched. The only time I've ever watched it is when I stayed up to watch US presidential debates. I've also rarely read Mary Sue.

I do know know a little of were you get radicalised though. I remember you use to quote Pyjama Watson a fair amount. It's been a while and hopefully you realised he's an idiot that is only taken seriously because he's got a British accent...if you want I can do that for ya and as a bonus I can talk really fast like that other loser Ben Shapiro you like.

[ChosenOne]

Forget Shapiro and start doing stand up comedy, you have a clear talent for it.

[IMJ]

Bro, you called a slate with Superman, Batman, Robin, Green Lantern, and Swamp Thing a slate of “D-listers”. You’re still on “time out” with me. :P

Black Panther looked awful in the final act but it wasn’t 2+ hours of volume green screen. It’s still a visually pleasing film in many ways.
It was clear to me from the ant-man trailer that we were reaching new lows.

Aaaaand she’s gone. I’m on a roll.

DC's upcoming film slate sucks. And I realized that digging it in to actual explain where I was coming from with you was useless.

[AquaParade]

DC's upcoming film slate sucks. And I realized that digging it in to actual explain where I was coming from with you was useless.

You were coming from “I didn’t take two minutes to read the slate but had a meltdown regarding its contents anyway.” Then when you were corrected, you doubled down.

A slate with Batman, Robin, Superman, Swamp Thing and Green Lantern…simply isn’t a “slate of D-listers”, I’m sorry.
You can say “yeah, I spoke too soon”, or even “this slate sucks”. That’s fine, but trying to twist it into anything else doesn’t hold water.

I mean, you were coming at me hard when I tried to explain that “Brave and the Bold” is a Batman and Robin movie. If you didn’t know that - that’s perfectly okay…but once you start melting down like that, it’s just weird.
You went from “you don’t know that Batman’s in this movie!!” to “it’s not my fault I didn’t know!!” Lol. Anyone curious just go read the James Gunn DC thread. It is pretty funny ngl.

That simply isn’t a list of “D-listers”, despite how you may feel about the slate. I mean, even singling out Swamp Thing as a “D-lister” was bizarre. You acted like respecting Swampy was proof that someone was “pretending to like comics” or something crazy. It’s actually the opposite - anyone who reads comics knows the legendary pedigree of Swamp Thing, from Len Wein, to Bisette, to Alan-freakin-Moore, to Mark Millar, Morrison, Veitch. Crazy thing to say lol.
You wlll find Swamp Thing by Alan Moore rated as the greatest comic run of all time on many lists. So that was probably the most backwards thing you said, other than implying Batman and Superman being part of a “D-list” slate.

Look, I don’t even like Gunn’s films. I can’t sit through one. And I have no interest in Green Lantern, or some of the other announced projects. I do like to keep things in perspective though and not just lash out from pure emotion and assumption. Facts matter to me.

Anyway, sure was nice to see Ant-Man crash and burn. This is what the MCU needed.

[Andrew NDB]

Anyway, sure was nice to see Ant-Man crash and burn.

Did it, though? Critically, yeah. But it's going to end its run almost exactly where Ant-Man 2 landed. And still has been making more money than Ant-Man 2 every weekend its been out.

[AquaParade]

Did it, though? Critically, yeah. But it's going to end its run almost exactly where Ant-Man 2 landed. And still has been making more money than Ant-Man 2 every weekend its been out.

That's a good point, but I feel like the consensus is pretty firm right now that MCU is in a major rut and Ant-Man 3 seems to cement that. Feige hyped this one hard and they marketed the crap out of it. May have made less than previous ones.

[Andrew NDB]

Feige hyped this one hard and they marketed the crap out of it. May have made less than previous ones.

Yeah, there's really no reason why this wouldn't have made at least as much money as Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, which earned way more than it deserved to. Probably a lot of the reaction is a direct result of the fallout from that movie, too.

