Things about eighties cartoon series which irk you.

[The Great Saiyaman]

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Yeah, with such a title, I figure I'd get the elephant in the room straight away. TMNT got their start as a cartoon series too and for many of us (me included) introduced us to the series.

But eighties cartoon series, as legendary as they are, were stuffed full with mistakes, continuity errors and plot holes.

Take for example Transformers the episode "The Key to vector Sigma" we see Rumble steal cars to make a new team of Decepticons from: the Stunticons. Now Rumble, being one of Soundwave's cassette tapes, is a small Transformer, in fact, there are scenes of Spike Witwhikey fist fighting Rumble and the two of them are or equal height.
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Rumble fighting Perceptor, showing to good effect his small stature.

So if Rumble is just as tall as a normal human, then what's the deal of him being bigger than the cars he steals?
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And after the Stunticons have been given the ability to transform, they are shown to be much taller than Rumble is.
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He could have easily sat down behind the wheel of the cars when they were still cars as he's small enough to do so.

Also in the same episode. How the heck did Soundwave end up in the Cargo area of Ironhide's standing next to Blaster, seriously, how did that happen without anybody noticing it happening, the Autobots KNOW who Soundwave is and what he looks like when transformed.
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He-man and the Masters of the universe and the spin off She-ra Princess of Power The main flaw of that series was the fact that Filmation used a LOT of stock footage, many of the scenes were redrawn scenes from earlier episodes all to save the costs of animation. Which is also why He-man and Prince Adam look exactly alike and yet NOBODY figures out they're the same guy?
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With She-Ra and Princess Adora, it's different. A Tiara, a different voice and a different eye color really DOES change her appearance enough.
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But it only takes the removal of the Tiara...
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And yet nobody makes the connection.

So how about something a bit more obscure: here's Ovide Video
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And here's the same opening song but in Dutch.
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With the latter one, they made an effort to make the lyrics of the song go with the music, something which the American Dub put in no effort whatsoever of doing, the lyrics are cluttered up and rushed in some places.

Now one ought to think that when producing a cartoon, that the people in charge have access to a sound bank. This song from the series The Bluffers shows that that wasn't always the case. Was it really too hard to dub in the sound of a pneumatic hammer, a tank firing its gun or an explosion?
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The episode from which that song came was full of examples of not using the actual sound, when the Bluffers wanted to raid the museum and steal the book underneath the dome in the clip (They did so by actually lifting the dome up...) they tripped the alarm off which was one of those alarm bells but there was no effort put in to use the sound of an actual bell ringing.

So was the Fred Wolf TMNT without flaws like that?

...no...

How for example did Lotus Blossom deliver a pizza into the Turtles' lair? How did nobody notice her sneaking in, how did she know where the liar was in the first place?

[IMJ]

Back then animation was widely a different animal. Logic and continuity were an after thought in most cases, second to just pumping out the material which was widely designed to support or advertise a product line.

If a production team could make logic fit during pre-production they would, but if something slipped by there was generally little reward for addressing or fixing it.

Also, those shows were truly intended for kids who, back then were probably more forgiving of animation error for a variety of reasons than they are today. Most notably because we had no stewards for animation the way children today do. That is to say that it was just us, the shows and the toys back then. But today, we've all grown up but stuck with what we loved and now sort of steward these things on to our own kids.

It's a more demanding market now than it was back then, widely for those reasons.

[oldmanwinters]

The "Good Guys" almost never went on the offensive against the "Bad Guys." It was always responding to the threat of the day posed by the villains. I suppose there's some moral lesson in that, but eternal vigilance doesn't have to be passive.

[CyberCubed]

I just didn't like how Christian soccer moms controlled the level of violence in kids cartoon back then. A lot of shows were not even allowed to show the good guys punching the bad guys, it was ridiculous.

You look at the cartoons aimed at kids in the early 2000's, like Teen Titans, the DC cartoons, Avatar, etc...and characters beat each other up just fine, there's often death or serious injury, and no kids had their heads explode.

