New "female centric" Star Wars TV show in development

[Andrew NDB]

From the writer and producer of Russian Doll:

https://deadline.com/2020/04/new-star-wars-series-female-led-leslye-headland-russian-doll-disney-plus-1202915221/

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-tv-show-details-timeline-leslye-headland/?utm_source=SR-FB-P&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=SR-FB-P&fbclid=IwAR1VvYlLqb8s6ayStcBGARzJwEwmFXWUC4JA3Fsu7 Am0oYnKoETwzLuLRQc

[Leo656]

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EDIT: Oh, great the ol' "alternate timeline" razzmatazz. AKA, "We'll just fling sh*t at the wall, and if you don't like it, it doesn't count."

A masterful tool of storytelling, and indicative of people who really care a lot and know what they're doing, as shown countless times by such timeless and acclaimed film series as X-Men, Terminator, Star Trek, etc.

Certainly never a crutch used by hacks who've written themselves into a corner. Pshaw. Pshaw and Phooey. These folks are real pros, no doubt.

[Allio]

Alternate timelines/ universes are a tricky thing for me. Stuff like comic books are no stranger to this (it is one of the reasons it’s hard to get into.) and then you have stuff like Digimon being on it’s third Adventure timeline (if you count V-tamers as a separate thing) and the only thing in the Pokemon anime that excites me is the movie-verse timeline. Heck Pokémon itself has had many alternate universes/timelines (games, anime, movie-verse, Electric tale of pikachu, pocket monsters, Pokemon special, Pokemon diamond and pearl adventures.)

[Andrew NDB]

To be fair... there's nothing they can really do. The "this needs to be female!" thing is puzzling, but beyond that... what? Something set right after IX? Who would even care about such a thing?

But yeesh. I guess if I were them, I'd make an ensemble TV show starring a lot of the sequel trilogy people. And make them matter and make people care about them, which the movies didn't do. Grow that and grow that and grow that and then... people MIGHT get excited about an Episode X in 10 years. As is, JJ killed Star Wars and Star Trek with the same silver bullet.

[Leo656]

Alternate timelines work a lot more smoothly in comic books because it's all batsh*t lunacy to begin with. They pretty much invented the trope, so they get a little bit longer leash with it, but even there, most of the time people call "Bullsh*t!" on it immediately.

It just always comes off as so blatantly pandering... 'If you like what we did, consider it canon. If you don't, well... alternate universe, just ignore it." That's so wishy-washy. If you wanna work on an established licensed property, one in which pretty much everyone else has to try and color within the established lines, and the only way your story "works" is if it's completely unfettered and disconnected from everything else, well... you're kinda just writing fanfic, now, ain't ya? And also, preemptively shielding yourself from all criticism by saying "If you don't like it, it didn't happen." Not very brave.

I'unno. As a comic book fan, I'm not entirely adverse to the old "multiverse/alternate timeline" trope, and in fact some of my favorite stories invoke it and put it to good use. But it always, always comes off as just a little bit cheap and cynical, to me. It doesn't always end up that way, but on its face it always comes off as some amateur-level junk writing. Sometimes the stories and execution redeem and justify the idea, and you get Zero Hour... and sometimes, you get Star Trek. :lol:

[Sumac]

So they afraid of tangling with regular canon, despite ruining it already, and decided to establish alternate timeline, where they will be free to do whatever.

I can understand it, but I am afraid all it lead to bashing of Luke, Han and Vader (because they are filthy evil WhIte MAlEs) and creation of worthless female Mary Sues to take their place, because no-one had learned anything from Ghostbusters'16 or Rey Sue herself.

But you know, ideology is more important than quality.

[Voltron]

To be clear: I'm not against you here. I want to watch a show that's entertaining without some preachy message getting in the way of a good story.

Here's the problem.

In the first article they mentioned:

1. The Mandalorian-which has a male lead and is a great show.

2. The Obi Wan Kenobi series-which has Ewan McGregor as the lead.

3. A Rogue One series with a male lead. This is interesting, because it seems they've replaced the female lead from the film.

Focusing on one series with some liberal tag line that has all the red flags of a "crash and burn" series seems like a waste of energy, man. You don't even have to watch it. This is like refusing to eat a steak restaurant because they have a salad bar.

Also, and I can't stress this enough, you're doing more damage than good for your cause by bringing this to people's attention. The proper way to get rid of this stuff is to not engage with it at all.

If you keep complaining about something, people are going to want to see what's so bad about it. If they see it, that generates profit. If it generates profit, then the market will make more like it.

And, since they were alerted to the product because of the politicization, the idea will gain traction even if or after the show dies.

I'm not even sure this works towards anyone's political ends. All we end up with is ****** movies with uncompelling characters. The overarching message of the new Star Wars sequel is that female characters never face any challenges are thus uninteresting. They could've replaced Rei with a piece of wood and I probably would have to squint to notice.

In the end, this just reeks of manufactured outrage that really doesn't help anyone. I'd be more curious about the "alternate timeline" which is sure to be lame as hell.

[Leo656]

I kinda feel bad for Rey. Out of all the new characters, she had the most potential before they completely botched everything. Now her toys don't even sell all that well.

Very few "new" Star Wars characters ever amount to anything, and it's a shame that they finally came up with one who had lots of upside, only to ruin it.

[Andrew NDB]

Rey had HUGE potential. And her, if not by name, was even Lucas' idea to fill out the main character role in the ST. A girl going to train with a secluded Luke was all in the outlines Disney made him write. All wasted.

[Leo656]

Plus, Daisy Ridley's pretty darn hot. I mean, she's no Margot Robbie but she's alright. Her looking all sweaty and "intense" was pretty much the highlight of the new movies, for me. Not gonna lie.

She should've been a huge star coming outta this. But I honestly think her stock has dropped considerably since all the goodwill after Force Awakens. Frankly, very few of those actors came out of the trilogy in better shape than they went in, even though it's not their fault the material was bad. That's just how these things go.

I'm not saying any of their careers is gonna "tank" or anything, but... well it's probably downhill from here, realistically.

[Andrew NDB]

Playing devil's advocate... let's look at the 10,000 foot view. Disney/Kennedy literally wanted to recreate the OT as best as they could. Literally in some ways. But from a trilogy standpoint, each film of the OT had a different director (even though George was basically running things creatively behind the scenes, which they missed). So Kennedy/Disney said, "WE ARE MAKING A NEW TRILOGY! Film #1, JJ! Film #2, Johnson! Film #3, Trevorrow!"

