Sonic Movie Sequel is in the works

[TigerClaw]

According to Variety a sequel to the Sonic Movie is in the works at Paramount. This is great news since I been waiting for this for some time.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-sequel-1234619356/

[The Deadman]

What are the odds of having someone talk about how the film is going to be bad during the entire existence of said film's production?

[Wildcat]

Was my most wanted movie...now my most wanted sequel. Not a surprise but glad to see it confirmed.

I just saw it again the other day when my Blu-ray came in. It’s better a second time. I think I was too excited before. It seemed to fly by.

Tails is confirmed and probably safe to assume Knuckles. Robotnik must meet someone along the way.

Biggest thing I want is Super Sonic. Show the special zone on his map. Some have suggested they might need to rework the chaos emeralds since requiring 7 could be complicated in a movie. Perfectly fine.

[Leo656]

I mean, if they were smart they could do a whole trilogy about collecting all seven Chaos Emeralds. That's what I'd do. Maybe they could combine elements of Sonic CD and Sonic Adventure, and make one or two of the Emeralds really hard to get, to the point where he has to travel through time to get them. They could do a whole movie about that sh*t by itself. If you have one main plotline - the Seven Emeralds - and you plan it out properly, you can incorporate elements from a bunch of different sources and get three solid movies worth of material, easily. You can get a bunch of different characters and elements in there while keeping everything geared in line with one main "basic" story. Chaos would make a great villain for that kind of arc, if you think about it. They could easily do a "remixed" version of Sonic Adventure over three movies if they did it right. That'd be awesome. Screw it, they already got Sonic messing around with humans, might as well lean into the game that got the most out of that, and also had the best villain of the 3D Sonic games.

See, they should let me book this sh*t. That's what I'd do. I don't chirp about it but I know my Sonic horseshit. :trazz:

[Wildcat]

Ya that sounds pretty cool. The emeralds themselves already have the ability to time travel don’t they? I feel like that should be one of the reasons Robotnik wants them. Unless they say you don’t need all of them and certain colored ones can give certain abilities.

I was thinking something like the special zone, being a mysterious void, required special access before a ring could take you there. A place that required moving fast or it would zap you out. It could be a mix of the tilting grid, half pipe and spheres.

Like its accessible to anyone who knows the secret to opening it but everyone who’s tried has failed to defeat its obstacles. Obviously Sonic would be the one going in. That’s still only 3.

I’ll have to think it over some more.

[ZariusTwo]

See, they should let me book this sh*t. That's what I'd do. I don't chirp about it but I know my Sonic horseshit. :trazz:

Hogwash. Sonic Hogwash:)

[drgon78]

Finally some good news.

[Papenbrook]

Great.

I wonder if this one will have the same production issues as the first movie.

[Leo656]

Hogwash. Sonic Hogwash:)

That doesn't flout the shittiness of the chickenshit swear filter.

I'm goin' for BINGO! :lol::lol::lol:

[The Deadman]

Great.

I wonder if this one will have the same production issues as the first movie.

And it's begun

[oldmanwinters]

Maybe Robotnik can build himself an Eggfinity Gauntlet.

[TurtleTitan97]

Hope the next movie has higher stakes than the first one. And hopefully spend less time on Earth.

[IMJ]

Hope the next movie has higher stakes than the first one. And hopefully spend less time on Earth.

The first one was much better than I thought it could have been, but these are two pretty valid opportunities, I'd say.

[TigerClaw]

Hopefully the sequel deals with the Chaos Emeralds. They are like the Infinity Stones in the Sonic universe. Also Knuckles is the sole guardian of the Master Emerald on Angel Island.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Hopefully the sequel deals with the Chaos Emeralds. They are like the Infinity Stones in the Sonic universe. Also Knuckles is the sole guardian of the Master Emerald on Angel Island.

And Sonic is blue.

[snake]

As long as they don't go completely overboard and keep the more fantastical elements somewhat grounded in reality, I'm all for it. I think a big part of the success of the Sonic movie was that it downplayed the inherent ridiculousness of the franchise extremely well.

I think you'll start losing people when you introduce characters like Shadow and Silver, or tack on things that aren't justified/explained well enough in-universe. Basically, good writing, which is a tall order for the majority of movies these days.

[Papenbrook]

It's currently scheduled to arrive on *April 8th, 2022. (https://variety.com/2020/film/box-office/a-quiet-place-2-top-gun-maverick-release-date-delay-1234709716/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)

*It'll probably be subject(ed) to change, though.

[sdp]

As long as they don't go completely overboard and keep the more fantastical elements somewhat grounded in reality, I'm all for it.

They realize this, which is why it wasn't an animated movie and instead live action and taking place on Earth. Sequel will likely have Tails as a main character along Sonic and I'm sure we'll see more of Sonic's world but only briefly since the movie will take place mostly on Earth. Now I'm sure if they keep making movies by Movie 4 we will see Shadow and others and it'll be aimed mainly at little kids by then so who cares.

[Papenbrook]

Two updates:

Storyboard artist, Fill Marc, has announced that he will be storyboarding the sequel. (https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/12/tyson-hesse-and-fill-marc-to-work-on-sonic-movie-sequel/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)

Knuckles may be set to appear in said sequel. (https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2020/12/22/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-start/)

[Papenbrook]

I don't know.

Either way, I think that the sequel will bomb.

[sdp]

You though that as well for the first and I thought it'd be a huge hit as big as Detective Pikachu and I was right. This is despite getting the inferior Sonic re-design instead of the furrealtic original design ;p

[Papenbrook]

Ah, but this time I think that it will actually flop.

Sequels usually aren't as successful as their predecessors.

[DarkFell]

I think you'll start losing people when you introduce characters like Shadow and Silver, or tack on things that aren't justified/explained well enough in-universe.
That makes sense.

I'm okay with Shadow and The Chaotix. I don't know much about Blaze, Big the Cat, Fang the Sniper, Honey the Cat, Rouge the Bat, Sticks the Cat, Amy Rose, or Silver. However, I'll be just fine if none of them show up in the sequel.

Metal Sonic would be a neat idea if the movie needs another adversary in case Knuckles doesn't get duped by Robotnik.

[Wildcat]

Knuckles was a given with how the first started and ended. We basically know what he’ll look like too.

Metal Sonic seems more likely in a potential third movie (I don’t wanna assume but I hope it gets 3). Part 2 seems like it’ll focus on Sonic/Tails vs Robotnik/Knuckles until he finds out he’s the bad guy.

We might see the Master Emerald since Knuckles is supposed to guard it. Maybe that’s why it appears on the map. To indicate it’s related to one the locations. Of course Sonic does not know yet and thinks Mushroom Hill is a wasteland.

[Shark_Blade]

I reckon it’s gonna be a mix of live action setting and cgi. I have faith in the team. Ah, but this time I think that it will actually flop.

Sequels usually aren't as successful as their predecessors.

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, Terminator 2, Home Alone 2, Shrek 2, Toy Story 2, Deadpool 2, The Dark Knight.

You’re always so negative, pessimistic and don’t know what you’re talking about so whatever.

[Leo656]

I do think that by now there's been enough Good Sequels to the point where we can retire the "sequels by default are generally bad/unsuccessful" trope. Sure.

But it just as well can go either way. The ones that shine are still generally Good Movies in and of themselves; the ones that fail or underperform generally aren't. And then you still have things like Transformers 2 which made a ton of money despite being absolutely godawful. Like I actually didn't hate the first Transformers movie but the second one is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. As was the third one. And the fourth one. Same thing with the "Saw" franchise. They all made a ton of money, but... Jesus.