Christian soccer moms ruined my childhood. Just think of all the cool fight scenes we could have gotten in our cartoons when WE were the target audience. But no, "Little Timmy" can't see a bad guy get punched in the face. "Oh TMNT is too violent for kids" when the original cartoon was so tame as it was.

Damn the Christian soccer moms from the 1980's and early 90's....you people ruined my childhood!

[MikeandRaph87]

I think you mean animation-wise. The infamous New York's Shiniest plot hole about the Turtles on patrol in the Turtle Van and go threw the whole burned into the bridge only for April, Splinter, and Rex-1 to be driving in it. Somewhere between the writer, Richard Merwin would have realized it when writing it and the animation team that it was impossible for the submerged vehicle to be driven by someone else and have the side door busted.

The Ninja Sword To Nowhere, Blast From The Past, and Michelangelo's Birthday all have poor plot resolutions. I would have preferred to have more sensible to the situation resolutions.

[oldmanwinters]

I just didn't like how Christian soccer moms controlled the level of violence in kids cartoon back then. A lot of shows were not even allowed to show the good guys punching the bad guys, it was ridiculous.

You look at the cartoons aimed at kids in the early 2000's, like Teen Titans, the DC cartoons, Avatar, etc...and characters beat each other up just fine, there's often death or serious injury, and no kids had their heads explode.

Christian soccer moms ruined my childhood. Just think of all the cool fight scenes we could have gotten in our cartoons when WE were the target audience. But no, "Little Timmy" can't see a bad guy get punched in the face. "Oh TMNT is too violent for kids" when the original cartoon was so tame as it was.

Damn the Christian soccer moms from the 1980's and early 90's....you people ruined my childhood!

I expect it's far more likely that you should cast your blame upon government boards and certified "experts" in child psychology, etc. rather than some ladies who just wanted to monitor their children's entertainment options. That said, if all that "ruined" your childhood, sounds like it didn't have a very good foundation.

The 1980s were actually a remarkable time for children's animated programs, on account of Ronald Reagan's presidential administration scaling back government regulations which opened up more programming possibilities than had existed in any previous decade. The same guy who was probably elected into office by a large number of those dastardly "Christian soccer moms" you disdain so much.

[Voltron]

These don't so much irk me as add to the entertainment value. I'm already in a world where the fantastic is common place. The fact that things just happen because they're convenient just add to the hilarity.

It's like watching old Showa Godzilla movies. In Godzilla vs. Hedorah, Godzilla learns to operate a giant device to fight his opponent. Or the time he just decides to jump kick a Megalon and. . . well, it's just a thing of beauty.

I can totally understand why this would drive people nuts, though. The times when they messed up the headbands in TMNT always bothered me. Though over the years I started taking it less as a bug and more as a feature.

[Coola Yagami]

The need to usually have some sort of goofy silly 'adorable' character who always messes up or does something to 'make the kids laugh'. Snarf is annoying, Orko always messes up his spells, the Superfriends had a random monkey, etc etc.

[drgon78]

That they ended.:lol:

-That the writers were so limited in what they were allowed to do.
-Very few continuing story arcs and few series got a proper ending.
-Annoying mascot characters.
-Animation and continuity mistakes.
-Action series got watered down over time.
-Censorship!!!

[Voltron]

The need to usually have some sort of goofy silly 'adorable' character who always messes up or does something to 'make the kids laugh'. Snarf is annoying, Orko always messes up his spells, the Superfriends had a random monkey, etc etc.

I take it back. These irk me. Especially when they start to overshadow the other characters. Slimer slowly took over The Real Ghostbusters, and I just can't stand the later seasons because of it.

[Storm Eagle]

The need to usually have some sort of goofy silly 'adorable' character who always messes up or does something to 'make the kids laugh'. Snarf is annoying, Orko always messes up his spells, the Superfriends had a random monkey, etc etc.

Characters like Snarf and Orko actually never annoyed me, to tell you the truth.