I mean, it makes sense. But... no one was really around to thread the needle, like George was. There was no George overseer role in any of this. It's just... drop this bomb, drop this bomb, and drop this one, too. No oversight at all beyond "we need more OT-like scenes!" Or all the forced stuff in 7. The opposite in 8... f***. What a whiplash. 7, "YOU HAVE TO ADHERE TO 4!" 8: "Do whatever you like." Then after 8 costs them the franchise: 9: "Good god, bring it back to the OT and Emperor and Falcon in corridors and ten times the TIE Fighters and such!!!! OMFG!!!"

[Leo656]

I still haven't seen it, but that whole scene with the fleet of Star Destroyers with Death Star lasers attached or whatever was some of the most dismal sh*t I've ever read.

Like yeah, lots of things sound awful on paper and then are amazing in execution, but... that, to me, sounds exactly like Abrams or someone asked their 6-year old nephew how they'd set the stage for the Big Climax. I'm shocked Darth Vader didn't come marching in on a flying T-Rex that had laser-eyes, or something.

I mean, f*ck me running, that's some hacky sh*t. "Literally a thousand Death Stars, you guys!" Like why didn't they just make Satan the bad guy, actual Satan, and literally have Rey punch out Satan to win? Too cartoony and juvenile? Don't gimme that sh*t, you've got a thousand Death Stars up in the sky, don't start talking to me about logical plot points NOW after you've willfully ceded any and all credibility. :lol:

[drgon78]

Everything Disney has done for Star wars is alternate timeline/universe as far as I am concerned.

[DarkFell]

When movie-making corporations simply cannot leave sh*t alone.

[Leo656]

Y'know what'd be dumb and lazy but I'd still kinda give a sh*t? A TV series set between New Hope and Empire, and/or between Empire and Jedi. Maybe anthology-style, I'unno.

You'd definitely have to have the original characters as a huge part of it, which would require obvious recasting and a ton of forgiveness on the part of the audience, but f*ck it, it's gonna happen eventually anyway (and already has with Han and Chewie anyway). That door's already open, might as well kick it down and do something useful with it, instead of trying to cram a character's entire origin story into a weekend like with Han.

I can already think of everything stupid about this idea but I'd still be more interested in that right now than, like, anything else except whatever they end up doing with Obi-Wan.

[DarkFell]

The Empire / Jedi thing could work since I liked Jedi more than the first two films. A New Hope basically bored me when I was younger because it felt like the movie just dragged. It can be re-watched since I'm old enough to understand more of the plot that fueled New Hope.

[Leo656]

I didn't see the original trilogy "properly" until I was like, 13 or 14? Before that I saw them in bits and pieces, including most of A New Hope like, once, really late at night one Summer.

When I was a kid, before I saw them in full, there was "The One Where Princess Whatsername Is Almost Naked For 5 Minutes", and "The Other Ones". :lol:

[Voltron]

All the new characters had great potential. And it was all squandered.

It pisses me off that ROS finally decided to talk about Finn's proficiency with a light saber in the first film. Even then, it was just implied that he felt the Force, but it was never expanded upon.

The original trilogy followed Luke, a single character on a journey to navigate this new and fantastic world.

Seems like having two characters, both so different from each other, go on that journey would be filled with awesome stories and new perspectives. Perhaps they start off as rivals and seek out different ways to train. Perhaps they're students at a fledgling Jedi Academy and get paired up in a sort of mismatched buddy cop comedy type thing.

The possibilities are freaking endless. And we got literally nothing. Even Poe Dameron just disappeared for the entirety of the first movie. Poe just shows back up with 15 minutes left and kind of shrugs off whatever his own adventure was.

What a bunch of crap.

[raph27]

It troubles me that they're announcing this while Mandalorian has only had one season, the Obi-Wan show is rumored to have production troubles, and we really haven't heard much at all about the Cassian Andor show. Announcing too much stuff ahead of time reminds me of the DC film lineup back in 2016 when they announced like 17 movies, of which 3 are actually happening.

[Autbot_Benz]

I can already see Kathleen Kennedy helping with this one. **** its not like the last 4 movies were female centric or something

[Andrew NDB]

These are the writers:

https://twitter.com/Dataracer117/status/1253241174715805696?s=19

Yikes.

[Sumac]

Oh. My.
If I was a betting man, I'd bet that the new Star Wars series will contain high amounts of misandry and fat women.

[Leo656]

Pretty gross! Their agenda, I mean, not the fact that they're kinda "puffy".

Again, this is what happens when the people who never had a date in high school start being put into positions where they can "get even" with every guy they crushed on who ignored them in favor of the cheerleaders.

It's like fast forward two decades, and you can give 'em money, status, titles and influence, but they still are mostly hung up on the fact that the cheerleaders got all the D instead of them, and it motivates everything they do.

Sad.

[Coola Yagami]

Get woke, go broke. They just never learn.

[Andrew NDB]

Like, if there was ever any doubt as to Disney's M.O.... after everything they've put out and the backlash it has gotten, THESE are the people they seek out to make more? Actively?

[Xav]

Again, this is what happens when the people who never had a date in high school start being put into positions where they can "get even" with every guy they crushed on who ignored them in favor of the cheerleaders.

It's like fast forward two decades, and you can give 'em money, status, titles and influence, but they still are mostly hung up on the fact that the cheerleaders got all the D instead of them, and it motivates everything they do.You sure about that? She did call herself a queer woman.

[Sumac]

You sure about that? She did call herself a queer woman.
Which can and most likely means "I kissed a girl on the party once, while drunk".

Interesting take on this "female" wars thing:
W6GSEVPdybc

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, "queer" doesn't really mean much, does it? It is basically "I'm not entirely straight" or "I just don't like to be called straight" or some kind of vague "I don't fit into any of those categories, but I'm not straight and want to be included in the LGBTQ."

[Leo656]

And also - and I know this isn't a popular thing to say out loud anymore - but speaking anecdotally, I've known a few chicks who spent a long time getting rejected by guys and then miraculously "realized" they were queer.

Obviously that's not the case in all or even most situations, but... in some limited cases people really do just "give up" and go with whoever'll take 'em. Especially if they're, let's say... "not entirely conventionally attractive". Or if they have a sh*t personality.

Who knows. As for me, I'm suspicious of anyone who willingly dives face-first into vagina for anything less than True Love. It's one thing when you're married, you kinda have no choice. But I can't imagine looking That Thing in "the eye" every day on purpose. I mean, it ain't a chick's fault, but... well, it's quite a sight if you ever actually stare at it for a while. I mean, I don't recommend doing that. But if you do, you realize God must have a really awful sense of humor. S'all I'm sayin'.

