Thoughts on Sequel Comics to Various TMNT Films/Shows?

[Adventuremaster18]

I recently got back into comic books and have come to realize there's a lot of comics which actually act as sequels and continue the story of shows/films. Like the Avatar the Last Airbender graphic novels, Adventure Time Season 11, MLP Season 11, Angel After the Fall, Buffy, Invader Zim, etc.

I wonder though, how would anyone feel about a comic continuation of any of the TMNT TV series/film series that have long since ended? Like TMNT 2003, TMNT 2012, TMNT 2007, or TMNT 1990.

I wouldn't mind seeing more adventures of the 2012 turtles, I would be interested in seeing a continuation of the TMNT 1990 film, possibly ignoring the sequels, and adapting the stories of the unmade 2007 TMNT sequels into comics could be interesting. It would most likely be different writers making it though, but I feel it could be interesting.

[AquaParade]

Oh, I'd absolutely love a comic sequel written by Steve Baron with pencils by Brendan McCarthy.

I mean, I rather have a film sequel, but if made, that could easily be one of my favorite comics.

[ChosenOne]

I greatly enjoyed the comic seasons of Buffy and Angel, and definitely wouldn't mind seeing something like that for the various TMNT shows over the years.

[oldmanwinters]

I think the live-action films would make for the most interesting comic continuations considering the already established media properties.

There's loads of content for a great Fred Wolf style comic, mostly because the pre-Red Sky era was very much a status-quo episodic story, which gives writers a great freedom to build upon established continuity and characters without being hard locked into the source material's strict time-line (like the 4Kids or Nick show). The IDW comics based on the Nick show were very inconsequential stories, which was the opposite of that's show's M.O., but it would work perfect for the Fred Wolf era-verse.

But my personal preference would be a new TMNT universe built upon the foundation of the vintage Playmates Toy looks and backstories.

[SS Kakarot]

I actually mentioned something like this in a different thread (https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=1747120#post1747120) about two years ago. :lol:

[Chris]

I’d like to see a continuation of the 2K3 series and stuff like the Shredder War they teased but never got to do. 2K12 would be good but you’d probably need to ignore the Mutant Apocalypse arc.

[ChosenOne]

(...) Shredder War (...)

Swear to god, this combination of words has more of an effect on me than Viagra.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Fred Wolf
Rivalry between Hamato Yoshi and Oroku Saki in Japan

Turtle Tots (the turtles mutating later and growing that big in Turtle Tracks are just flashback scenes, maybe popping up in April O'Neil's mind)

Dimension X prequel until Krang ends up on Earth

Rat King's background (I would prefer him being a university student who carries out dangerous expirements with chemicals, and is kicked out)

Gadgetman's adventures. And Gadgetman being the hero for young Burne Thompson.

The turtles visiting more countries during vacation in Europe.

Zach when becoming older.

Bebop's and Rocksteady's backgrounds

4 Kids
Casey Jones' childhood, starting with the Purple Dragons burning down his father's shop.

Hun being cured after Turtles Forever

John Bishop's backstory

2012–2017 Nickelodeon Cartoon

Ivan Steranko's backstory, and adventures as a war volunteer in Iraq, Yugoslavia and the DR Congo before joining the Foot Clan

Human Irma (if she ever was around on this Earth)

The events up to the mutagen bomb

[Adventuremaster18]

I think it'd be best it just ignore the Apocalypse episodes, especially since Nick themselves consider it to be an alternate reality. I'd like to see how things continued had that not occurred, such as seeing what the Turtles are up to in adult hood and such.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I think it'd be best it just ignore the Apocalypse episodes, especially since Nick themselves consider it to be an alternate reality. I'd like to see how things continued had that not occurred, such as seeing what the Turtles are up to in adult hood and such.

Has Nickelodeon officially confirmed the Apocalypse episodes taking place on an alternate Earth?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Has Nickelodeon officially confirmed the Apocalypse episodes taking place on an alternate Earth?

Not directly as far as I know.

I guess it's their decision to air the Wanted Bebop and Rock steady crossover last as well as calling the apocalypse "a tale from beyond" or something which gives people the impression that its non-canon.

[Powder]

I think it'd be best it just ignore the Apocalypse episodes, especially since Nick themselves consider it to be an alternate reality. I'd like to see how things continued had that not occurred, such as seeing what the Turtles are up to in adult hood and such.

"Nick themselves" = a bunch of suits who put fear of angry parents before artistic integrity.

It's Ciro's universe, Ciro's story. He said it's the end, therefore it's the end.

Anyone who would let investors, marketing, etc. have the final say over the creative talent behind a body of work is seriously making a questionable judgement call.

[CyberCubed]

I don't know if people here have amnesia or what, but IDW already published about 40 comics in the Nick 2012 universe. It's called Nick Animated adventures.

[Adventuremaster18]

"Nick themselves" = a bunch of suits who put fear of angry parents before artistic integrity.

It's Ciro's universe, Ciro's story. He said it's the end, therefore it's the end.

Anyone who would let investors, marketing, etc. have the final say over the creative talent behind a body of work is seriously making a questionable judgement call.

Ciro wasn't the only person making the series dude. He was the creator of it, but other people worked on it and have different ideas. Not saying he wasn't talented or the driving force of the show or bad, I love Ciro. But the show was a collaborative work by various writers, Nick, etc.

Here's what I've heard.