[Andrew NDB]

Jonathan Majors' attorney shares texts from the victim:

https://comicbookmovie.com/ant_man/ant_man-and-the-wasp-quantumania/ant-man-3-star-jonathan-majors-attorney-shares-text-messages-sent-by-alleged-victim-a201380?fbclid=IwAR3ZnbHaLv7FdxbAQgQe4d3vS8bNW1Zyu _0cnYBqLGRYKZFwt981bpgx-rk

Now I'm not saying Majors beat her and I'm definitely a fervent believer that anyone can accuse anyone of anything, anytime, and many times it'll turn out to be B.S.. That said... those texts seem SUPER rehearsed. Like they were written by a lawyer. Like, his people or like Disney suits immediately offered her millions of dollars to play ball.

[AquaParade]

It sounds like she is blaming herself for being assaulted. Guy looks very guilty to me but I’m not going to be the judge and jury. Just saying how it looks to me.

[ZariusTwo]

That said... those texts seem SUPER rehearsed. Like they were written by a lawyer

An A.I Lawyer:P

[Autbot_Benz]

May 17th it hits Disney +

[CyberCubed]

I just recently watched this on HD for free on the illegal streaming websites. It wasn't AS BAD as reviews made it out to be, but I can see why some people didn't really like it. Bill Murray's character was really pointless, and Michael Douglass kept staring at him with a smile in his scenes it almost made it seem like, "Hey we're the only two actors from the 80's in this movie and we both know each other" type of thing.

[Autbot_Benz]

I just recently watched this on HD for free on the illegal streaming websites.

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

https://i.imgur.com/M7ZZgcJ.gif

[CyberCubed]

Well i certainly wasn't going to pay to see this movie.

I did pay to watch the Mario movie though. Nintendo deserves my money.

[Coola Yagami]

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

https://i.imgur.com/M7ZZgcJ.gif

You act as if this movie was worth paying for. **** woke MCU. Let them continue to bomb movie after movie after they drop the wokeness and focus on making actual GOOD movies.

[Autbot_Benz]

You act as if this movie was worth paying for. **** woke MCU. Let them continue to bomb movie after movie after they drop the wokeness and focus on making actual GOOD movies.

no not that I am just sick and tired of Cubed in every movie thread bragging that he pirates everything and anything like the cheap bastard he is.

I haven't seen it yet I am waiting for it to drop to D+. So I am not paying for it at all. Its a family member's D+ account I get to use.

Last I Checked Ant-Man isn't woke it's just a forgettable 3rd movie bloated in CGI

[IMJ]

Last I Checked Ant-Man isn't woke it's just a forgettable 3rd movie bloated in CGI

Kang was race swapped in it. I don't really care about that, but I'm just sayin' that is indicative of woke $#!(. But I wouldn't build a pyre on that one against Ant-Man.

Truth is that I think a lot of goodwill towards these Marvel movies is gone after years of other woke $#!( and boring lineups.

GOTG 3 is finally putting Quasar on screen it seems. But they went with Phylla-Vell - the white-haired, lesbian agenda character that transformed "Quasar" into a "mantle" which completely misunderstood the character as "Protector of the Universe" rather than "a Quasar". :roll:

So the point is that while it's all diminishing and not being shoved down our throats as badly, the holdovers are still there.

[Mayhem]

Question, vaguely serious note, booked it to see Guardians 3 next weekend, do we need to see AntMan3 first due to Kang etc? Haven't gotten to watching it yet, we do have D+.

[Andrew NDB]

There could be an argument made for making a traditionally white guy supervillain into a black guy is actually going against the tide. It would be the opposite if anything.

[Galactus]

Another argument is that since they were including the idea that Kang was once actually Rama Tut who ruled as a Pharoah of ancient Egypt (which they totally should as that's both comic accurate and a great alternate version of the character in his own right) it probably wouldn't have made much sense to make the character white.

Another argument again is that the race of this particular character isn't really that important and only idiots should give a sh*t.

[Sumac]

They want recast Kang as Egyptian, and I mean real Egyptian, as in Copt, no-one knows about them and Hollywood, like libtards in general, has only two settings - White and Black, everyone else either collateral or just "there" to serve their interests, even if making Kang Egyptian would've indeed made the most sense.

[Andrew NDB]

Good on Evangeline Lilly:

y0YqkcwRqa8

[ProphetofGanja]

Ew, are we really posting Ben Shapiro videos now? :ohwell:

[ZariusTwo]

Evangeline Lilly quitting hollywood for the time being

https://ew.com/evangeline-lilly-is-stepping-away-from-acting-8657877