[Sumac]

Queer - is a shortcut for attention seeking straight people to pretend that they are part of LGB, without actually being LGB.

Genuine LGB hate their guts.

[Autbot_Benz]

Disney/Lucasfilm caved to Kennedy they offically announced today that Headland's disney plus show is a go

https://www.starwars.com/news/taika-waititi-announce

[Andrew NDB]

Disney/Lucasfilm caved to Kennedy they offically announced today that Headland's disney plus show is a go

https://www.starwars.com/news/taika-waititi-announce

I'm gonna avoid that like the plague that it is.

[Sumac]

Spineless cowards.

Guess, KK has some dirt on Iger. If rumors are true, after her display of insubordination, she should've been fired, but here we are.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

I've lost interest in all new Star Wars media since the Sequel Trilogy.

No thank you Di$ney

[Jazzfox]

Urrrrrrgh, feels bad I have to say this like a disclaimer from the start, but, yes, overweight lady here who just happens to be married to another lady and yes, both me and Jeri use the word queer.

There's a lot of unpacking here between things, but, believe it or not, it's nothing to do with the staff choices or the fact it's a female-centric Star Wars piece of media that troubles me, it's the alternate timeline part that bothers me most

Star Wars has tons of awesome female characters between all the different iterations of the show, heroes and villains, the idea that they can't make this show in a setting as vast and awesome as Star Wars kind of sells me a bad taste on how they feel about the setting as a whole

As sadly a let down as RoS was, I really feel like there's not a reason to keep mining though, Mandalorian was awesome and Taika was a big part of that success, I've loved any of his movies or other work, so am seriously excited to see what he brings to the table with a new show from his side

On the female-centric show, I guess I know too little on it other than to 'watch this space', but, maybe just temper expectations


On LGBTQ+ issues as a whole, the 'get woke go broke' and such, I think it's easy to see my bias on the subject, lol, what I will say is that queerness is a spectrum in more ways than one

In as much that a lot of folks in the queer alphabet will disagree plenty on important issues, including even whether or not 'queer' is an offensive term or not, some see it being appropriated whilst others have fought tooth and nail to make sure it can't be taken away from us

So yeah, Iunno, my thoughts on the subject are maybe too broad, I'd need to maybe think on specific points to come up with feelings, asides perhaps that generalization is something I worry about when it comes to LGBTQ+ matters that is demonizing anyone who's queer under the banner

(Seriously, gonna hold myself back here, lol, I feel like I wanna rant about Ocean's 8 and HOW. GODDAMN. MUCH. Queerbaiting there was in that movie's promotion and how disappointed I was after watching, but yeah, leave that whilst it's safe to do so <_< )

[turtle1237]

Looking back at this, Disney buying Star Wars was one of the worse things to happen to Star Wars.

[snake]

Who the f*ck cares? I like lightsabers, jedi/sith, and cool aliens. This show is guaranteed to have none of that. On the contrary, it's bound to have tons of poor character design, overuse of the word 'hope', and a human-centric main cast. Oh boy!

[CyberCubed]

Can't wait to see all the gay and transgender characters they'll reveal.

[Sumac]

Can't wait to see it fail to give people in charge another confirmation that wokeness is a toxic locust devouring everything in its pass.

[Candy Kappa]

Just make a show based/inspired about that female twi'lek that's a Jedi and always drawn with a broken back. Make her gay, or bi so it's not too "exotic". And for woke moments you can highlight female twi'lek slave trade.

[TurtleTitan97]

Just make a show based/inspired about that female twi'lek that's a Jedi and always drawn with a broken back.

Aayla Secura? :lol:

But on topic, at the very least I want to hear the premise for this show before deciding whether or not to write it off. The tv shows have had a decent track record so far, even Resistance was starting to turn things around.

[Andrew NDB]

It can be a good, even a great premise and still be rotten on the inside with idealogy.

Ghostbusters 2016? AMAZING premise, and tried and true. Yet...

We need to reward talented creators who push story and characters above anything else, not woke people able to just successfully sneak their ideologies and politics into fiction to help a "movement." We need people who say "I want to tell a really good story" and not "I'm ashamed of white people, males particularly, and I want to help the cause!"

[Autbot_Benz]

All you need to know is Kennedy hand picked her and that's a bad thing

[sdp]

Rumor has it it'll be an Ahsoka Tano show and Hayden will make an appearance as anakin. I'd watch that.

Just make a show based/inspired about that female twi'lek that's a Jedi and always drawn with a broken back. Make her gay, or bi so it's not too "exotic". And for woke moments you can highlight female twi'lek slave trade.

Disney has actually kind of banned twilek's and when used they can't be used as slaves / sex objects even though in the pre-Disney star wars that what their race was defined as. If they got rid of something as iconic as Princess Leia's slave outfit, no way twilek's were going to survive.

[Andrew NDB]

Rumor has it it'll be an Ahsoka Tano show and Hayden will make an appearance as anakin. I'd watch that.

I know this kind of stuff bothers you less... but even if it ends up being all about Anakin giving up his white privalege? Or something along those lines?

Perfectly fine with more Hayden. He deserves some good Star Wars material (a big IF as to if this will end up that) to redeem his "memory." He's not a bad actor at all.

[Sumac]

Disney has actually kind of banned twilek's and when used they can't be used as slaves / sex objects even though in the pre-Disney star wars that what their race was defined as. If they got rid of something as iconic as Princess Leia's slave outfit, no way twilek's were going to survive.
Being so afraid of sexuality...are people in charge suffer from under****ing?

[snake]

Just make a show based/inspired about that female twi'lek that's a Jedi and always drawn with a broken back. Make her gay, or bi so it's not too "exotic". And for woke moments you can highlight female twi'lek slave trade.

Alien tiddy jedi is all I want out of this franchise anymore, so yes.

[TurtleTitan97]

The show is being described as a martial arts thriller: https://www.slashfilm.com/leslye-headland-star-wars-series-details/

[CyberCubed]

Can females really fight?

[Andrew NDB]

So they'll probably cast Jessica Henwick and it'll be a female Mandalorian type. But with martial arts.

[Allio]

Can females really fight?

Just get koichi sakamoto to do the fight scenes

[Leo656]

Can females really fight?

Based on what I've seen in UFC... not really, no. :lol:

[Autbot_Benz]

Can females really fight?