[Wildcat]

I understand it was a different era but some mistakes are still inexcusable imo. Some mistakes are understandable but others were glaring errors like the continuity stuff.

I don’t remember NY Shiniest off the top of my head but it must have been more work to actually put in what should not reappear again.

I do remember once where Michelangelo jumps onto a ladder, the blimp I think. The animation is ok but there’s a clone standing where he was. So for these couple of frames they just didn’t care to take him out?

Reusing stuff like that He-man example is ok in comics but in animation it’s stiff and noticeable. Were they forced to do that? Did it really save that much money?

I’m bothered by some of the older Simpsons. You can see a shadow behind everyone so its apparent they’re on a separate layer and put over backgrounds. Nobody has a shadow directly behind them like a cardboard cutout.

I’ve only noticed 1 error more recently. Don’t remember the episode but Marges hair clips into the wall for moment. It looked computer animated but that’s a good thing.

I love how clean, crisp and vibrant The Simpsons have become. That goof aside it’s kind of sad how basic the animation and colors are in the really old episodes. Even at the time other cartoons had more detail.

[Leo656]

The only stuff that really bothered me back then was like, the wrong voices being used (Leo's voice coming out of Mikey's mouth, or whatever), or really sloppy coloring errors. Like a lot of the time on Super-Friends, with Superman's S-shield they'd invert the red and yellow parts, or they'd flip the black and yellow parts of Batman's chest emblem. Just really lazy sh*t like that that anyone with half a brain would have noticed and fixed. "They're kids, they're stupid, they won't know" kinda sh*t, basically. Because you KNOW they noticed during the editing process, they just figured the audience would be too stupid to notice or care, and that always bothered me, even as a kid.

Snarf-like sidekicks are always annoying but I'm guessing they also sold a lot of toys, or it wouldn't have become such a prevalent thing for a while.

Besides, it's not Snarf's fault that Lion-O was such a limp-wristed Nancy.

[IMJ]

Characters like Snarf and Orko actually never annoyed me, to tell you the truth.

As a kid, I thought Orko was cool, but only a few short years later Snarf drove me nuts. But Snarf from the Cartoon Network reboot was terrific. That show needs a movie or something....

[Leo656]

I kinda dig Orko. His heart was in the right place.

I'm genuinely not sure whether Snarf or Lion-O was honestly more useless in the original Thundercats. Snarf was definitely more annoying upfront, but Lion-O was just infuriating in how much he LOOKED like he should've been a bad-ass but couldn't mix f*cking oatmeal without calling the whole team for help first.

[Utrommaniac]

There's something about the voices of villain characters that was always really grating. Especially in their sidekicks.


And then of course (especially in the case of He Man) the insistence on having as little animation as possible to keep things under budget - and on-model. Very little room for flexibility.

[Wildcat]

I just remembered something. I can’t be the only one to notice. It was very common in older cartoons.

A lot of times the objects that characters were set to interact with were prominently colored and brighter than the overall environment.

They stuck out even if they had not been mentioned. You could easily tell what was “in use” and what was just background.

This really does annoy me because what was so hard about drawing and coloring objects that blended well with the entire environment?

It breaks the illusion because it’s like my Simpsons example. The 2 separate layers of art are so obvious.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

The need to usually have some sort of goofy silly 'adorable' character who always messes up or does something to 'make the kids laugh'. Snarf is annoying, Orko always messes up his spells, the Superfriends had a random monkey, etc etc.

Orko's spells are like Donatello's knowledge of science and technology. Always there to defeat the bad guys, never there otherwise. (Orko's magic doesn't work when entertaining for a birthday party, Donatello's pizza making machine always blows up)

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I just remembered something. I can’t be the only one to notice. It was very common in older cartoons.

A lot of times the objects that characters were set to interact with were prominently colored and brighter than the overall environment.

They stuck out even if they had not been mentioned. You could easily tell what was “in use” and what was just background.

