Rise Official Episode Discussion S1 EP25/26 Insane in the Mama Train/End Game

[Vicky82]

Season final is tonight

25 - Insane in the Mama Train

26 - End Game

Sorry I don't know the episode descriptions for both episodes.

[IndigoErth]

Be advised, as far as having them share a thread, that these do not appear to be a paired up set of episodes and are simply listed as airing tonight in subsequent half hour blocks and may not automatically be paired up as future repeats.


I kind of like that there is no description, and I've noticed this week that even the cable listings do not offer one, so... maybe these two are decent enough to want to leave it unknown on purpose? (Unless someone just forgot to do their job.) As one of those with a poor view of this series, I do however look forward to these.

[Vicky82]

Be advised, as far as having them share a thread, that these do not appear to be a paired up set of episodes and are simply listed as airing tonight in subsequent half hour blocks and may not automatically be paired up as future repeats.


Andy said on Twitter that it was a 4 part final, so that's why I put both in one thread.

https://twitter.com/wolfboy74/status/1195462741244481537?s=20

[IndigoErth]

The Hamato ancestor's voice! :D

(edit: Can't find credits online, nor is it credited on the suspected actor's IMDB...but it's got to be him, right? And I'm not even gonna say who.)


Yeah, if you aren't crazy about this series, these were pretty worth seeing. :twink: It would be such a different show if the whole thing looked like this.

Honestly, I think I liked the first one better. I like the Turtles actually trying to be serious for once... even if it seems a bit forced since they had zero chance to actually train (aside from right now) and some of it seemed laid on a bit thick and random in some ways, but still rather enjoyable for them to try to get serious for once. Too bad that didn't last... dammit. The whole Hamato clan thing too. That sorta sucks. Wish they didn't walk back on those. But otherwise these eps were some of the best.

Anyone who likes this Splinter will probably love him in these.

And FINALLY got a hint of an answer to the backstory for Mayhem.

Draxum...
Yeah, he didn't get to be "Shredder" for long, and never really was.

The RPer will probably be happy, just saying...

[PApagreg]

26 Insane in the Mama Train-
Honestly I'm kinda mixed on this one I was excited when I found out they were using the ninjas garb but it kinda turned into "See guys we are acting like the REAL TMNT" which even I as fan of the show thought was kinda annoying. But other than the episode was good, like always the animation and comedy was top notch too and I really enjoyed how the voice actor for 2k12 Splinter voiced the Hamato ninja.

26 - End Game
Thought this was the better episode of course we get the "It's what makes us different that makes us unique" but I do loved how the turtles pretty much combined their skills and abilities to defeat Draxum and speaking of Draxum we actually learned some backstory about him apparently he is an orginal Yokai alchemist who heard the prophecy of the Yokai getting extinct so he decided to turn the humans into mutants in the hopes of stopping said extinction. Splinter was pretty much great in this episode and its amazing how much he changed in the 1st episode compare him sleeping after milk and cake to taking on over 30 foot clan members including the Lieutenants. The show continues to give me Trigger flashbacks when Draxum turned into a drill(I was half expecting Fight The Power to play when the turtles went off to fight Draxum). Going back to the whole combining powers I also really enjoyed how it was April who finished Draxum off by using a baseball bat people may not like this version but I really enjoyed her character in this past season(even if she gets little annoying).What I didn't expect however was that this episode was going to end in a cliffhanger so yeah really excited for the next episode.

[marcelangelo]

Loved die Finale! Especially the comic book part teenage mutant flashback...man i wish there were comics to this Show looking like this out.
Hoon lee!!!!just too Great. For me he was the best Part of the 2k12 Show.
Speaking of that...i liked that they took some Element from every Cartoons iteration in die first episodes beginning (donnie swinging his bo when charging was from 2k3 and something Else that just Escapes me Now, hoon lee and the hamato clan symbol came from 2k12, as well as the very first shot of the Opening being the same image as from 2k12s Debut episode (which coincidentally was also called rise of the tmnt...), and i Feel like that cake fight in the lair was very much in style of the 80s original cartoon(also Mikes Farewell to the pizza)..so, if they indeed deliberately went for the reference, i found it great.

Man, this show is Really a lot of fun to Watch in my oppinion...de have Now more Canon, they picked up Stuff from the very first episode and the Action is so much fun and filled to the brim with dynamic🤣

[Ninjinister]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/c/cf/Saki_shredder.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20191117123705

[shredder orokusaki]

So now we have confirmation that Splinter is Hamato Yoshi and that Liu zitsu is the name he was using on movies. Very soon i will kill the turtles!