Christ Cyber not sure if your being sarcastic or borderline sexist with that question

https://i.imgur.com/gY2frXS.gif

[Andrew NDB]

Based on what I've seen in UFC... not really, no. :lol:

Look at a Mallory Martin fight. I saw her fight a few months back and wow...

[Leo656]

A few of them are okay. Rousey was alright as long as whoever she was fighting was stupid enough to literally walk right into that armbar. Stuff like that makes me and other people swear UFC is fixed, or at least semi-worked. Holly Holm was okay as long as she kept a good distance away from her opponents.

It's just that - and I don't mean any disrespect by saying this - but there's a certain trepidation among females who compete in full-contact sports that you generally don't see in guys. You see it more in pro wrestling, where everything the women do is oh-so-dainty and delicate and you can tell they're legit scared to get hurt or hurt each other, but you do see it in MMA and "real" fighting as well.

Again, not being a dick, I've known some tough chicks who could definitely beat up most chicks. But by and large women are just more hesitant to really "get in there" than guys are.

And I suppose it makes sense. If a guy gets a tooth knocked out or a visible facial scar, he's just "interesting". If that happens to a woman she's single for life. So it's not entirely fair, but I get it.

[Last Ronin]

Woman should stay in the kitchen and leave the fighting to the big boys.

[turtle1237]

A few of them are okay. Rousey was alright as long as whoever she was fighting was stupid enough to literally walk right into that armbar. Stuff like that makes me and other people swear UFC is fixed, or at least semi-worked. Holly Holm was okay as long as she kept a good distance away from her opponents.

It's just that - and I don't mean any disrespect by saying this - but there's a certain trepidation among females who compete in full-contact sports that you generally don't see in guys. You see it more in pro wrestling, where everything the women do is oh-so-dainty and delicate and you can tell they're legit scared to get hurt or hurt each other, but you do see it in MMA and "real" fighting as well.

Again, not being a dick, I've known some tough chicks who could definitely beat up most chicks. But by and large women are just more hesitant to really "get in there" than guys are.

And I suppose it makes sense. If a guy gets a tooth knocked out or a visible facial scar, he's just "interesting". If that happens to a woman she's single for life. So it's not entirely fair, but I get it.

I was a pretty big fan of Christy Martin back in the 90's.
She was a pretty tough brawler back in the day before age finally caught up to her during the late 90's.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFrd2oIZcjE

[Sumac]

A few of them are okay. Rousey was alright as long as whoever she was fighting was stupid enough to literally walk right into that armbar. Stuff like that makes me and other people swear UFC is fixed, or at least semi-worked. Holly Holm was okay as long as she kept a good distance away from her opponents.
To be honest, at this point, I think, all big sports are fixed to one degree or the other. Especially if we talk about million-dollar fights.

[Leo656]

I confess to not really being a "sports guy", but I agree that it makes sense. When so much money is on the line, it only makes sense to "nudge" things in a favorable direction.

Like I only follow UFC and MMA super-casually, but every now and then when I do bother to watch it I catch guys doing the "grab a chinlock, then lean in close and whisper in the guy's ear" thing... which is a classic pro wrestling move for spot-calling. And sure enough, whenever I see that in UFC, like two seconds later there's a big dramatic takedown or something. It just makes you wonder.

Lots of people don't know this, but by all accounts, professional wrestling was pretty legit back in the late-1800s. Guys simply took exhibition fights for money in the non-Olympic years as a way to make a living as a side hustle. Then, someone got the bright idea that "Wait a minute... do we NEED to legit beat each other up, or can we, y'know, just make it LOOK like we are, if the money's the same anyway?" Since that was already going on in the carnivals and such in front of small crowds. Then they realized that if you're not really beating the sh*t out of each other, you can fight more often, and in turn make more money, and then voila, "pro wrestling" as we know it was born. And to be honest, it was honestly pretty brilliant of an idea. "I can fight twice a year, make X amount of money, get the dogsh*t kicked out of me and spend the next few months recovering... OR, we can just play-fight, make the same amount of money BUT we can do it once a month and increase profits exponentially."

Sports (and especially fights) being fixed simply makes good sense. There's no logic at all in getting beat up for real. "Oh, I can prove I'm a big tough guy." Big deal! Brain damaged by 30, flat-broke by 40 with no real-world applicable skills. How very admirable. :lol: It says a lot about anybody whose entire life goal is "To get hit in the face and in turn hit others in the face, for money." Pretty sure every single one of them had a drunken Dad who smacked them around and now their whole life is symbolic revenge. Otherwise it doesn't really make any sense.

F*ck that. All my teeth are chipped or cracked AND my neck is shot. All from "fake" fighting. I already know I have a big dick, I don't need to do the "real" stuff to prove it. :lol:

[Roseangelo]

Can females really fight?

Let me know when you want to spar, male.

[Leo656]

I actually put $500 on Rose in this one. :lol:

First round KO, probably around 37 seconds.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Well. according to the deadline hollywood article, this 'female-led' series is set in an alternate timeline of Star Wars from the Mandalorian. So apparently, yes, star wars in officially a multiverse now. Meaning thesequel trilogy is just one of many possible futures.

I really, really hope this series leads in to the sequel trilogy, and the Mandalorian leads into a diffrent-and better- future.

[TurtleTitan97]

Well. according to the deadline hollywood article, this 'female-led' series is set in an alternate timeline of Star Wars from the Mandalorian. So apparently, yes, star wars in officially a multiverse now. Meaning thesequel trilogy is just one of many possible futures.

I really, really hope this series leads in to the sequel trilogy, and the Mandalorian leads into a diffrent-and better- future.

Somehow I highly doubt this means they'll declare the sequel trilogy non canon.

And I think Deadline is the only one saying it's in an alternate timeline. Other sites are reporting it's just taking place in a different time period.

[TurtleTitan97]

Well Panda_Kahn_fan is definitely going to be disappointed by this. :lol:

Leslye Headland brings a new @StarWars series to @DisneyPlus with The Acolyte. “The Acolyte” is a mystery-thriller that will take viewers into a galaxy of shadowy secrets and emerging dark-side powers in the final days of the High Republic era.

https://twitter.com/Disney/status/1337176133352247296

Hate to say I told you so, but....

[NinjaPug]

Well Panda_Kahn_fan is definitely going to be disappointed by this. :lol:



https://twitter.com/Disney/status/1337176133352247296

Hate to say I told you so, but....