So yeah, I just think it's impossible to predict these things either way until the movie itself exists. There's been enough Good Sequels and Bad Sequels and "Sequels That Were Bad But Still Made Money" to the point where it can be safely stated that there really isn't any formula by which these things can be predicted in advance.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Ah, but this time I think that it will actually flop.

Sequels usually aren't as successful as their predecessors.


Spider-Man 2, Terminator 2, and the Avengers movies say hi.

[Leo656]

Young Guns II made a hair less than its predecessor - and was less profitable overall because its budget was twice as high as the first's - and yet, it remains the greatest sequel film ever made.

Facts.

[Coola Yagami]

Only thing is, at least in tone, you shouldn't have part 1 take place in the real world and part 2 be a CGI fest. At the very least we need the cop guy to tag along or something. I know everyone is itching to have a Sonic movie more like the games but the first movie was endearing and should not just be forgotten.

[Wildcat]

It won’t forget earth. Tom and Maddie are important to Sonic and Robotnik wants to come back.

I think they’ll include one or two new game locations. Besides what we saw in part one. They’ll probably use an earth location that sort of doubles as a game one. Like San Francisco was basically City Escape.

Sonic world locations will depend on the storyline and where they’d need to travel.

[Andrew NDB]

Spider-Man 2, Terminator 2, and the Avengers movies say hi.

Godfather II. The Color of Money. Aliens. Road Warrior. Before Sunset. Desperado. Spider-Man 2. Dawn of the Dead. Star Trek II. Blade 2.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Those were just the first three that came to mind. But, yeah, those too.

[Papenbrook]

The only reason that the film made bank was because of the design change.

The film's borderline mediocre otherwise.

[ZariusTwo]

The only reason that the film made bank was because of the design change.

The film's borderline mediocre otherwise.

Nope, watched it with the family yet again today as our afternoon christmas flick and had a blast with it.

[sdp]

The only reason that the film made bank was because of the design change.

The film's borderline mediocre otherwise.

I agree the movie would've bombed with the original design despite being the same God dsmn movie. Reviewers would've but picked the plot and dialog but because they changed the design instead they praised it. Hypocrite reviewers

[Coola Yagami]

I agree the movie would've bombed with the original design despite being the same God dsmn movie. Reviewers would've but picked the plot and dialog but because they changed the design instead they praised it. Hypocrite reviewers

Not really, the movie had a lot of heart to it and Carrey killed it as Robotnik. If anything people would have found it harder to relate to Sonic cause his first draft design was so ****in ugly.

Kinda like the TMNT Out of the Shadows movie. That scene where Mikey gets sad cause he realizes humans see him as a monster falls flat due to the Micheal Bay designs making him look like a ****ing ugly monster.

[ZariusTwo]

Jason Momoa offered Knuckles

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-movie-jason-momoa-knuckles/

[Rabbit Kraken Zeo]

I hope my boy knuckles gets a big spotlight for the sequel; love knuckles so much it's awesome sauce!

[Shark_Blade]

Here I come
rougher than the rest of em
the best of em

[The Deadman]

Official title is Sonic The Hedgehog 2

[ZariusTwo]

sQuoffM1y-w

[Wildcat]

Man that make me so excited. It’s just the title but it really hits that feeling.

[Papenbrook]

That logo looks ... off-putting.

[TurtleTitan97]

That logo looks ... off-putting.

Man, you will literally find just about ANYTHING to complain about, no matter how minor. And I say this as someone who thought the first film was meh.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Man, you will literally find just about ANYTHING to complain about, no matter how minor. And I say this as someone who thought the first film was meh.

Pedantbrook

All I can say is, nice logo.

[ZariusTwo]

That logo looks ... off-putting.

May you rest in peace.

[Andrew NDB]

*shrug* I haven't been bothered to see the first one yet, but people seemed to enjoy it and their "fan service" to get the design closer to the games was commendable. Good for them.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

*shrug* I haven't been bothered to see the first one yet, but people seemed to enjoy it and their "fan service" to get the design closer to the games was commendable. Good for them.

As a big fan of Sonic myself, I enjoyed it for what it was but even then, it's not something I need to watch over and over. I saw it twice for free in theaters to see if I enjoy it more a second time but the experience was no different from the first. Given what this series has gone through over the years, some of us are just happy that it wasn't a dumpsterfire we thought it would be while others will praise it to the moon of how it's "the most amazing movie in the world!" Really, it's just an enjoyable kid-friendly movie.

Watch it only if you're in the mood or curious.

[Leo656]

I still haven't seen it yet, either. I probably will, but I kinda have this problem with Jim Carrey in anything that isn't "Man on the Moon".

[Rabbit Kraken Zeo]

When Tails appeared at the end of Sonic 1 movie I think everyone knew a sequel could be possible. My biggest dream within the sequel is Knuckles appearing somewhere after Tails "finds" Sonic as his cut scene would imply looking for sonic upon arrival.

Perhaps the biggest thing to me is maybe in this sequel they can have classic interactions with these characters that would make for some pretty high level throwbacks; maybe tails picks up sonic and "fly" to a destination or maybe he rescues sonic or even when he flies and picks up sonic, knuckles could appear (as a baddie but isn't) or something of that nature.

That logo is okay at least for now.

[Andrew NDB]

I still haven't seen it yet, either. I probably will, but I kinda have this problem with Jim Carrey in anything that isn't "Man on the Moon".

Kick-Ass 2 was pretty OK. Until he launched a social media campaign to badmouth it because he decided violence and guns were evil and put on his educational hat.

[Leo656]

Yeah, I agree. Not a great movie, or at least not as good as the first, but it was pretty good and he was good in it. But the whole media thing made me lose what little respect for him I had left. He's a huge asshole.

[Rabbit Kraken Zeo]

If it takes place in Sonic's World it's basically just a CG movie and no longer live action right?

Like my thought here was shouldn't they have done the first film in his actual world? On the other side of it though I can see where why they chose to put him in our world instead because now we can go to his world over time especially with the sequel now opening "doorways".

I would think it's still considered live action if they use both elements.

[ssjup81]

sQuoffM1y-wWait, is that Emerald Hill Zone's music playing for this...sounds like it. That aside, I'm looking forward to it. Curious where this story will go.I still haven't seen it yet, either. I probably will, but I kinda have this problem with Jim Carrey in anything that isn't "Man on the Moon".I've never been big on Jim Carey, but I actually liked him in this. He's not very Eggmanish/Robotonikish but I feel that will come in the sequel given how this one ended. That aside, it was fun movie. It has it's issues like any movie, but it was still fun. Oh and boy did they bring up Olive Garden a lot...form what I remember anyway. lol

[TigerClaw]

Sonic The Hedgehog 2 officially begins production. https://twitter.com/fowltown/status/1371616469214187522
Lights, camera, hedgehog. Production on Sonic the Hedgehog 2 starts TODAY! #SonicMovie2
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ewj15qkXEAIv39u?format=jpg&name=small

[Shark_Blade]

I love this song.

[Papenbrook]

Oh ... (https://mobile.twitter.com/rejectedjokes/status/1371619227463938049)

I'm preparing for twice the cringe.

..... Is that chair even real?

[The Deadman]

Oh ... (https://mobile.twitter.com/rejectedjokes/status/1371619227463938049)

I'm preparing for twice the cringe.

..... Is that chair even real?

Can you be banned from the thread? How sad do you have to be to complain about the logo on a f*cking director's chair?

[ZariusTwo]

Oh ... (https://mobile.twitter.com/rejectedjokes/status/1371619227463938049)

I'm preparing for twice the cringe.

