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Andrew NDB
12-23-2019, 12:10 PM
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Assuming you had to choose just one and assuming the movie would be "Batman Begins"-level good and the Netflix show would be "Daredevil" season 1-level good.

newfan
12-23-2019, 12:15 PM
I am greedy, I want both! Hmm, a series would last longer.... and it's ONE good movie rather than a few.... I'll vote when I've thought about for a bit.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
12-23-2019, 12:18 PM
I think a movie would reach wider audiences and (hopefully) influence people more. But a show would give us more actual content.

Decisions, decisions... :tlol:

PApagreg
12-23-2019, 12:21 PM
Something like TMNT works better as a TV show than a movie so I chose the latter also make it animated.

CyberCubed
12-23-2019, 12:22 PM
A movie is about 2 hours long.

A series would likely go on for many episodes adding up to at least 20 hours of material. The answer is obvious.

FredWolfLeonardo
12-23-2019, 02:32 PM
My first impulse was to vote for a Netflix show, but honestly thinking about how a movie is usually on a far bigger scale (bigger story, more epic stakes, higher budget etc.), makes me choose that option now.

AquaParade
12-23-2019, 02:53 PM
Fun question.

I'm inclined to say movie, because I still believe it can have a more substantial impact on the franchise, if it is successful.

That said, a netflix series is also appealing. It spares us the required three-act structure ending in a big battle that is growing pretty tiresome for me when it comes to comic book films.

Wesley
12-23-2019, 03:22 PM
Voted for movie. I’d like it to be a sequel to TMNT 2007.

Andrew NDB
12-23-2019, 03:24 PM
Voted for movie. I’d like it to be a sequel to TMNT 2007.

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inaheap
12-23-2019, 03:38 PM
Gotta say there are pluses to both. Netflix is a bit niche. But I like the idea of a longer running story than 2 maybe 3 hours.

wpugh2424
12-23-2019, 04:26 PM
I want a series cause I want to have something to look forward to once a week or however they schedule it.

Wesley
12-23-2019, 05:04 PM
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I know. Would be great if it did, though.

AquaParade
12-23-2019, 05:32 PM
I ended up voting for the Netflix option.

It's something we haven't seen attempted yet and it just sounds promising, in that they could actually give the story some room to breath.

Normally, I'm a quality of quantity type of person, but if I am being given one shot here to get a TMNT product of the highest quality, then with this franchise, I am taking as much as I can get while the gettin' is good. Give me all 8-12 hours of the Netflix show.

IndigoErth
12-23-2019, 05:34 PM
I'm just going to be selfish and say both. How is one really to choose between that...

Leo656
12-23-2019, 05:38 PM
Oof. I'd love a live-action Netflix series (we've had a bunch of animated shows, feels like a waste not to take full advantage of the "freedom" Netflix offers by making it live-action), but as others have said, a really solid live-action movie might do more to jump-start the franchise.

I mean, TV shows are great and there'd obviously be much more content and a lot more to be explored. BUT. General audiences still have the attitude of, "If a franchise is legitimately 'hot', they make a movie, not a TV show." Plus it could help wash away the stain of the last couple films.

Tough question, I abstain. Both would be great.

IMJ
12-23-2019, 05:46 PM
I'd like to see an anthology animated series. Give me a season that is black and white in the Mirage Universe that we saw at the end of the Turtles Forever show.
Then let's see a different season with a new iteration.
And a third season maybe using the Fugitoid in Dimension X.

Call the show TMNT Universe. And when this is done pay me for the idea here. Hell, I'd consult in story development. ;)

Galactus
12-23-2019, 07:31 PM
I'd take either but ideally I want a good Movie. If we're talking live action I'm not sure you could so TMNT proper justice on a TV show budget.

Then again after the last movies performance at the box office I'm still shocked they are talking about another movie so soon and would question how much money they would throw behind a big screen outing either.

I'd probably have more faith in a TV show team creatively doing TMNT "right" but in an ideal world I'd take a good TMNT movie over a good TMNT Netflix show. A really good movie could really turn the franchise around (and potentially affect the quality of further TV projects) whereas a Netflix series no matter how good and critically acclaimed would at best would only be used to show Paramount "see this is what TMNT can be" which would be nice but no real guarantee of swaying a bunch of execs dead set on another Fred Wolf-fest.