Finally something set in a new period. This show sounds pretty intriguing - a martial arts show about a Sith acolyte.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Yeah, it is disappointing, I was going by the article, oh well....:ohwell:

Still, it does seem odd that ALL of these projects center around the time periods of the first two trilogies. The Disney sequel trilogy gets an animated series by Filloni that didn't last long, and a lego christmas special that crossed over with the other two eras.... and that's it. :lol:

Well, except for the Rouge One movie... ugh, forget I even said anything.

[Andrew NDB]

Amandla Stenberg to star as the lead:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/stenberg-to-lead-star-wars-the-acolyte/

https://c.tenor.com/uOZfrHJwc7AAAAAM/yes-check.gif

[Sumac]

Can they make new heroine even worse than Rey?

[Andrew NDB]

Jodie Turner Smith cast:

https://deadline.com/2022/09/the-acolyte-jodie-turner-smithcast-star-wars-series-disney-plus-1235109427/

[Coola Yagami]

Wow, they are REALLY doubling-down on ruining Star Wars, aren't they? How are there still any fans left at this point? The show isn't for fans anymore, it's just for the woke virtue signalers.

[Andrew NDB]

I really don't want to be the guy that says "they're casting a lot of black chicks so it must be woke!" but... I'm guessing this is just the tip of the spear. We already knew this show was in particular Kathleen Kennedy's baby.

So Mandalorian is led by a Hispanic guy, Boba Fett led by an Islander guy, Andor led by a Hispanic guy, Ahsoka led by a Hispanic woman... and two shows led by black chicks? Is one to cancel out the white guy show (Obi-Wan) and then one-up it (moreso if their plans for the Lando show rev up again)? That's probably exactly the sentiment. This is misrepresentation.

Come to think of it, is there even a single Star Wars project in development starring a white guy or even a white chick?

[Andrew NDB]

The "main male role" has been given to the Squid Game guy:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/squid-games-lee-sets-big-star-wars-role/

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/fNe1hp8.jpg

[Leo656]

Holy sh*t, Dafne Keen is still around? That's neat. Remember after "Logan" came out and everybody swore she was gonna be a huge star, and that they'd "for sure" have an X-23 movie out within a year or two because how could they not? Haven't heard a peep about her since. Seems like 100 years ago now. I'm aware she's been working but this is the first time I've seen her name attached to anything anyone would've seen.

[Andrew NDB]

Lots of press that Daphne Keen is playing a "bi-species" charavter in "The Acolyte." And "as a queer filmmaker, yes there will be camp."

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/star-wars/logan-star-dafne-keen-reveals-new-details-about-her-bi-species-jedi-in-star-wars-the-acolyte-a203226

[Sumac]

Lots of press that Daphne Keen is playing a "bi-species" charavter in "The Acolyte." And "as a queer filmmaker, yes there will be camp."

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/star-wars/logan-star-dafne-keen-reveals-new-details-about-her-bi-species-jedi-in-star-wars-the-acolyte-a203226
How I miss the times, when director was just aimed to do a good ****ing movie, as opposed to highlighting who and how they ****. But I guess, if you are **** director and have nothing else to highlight, your sex life becomes the only thing that is important about you.
I pity those ****ers.

[Coola Yagami]

Ironic how Daphne looks more like the actual X23 NOW than the one we got in the movie. I don't think we ever saw her that young in the comics or cartoons (she was first introduced in X-Men Evolution I believe). A teen yes, but not a kid.

It's years apart, but that NotBoP movie did the same crap by having Cassandra be a kid.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/star-was-the-acolyte-has-a-ton-of-jedi/

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“We are looking at a time period where the Jedi are at the height of their power, we’re looking at a time period where there is peace throughout the galaxy, and it was very challenging and interesting to make a Star Wars with no war in it.

Though, the question became, ‘Well, what should the show be about if it’s not going to be about galactic conflict?’ And I think that what makes this show different and interesting is that it’s from the perspective of the bad guys or the villains of Star Wars.

These are people who are using the Force in their own way, dipping into the darker side of the Force, and are doing it without being sanctioned by the larger institution, which in this case is the Jedi. And I think that Star Wars is always about some version of the underdog vs. the institution.”

She also confirms the show isn’t being shy with the Jedi either, and in fact, will involve more Jedi than you’ve seen in other “Star Wars” content:

“I just thought it was very interesting to do a show about the bad guys, and to set that during that time period made the most sense. So I think that’s what sets it apart. It’s kind of almost flipped. We have more Jedi than you’ve seen in any other of the Star Wars content.

But at the same time, I think you see more morally ambiguous characters than you’ve seen in other Star Wars content. And I think I can say this pretty confidently: I don’t think you’re going to see action in other shows the way that you see it used and utilized in our show.”

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So... a show focused and from the POV of some oppressed people (which will largely be female-led and very diverse, as we know) who are seen as "the bad guys" by larger society by doing things that most people see as morally wrong, are going against "the institution." Sound like a fantasy fulfillment from a certain group of people to anybody else? I'm telling you guys, this is the Kathleen Kennedy magnum opus for Star Wars. It's the reason she created and pushed the "High Republic."

Also, I thought for sure Brie Larson was going to end up being in this. Just you wait, though.

[Andrew NDB]

So Brie Larson WILL be in it!

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Then might get frozen in bacta and woken up in the new Rey movie? This can't be real, right?

[Autbot_Benz]

So Brie Larson WILL be in it!

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Then might get frozen in bacta and woken up in the new Rey movie? This can't be real, right?

It's not true

https://i.imgur.com/ZZVDYIf.gif

[Sabacooza]

The Rey movie isn't happening. Neither is the Acolyte. Call it a hunch.

[Andrew NDB]

The Rey movie isn't happening. Neither is the Acolyte. Call it a hunch.

I think the writers and actors strike will buy enough time for the right people to stop it all. Kathleen Kennedy wanted to push it out the door quickly but now she won't be able to... and now she's in the wake of Indy 5 costing them millions, all due to her decisions and meddling.

[Sumac]

I think the writers and actors strike will buy enough time for the right people to stop it all. Kathleen Kennedy wanted to push it out the door quickly but now she won't be able to... and now she's in the wake of Indy 5 costing them millions, all due to her decisions and meddling.
Sadly expecting her to go down is unrealistic at this point.
Disney gonna dug up Walt's grave faster than fire a useless agenda-driven idiot.

[Andrew NDB]

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[IMJ]

Cool - I hope they pour a mountain of money into...

[Autbot_Benz]

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[sdp]

how many female star wars projects are there? K.Keneddy is out of her mind, no way the metrics justify all of them. I love female heroes but this is tiring, they still haven't done one female hero that is well done, Ashoka being the closest but her being an alien means she'll never be accepted by mainstream audiences.