..... Is that chair even real?

Y1tYnGoLW34

[ssjup81]

Y1tYnGoLW34It's junk like that, that made me like Sonic Boom. It was so self aware and took shots at the never satisfied Sonic fanbase. :lol:

[TigerClaw]

G.U.N. from the Sonic Adventure games has been spotted on the set of Sonic The Hedgehog 2. The logo looks similar to the one from the games.
https://twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/1384022707377893380

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzUIjNHVcAc2fxy?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzUIr-UVoAEN09V?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzUIjNHVcAc2fxy?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzUI1FCVEAI_vbZ?format=jpg&name=small

[Wildcat]

Oh man this really surprises me. I wasn’t excepting anything from the Adventure games to be adapted. Not yet anyway, if they get to do more.

I know it could just be for fun. That they named the military after GUN but at the same time it’s like...what else could it mean? I was already hyped.

[TigerClaw]

Jim Carrey has been spotted on the set, and he's flying.
https://twitter.com/JACK969van/status/1384304933730619394

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzYJ_ouUcAAyNpd?format=jpg&name=small

Here's video of it.
https://twitter.com/JACK969van/status/1384326562682609666

[TigerClaw]

Sonic, Tails and Knuckle stand in props were spotted on the set. So this confirms 100% about Knuckles being in the sequel.
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1384649286470750211

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzdA3IqX0Awc_lo?format=jpg&name=small

[oldmanwinters]

Sonic, Tails and Knuckle stand in props were spotted on the set. So this confirms 100% about Knuckles being in the sequel.
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1384649286470750211

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzdA3IqX0Awc_lo?format=jpg&name=small

Heh, those things look a bit too much Sonic Boom to me! :tlol:

[TigerClaw]

Here's some more images.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezd-0lCXMAEXD7r?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezd-021X0AIodOL?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezd-1FeWEAMc2PL?format=jpg&name=small

Here's a new set video.
https://twitter.com/ATeacherMomma/status/1384712209511501826

[sdp]

GUN agents means that Shadow the Hedgehog is going to be there.
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/shadow_the_hedgehog_cover.png


Maybe not in the movie since it already seems to be crowded with 2 new sonic friends who weren't there before but I'm sure he'll be in the ending like tails was in the original. He's like Venom of Spider-Man, hated by classic fans but too popular with the new generation to ignore.

[Wildcat]

They look so cool together.

I guess Knuckles is not going to be tricked into believing Robotnik the whole time, if at all, since they’re teaming up it seems.

I really hope some toy company make life size, fully detailed movie figures. Like really high end collectibles. The way superheroes get.

[TigerClaw]

Here's a new image that shows all 3 in spin dash form.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzeOWOYVUAA7ItX?format=jpg&name=small

[The Deadman]

So I'm assuming this is towards the back end of the movie. I'm still hyped but I mean....this is essentially a spoiler, is it not?

[drgon78]

Hopefully Tails still gets enough screen time/character development. Also that they keep the voice actor for Tails from the first movie.

[Wildcat]

It was quite clear Knuckles was going to be in if but you really don’t want any spoiled you have to completely avoid anything associated with the movie. Basically nothing related to said franchise because it’s reported everywhere.

This goes for everything. I know it can be hard with the internet and multiple things going on.

It’s cool that set material shows up online and I guess they don’t mind bystanders recording stuff but I personally would not reveal anything out of courtesy to the filmmakers and movie.

[Allio]

Where is our scheduled outrage by Pap?

[TigerClaw]

Here's some more on set pics with the Props. For some reason they only show Knuckles's head on a pole this time.
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1385814888208031748

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EztnSgIWUAcvJk3?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EztnSrCWEAEwJSl?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EztnS0kWUAMbY24?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EztnS-CWQAge0UL?format=jpg&name=small

[TigerClaw]

Filming has wrapped in Vancouver. But they are expected to shoot in Hawaii soon.
https://twitter.com/fowltown/status/1392657544930226177
That’s a wrap in Vancouver! Thank you to all the amazing cast/crew in this city... so much incredible talent helping make #SonicMovie2 truly special (and spoiler alert... EPIC! )
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1O2o_LVUAQpcPH?format=jpg&name=small

[Wildcat]

People are thinking Hawaii is being used for Angel Island or some game location. I’m excited to see set leaks but at the same time not. They might spoil something like emeralds...but not hard to figure I guess.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Geez I'm wondering if the people behind this movie intentionally spoiled Knuckles because I'd imagine the higher ups would be angered by this.:lol:

I mean the echidnas in the first movie gave it away that he was going to show up but I wasn't too sure if he would have a major role or if he appears in a post credits scene like Tails did for the first film and will show up in the third film.

Regarding the Chaos Emeralds, I guess it's very possible. Furthermore with Knux being in this, there's no reason not to believe the Master Emerald won't be in this. Would be something if we could get Super Sonic, Super Tails and Super Knux.

I'm expecting GUN to be the idiots that they are in the games.

[Wildcat]

I read somewhere people were allowed to record and take pictures as long as they didn’t interfere with the actual production. They were ok with it apparently.

Knuckles was a given but anything else should be kept secret I think.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I'm wondering if Robotnik will still refer to himself as his name with Sonic and company nicknaming him "Eggman" like Sonic Adventure or if he'll take a liking to the "Eggman" name and just roll with it.

[TigerClaw]

Geez I'm wondering if the people behind this movie intentionally spoiled Knuckles because I'd imagine the higher ups would be angered by this.:lol:

I mean the echidnas in the first movie gave it away that he was going to show up but I wasn't too sure if he would have a major role or if he appears in a post credits scene like Tails did for the first film and will show up in the third film.

Regarding the Chaos Emeralds, I guess it's very possible. Furthermore with Knux being in this, there's no reason not to believe the Master Emerald won't be in this. Would be something if we could get Super Sonic, Super Tails and Super Knux.

I'm expecting GUN to be the idiots that they are in the games.
With GUN, Maybe Shadow will appear in a post credit scene

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Too soon for him to appear.

[neatoman]

How would Shadow's backstory even make sense in the movie? It's dependant on the humans and the furries being from the same world, which isn't the case in the movie.

[Leo656]

I'm pretty sure that "Sonic Canon" is the last thing on the minds of the people making these movies, bruh. :lol:

[TigerClaw]

Here's video from the Sonic Movie 2 filming in Hawaii.
https://twitter.com/reelnewshawaii/status/1403478543556694017

[Wildcat]

I’m gonna guess Sonic came from Ice Cap or somewhere with snow. Opened a ring portal to escape an avalanche and some snow came through landing on someone. Looks like a guy is getting up from the pile of snow.

[ssjup81]

Here's video from the Sonic Movie 2 filming in Hawaii.
https://twitter.com/reelnewshawaii/status/1403478543556694017Aw, the video was taken down.

[TigerClaw]

The Sonic Movie is getting a comic book 4 part miniseries from IDW called Sonic the Hedgehog 2: The Official Movie Pre-quill, It will show what Movie Sonic been up to before we get to the sequel.
https://tailschannel.com/sonic-the-hedgehog/movie/comic-book-miniseries-collection/

[NinjaPug]

Idris Elba is voicing Knuckles

https://deadline.com/2021/08/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-idris-elba-to-play-knuckles-1234812424/

[TigerClaw]

Idris Elba is voicing Knuckles

https://deadline.com/2021/08/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-idris-elba-to-play-knuckles-1234812424/
Best casting ever.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Funniest casting ever!:tlol:

[Papenbrook]

I wish they would stop replacing the official cartoon/video game voice actors with random movie stars.