This really does annoy me because what was so hard about drawing and coloring objects that blended well with the entire environment?

It breaks the illusion because it’s like my Simpsons example. The 2 separate layers of art are so obvious.

I always noticed that especially in Tom and Jerry cartoons, never bothered me too much.

[CyberCubed]

Most 80’s and a lot of 90’s cartoons also lack continuity or continuing storylines. Everything was one and done besides the occasional 2-parter. Sure each show had stuff that continued, but there was no season long plots or narrative like shows today have. They did it because episodes aired out of order on TV all the time so kids can jump in at any time and not be confused.

It’s really weird to go back to a time when most shows were episodic and had no continuity or continuing season long story arcs.

[IMJ]

There's something about the voices of villain characters that was always really grating.

Always so over the top... like Skeletor with that "NyaH! NYAH!" in his voice! LMAO!

I chaulk a lot of that up to the generations playing the part - maybe that kind of performance was more sensible to them considering that when they were kids villains were sort of that extreme, mustache twirling or "Ming the Merciless" kind of bad guy.

[drgon78]

Snarf never bothered me...though Snarfer annoyed the crap out of me.

I have always liked Orko. I like it when you find out how powerful he is on his home dimension.

[neatoman]

Choppy frame rate
Coloring errors
Layer errors
Recycled footage
Scaling errors
Characters speaking in the wrong voice
Odd sound effects
Missing sound effects
Pacing issues
Characters talking without moving their lips
Characters not making any sound despite lip movement
Inconsistant characters
Continuity problems
Plotholes
Toothless comedy
Deus Ex Machinas
Insane plot elements
Characters getting replaced for the sake of selling toys
Weird items intended to sell toys (like a mutagen toilet for instance)


It's sad how common these errors used to be...

[ABrown]

And yet, ironically, all of these 80's cartoons (flaws and all) are more entertaining than most of the cartoons of the last couple of years.

[Coola Yagami]

I just remembered something. I can’t be the only one to notice. It was very common in older cartoons.

A lot of times the objects that characters were set to interact with were prominently colored and brighter than the overall environment.

They stuck out even if they had not been mentioned. You could easily tell what was “in use” and what was just background.

This really does annoy me because what was so hard about drawing and coloring objects that blended well with the entire environment?

It breaks the illusion because it’s like my Simpsons example. The 2 separate layers of art are so obvious.

Yeah!!! Like if a fire hydrant looked more 'cartoony' you knew that one was going to be used rather than the more realistic painted parking meters. Or if a piece of the ceiling is cartoonish, you know that part is gonna collapse over the rest of the ceiling.

[Cure]

That's how cel animation works. The different layers aren't usually done by the same person or even at the same time, so they're not gonna blend in with each other.

[CyberCubed]

And yet, ironically, all of these 80's cartoons (flaws and all) are more entertaining than most of the cartoons of the last couple of years.

Nah, most have not aged well. I love the original TMNT cartoon because it was a parody and didn't take itself seriously, but a lot of other cartoons of the day tried to "play it straight" and have aged poorly because of it.

I think the late 90's through the early 2000's was the best time for cartoons. I think around 2008ish was the cut-off spot, even though we got some great shows that started that year like Brave and the Bold and Clone Wars began that time.

[Wildcat]

That's how cel animation works. The different layers aren't usually done by the same person or even at the same time, so they're not gonna blend in with each other.Really? Well I didn’t know they’re done by different people but I still think they could have matched up.

Both sides knew what they were working on. The animated portions just needed to be drawn and colored accordingly. I think it should have been pretty easy.

They must have had background images available so they could line things up. It would have made a more seamless presentation.

[IMJ]

And yet, ironically, all of these 80's cartoons (flaws and all) are more entertaining than most of the cartoons of the last couple of years.

I dunno man... I cherish the 80s properties and shows in my mind's eye. But I've got to tell you that getting through any single episode of any of those shows that took themselves seriously can be grueling in hindsight. I love 'em, but it's really hard to argue that the 80's truly hold a candle to something like Thundercats '11 (was it '11?) or TMNT '12.