And who asked for this project? It's so bland and uninspiring. Even if the main character was male, it just looks so tired and a rehash. It's such a bankrupt idea.How does something like this even get greenlit over any other project in the vast star wars universe, I don't even care if the main character were still female as long as it felt fresh. Disney clearly doesn't know what star wars should be.Granted this was greenlit before Iger started to put a closer attention into projects so perhaps we should start judging star wars direction on projects greenlit after that. However this shows they learned absolutely nothing from the failure of the sequel trilogy or the success of the first two seasons of the Mandalorian.

[CyberCubed]

Show looks exactly the same as all the other D+ Star Wars shows. Meaning it'll be mostly mediocre with the occasional good episode or scene.

[Andrew NDB]

This is the big one, guys. Everything Kathleen Kennedy has done so far has been ramping up to this show. It NEEDS to fail, and spectacularly.

And how you just know not-so-baby-Yoda will be a to be revealed part of the new Rey movie, you can bet they're waiting to reveal slightly younger Yoda himself for this. Don't buy into it. These are not people that care about Star Wars, only what it can do for their agenda.

[The Deadman]

If it's true that this movie is horror centric then I am all in.

[Andrew NDB]

If it's true that this movie is horror centric then I am all in.

It's "queer centric" (their words). And it isn't a movie.

[Autbot_Benz]

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[neatoman]

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Saw a trailer for this at the end of a showing of Phantom Menace yesterday, not sure if it was this one though. Did not expect that.

... Did Disney seriously re-release Phantom Menace in theatres just to promote this show? Phantom Menace, you know, the movie that was largely considered the worst Star Wars movie before Disney took over the franchise and ran it into the ground? Geez, that's sad, when the nostalgia for Phantom Menace is stronger than hype for the new material...

[Anarchistguy]

Saw a trailer for this at the end of a showing of Phantom Menace yesterday, not sure if it was this one though. Did not expect that.

... Did Disney seriously re-release Phantom Menace in theatres just to promote this show? Phantom Menace, you know, the movie that was largely considered the worst Star Wars movie before Disney took over the franchise and ran it into the ground? Geez, that's sad, when the nostalgia for Phantom Menace is stronger than hype for the new material...

That reminds me of other franchises where there were characters or moments were considered low points but people found a new way to sink lower.

For example:

- Scrappy Doo was considered the worst part of the Scooby-Doo franchise until the Velma show came along

- "Slimer And The Real Ghostbusters" was considered the worst part of the Ghostbusters franchise until the 2016 movie came along.

[Andrew NDB]

... Did Disney seriously re-release Phantom Menace in theatres just to promote this show?

For sure. And you can see the social media "influencer" machine at work with this show. Every day it's viral posts being shared about "Look, the show has a Dathomiran!" "Look, the show has this!" "Look, the show has that!"

It's really flabbergasting, too, how literally not one thing they're throwing out there about the show is about the story.

[Autbot_Benz]

Kathleen Kennedy says “I think a lot of the women who step into Star Wars struggle with [toxic fandom attacks] a bit more.”

“Because of the fan base being so male dominated, they sometimes get attacked in ways that can be quite personal… Operating within these giant franchises now, with social media and the level of expectation — it’s terrifying”

(Source: https://nytimes.com/2024/05/29/arts/television/leslye-headland-the-acolyte.html)


KK is at it again

[Sabacooza]

She's like a turd that won't flush.

[Andrew NDB]

It's really remarkable. Has Bob Iger not had "the talk" with her yet? Because she should have been the first person on his list.

[oldmanwinters]

She's like a turd that won't flush.

I recommend more fiber in that diet.

[Andrew NDB]

So... the first two episodes might be OK, then the third episode "kills Star Wars." lol..

https://cosmicbook.news/acolyte-reaction-horrible-kills-star-wars?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR11jUtgpsBF3xwXPg47 vRkRFZsNy9xh1jZ7auKiKgiygZd1zh8RbXsRT6g_aem_AcBDoz RtBRg0fo6AJzr-jtJ0RaNE0kpKtNN1K71HEkgNcHnm7cCr2sryA9Ap3jMk5S4Dnt mSjbrilGfL_yluYSwr

Oh, and pronouns. Of course.

[oldmanwinters]

I don't understand this article about the show retcon-ing Luke & Leia as the "first twins" of the franchise:
https://cosmicbook.news/star-wars-acolyte-luke-leia-non-binary-villain-explained

Has anyone ever claimed the Skywalkers were the first known set of twins in that galaxy?

[Andrew NDB]

I don't understand this article about the show retcon-ing Luke & Leia as the "first twins" of the franchise:
https://cosmicbook.news/star-wars-acolyte-luke-leia-non-binary-villain-explained

Has anyone ever claimed the Skywalkers were the first known set of twins in that galaxy?

I think Matt is just being snarky about the villain being a "They." Which is understandable on the count of that being a really, really stupid thing.

[Autbot_Benz]

I know nobody on here watched this garbage. But the showrunner brought up Benign Sexism :roll:

Explaining that Sol's desire to protect Osha stems from "benign sexism," Headland elaborates on that point by saying, "Ultimately, what happens is — again, this is a father-daughter relationship — as women evolve in their lives and develop their own personalities separate from their fathers, at some point, they have to reject that protectionism."

"When he says, 'I did everything because I love-' He's going to say, 'I love you,' and not only is that a level of attachment that an unbalanced Jedi would have — he very clearly is losing it in the last half of the season — but that's also the justification for that kind of behavior between the father and the daughter."

"The daughter has to surpass him in some way," she continues. "She cannot stay a little girl or an adolescent or young adult. She has to, at some point, say, 'I reject what you have told me I need to do to make you proud, to follow in your footsteps.' She has to do that."