They are ( admittedly ) lesser-known, but still. They shouldn't sacrifice it for an extra name to appear on the poster. :roll:

[drgon78]

I like Idris Elba but the casting doesn't fit to me. Unless he does a different voice then normal...has he done a different voice then his standard before?

[ZariusTwo]

Idris Elba is voicing Knuckles

https://deadline.com/2021/08/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-idris-elba-to-play-knuckles-1234812424/

Someone in casting must have seen a "Do you know da wae?" video.

[Papenbrook]

It just feels like stunt casting.

[CyberCubed]

I'm sure he'll put on a cartoon voice like most actors do when they play cartoon characters. Knuckles isn't going to sound just like a middle age black man.

[sdp]

:lol::lol::lol:
people on twitter are praising that finally Knuckles is officially black and that the black community had always claimed him as "theirs", he's a red Echidna :lol: I guess they don't know Jaleel White was the first voice of Sonic.

I have a feeling this movie will aim for an even younger audience than the original, you just have to, you can't add all these animal friends like Tails and Sonic and not look more kiddy than the original.

[CyberCubed]

People always saw Knuckles as black I guess because of the dreadlocks look in his design? It's the same way Dragonball Z fans always saw Piccolo as black...even though he is green.

[TigerClaw]

People always saw Knuckles as black I guess because of the dreadlocks look in his design? It's the same way Dragonball Z fans always saw Piccolo as black...even though he is green.
Knuckle's design was originally based around the Rastafarian.

[neatoman]

People always saw Knuckles as black I guess because of the dreadlocks look in his design? It's the same way Dragonball Z fans always saw Piccolo as black...even though he is green.

... Odd. The Echidna society was clearly Meso-American inspired in Sonic Adventure, and there is some Indian influence on Namekian society, neither of which are considered black. I'm guessing these fans just really want to see these characters as inspired by black people?

[CyberCubed]

... Odd. The Echidna society was clearly Meso-American inspired in Sonic Adventure, and there is some Indian influence on Namekian society, neither of which are considered black. I'm guessing these fans just really want to see these characters as inspired by black people?

Black people see themselves in Knuckles because he's tough, confident and punches to get things done (hence his name), and as I said, the hair looks like dreadlocks. That's why when it comes to characters who are animals or aliens, you see black people say, "This character is black."

In the Dragon Ball fandom I see people say it about Pikkon, Piccolo and nowadays Hit. In the Pokemon fandom people try to claim Brock is black even though he's based on a South Asian.

[sdp]

Piccolo is not black, all the countries that had DBZ before the states including Asia, Europe and Latin America considered him a demon first and then an alien, since that is what he is, I mean if they want a hero they already have Mr. Popo.

Knuckles is clearly Mesoamerican based on his roots on the CANON games, if we go by voice actors then Sonic is black. The closest thing Knuckles ever had to being black is his rap song:
DF726gXNNmE

[CyberCubed]

There are people who post stuff like this on twitter so see for yourself:

https://pics.me.me/namerian-moorish-man-piccolo-malcolm-x-ax-na-hl-so-13468181.png

[neatoman]

FXglHbYB1Y4

[sdp]

Uganda Knuckles might've been the first amazing meme to come out of VR Chat, good times.
tJp_3-VZZjI

[The Deadman]

Piccolo is not black, all the countries that had DBZ before the states including Asia, Europe and Latin America considered him a demon first and then an alien, since that is what he is, I mean if they want a hero they already have Mr. Popo.

Knuckles is clearly Mesoamerican based on his roots on the CANON games, if we go by voice actors then Sonic is black. The closest thing Knuckles ever had to being black is his rap song:
DF726gXNNmE

And that level sucked.

[TigerClaw]

Lee Majdoub who played Agent Stone in the first movie will be back for the sequel.
https://twitter.com/SonicMovie/status/1443244179207847939
https://twitter.com/LeeMajdoub/status/1443244505788928005
Agent Stone (aka
@LeeMajdoub
) is BACK for #SonicMovie2! What does this have to do with #NationalCoffeeDay? IYKYK
I’m back for #SonicMovie2!!!
What... did you really think Dr. Robotnik could do this without me? (Don’t answer that).
Anyways, Happy #NationalCoffeeDay! #SteamedAustrianGoatMilkLatte
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAdrgt0VIAAtAXy?format=jpg&name=small

[Papenbrook]

I bet that the latte isn't even real. :roll:

I wonder what is going on with this film.

[The Deadman]

"I bet this latte isnt even real"

Of course its not. Go away.

[Allio]

Not movie related but good

45e7vYNj09Y

[sdp]

an unironic edgelord rap? I'm all over that ****. way better than the movie.

[Papenbrook]

Some parts of the film were recently screened at CineEurope. (https://deadline.com/2021/10/tom-cruise-cineeurope-surprise-top-gun-maverick-mission-impossible-7-paramount-presentation-1234850666/)

Basically, it's exactly the same as the first film. (https://thegoaspotlight.com/2021/10/06/cineeurope-2021-paramount-presentation/amp/)

Let's hope that Paramount/SEGA don't manage to mess this up. ( But knowing them, they probably will ... )

[oldmanwinters]

Some parts of the film were recently screened at CineEurope. (https://deadline.com/2021/10/tom-cruise-cineeurope-surprise-top-gun-maverick-mission-impossible-7-paramount-presentation-1234850666/)

Basically, it's exactly the same as the first film. (https://thegoaspotlight.com/2021/10/06/cineeurope-2021-paramount-presentation/amp/)

Let's hope that Paramount/SEGA don't manage to mess this up. ( But knowing them, they probably will ... )

So... it follows the map of Venom: Let There Be Carnage ?

[Papenbrook]

There have been Sonic 2 leaks going around the web.

One of the writers recommends ignoring them, as said leaks are likely fake. [ WARNING: POTENTIAL SPOILERS (https://mobile.twitter.com/Pat_Kc/status/1461761014756560902) ]

[TigerClaw]

Is the trailer gonna drop on Thanksgiving Day? Someone replied to Paramount for a hint on the trailer in the comments of a Thanksgiving video, and Paramount responded back.
https://twitter.com/MarshMations/status/1461850044261302274

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEmIugPVIAcQYpI?format=png&name=900x900

[TigerClaw]

Looks like the trailer for the sequel is done, and its over two minutes, and it will feature Knuckles in it, But no word when it will release.
https://twitter.com/bigscreenleaks/status/1464620846216105990
Just got word that the trailer for #SonicMovie2 is done. It’s a little over 2 minutes and we’ll see our first look at Knuckles in it.

[The Deadman]

Possible it'll release close to Christmas.

[Papenbrook]

It appears that the trailer has been rated.




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FF9h0lLVEAIMMnX?format=jpg&name=small ("https://mobile.twitter.com/Kitsuoi1/status/1467999562547675136" )




I wonder if it will drop during The 2021 Game Awards.

[ZariusTwo]

Colleen is voicing Tails

https://twitter.com/vocolleen/status/1468305802687483911?s=21

[ranger_scout]

Colleen is voicing Tails

https://twitter.com/vocolleen/status/1468305802687483911?s=21

It's nice to see a veteran voice actress play Tails.

[Papenbrook]

I know that they shouldn't get praise for doing the bare minimum, but still. Good job, Paramount.

Hopefully, this marks a turning point for professional voice actors/actresses within the entertainment industry.

[drgon78]

Glad to hear they are keeping the same voice. I really do hope that this will start a trend of using voice actors for animated movies.