The thing is - the shows that are intentionally ridiculous are so much easier to watch after all this time - FW TMNT and The Real Ghostbusters are good examples. Batman TAS will always hold up, although that was a 90s animal.

But MOTU? G.I. Joe? Transformers.... very difficult to get through.

[drgon78]

I can easily watch He-Man and she-Ra, they hold up fine to me though there are some character voices that can be annoying especially in She-Ra. The show is camping but that is what gives it it's charm. I also love the 2002 version but can't stand the design of He-Man's sword.

Thundercats were best when they were serious and a little dark. I do like the 2011 series but that one never got a chance to really grow and develop.

TMNT was at it's best in the beginning before it become completely goofy or that 90's "to the extreme" mutation crap.

The Transformers was not bad in it's first two seasons bur after that I can only think of one decent episode that had what seemed to be an aged Cobra Commander. But I love the animated movie.

G. I. Joe had some great episodes(if not downright messed up) though once they added Serpentor then it went down hill. I also love the animated movie.

Dungeons and Dragons is still fun to watch, too bad they never got to finish the story on that one.

The Real Ghostbusters was great but later episodes got way too goofy and the focus on Slimer got really bad. The voice changes didn't help but they still had some great episodes after that.

Other 80's cartoons I can still watch would be The Smurfs, Jem and Holograms, Galaxy High, Garfield and Friends, Mysterious Cities of Gold, and The Littles come mind.

There are many that never got a physical release and I haven't seen in years. There are also a few that it is best to never see them again.:lol:

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

The 1980s were actually a remarkable time for children's animated programs, on account of Ronald Reagan's presidential administration scaling back government regulations which opened up more programming possibilities than had existed in any previous decade. The same guy who was probably elected into office by a large number of those dastardly "Christian soccer moms" you disdain so much.

Does anyone know why legislation was re-introduced in the 1990's? Who were the main forces behind? Christian extremists? Politicians? Soccer moms?

[turtle1237]

I just didn't like how Christian soccer moms controlled the level of violence in kids cartoon back then. A lot of shows were not even allowed to show the good guys punching the bad guys, it was ridiculous.

You look at the cartoons aimed at kids in the early 2000's, like Teen Titans, the DC cartoons, Avatar, etc...and characters beat each other up just fine, there's often death or serious injury, and no kids had their heads explode.

Christian soccer moms ruined my childhood. Just think of all the cool fight scenes we could have gotten in our cartoons when WE were the target audience. But no, "Little Timmy" can't see a bad guy get punched in the face. "Oh TMNT is too violent for kids" when the original cartoon was so tame as it was.

Damn the Christian soccer moms from the 1980's and early 90's....you people ruined my childhood!

At least Thundarr did not hold there punching. Most of the evil wizards Thundarr face in a episode, do end up dead. Had Skeletor been in Thundarr and not He-man, trust me, Skelector would not of been a recurring villain. He would of been turn to stone like Gemini, blown up or something. Sadly the violence in Thundarr was its down fall after 2 seasons, as it got cancel for that reason.

[turtle1237]

That's how cel animation works. The different layers aren't usually done by the same person or even at the same time, so they're not gonna blend in with each other.

You have your characters, background, and foreground layers to make it seem like the characters are "In" the area, there mostly paste there for animation purpose. And in some cases you get some awkward moments with the layer format. I was watching Crunch the Rockdog from MLP, and were they place Danny, it would seem he was checking his sister Megan out. It was so odd and awkward.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

At least Thundarr did not hold there punching. Most of the evil wizards Thundarr face in a episode, do end up dead. Had Skeletor been in Thundarr and not He-man, trust me, Skelector would not of been a recurring villain. He would of been turn to stone like Gemini, blown up or something. Sadly the violence in Thundarr was its down fall after 2 seasons, as it got cancel for that reason.