Roseangelo
12-23-2019, 07:43 PM
TV, definitely.

For all the rumors there were of an Obi-Wan movie, I am so glad we are getting a series instead.

shredder orokusaki
12-24-2019, 01:21 AM
The next movie is happening it has alredy be announced. As for the next series it is too early to talk about it as the current series in it second season. But why would Nickelodeon allow netflix which is the worst enemy to make a series? why make a deal with the devil? Netflix will use this deal to hurt nickelodeon somehow. https://www.subscriptioninsider.com/news/netflix-and-nickelodeon-agree-to-multi-year-deal-for-kids-shows-6729-1.html Here it says it is for shows for kids. Do you know what this means? Another rise like show. If you watched the Inspector gadget 2.0 show on neftlix you will now what iam talking about. This show is way more kiddy and silly than rise of the tmnt and it was created by neflix. Now do we want a tmnt series so stupid and kiddy like Inspector gadget 2.0? No. But what Neflix is doing.

Andrew NDB
12-24-2019, 01:48 AM
The next movie is happening it has alredy be announced. As for the next series it is too early to talk about it as the current series in it second season. But why would Nickelodeon allow netflix which is the worst enemy to make a series? why make a deal with the devil? Netflix will use this deal to hurt nickelodeon somehow. https://www.subscriptioninsider.com/news/netflix-and-nickelodeon-agree-to-multi-year-deal-for-kids-shows-6729-1.html Here it says it is for shows for kids. Do you know what this means? Another rise like show. If you watched the Inspector gadget 2.0 show on neftlix you will now what iam talking about. This show is way more kiddy and silly than rise of the tmnt and it was created by neflix. Now do we want a tmnt series so stupid and kiddy like Inspector gadget 2.0? No. But what Neflix is doing.

Because Nick just struck a big deal with Netflix like 2 months ago. That's why.

And the next movie has been "announced" in that they have some goons making a script for Platinum Dunes. That doesn't mean anything is greenlit, it means they're exploring a thing.

TV, definitely.

For all the rumors there were of an Obi-Wan movie, I am so glad we are getting a series instead.

Me, too. Though I think it's super short like 5 or 6 episodes. Whatever. It can breathe more. I wonder if they're eyeing it as a one and done miniseries or a... open to season 2 affair.

wpugh2424
12-24-2019, 10:10 AM
Because Nick just struck a big deal with Netflix like 2 months ago. That's why.

And the next movie has been "announced" in that they have some goons making a script for Platinum Dunes. That doesn't mean anything is greenlit, it means they're exploring a thing.



Me, too. Though I think it's super short like 5 or 6 episodes. Whatever. It can breathe more. I wonder if they're eyeing it as a one and done miniseries or a... open to season 2 affair.

There are so many stories to play out in a gritty dark series , hope they would explore more than one season

PApagreg
12-24-2019, 10:14 AM
If it is a gritty live action TMNT I hope its more structured like Doom Patrol where every episode is its own adventure with some continuity in between instead of Netflix Marvel where it feels like I'm watching a 13 hour movie.

wpugh2424
12-24-2019, 10:34 AM
If it is a gritty live action TMNT I hope its more structured like Doom Patrol where every episode is its own adventure with some continuity in between instead of Netflix Marvel where it feels like I'm watching a 13 hour movie.

I would be happy with a dark mirage style cartoon series made for the older crowd like the Castlevania series

Dejablue
12-24-2019, 01:43 PM
Strategically 1 good movie will result in a tv show. So you could get both if you play your cards right.

Episodic show would be best. I don't want a 13 hour movie.

frank_one
12-24-2019, 02:10 PM
The Turtles deserve the big screen, I don't care about the damn Netflix.

wpugh2424
12-25-2019, 07:27 PM
The Turtles deserve the big screen, I don't care about the damn Netflix.

thats sad, that would mean not as much turtles

neatoman
12-25-2019, 07:47 PM
A show would cover more content, so I pick that.

wpugh2424
12-25-2019, 08:11 PM
A show would cover more content, so I pick that.

couldn't agree more as long as its quality

Andrew NDB
12-25-2019, 11:09 PM
The Turtles deserve the big screen, I don't care about the damn Netflix.