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/star-wars/the-acolyte-showrunner-talks-spoilers-death-how-it-stems-from-benign-sexism-and-big-lightsaber-scene-a212200#gs.bwb8bu

[Andrew NDB]

It's over. Cancelled.

https://deadline.com/2024/08/the-acolyte-canceled-no-season-2-star-wars-disney-plus-1236044233/?fbclid=IwY2xjawEwvOVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHbP2nmnK-73xqjpEF3F_R1DD8uTpdgUH6NhBIUWcLxyPHa0j5Qn48fWshQ_ aem__ltntKkA5Ry3VRK_eqW3aQ

[neatoman]

It's over. Cancelled.

https://deadline.com/2024/08/the-acolyte-canceled-no-season-2-star-wars-disney-plus-1236044233/?fbclid=IwY2xjawEwvOVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHbP2nmnK-73xqjpEF3F_R1DD8uTpdgUH6NhBIUWcLxyPHa0j5Qn48fWshQ_ aem__ltntKkA5Ry3VRK_eqW3aQ

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[Autbot_Benz]

It's over. Cancelled.

https://deadline.com/2024/08/the-acolyte-canceled-no-season-2-star-wars-disney-plus-1236044233/?fbclid=IwY2xjawEwvOVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHbP2nmnK-73xqjpEF3F_R1DD8uTpdgUH6NhBIUWcLxyPHa0j5Qn48fWshQ_ aem__ltntKkA5Ry3VRK_eqW3aQ

Wonderful News. has anyone checked on KK :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

You know it had to be bad, too. It's been years and we haven't even gotten a Boba Fett season 2, but it has never been cancelled. The Acolyte gets cancelled right out of the gate, lol

[Autbot_Benz]

watching all the die hard Acolyte fans upset over this is giving me strength :lol:

They alienated real star wars fans with this show what did they expect to happen.

[Andrew NDB]

watching all the die hard Acolyte fans upset over this is giving me strength :lol:

They alienated real star wars fans with this show what did they expect to happen.

It's a much bigger win than that. This show represented the magnum opus of Kathleen Kennedy. Everything she's done with forcing out the "High Republic" publishing initiative, all of that all culminated with this show. And it fell flat on its face, widely and publicly.

[Autbot_Benz]

It's a much bigger win than that. This show represented the magnum opus of Kathleen Kennedy. Everything she's done with forcing out the "High Republic" publishing initiative, all of that all culminated with this show. And it fell flat on its face, widely and publicly.

now the question is how much more crap Star Wars before Iger finally fires Kennedy

[CyberCubed]

now the question is how much more crap Star Wars before Iger finally fires Kennedy

Ahsoka Season 2 is happening. Skeleton Crew will probably be 1 and done. Andor has a Season 2 but we know that's the last season. Mandalorian is over since Season 4 was changed into a movie.

So star wars TV shows are pretty much done. Ahsoka Season 2 will likely setup the Thrawn movie they have planned.

[Andrew NDB]

Ahsoka Season 2 is happening. Skeleton Crew will probably be 1 and done. Andor has a Season 2 but we know that's the last season. Mandalorian is over since Season 4 was changed into a movie.

So star wars TV shows are pretty much done. Ahsoka Season 2 will likely setup the Thrawn movie they have planned.

We're seeing the creation of the Star Wars cinematic universe. Both Mandalorian & Grogu and Ahsoka season 2 will dive head-first into "the Thrawn thing." Which may encompass even more movies. They'll probably go right back to Mandalorian season 4 (which we know is already written and is not the story of Mandalorian & Grogu) and Ahsoka season 3 afterward, and hopefully eventually a Boba Fett redemption. Beyond that, big Star Wars movies going on in the background every couple of years, simultaneous with the TV shows but showing us the "big" events and CGIed Luke, Leia and Han and so on... I guess we could do a lot worse than that.

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/GC2stZp/456456770-10235379739576489-6280568415075915256-n.jpg

[Autbot_Benz]

low viewership that got Acolyte canned

"Insiders explain that The Acolyte was canceled because viewership was bad, and that there’s really nothing more to it than that even though at least one cast member said they were surprised by the decision. I’m told that The Acolyte’s viewership collapsed following the first two episodes, whereas with Andor, viewership steadily climbed throughout the season, so the show was renewed for Season 2. Andor also drew exceptional reviews, whereas The Acolyte’s reviews were more mixed.

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/star-wars/the-acolyte-new-details-on-why-series-was-cancelled-revealed-along-with-a-list-actor-who-almost-played-sol-a212809#gs.dj49e7

[CyberCubed]

I watched it all on the illegal streaming websites and I imagine many did the same, so all that "viewership/ratings" is lost when Disney+ doesn't get that. It's kind of funny because I imagine all these streaming shows actually have double or triple times the ratings they should of, it's just that many people are watching them for free illegally so the ratings seem lower than they would be.

[neatoman]

low viewership that got Acolyte canned



https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/star-wars/the-acolyte-new-details-on-why-series-was-cancelled-revealed-along-with-a-list-actor-who-almost-played-sol-a212809#gs.dj49e7

But how low is "low"? I kind of want to know more concretely so we have a baseline for what Disney considers a failure. Keep in mind here, they are not trying to pretend this was always meant to be a mini-series or something to keep face, this was apparently so bad that they didn't even bother hiding their failure and just flat-out admitted they cancelled it. I want to know how bad the viewership had to be for this to happen.

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder if the show really will get memory holed like Willow on Disney+? That would be poetic justice.

[neatoman]

So what are the odds of this show actually getting stricken from canon? If cluttering up the continuity was considered a problem for "creative freedom" back in 2014, wouldn't there eventually be a need for another canonicity purge?

[sdp]

The filoni cinematic universe is not a hypothetical, they literally announced i movie as the culmination "End Game" to the Star wars shows. Disney also basically said they were getting rid of all their shows since they wanted to focus on movies, which is why moana the tv show became a movie, mandalorian S4 became a movie and why they're cancelling most Marvel and star wars shows.
Boba Fett's show left a bad taste in disney's eye so apparently he's not getting anything new or even appearing in new projects. I'm guessing Ashoka S2 was just too far along but will likely be the end of that show. Andor is already ending in S2 and acolites cancelled.
It'd be neat if there were actual shows to help build up that that final movie but instead htey cancelled everything :lol:

I think we might still get another show or two before the filoni "End Game" movie comes out but i think a lot depends on the Mandalorian movie. If it's a huge success then we might get another movie or two in the universe if it underperforms then we might just try to set up the "end game" movie with a show.

who knows how the mandalorian movie will really do, the show had a huge following a while back but it seems viewership and interst waned after season 2 as boba fett/ashoka/s3 got less viewers. So perhaps it was more of a pandemic bump the shows had. It'll also be difficult to make an engaging movie that basicaly has to explain the whole lore to new audiences who haven't watched any of the shows while keeping the ones who did watch them interested as well. But who knows perhaps baby yoda being in a movie will get casuals who never watched the show to check it out to see what the fuzz is all about. It's been more than half a decade since the last star wars movie came out so interst in a new movie might be there.

[CyberCubed]

I do think the casual interest in "baby Yoda" has subsided. This isn't 2-3 years ago. I do wonder if the Mandalorian movie will do well, and season 3 was also the weakest season of the show. It honestly feels like the movie should have come out a few years ago when there was still hype/meme interest for "baby Yoda."