[NinjaPug]

Trailer tomorrow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGF64KlWQAkDA9Q?format=jpg&name=900x900

[TigerClaw]

Trailer tomorrow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGF64KlWQAkDA9Q?format=jpg&name=900x900
That's like the coolest poster ever, Glad to see that were getting the Tornado.

Knuckles isn't in the poster, But we'll see him in the trailer.

[drgon78]

I love that poster, I hope it will be the blu-ray cover.

[Andrew NDB]

I admit, it will be interesting to see them go "full gonzo" with an unapologetically game-accurate Robotnik in the whole thing, etc., and I'm assuming at least a good amount of time in the Sonic "world."

[shredder orokusaki]

I need Eggman in my Foot Ninjas army.It seems if he works with my scientists we will kill the turtles once and for all. Cant wait for the game and the movie! The first was good but this will be even better.

[The Deadman]

I need to buy that poster as soon as it becomes available.

[Coola Yagami]

Trailer tomorrow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGF64KlWQAkDA9Q?format=jpg&name=900x900

Pretty much what part 1 shoulda been.

[Wildcat]

The poster is perfect and they’re supposed to reveal the new game Frontiers.

I guess it’s possible it’s just Origins but doesn’t really make sense since it was officially announced already.

[Autbot_Benz]

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[Cyndaquilfan123]

The trailer looks excellent. :D:D They're really upping the ante here. This seems to be a Sonic and Tails duo movie and I'm here for it.

[IMJ]

Good trailer.

I hope it's as fun and good hearted as the first one.
I hope it avoids woke $#!(.

Still not a fan of these movies always doing the "in the real world on Earth" thing, but the first one was well-timed and well done so I'm in on buying a ticket on good faith here.

[TigerClaw]

The Chaos Emerald and Angel Island is in the movie.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGNdj41XsAIe6Go?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGNdkAXX0AIV0OZ?format=jpg&name=small

[Wildcat]

Awesome trailer.

Wonder if it’s the Master Emerald. Temple shows signs of an owl race...wonder if Longclaw returns.

[Shark_Blade]

It’s too small to be Master Emerald right? Even for Knuckles

[Wildcat]

It’s smaller than in the games but the movie has changed certain things a little bit. They might have changed it so it can actually be handled by the characters instead of needing a giant robot to carry it.

It’s green and inside the temple guarded by obstacles and Knuckles. I find it hard believe it’s not the Master Emerald.

[ZariusTwo]

Still setting it on Earth really feels like a cost-cutting measure now.

Tails and Sonic as a duo makes me hopeful there's not much from the other humans beyond Robotnik and Stone.

[CyberCubed]

Knuckles is black now?

[sdp]

This looks more like a CG movie than a live action Sonic.

[Coola Yagami]

Knuckles is black now?

Lot of people think he is, to the point where people that have drawn fan art of 'white' human Knuckles has jerks re-color him to black and say 'there, fixed it for ya'.

I'm assuming it's to avoid backlash and also too many white people there already. Sonic, Tails AND Knuckles, all 3 of them being voiced by white people? Can't have that in the 2020's. Can't have little black Timmy not being able to see himself in Knuckles or something something woke left logic.

[oldmanwinters]

I always figured SEGA/Sonic Team's intention with Knuckles and his echidna race was to model them after the Mayans. Sonic Adventure 1 isn't exactly subtle in its cultural influences.

[Allio]

It’s too small to be Master Emerald right? Even for Knuckles

I imagine it’s going to play both the role of Master emeral and the chaos emeralds (we don’t really need a Out of the Shadows fetch quest)

With the second movie no doubt probably going to have more story about the Enchiladas tribe, I can’t help but to think that the third movie will end with Chaos.

Basically movie two third act villain will be Metal Sonic vs Sonic and Knuckles, third being Chaos (being Super Sonic’s “First super saiyan” moment)

And then if they continue, the fourth film will be Shadow.

[neatoman]

Knuckles is black now?

No, he's a cartoon echidna... Same as he's always been...

... He's voiced by a black guy but he's clearly still just a cartoon echidna.

[Coola Yagami]

No, he's a cartoon echidna... Same as he's always been...

... He's voiced by a black guy but he's clearly still just a cartoon echidna.

Tell that to the woke leftist Twitter mob.

[The Deadman]

I imagine it’s going to play both the role of Master emeral and the chaos emeralds (we don’t really need a Out of the Shadows fetch quest)

With the second movie no doubt probably going to have more story about the Enchiladas tribe, I can’t help but to think that the third movie will end with Chaos.

Basically movie two third act villain will be Metal Sonic vs Sonic and Knuckles, third being Chaos (being Super Sonic’s “First super saiyan” moment)

And then if they continue, the fourth film will be Shadow.

Im willing to bet that Knuckles is the secondary villain in this with Metal being in 3. Metal will appear at the end of 2 which will set up the 3rd.

[TigerClaw]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834226293847097364/919337942978293822/undefined_-_Imgur.gif

[Papenbrook]

I just saw the trailer.

The character designs look off. Other than that, I guess that it was alright.

[Allio]

Im willing to bet that Knuckles is the secondary villain in this with Metal being in 3. Metal will appear at the end of 2 which will set up the 3rd.

The only problem as i see is it would hard to for Eggman to make it work in the narrative with out it coming off as “Just a bigger machine than the first movie machine.”

[TigerClaw]

The Emerald we saw from the Sonic The Hedgehog 2 trailer has been confirmed to be the Master Emerald.
https://www.ign.com/articles/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-master-emerald-knuckles

[ranger_scout]

This already looks better than the first. I also think it has more of a feel to the video games in the action sequences compared to the first one. I am looking forward to this and so are my friends.

[The Deadman]

SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 2 Trailer Easter Egg Suggests The Film Could Feature A Shadow The Hedgehog Cameo
https://toonado.com/movies/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-trailer-easter-egg-suggests-the-film-could-feature-a-shadow-the-hedgehog-cameo-a4782

[sdp]

Sonic 3 the movie will definitely bring Shadow, he's the most popular character after Sonic. This movie can bring in enough hype by having both tails and knuckles but the third movie would need something to make it appear "bigger and better".

Is the live action cop guy from the first movie not in this? I think that's what's missing, without him it feels like a CG movie instead of a live action movie with cg.

[The Deadman]

Sonic 3 the movie will definitely bring Shadow, he's the most popular character after Sonic. This movie can bring in enough hype by having both tails and knuckles but the third movie would need something to make it appear "bigger and better".

Is the live action cop guy from the first movie not in this? I think that's what's missing, without him it feels like a CG movie instead of a live action movie with cg.

You mean Tom? He's in it, he's in the scene where they're in the canoe and he's talking to Sonic about being a kid etc.

[ZariusTwo]

NAEiI4idg8c

[DarkFell]

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I think that I recognize The Death Egg Robot. In the original Sonic 2 game manual, it was originally called the Doomsday Machine.
Thanks Zarius. I'm looking forward to this movie.

[drgon78]

I can't wait for this movie.

Hopefully the Shadow credits scene rumors are false, never liked the character, and there many others I would prefer to see.

[sdp]

I can't wait for this movie.

Hopefully the Shadow credits scene rumors are false, never liked the character, and there many others I would prefer to see.

No other character would get hype from a end credits trailer, he's really the only big character left to wow casual audiences and casual geek blogs to do the rounds. Metal Sonic isn't big enough which is the only other contender.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

It's probably due to Shadow burnout.

He's inevitable but I can't see him appearing before Amy or Metal Sonic. Not only because they came first but Amy would attract more female audiences.

[sdp]

For movies they always need something "bigger" to convince audiences to go. Amy is not a big character to add as a way to get people excited for the next movie even if she is indeed added.