I define the era of 1980's cartoons lasting from September 1983, when He-Man and the Masters of the Universe debuted, until September 1992, when Animated Batman first aired.

[turtle1237]

I define the era of 1980's cartoons lasting from September 1983, when He-Man and the Masters of the Universe debuted, until September 1992, when Animated Batman first aired.

You know the 80's had Cartoons before He-man and the Masters of the Universe. And Batman the Animated series was a 90's cartoon. NO WAY could BTAS get away with what it did had it aired in the 80's. You think they let Harvey Dent get scared up to be Twoface? Batman having "Somewhat" bloody fight with Man Bat. The Joker gassing people with his smiley X?

[oldmanwinters]

Does anyone know why legislation was re-introduced in the 1990's? Who were the main forces behind? Christian extremists? Politicians? Soccer moms?

This might help:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulations_on_children%27s_television_programming _in_the_United_States#1996_regulations

I didn't think there was much legislation being introduced at the federal level during the first half of the 1990s decade, but each television network had their own BS&P department which tried to self-regulate content in order to avoid unwanted controversy or running afoul of the Federal Communications Commission. Of course, the U.S. Congress grew particularly concern about the oversight of violence in video games during the 1990s, but I think most cartoon censorship was done in-network.

I have read about the FOX network being far more open to "violence" in the early 1990s (compared to their competitor networks) so that shows like Batman: The Animated Series could freely show the impacts of humans punching and kicking (without the consequences of blood or serious injury) but the network literally pulled the punches in their Saban/Marvel cartoons a couple of years later. Eventually, the DC cartoons moved to the WB Network where I expect their BSP department gave them more leeway.

Around the middle of the 1990s, just about every network dropped Saturday morning cartoons altogether on account of government mandates pushed by FCC Commissioner Reed Hundt (Bill Clinton appointment) demanding networks give children "educational programming." Hundt's proposal was apparently backed by 24 Democrats and only 1 Republican.

So if you want to blame somebody for "ruining" your cartoon shows, blame the U.S. government.

[CyberCubed]

Another thing I think everyone hated back then is cartoons were just randomly canceled out of the blue without any proper "endings" at all. Like the last episode could be a random unimportant episode with the villains still at large and nothing been resolved.

Of course not that many shows had continuing plotlines back then, but I always hated when a cartoon got canceled and I'm like, "Wait, that's it? Where's the ending? They didn't really defeat the villains yet." and then there was just...no more episodes.

Thank god these days now most cartoons are allowed to have proper endings before they're canceled.

[turtle1237]

Another thing I think everyone hated back then is cartoons were just randomly canceled out of the blue without any proper "endings" at all. Like the last episode could be a random unimportant episode with the villains still at large and nothing been resolved.

Of course not that many shows had continuing plotlines back then, but I always hated when a cartoon got canceled and I'm like, "Wait, that's it? Where's the ending? They didn't really defeat the villains yet." and then there was just...no more episodes.

Thank god these days now most cartoons are allowed to have proper endings before they're canceled.

The 80's cartoons relied on the rerun format. Inspector Gadget was never allow to nab Dr Claw. C.O.P.S were not allow to lock up Big Boss, Skeletor was never going to get imprison by He-man, Oddly the only time the villain gets a "Final" is in girls cartoons. How many times did Megan, Rainbow of Light some evil doer to ashes? It was insane, Boy cartoons, you cant have any one die, and here in My Little Pony, she was pretty much putting Bad guys to death lol.

[ABrown]

Nah, most have not aged well. I love the original TMNT cartoon because it was a parody and didn't take itself seriously, but a lot of other cartoons of the day tried to "play it straight" and have aged poorly because of it.

Have they aged well, no. But I still find them much more entertaining than anything I've seen from 2018-present.

I think the late 90's through the early 2000's was the best time for cartoons. I think around 2008ish was the cut-off spot, even though we got some great shows that started that year like Brave and the Bold and Clone Wars began that time.

I 100% agree.