10-13 hour long live action episodes of TMNT done right in live action that people can watch on Netflix might move the meter way more than a TMNT movie that nobody might even bother seeing (after audiences being burned by 2 movies in a row). And might change your mind.

I'm talking Daredevil season 1 quality, but like if half of the episodes were like the Nobu episode.

Warhorse
12-27-2019, 08:09 PM
My first impulse was to vote for a Netflix show, but honestly thinking about how a movie is usually on a far bigger scale (bigger story, more epic stakes, higher budget etc.), makes me choose that option now.

After watching Game of Thrones, it shows a TV show can have big scales, stories and epic stakes. Even though the last two seasons fizzled, you can't deny that episodes like Battle of the Bastards and Hardhome are excellent forms of entertainment, even if it is TV.

With this, if the show is going to be on Netflix, and if they style it more like say Daredevil or The Punisher, then hell yeah, I'm all for it. And besides, with TV shows, you get the little moments which make the characters like the Turtles shine.

Ashangelo
12-28-2019, 08:09 PM
As much as I’d love both. I’d have to go with a badass Netflix series.

Slade
12-29-2019, 07:09 AM
You sold me on like Daredevil. So, show. Live action, maybe use the prop shop garage suits with some updates.

CyberCubed
01-03-2020, 04:41 PM
The Turtles deserve the big screen, I don't care about the damn Netflix.

They had 6 movies on the big-screen, it's not going to make a difference. And any movie will probably just cover the origin and another Shredder fight again, whereas a TV series could cover larger parts of the mythos over time, especially if it goes on a few seasons.

A movie would be around 2 hours long, how much can you really cover in that time but the basics? Introduce the characters, the origin, meet April, explain Shredder the Foot...we've seen it so many times.

A TV series can do so much more. Also in 2020, "online streaming" is basically just as big as movies. This isn't 2005 anymore, "direct to video" is no longer looked down upon.

newfan
01-03-2020, 05:08 PM
A series would keep this place busy for longer if it had enough seasons :) Movie would if there was more than one and granted there would still be a lot of before and after discussion even with just one.

ninja-zero
01-04-2020, 12:30 PM
I'd make a live action Netflix. Arrowverse/Gargoyles style.

Warhorse
01-04-2020, 03:38 PM
Wouldn't it be great we had a scene that was just one shot like the Daredevil hallway scene?

ninja-zero
01-04-2020, 05:21 PM
If a new TMNT goes live action on Netflix in a darker kind of world like Gargoyles & the Arrowverse, I'd go for the turtles in different species like in ROTTMNT.


Leonardo - Red-Eared Slider
Raphael - Wood Turtle
Donatello - Softshell Turtle
Michelangelo - Box Turtle
Jennika - Golden Thread Turtle
Slash - Alligator Snapping Turtle


Plus maybe add some new Foot mutants to join Koya & Bludgeon in their elite. A chameleon & Tasmanian devil would fit well.

Stockman from being a fly in 1987 & 2012 along with being a cyborg in 2003, how about Stockman as a "flyborg"?

Andrew NDB
01-04-2020, 05:27 PM
You'd have to change the origin. There's no way you'd put a box turtle in the same bowl as a snapping turtle or a red eared slider. It'd be a massacre.

PApagreg
01-04-2020, 08:03 PM
You'd have to change the origin. There's no way you'd put a box turtle in the same bowl as a snapping turtle or a red eared slider. It'd be a massacre.

...So have them in separate boxes?

Warhorse
01-04-2020, 08:25 PM
...So have them in separate boxes?

Or better yet, just not mess with what's not broken. Keep them all as red ear sliders, all hatched from the same batch so they are real brothers. The story worked beautifully for 30 plus years, and it's obvious by the lack of ratings for Rise that people just aren't digging the new changes. :P

ninja-zero
01-05-2020, 11:21 AM
You'd have to change the origin. There's no way you'd put a box turtle in the same bowl as a snapping turtle or a red eared slider. It'd be a massacre.

So leave the five western pond turtles? or just one? If no box turtle then Mikey as regular.

80gmrp
01-05-2020, 11:42 AM
Debates regarding what the quality would be aside, this was actually a difficult poll for me. As much as I agree with the consensus that a series would be able to deliver more content than even multiple movies, I’ve never been fond of subscription models, meaning if I can watch it both legally and without subscribing to Netflix, I will.

newfan
01-05-2020, 11:50 AM
Netflx has been the most value for money TV service for me, cheaper than the mandatory TV license fee we have to pay yearly for the BBC, which I rarely watch.