Sort of how Tails wasn't big enough to be the only new addition so they had knuckles. I don't see both Metal Sonic and Shadow being in the same movie since they're both basically evil Sonic. And Metal Sonic won't get casuals raving about it for months and months like Shadow would.

Anyone else think Sonic looks furrier and closer to his original design for this movie? Not to the extent as the original design but he doesn't look as game accurate as the redesign from the last movie. I also feel this movie is going to aim way younger in the demographic and it'll alienate the average older adult, which the movie was always on for kids but last movie they were able to get nostalgic adults to say the movie was good, I'm not sure to that will happen again.

[Leofan26]

For movies they always need something "bigger" to convince audiences to go. Amy is not a big character to add as a way to get people excited for the next movie even if she is indeed added.

Sort of how Tails wasn't big enough to be the only new addition so they had knuckles. I don't see both Metal Sonic and Shadow being in the same movie since they're both basically evil Sonic. And Metal Sonic won't get casuals raving about it for months and months like Shadow would.

Anyone else think Sonic looks furrier and closer to his original design for this movie? Not to the extent as the original design but he doesn't look as game accurate as the redesign from the last movie. I also feel this movie is going to aim way younger in the demographic and it'll alienate the average older adult, which the movie was always on for kids but last movie they were able to get nostalgic adults to say the movie was good, I'm not sure to that will happen again.
Well, she could appear along with Shadow like what happened with Tails.

You guys are the first I've seen with any sort of negative feedback. All of the YouTube reactions have been positive.

I'm really looking forward to this one personally do to the game features in this and characters in here.

I hope the rumors of Shadow being in the credits is true, even none obsessed Sonic fans know about him, I think he's pretty cool.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

For movies they always need something "bigger" to convince audiences to go. Amy is not a big character to add as a way to get people excited for the next movie even if she is indeed added.

Sort of how Tails wasn't big enough to be the only new addition so they had knuckles. I don't see both Metal Sonic and Shadow being in the same movie since they're both basically evil Sonic. And Metal Sonic won't get casuals raving about it for months and months like Shadow would.

Anyone else think Sonic looks furrier and closer to his original design for this movie? Not to the extent as the original design but he doesn't look as game accurate as the redesign from the last movie. I also feel this movie is going to aim way younger in the demographic and it'll alienate the average older adult, which the movie was always on for kids but last movie they were able to get nostalgic adults to say the movie was good, I'm not sure to that will happen again.

Nowhere did I say Shadow and Metal Sonic will be in the same movie. This is just pure speculation based on Amy and Metal Sonic debuting before Shadow like in the games. If Shadow makes it in this universe, it'll be a while depending on how long this movie series goes on. As for Amy, regardless of her popularity, she's a character that would attract more female audiences (whether she's the only character to appear in say a Sonic 3 or 4 movie or not). Remember, these movies are also introducing new fans to these characters as well as catering to the Sonic fans.

[sdp]

I'm not trying to be negative, just speculating. I also speculated the previous sonic movie would be good, this was before the re-design when everyone shat on the movie. And again here I assume the movie will be intersting for me, I'm not sure if the general trendy geek audience that liked the last movie will like it. I'm Sure Sonic fans will like it easier but they can't make a movie successful alone. I think it'll be cool to see shadow in the end credits or a hint at him. I just think if they go the sonic metal route it won't be making a big splash among influencers and trendy geek blogs which build up hype.

I also think each movie with more Sonic friends joining the cast it'll continue to alienate audiences and continue to aim at a younger audience. There's a reason the first movie tried to be more "realistic".

[The Deadman]

Well, she could appear along with Shadow like what happened with Tails.

You guys are the first I've seen with any sort of negative feedback. All of the YouTube reactions have been positive.

I'm really looking forward to this one personally do to the game features in this and characters in here.

I hope the rumors of Shadow being in the credits is true, even none obsessed Sonic fans know about him, I think he's pretty cool.

Papenbrook hasnt posted in the thread for a while, we're safe.

[The Deadman]

Speaking of Sonic, we're getting a 3rd movie and a Knuckles spinoff
https://twitter.com/paramountplus/status/1493706463704858625

[TigerClaw]

Speaking of Sonic, we're getting a 3rd movie and a Knuckles spinoff
https://twitter.com/paramountplus/status/1493706463704858625
Here's the official logo for the 3rd movie.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLq7_2RXIAEQ9Og?format=jpg&name=medium

[TigerClaw]

Here's the new poster.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL0R22UUcAIf4T4?format=jpg&name=medium

[Galactus]

Kinda bizarre that back in 2014 the TMNT franchise was on the up with a successful animated series and big budget live action movies. Now it's a dying franchise with a cartoon that barely lasted two seasons and it's only hope for revival is crappy animated movie.

On the flip side the Sonic franchise was for a long time complete joke with a succession of bad games, TV shows and shattered fan base and while this isn't a complete turnaround we got Sonic Mania now it has a financially profitable live action movie franchise.

Out of all of Paramount's announcements yesterday which included new Star Trek, Transformers and TMNT the only thing which looks to be a success is SONIC.

[DarkFell]

The Sonic Movie almost wasn't successful at all. However, Paramount did something that is considered rare for a movie production studio. It listened to the fans and however it happened, Tyson Hesse got on board.

I'm not certain what happened to 2K3 version of TMNT, but I know that the producers for 2K12 version of TMNT listened to the fans of the OT enough to bring that alternate timeline in twice.

The games were just there for fun, but it does hit hard when they don't do as well as they could have.

[TigerClaw]

Here's a new promotional banner.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL5XLeyWUAgyL8S?format=jpg&name=medium

[TigerClaw]

IGN will be doing a panel with the cast of Sonic Movie 2, You can watch the live stream before, The panel should start around 6:20pm EST.

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[TigerClaw]

Here's the video from the panel.

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[The Deadman]

Here's the new poster.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL0R22UUcAIf4T4?format=jpg&name=medium

I wanna buy this poster.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I wanna buy this poster.

Movie theaters sometimes give away free posters and banners. Hopefully your local theater will have some when the movie releases.

[TigerClaw]

Knuckles will have a sense of humor in the movie according to Idris Elba, The kind of humor in which Knuckles talks about something seriously, But ends up sounding funny by the others, He mentions about a scene where Knuckles talks about ice cream seriously.
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1495180465631895554

[TigerClaw]

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[TigerClaw]

The sequel will have an official running time of 1 hour and 50 minutes according to the AMC Theaters app, The first movie was 1 hour and 39 minutes.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214749221952159744/950273264062713866/IMG_2119.png

[oldmanwinters]

The sequel will have an official running time of 1 hour and 50 minutes according to the AMC Theaters app, The first movie was 1 hour and 39 minutes.

Suitable for an epic we all deserve. :tcool:

[LeotheLateBloomer]

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[Anarchistguy]

Personally, I would have saved Knuckles for the 3rd movie and focused this sequel on building up Sonic and Tails' friendship.

[drgon78]

I agree, but it is still a miracle that we are getting a sequel at all and that it might actually be better then the first one.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the official song and video for the France version of the movie, The US might be getting a different song.

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That song copies from this classic song.

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[TigerClaw]

Here's the official song and video for the US release. Kid Cudi - Stars In The Sky

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[TigerClaw]

Clip of Sonic and Knuckles snowboarding.

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[TigerClaw]

Meet Knuckles clip.

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[neatoman]

Why does Knuckles feel more like Shadow in these clips?

[DarkFell]

Why does Knuckles feel more like Shadow in these clips?
I picked up on those vibes too.