I dunno man... I cherish the 80s properties and shows in my mind's eye. But I've got to tell you that getting through any single episode of any of those shows that took themselves seriously can be grueling in hindsight. I love 'em, but it's really hard to argue that the 80's truly hold a candle to something like Thundercats '11 (was it '11?) or TMNT '12.

My statement wasn't comparing the 80's cartoons to shows from that far back. I wasn't comparing the cartoons of the 80's to shows from early in the previous decade like 2011 Thundercats, Transformers Prime, or Nick's 2012 TMNT series. Heck, I wasn't even comparing the 80's cartoons to shows from the middle the decade that just ended: Star Wars Rebels, 2015 Transformers Robots in Disguise, Justice League Action. My statement was only comparing the 80's cartoons to anything from 2018-present.

The thing is - the shows that are intentionally ridiculous are so much easier to watch after all this time - FW TMNT and The Real Ghostbusters are good examples. Batman TAS will always hold up, although that was a 90s animal.

But MOTU? G.I. Joe? Transformers.... very difficult to get through.

And yes, my statement still stands. I find any of those cartoons to be much more entertaining than anything from 2018-present day.

[IMJ]

My statement wasn't comparing the 80's cartoons to shows from that far back. I wasn't comparing the cartoons of the 80's to shows from early in the previous decade like 2011 Thundercats, Transformers Prime, or Nick's 2012 TMNT series. Heck, I wasn't even comparing the 80's cartoons to shows from the middle the decade that just ended: Star Wars Rebels, 2015 Transformers Robots in Disguise, Justice League Action. My statement was only comparing the 80's cartoons to anything from 2018-present.



And yes, my statement still stands. I find any of those cartoons to be much more entertaining than anything from 2018-present day.

LOL! Take it easy.... we're just talkin', not trying to publicly discredit your feelings about the cartoons, man. -wow- :roll:

The 80's cartoons relied on the rerun format. Inspector Gadget was never allow to nab Dr Claw. C.O.P.S were not allow to lock up Big Boss, Skeletor was never going to get imprison by He-man

That "endless battle of good vs evil!" often didn't carry a story anywhere!

My Little Pony, pretty much putting Bad guys to death lol

-jaw drops- LOL!

[turtle1237]

LOL! Take it easy.... we're just talkin', not trying to publicly discredit your feelings about the cartoons, man. -wow- :roll:



That "endless battle of good vs evil!" often didn't carry a story anywhere!



-jaw drops- LOL!

I think it was more of how long we can make a series run, than making a story lol. If you hit the 65 episode mark, You can make money by pretty much rerunning the series on TV and yes sale toys in the process.

Yeah and don't judge me if I like the original MLP, even over Friendship is magic. It has its charm, villains and story. Also being a "Girls" cartoon, they could get away with a bit more than a boys Cartoon could ever hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaQ7F58pK2g&t=199s

After seeing this as a kid, I was hook and Megan became one of my child hood heroes. She was up there with Thundarr and He-man and Penny.

[IMJ]

I think it was more of how long we can make a series run, than making a story lol. If you hit the 65 episode mark, You can make money by pretty much rerunning the series on TV and yes sale toys in the process.

Exactly.

Yeah and don't judge me if I like the original MLP, even over Friendship is magic. It has its charm, villains and story.

Never! :) We like what we like. Sometimes it's neat to find that "charm" in a property that you stand by! :)

[ABrown]

LOL! Take it easy.... we're just talkin', not trying to publicly discredit your feelings about the cartoons, man. -wow- :roll

That's the problem with texting, message boards, etc. You can't always get an accurate feel for the manor in which someone is speaking. I wasn't saying that with any hostility. My apologies if I made it seem otherwise.

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That's the problem with texting, message boards, etc. You can't always get an accurate feel for the manor in which someone is speaking. I wasn't saying that with any hostility. My apologies if I made it seem otherwise.

Ohhhh I gotcha. I say that frequently about the texting, forum thing as well. Totally with you on that..... Very cool.
:)