"While Ciro intended "Raphael: Mutant Apocalypse" to be the series finale, other staff members have a different opinion. One of the writers considers the end of season four and the Kavaxas arc to be the finale. Character designer Felipe Smith refers to its setting as "In this reality", while the TMNT Twitter (which is run by Nickelodeon) calls it "A tale from beyond," indicating that it has been rendered non-canon. They reinforced this by referring to it as "another dimension"and a "special" in an official press release for the final DVD, cementing its status. Brandon Auman halfway flip-flopped by declaring that it was up to the audience whether it was an alternate universe and that it could be seen as one, allowing everyone to be happy."

Basically it's canonicity is up to interpretation. If Nick decides to make a continuation down the line that ignores Mutant Apocalypse, then that's the official continuation, even if Apocalypse was intended to be the finale.

[Powder]

"While Ciro intended "Raphael: Mutant Apocalypse" to be the series finale,

End of story.

Also, hi.

[Adventuremaster18]

End of story.

Also, hi.

An actual response to my statement would've been nice. Gosh, now I remember why I don't talk on these forums often.

A l s o , h i .

[BlimeyBullhop]

Ciro wasn't the only person making the series dude. He was the creator of it, but other people worked on it and have different ideas. Not saying he wasn't talented or the driving force of the show or bad, I love Ciro. But the show was a collaborative work by various writers, Nick, etc.

Here's what I've heard.

"While Ciro intended "Raphael: Mutant Apocalypse" to be the series finale, other staff members have a different opinion. One of the writers considers the end of season four and the Kavaxas arc to be the finale. Character designer Felipe Smith refers to its setting as "In this reality", while the TMNT Twitter (which is run by Nickelodeon) calls it "A tale from beyond," indicating that it has been rendered non-canon. They reinforced this by referring to it as "another dimension"and a "special" in an official press release for the final DVD, cementing its status. Brandon Auman halfway flip-flopped by declaring that it was up to the audience whether it was an alternate universe and that it could be seen as one, allowing everyone to be happy."

Basically it's canonicity is up to interpretation. If Nick decides to make a continuation down the line that ignores Mutant Apocalypse, then that's the official continuation, even if Apocalypse was intended to be the finale.

Since when did character designers and corporate business men become the final say in whether or not an episode (purposely made to be the finale of the series) is canon or not? The creator— the person who’s vision made up a good chuck of the series, said it was intended to be a true ending.

A stronger case can be made for the writer, as they directly work on episodes and story, but if the writer thinks the show ended a whole season early, I don’t think he deserves a say either.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Not directly as far as I know.

I guess it's their decision to air the Wanted Bebop and Rock steady crossover last as well as calling the apocalypse "a tale from beyond" or something which gives people the impression that its non-canon.

Airdates or publication dates don't affect that. The Fred Wolf cartoon Vacation in Europe takes place during season 4, but aired later. Season 4 had messed up airdates, and Leonardo is Missing opens season 5 but aired later.

The Archie Comics Cyber Samurai Mutant Turtles, taking place in the future, were published before the Alaska issues.

[neatoman]

The Nick show is full of unresolved plot threads, so I would say continuing the story in some form would make sense. I'm not so sure about the other shows though.

The Fred Wolf show was not in any way shape or form intended to be taken seriously and most episodes were completely self-contained. It's not impossible of course, it just seems like it would be a waste of time. I can imagine if you like to go meta, like make it a fourth wall breaking commentary on adaptations or something, it could be worthwhile. But I doubt that approach would be all that popular.

There are a few unresolved things in the 4Kids show but not much. There are some things in the last two seasons that never went anywhere, like the Shredder wars, but that would only justify a few issues. It's not impossible to continue on from where it left off, but there aren't that many loose threads and to me the main appeal of the show is to see some Mirage stories animated.

For the 90's movies I don't see much reason beyond people being really attached to those movies. Maybe if it retconned TGRI to be controlled by Utroms or made it clear that the Foot only stole TVs as phase 1, you know, making changes so that much of what's going doesn't seem as... Lame as they actually were?

The Next Mutation and Out of the Shadows clearly have set-up for sequels, it's just that I don't see anyone wanting a continuation, ever.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Maybe the unproduced Fast Forward: Season 2 could have continued as a comic? I'm not the biggest fan, but I think at least the Space Usagi crossover would be interesting.

[neatoman]

Maybe the unproduced Fast Forward: Season 2 could have continued as a comic? I'm not the biggest fan, but I think at least the Space Usagi crossover would be interesting.

I guess. You might need to alter the script for the Triceraton Shredder episode if continuity is to remain intact, otherwise there shouldn't be any trouble unless there were plans to put Serling, Viral or Cody in a position that contradict BttS.

[pferreira]

There's loads of content for a great Fred Wolf style comic, mostly because the pre-Red Sky era was very much a status-quo episodic story, which gives writers a great freedom to build upon established continuity and characters without being hard locked into the source material's strict time-line (like the 4Kids or Nick show).I think if IDW got their hands on the Fred Wolf universe one of the biggest priorities is creating an in-universe reason for the Red Sky era. It seems a lot of time passes between Season 7 and Season 8.

[miru]

Nick, without a doubt:

* 2003 crossover
* Fate of Mutagen Man
* Whatever was in that cancelled miniseries
* Zodiac’s return
* “Real” Neutrinos
* More adventures with the cure

[neatoman]

Cancelled mini-series? I don't remember that.

[oldmanwinters]

* Whatever was in that cancelled miniseries


Cancelled mini-series? I don't remember that.


Y'all talking "The April O'Neil Files?"
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=53155