[VaughnMichael]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/c/cf/Saki_shredder.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20191117123705
Greatest visual joke in all of TMNT history. :lol:

[neatoman]

So I'm guessing Draxum pulled a Voldemort? He thought he was building power to prevent the end of the world but his actions only helped make it possible, then ended up being too weak to really correct that.

[Leofan26]

Well, the conclusion was neat. The rest of the episode was a bit dissapointing in my opinion though. I did like Splinter's character development, started off literally a filthy rat but evolved into a kind loving father like his past Splinter characters. I wonder how the next season will start? It ended with Shredder officially being reborn and the turtles watching it all happen, they shouldn't be able to go back to the normal after all this, you'd think. I guess it depends on how things are handled, even in the 2003 and 2012 turtles had some down time after Shredder happened. I hope the next character to get character development of this show is Leo, I really want to see how he turns things around after everything.

Edit;

Did they say season two starts right away? I think I remember hearing that but can't remember.

[IndigoErth]

I did see an ad claiming that there is a new ep next Saturday, so I guess season 2 starts next weekend. (It's not immediately running off for a hiatus? Kind of surprising.)

I hope it will continue the cliffhanger. Though going by the other known titles, including early season Flushed and Lair Games that we already saw... not holding my breath that we aren't going right back to the same formula we've been on and soon to be asking "Shredder who?"

[PApagreg]

So speaking of Sakuga that Leo scene was almost Sword of the Stranger good(okay I exaggerate but it was awesome.)

https://66.media.tumblr.com/9ab035ae14eb0d59ed24688becdf4f96/dbc68cc2f31a6418-26/s500x750/db455b1e2c7b8ae7736673e89a0db0bbd717bcfc.gif

https://66.media.tumblr.com/f2c1b7bdcbb141a55e88407e0213d5b4/180fc6f456e62150-a0/s500x750/24404efc7492ff3eb4b0ccbf37729d70d598c1e4.gif

Also I another thing I notice was that these entire fight scenes are a callback to the first episode, Leo lost his swords to Baron's knights, Raph got his butt kicked by the mentioned and Donnie could't land a hit on Baron because of Mikey.

Also not only does this show have Gurren Lagaan refrences but also Evangelion

https://66.media.tumblr.com/9e8122ee4fedb3ebd391bc2e563808a8/6969bf394a2e0dd3-9c/s640x960/5115865f71e441d5d87dbda427a0b0aa6356088e.jpg

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[Autbot_Benz]

After seeing what shredder looks like. This show is basically Bayturtles the animated series.

Big hulking Robot shredder
short small Splinter
Big hulking Raph
Donnie with tech crap all over his body.
etc

[neatoman]

After seeing what shredder looks like. This show is basically Bayturtles the animated series.

Big hulking Robot shredder
short small Splinter
Big hulking Raph
Donnie with tech crap all over his body.
etc

Three out of four are rather superficial similarities, and the thing about Shredder being a robot ain't quite right. The most relevant similarity I can think of aside from aesthetics is that a major villain intentionally made the turtles in a lab for some evil purpose, which actually started with IDW and the three versions of that idea are very different in terms of who and why.

Come back to me when at least some of these apply:

April as a newsreporter
Vernon running around hitting on her
Casey as a bland corrections officer
Eric Sacks
All the Turtles being 220 cm tall and able to punch cargo containers across a dock
Bebop and Rocksteady having more screen time than the actual villains

[PApagreg]

After seeing what shredder looks like. This show is basically Bayturtles the animated series.

Big hulking Robot shredder
short small Splinter
Big hulking Raph
Donnie with tech crap all over his body.
etc

Well not a robot but sentient armor which isn't that different from Tengu Shredder

That's true in almost every incarnation sans 2k12

True

I would't consider head, back and arm "all over his body"

[IndigoErth]

Am I remembering correctly that this Shredder, sans Draxum, had a rather oddly long neck going on there...? With those claws, all it needs is a dino tail and we've got a Demon Shreddersaurus Rex.

[shredder orokusaki]

Iam a ancient demon just like i was in 2003 series not a utrom or a utrom inside a robot like i also was in 2003 series.