Anyway, so far as following and enjoying, you get it all at once on Streaming so people are at different eps, where as commercial TV you get the ep discussion cause most are at the same place, however being outside the US would suck because we'd have to wait for it. It's nice getting shows at the same time as you guys when I've been looking forward to them.

I'm still tempted to vote the series, just for lasting enjoyment and story/character depth (assuming you like where it is going) But I would also love to have a good movie.

sdp
01-05-2020, 01:50 PM
For animated shows Netflix has a big issue with quality, there are only a few shows I actually think are great (https://miscrave.com/?s=netflix), most fall in the mediocre category while others are just downright bad.

I'm not too crazy for netflix getting TMNT as convenient as it would be, let's see how their deal with viacom goes for their 90s properties.

Leo656
01-05-2020, 05:21 PM
Watching Cobra Kai has definitely opened up my eyes towards the possibilities of doing a TV series, for sure.

Problem is, it's highly unlikely that it would be put together with the same TLC as Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai is a love letter to the Karate Kid franchise made by people who absolutely care, completely understand what fans want to see and how to execute it, and is being produced by some of the people involved in the creation of the series. They're not trying to sell you a product, they're simply telling a damn good story that builds on the previous stories in a logical and fulfilling way. I wish EVERYTHING could be done this way, but it's really such a perfect storm of unique elements that I don't think could be reproduced under different circumstances.

The potential is there, though. I think the problem with trying something like TMNT is, you're always gonna have to make it a toy commercial, and that's unavoidable.

ninja-zero
01-05-2020, 06:40 PM
Watching Raph & Leo thrown into the window of April's home injured has been memorable. Who'd be next? Donnie or Mikey? I wanna see Mikey hurt next.

Warhorse
01-05-2020, 08:27 PM
Watching Raph & Leo thrown into the window of April's home injured has been memorable. Who'd be next? Donnie or Mikey? I wanna see Mikey hurt next.

I wondered this too. I say change it up some. Why not have it be Casey's home and not April's for once as well?

ninja-zero
01-05-2020, 08:55 PM
I wondered this too. I say change it up some. Why not have it be Casey's home and not April's for once as well?

Yes. But what about one of the turtles to get wounded instead of Raph or Leo?

Mario500
01-07-2020, 01:00 PM
Could someone change the name of this topic to something like this:

What would you prefer, one great TMNT movie or one great Netflix TMNT show?

Andrew NDB
01-07-2020, 01:04 PM
Watching Cobra Kai has definitely opened up my eyes towards the possibilities of doing a TV series, for sure.

Problem is, it's highly unlikely that it would be put together with the same TLC as Cobra Kai.

Yeah, there's almost zero chance.

The Cobra Kai model: We've got an idea we feel passionately about, we want to bring it to life and find investors that feel as passionately as we do in the material. If it takes years, whatever, we can wait.

The TMNT Nickelodeon model: We want to make a TMNT TV show and we need to find some corporate puppet director/producers to execute what our boardroom/focus group has determined would maximize toy profits. And we want it now!

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-07-2020, 03:27 PM
A movie is about 2 hours long.

A series would likely go on for many episodes adding up to at least 20 hours of material. The answer is obvious.

I never understood why Disney films were so hyped when I was a child. Just one or two hours, and then it's all over.

Warhorse
01-07-2020, 05:35 PM
Yes. But what about one of the turtles to get wounded instead of Raph or Leo?

I said yes. It could be done pretty easily enough. Mikey could be going to get some pizza when he gets jumped, or say they all get attacked and Mikey, who is the fastest of the group, decides to act as a decoy so the others can leave, but he gets caught. Maybe he can be the one captured and taken hostage instead of Splinter.

Also, what if the first person they meet is Casey Jones this time, and not April? Maybe have it Casey and his younger sister, and then have April come in season 2. Maybe she can be a doctor or a nurse to change things up.

Mysticwarrior7
01-07-2020, 07:08 PM
One badass movie

pferreira
03-05-2020, 02:23 PM
Gimme gimme a great movie. :D