Knuckles was more cool-headed in the old games. Naive? Yes. Aggressive? Not so much. However, he was a nuisance in Sonic 3 and I think that he was also a temporary antagonist in the Game Gear Triple Trouble game. The later games had him abandon The Floating Island for some reason, probably because SEGA assumed that Sonic needed another buddy.

I didn't like the direction that Sonic Underground went, but that cartoon did about the most accurate version of Knuckles so far. (I'm talking about the first episode that he appeared in.)

[ZariusTwo]

Reviews

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-james-marsden-jim-carrey-1235118991/

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/mar/28/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-review-no-surprises-in-segas-speedy-critter-sequel

https://www.gamesradar.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-movie-review/

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/reviews/sonic-the-hedgehog-2/

[TigerClaw]

The sequel has 64% on Rotten Tomatoes with just 11 reviews.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sonic_the_hedgehog_2

[neatoman]

I picked up on those vibes too.

Knuckles was more cool-headed in the old games. Naive? Yes. Aggressive? Not so much. However, he was a nuisance in Sonic 3 and I think that he was also a temporary antagonist in the Game Gear Triple Trouble game. The later games had him abandon The Floating Island for some reason, probably because SEGA assumed that Sonic needed another buddy.

I didn't like the direction that Sonic Underground went, but that cartoon did about the most accurate version of Knuckles so far. (I'm talking about the first episode that he appeared in.)

I think Sega generally don't care that much about consistency about Sonic's world or characters beyond their general personalities, they can't even seem to decide if other humans besides Eggman exist. I wouldn't exactly be surprised if it turned out of most games featuring Knuckles are made without ever considering the existence of Angel Island or the Master Emerald, instead just assuming he's one of Sonic's buddies with no other obligations. I think the worst example of this is that Blaze alternates between being from another world and from the future depending on whether or not Silver is around.

But uh, yeah. Still hard to imagine Knuckles acting like this in the games, being aggressive and condescending seems more like Shadow.

Reviews

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-james-marsden-jim-carrey-1235118991/

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/mar/28/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-review-no-surprises-in-segas-speedy-critter-sequel

https://www.gamesradar.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-movie-review/

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/reviews/sonic-the-hedgehog-2/

The sequel has 64% on Rotten Tomatoes with just 11 reviews.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sonic_the_hedgehog_2

Did anyone really think this movie was going to be more than mediocre?

[Leo656]

I think most video game movies are so bad that most people are more than satisfied by the Sonic movies being "Not Terrible".

Still haven't seen the first one. I should work on that I guess.

[TigerClaw]

Its right now at 69%.

[neatoman]

Its right now at 69%.

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[ZariusTwo]

So Paramount are taking down leaks on YT that appear to confirm

Shadow The Hedgehog

[neatoman]

So Paramount are taking down leaks on YT that appear to confirm

Shadow The Hedgehog

I went ahead and looked up the leak, it's real. If it's not, then someone went through the trouble of recreating costumes, deepfake actors and making a fairly elaborate bit of CGI to make a fake leak.

[TigerClaw]

I just read the Pre-Quill comic that sets up the sequel, One of the big questions since the first movie was finally answered in this, The comic finally confirms that Longclaw is dead.

[ZariusTwo]

Jim Carrey looking to retire after this.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/01/jim-carrey-planning-to-retire-from-acting-after-sonic-2-16385923/

[oldmanwinters]

Jim Carrey looking to retire after this.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/01/jim-carrey-planning-to-retire-from-acting-after-sonic-2-16385923/

Foo's Day.

post credits scene leaked
IT'S CONFIRMED, edgelords rejoice!

Shadow The flippin' Hedgehog is in Sonic 3. One of the last games from my childhood Sonic Adventure 2 is being adapted into a movie.

My first Avatar on the Technodrome forums was actually a Shadow the Hedgehog avatar

International Date Line Foo's Day?

[ZariusTwo]

Foo's Day.

If Jim is telling the truth

...Then the movie does a pretty convincing job of leaving it open-ended. Robotnik's last seen falling to his death and he doesn't show up in the mid-credits, but his assistant Stone does. It's the movie's version of the ending of Sonic Satam where the big bad is defeated but now someone we all underestimate could now step up

International Date Line Foo's Day?

No, I just saw the movie. It's real

Also, Super Sonic is in it

[neatoman]

Alright, I just watched this movie. It is stupid and several effects are bad. It's not really a good movie by any means but it's barely worse than the first one, so if you liked that one it's not like this one is going to piss you off. A good chunk of this movie could easily be considered filler and quite a bit of that is about the sister-in-law getting married, which just felt tacked on in many ways.

As for any details, in case anyone is still wondering, much of Knuckles' characterisation in the trailers is misleading and a few lines are missing. Knuckles in the actual movie feels like some bizarre mixture of what he was like in Sonic Boom (oblivious and slow witted) and Piccolo from Dragon Ball (brooding loner warrior type).

Some of the dumber bits in the movie is the sister-in-law speculating that the person who waxed her (what is implied to be) pubic hair was spying on her, and Knuckles suggesting they should attack Eggman's groin. Speaking of Eggman, Sonic calls him Robotnik more than he does Eggman, which is weird to me.

It's not made entirely clear, but it is possible that Sonic, Knuckles and Tails may in fact be from different planets rather than the same one. I'm not sure if that's the implication, the Echnidas, Owls and Sonic all seemed to be from the same planet in the first one. This one however makes it clear that the owls traveled around the universe, Tails specifies "his" planet rather than "their" planet and several characters and factions are referenced in relation to the galaxy or universe.

As for spoilers:
Eggman escapes the mushroom planet by contacting human sized humanoids in masks, seemingly from the same planet as Knuckles. I don't know what to make of that, I know Sonic X had humans on Sonic's world apart from the ones on Earth. I guess that these movies draw from Sonic X more than any other adaptation but in kind of a loose way. To be honest Sonic X itself is kind of confusing in the regards to the multiple planets and the creatures living on them, I'm not sure what to make of either. Maybe they were these seperate humans, maybe they were they were just aliens, who knows? I think the universe is meant to be a mix of alien humans and furries like in Sonic X but it's hard to tell.

The Chaos Emeralds were used to forge the Master Emerald and, up until the climax, were contained within it. When Sonic scatters the emeralds, Knuckles takes the shards and repairs it, so now it exists as it's own thing apart from the Chaos Emeralds and now it's being kept in a a cooler. Not sure if that means it's less powerful or not. I'm guessing this is the explanation for why Knuckles can travel around and still guard it, something the games never quite explained (though I guess SA2 showed that he could just shove it up his ass). There is no mention of Chaos or a puddle sliding around when the Master Emerald breaks as far as I could tell.

Yes, Shadow is in the after credits scene. Much like in Sonic X, I don't know what to make of it. I can't tell if he's an alien like Sonic or if it's just a coincidence. It's implied he has some connection to Eggman, meaning the Ark is probably a thing in the third movie.

[oldmanwinters]

New clip shared today:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHSU0SJv33A

[TigerClaw]

New behind the scenes clip about Knuckles.

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[ZariusTwo]

Ken Penders causing a stir on twitter, claiming his Echidna backstories were used in the movie without his permission

[neatoman]

Ken Penders causing a stir on twitter, claiming his Echidna backstories were used in the movie without his permission

Aren't his Echidnas basically the Romulans from Star Trek? Because I didn't see any of that in this movie.

[The Deadman]

Ken Penders causing a stir on twitter, claiming his Echidna backstories were used in the movie without his permission

This dude wants to remain relevant, doesnt he.