[matteso586]

1) Remember the Foot Recruit's debut episode? Maybe Shredder's face was the artifact that she was tasked to find. 2) Any idea how April hid her jacket (or at least the sleeves) while in disguise? 3) The thing that Draxum gave to Big Mama. Think it could be important later on?

[The Great Saiyaman]

Sorry for the ones who hate it when I start talking about my fan comics but in this case I have to.

Because I had this scene in my recently finished comic where because of 2012 Hun having defeated the Rise-Turtles, injuring Mikey and Leo and Donnie with a broken leg from his visit to the 2012 world, a B-team was assembled to start keeping an eye on things.
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/128dbac3-9706-47e7-adfc-d33dcd996e8f/ddicy4x-ba2a7df0-3c83-4ffd-bd0c-5ba487fb0806.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJ IUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQz NzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZT BkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6 W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzEyOGRiYWMzLTk3MDYtNDdlNy1hZG ZjLWQzM2RjZDk5NmU4ZlwvZGRpY3k0eC1iYTJhN2RmMC0zYzgz LTRmZmQtYmQwYy01YmE0ODdmYjA4MDYuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIj pbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.hpOaur9B Gq2G-MO_WprB-Ot1xuNZRAs61BN7fV44sQc

So when I saw "End game" I went "WHAT, NO WAY!"
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/b/b7/Bteam_rise.png/revision/latest?cb=20191117123238
I had no way of knowing that that episode would have a B-team, let alone that I got Bullhop and Frankenfoot as members right.

I drew that scene almost two months ago, I simply had no idea that the actual series would get a B-team.

[IndigoErth]

2) Any idea how April hid her jacket (or at least the sleeves) while in disguise?
I'm voting...unexplored Mary S April powers. The same ones that caused Megan Fox's April's pants to vanish between shots when she put on the school girl skirt in the last film.

[PApagreg]

I'm voting...unexplored Mary S April powers. The same ones that caused Megan Fox's April's pants to vanish between shots when she put on the school girl skirt in the last film.

Dude you seriously try to call April a Mary Sue just because of a gag.

[IndigoErth]

Dude, try to get the jokes.

[Poweranimals]

"Insane in the Mama Train"

Wow! It was great to see the Turtles finally get serious but the mind meld thing was random. Having all them all wear red was a clever homage to their original comic counterparts. It's nice to see how much their skills have improved since the start of the series where they almost kinda seemed like ninja flunkies. Still, it wouldn't be the Turtles without hijinks which we saw in the beginning and how careless they can be.

I enjoyed Splinter's role in this too. We finally got confirmation of his real identity as Hamato Yoshi. I also loved that Splinter's main ancestor was voiced by the 2K12 Splinter.

I'm still not really sure what April's role in all this was supposed to be though. She doesn't seem to have much training. It was good to have there as a spy but if the Turtles had actually showed up when they were supposed to, she really wouldn't have been needed.

[IndigoErth]

Ran across it this morning... forgot about this line.

"And none of us gave him grandchildren??"

Cringey? Funny?

Because even with the "how even??" aside, the teen pregnancy theme is totally what a TMNT series, esp with supposedly "younger" Turtles, needs. Yep. o.O

Funny, but a little awkwardly creepy? Yeah, I think that's what imma go with.

[PApagreg]

Ran across it this morning... forgot about this line.

"And none of us gave him grandchildren??"

Cringey? Funny?

Because even with the "how even??" aside, the teen pregnancy theme is totally what a TMNT series, esp with supposedly "younger" Turtles, needs. Yep. o.O

Funny, but a little awkwardly creepy? Yeah, I think that's what imma go with.

I mean i assume they were talking about giving him grandchildren when they are older.

[IndigoErth]

Ah, but would that not be more appropriately "will give him," vs the past tense "gave"? Hmm...

[PApagreg]

Ah, but would that not be more appropriately "will give him," vs the past tense "gave"? Hmm...

Beforehand Mikey mentioned fulfilling their destiny and Leo mentioned the stuff they did and didn't do(give Splinter grandchildren)

[Poweranimals]

"End Game"

Things got pretty intense here. It was nice to see the Turtles and Splinter learn the value of their uniqueness. Them reclaiming their original colors was nice to see.These characters have come a long way over the course of the season. I ended up enjoying it way more than I expected.

It was great to finally see the Shredder. I also liked that we got more backstory for Draxum.

The only thing I didn't like was the whole B team plot was kinda rushed. Did they even get any lines?

Anyway, a great way to end the season. It'll be interesting to see what they do with season 2.