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/the-acolyte-star-not-shocked-by-axing/?fbclid=IwY2xjawE80yxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHf72muGLW73i 7Owrl_7aub4WdtbZ30QHFlGmxYf4FbSb8iA-FwdpRkc_fA_aem_69nE3jeCfvVpMBpmPCiPkQ

The main actress, doubling down:

“I’m going to be transparent and say it’s not a huge shock for me. There has been a rampage of vitriol that we have faced since the show was even announced… a rampage of, I would say, hyper-conservative bigotry and vitriol, prejudice, hatred and hateful language towards us.

This really affected me when I first got the job. Because it’s just not something – even though I anticipated it happening – it’s not something you can fully understand what it feels like until it’s happening to you. However, I feel like I’ve kind of moved through those feelings in various ways, including being vocal about it myself.

…It just became inarguable for me, at a certain point, that in order to continue to be myself, I would have to honor my value system by being vocal even in the context of working for Disney.

It has been an incredible honor and dream for me to be in this universe. Of course, I’m very sad about the show being canceled.… I just want to let those people know out there who supported us in that way, and supported us vocally – despite and in the face of all of the vitriol that we received and the kind of the targeted attack, I would say, we received by the alt-right – just that you were deeply loved and appreciated. And it made this job all the worthwhile for me.”

[Leofan26]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/the-acolyte-star-not-shocked-by-axing/?fbclid=IwY2xjawE80yxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHf72muGLW73i 7Owrl_7aub4WdtbZ30QHFlGmxYf4FbSb8iA-FwdpRkc_fA_aem_69nE3jeCfvVpMBpmPCiPkQ

The main actress, doubling down:

“I’m going to be transparent and say it’s not a huge shock for me. There has been a rampage of vitriol that we have faced since the show was even announced… a rampage of, I would say, hyper-conservative bigotry and vitriol, prejudice, hatred and hateful language towards us.

This really affected me when I first got the job. Because it’s just not something – even though I anticipated it happening – it’s not something you can fully understand what it feels like until it’s happening to you. However, I feel like I’ve kind of moved through those feelings in various ways, including being vocal about it myself.

…It just became inarguable for me, at a certain point, that in order to continue to be myself, I would have to honor my value system by being vocal even in the context of working for Disney.

It has been an incredible honor and dream for me to be in this universe. Of course, I’m very sad about the show being canceled.… I just want to let those people know out there who supported us in that way, and supported us vocally – despite and in the face of all of the vitriol that we received and the kind of the targeted attack, I would say, we received by the alt-right – just that you were deeply loved and appreciated. And it made this job all the worthwhile for me.”

So what? You can’t do something like this without receiving threats from today’s new generation alt right party? This poor woman, she was so excited to work on this project too. Stop doing this crap you guys! Let people do what they want as you would too! This is getting frusterating! And if a certain someone does win the elections you going send death threats to her too for being a black woman running a country? The horror ?

[Andrew NDB]

So what? You can’t do something like this without receiving threats from today’s new generation alt right party?

Oh, please. Boo hoo. Welcome to being an actor or actress or celebrity since forever, in anything since the internet. This isn't some kind of a partisan thing though people like you would love it to be. And I'd love to see these supposed "death threats." If they were credible ones we'd be hearing about arrests but they never are. It's most likely what it always is, which is people with names like "DarthShiek666" on Instagram sending some stupid insults to her and her wanting to get some extra victimhood publicity.

And if a certain someone does win the elections you going send death threats to her too for being a black woman running a country? The horror ?

You people are genuinely insane.

[ZariusTwo]

And if a certain someone does win the elections you going send death threats to her too for being a black woman running a country? The horror ?

As someone who's endured three female Prime Ministers, each one more disastrous for my country than the last, you're in for a treat with Hyena Harris.

[CyberCubed]

I wonder overall if this will cause Disney to move away from the "High Republic" era in general. Weren't they making a big deal about finally focusing on stories set hundreds of years before Luke or Anakin were born? It seemed like they had this whole thing planned of "High Republic" stories set during the height of the Jedi. I wonder if that's all done now outside of comics since this show killed the interest.

[Bahamut810]

I wonder overall if this will cause Disney to move away from the "High Republic" era in general. Weren't they making a big deal about finally focusing on stories set hundreds of years before Luke or Anakin were born? It seemed like they had this whole thing planned of "High Republic" stories set during the height of the Jedi. I wonder if that's all done now outside of comics since this show killed the interest.

If they do abandon the High Republic it will come back in a decade after Kathleen Kennedy leaves. Even I like the idea and setting of HR, but Kennedy's run has just been a ****-show. From what I have heard she is wanting to get one big success before she steps down. So...I hope she makes something not crap?

[Andrew NDB]

If they do abandon the High Republic it will come back in a decade after Kathleen Kennedy leaves. Even I like the idea and setting of HR, but Kennedy's run has just been a ****-show. From what I have heard she is wanting to get one big success before she steps down. So...I hope she makes something not crap?

Why would it come back? She is the only one breathing life into it. Despite the books and comics not selling.

[Bahamut810]

Why would it come back? She is the only one breathing life into it. Despite the books and comics not selling.

I would at least hope so once she is well away with it and her failure is long past. Its a good idea for a setting with a solid Good vs Evil narrative (regardless of what Kennedy might want to make it into).

[Andrew NDB]

I would at least hope so once she is well away with it and her failure is long past. Its a good idea for a setting with a solid Good vs Evil narrative (regardless of what Kennedy might want to make it into).

What Kennedy might want to make it into? The High Republic is her idea, her baby. The soil she cultivated to one day grow the Acolyte out of, as a Phase 1. She even awkwardly forced High Republic stuff into the last Fallen Order game.

[Bahamut810]

What Kennedy might want to make it into? The High Republic is her idea, her baby. The soil she cultivated to one day grow the Acolyte out of, as a Phase 1. She even awkwardly forced High Republic stuff into the last Fallen Order game.

High republic has always been there since Obi-wan talked about light sabers being "the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age". I agree not the "High Republic" as we know it now but the idea of an idealized society 'ran' by Jedi.

[Andrew NDB]

The star of the Acolyte continuing to double down that it's the fault of racists and bigots that's the reason it was cancelled. Because -- did you know -- there's such a thing as "negative ratings"? Like, just by sheer force of will, people on the "Far Right" can concentrate hard enough and the activist/leftists types will actively not tune into the show, costing it ratings. Like a superpower.

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