[oldmanwinters]

I saw the movie Thursday night, and REALLY liked it!

[TigerClaw]

Saw it earlier today, It was awesome, Bring on Sonic Movie 3, They put so much love with the source material.

I saw it at the 11am showing, Even had my Sonic Movie 2 shirt.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FP6SbrPXoAUAGvf?format=jpg&name=small

[Turo602]

Saw Sonic last night. Just as terrible as the first. At least 2/3rds of it. Still don't care for Jim Carrey as Eggman, but it does kinda help seeing him at least sport Eggman's ridiculous look, though his jokes here still fall flat. Most of the jokes in the movie fall flat. Sonic is still a stupid child with ADHD and Knuckles sounds like he's mentally retarded which caught me off guard but he's at least a lot more in character than Sonic is. Tails on the other hand is absolutely flawless but nobody likes Tails so that's a shame.

I have to give credit to the third act though. From Knuckles and Jim Carrey running through the old ruins (which btw, why the f*ck couldn't Eggman just fly over the maze and traps in his f*cking machine?) all the way to the big battle at the end, I actually found myself enjoying the film. The less cringey human bullsh*t the better. The whole film feels like it was actually trying to minimize the human aspect by separating Sonic and Tom at the beginning which would have been great if they didn't keep cutting back to that stupid wedding.

It even becomes important to Sonic's story in the dumbest way possible and turns into an overly long Sonicless cringe fest. And then there was this unnecessarily drawn out dance off scene that just wasn't funny and served as another excuse to shoehorn music into the film which it does quite a lot and has become really grating to me after I noticed how often music gets abused for humor or "hip" appeal in kids' films no matter how out of place it is. Even Free Guy, which my niece was watching the other day had some stupid song playing literally every 5 minutes like it couldn't just shut the f*ck up for a bit. I give MCU sh*t for always cramming in a joke every 5 minutes to keep idiots' attention, but this use of music is easily the worst.

But those last 20 minutes or so were pretty solid, unnecessary Jim Carrey jokes and forced Tom stuff aside. The dire situation made this version of Sonic much more tolerable as he wasn't all ADHD for a good while and the big moment, while really cool, was short-lived. The mid-credits scene was really cool too. There was a decent Sonic movie in this mess somewhere but they fumbled it. Though I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy seeing Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails on film together which will only get more interesting going forward.

As a huge Sonic fan, there's definitely a part of me that's excited to see where this goes despite how awful they've went about making this all happen. Hmm, so this is what it was like being a Transformers fan? I predict we'll get a spin-off film at some point which I think they should definitely do and might even stall the third film enough to give themselves time to work out the whole Jim Carrey situation. Though, he could have been bullsh*tting about retiring just to get more interest on the movie.

[drgon78]

I saw the movie on Thursday, really enjoyed it, can't wait for the 3rd.

[oldmanwinters]

I even loved the stupid jokes, because of the delivery:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZshUrPdsisM

I was surprised Knuckles never glided in the film. There were a couple of big opportunities when it would have made sense. He did a little cliff climbing with max effort. Guess he has to work hard for his powers.

[DarkFell]

Ken Penders causing a stir on twitter, claiming his Echidna backstories were used in the movie without his permission
Really? I didn't see any bio-mechanical bits coming out from those echidna tribesmen. Yeah, I cheated and watched a few spoilers from the movie.

(For anyone that avoided the Archie comics, The Dark Legion resembled Borg echidnas. The few normal echidnas were average looking.)

So far, I read some mixed critiques concerning the sequel. I haven't seen the first movie, but I might give in if I see a copy for a good price.

[Zulithe]

Saw it in Dolby Cinema... I liked it although with a lot of caveats, but it's a family movie that's not trying to be fine art so all of the flaws were pretty expected. Just gonna boil it down to some bullet points

* Love everything Sonic, Robotnik, Knuckles
* Tails is one of my favorite characters, and while they played it safe by picking the established voice actor for the character to make sure they nailed the voice, he was underdeveloped and underused compared to the other new character, Knuckles. For me, that was a shame. But he does get some nice moments.
* Love most of the plot that involves the sonic characters, the chaos emerald, the temple/dungeon/maze and the final encounter.
* HATED the dance off... worst part of the movie. Ultra cringe. And the stuff with Tails after the dance-off felt a bit rushed and forced, that entire sequence could have been handled way better, particularly if they chose to have them do JUST ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN A CRINGY DANCE-OFF in order to grow closer.
* Could not tolerate the marriage subplot, particularly the segment after the Bride is shunned and we have to watch her go on revenge for the next 15 minutes. Keep that **** OUT of part 3 for the love of GOD. I don't blame the actress here, she's obviously having fun with it. But honestly... nobody cares. Please let these characters go away.
* sad that Jim likely will not return for 3 due to his retirement plans. Yeah he said he COULD return for other projects, but it sounds like he only wants to do stuff that he feels is important. AKA probably not Sonic 3

Biggest problem as we move into Sonic 3 which is clearly going to happen... well, without Jim there is a huge freaking hole in this franchise and they have to fill it with someone as likeable which is gonna be hard.

[TigerClaw]

The movie now has 135 reviews and went back up to 69% on Rotten Tomatoes.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sonic_the_hedgehog_2

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I saw the film around a week ago since my friends invited me to come along. Interestingly, I haven't seen the first film at all outside of the clip of the Owl backstory on Youtube and the trailers, but I felt that I didn't need to see it in order to understand this one.

Film was pretty good. Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Eggman all just carried the movie on their own.

My only complaint was that the movie was much longer than it needed to be. If all the uneccesary scenes like the wedding and the coffee shop were cut down, I feel that the movie could've been around 90 minutes long and not lost anything of value since I assume that nobody cares about the human characters.

[neatoman]

The movie now has 135 reviews and went back up to 69% on Rotten Tomatoes.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sonic_the_hedgehog_2

And it drops to 40% when you click the "top critics" button. Quite steep, ain't it?

[ranger_scout]

I thought the sequel was fantastic and extremely entertaining. It could've been even better than the first movie I loved all of the references to many of the past video games like how Sonic isn't the best when it comes to being on top of or underwater. The friendship between Sonic and Tails was very sweet as usual.

The way that Sonic convinced Knuckles that Dr. Robotnick/Eggman was never his friend and explained what true friendship was all about was very well-done. I also really enjoyed how the three of them worked together in the final battle and I was so excited when Sonic became Super Sonic.

The moment Shadow appeared in the mid-credits I said "I knew it" to the audience. I just had a hunch that was where the story for the next movie would be heading.

I hope I can take my brother to see it over the Easter weekend. He will really enjoy it.

[CyberCubed]

Guys it's a Sonic movie, not Citizen Kane. For a movie based on a videogame the fact that most think it's good or entertaining is great in itself. We have had way too many horrible videogame movies. A fun kids movie is all Sonic has to be, and it seems like it succeeded.

[Turo602]

Guys it's a Sonic movie, not Citizen Kane. For a movie based on a videogame the fact that most think it's good or entertaining is great in itself. We have had way too many horrible videogame movies. A fun kids movie is all Sonic has to be, and it seems like it succeeded.

It didn't. People love garbage and that's exactly what this movie was. When the kids who enjoyed these films grow up, they're gonna realize how f*cking awful these movies were with their wasted potential. Unless they grow up to be those weirdos on pedophile watchlists who never mature and just consume garbage with a smile on their face because the kiddos enjoy it.

[Leo656]

It didn't. People love garbage and that's exactly what this movie was. When the kids who enjoyed these films grow up, they're gonna realize how f*cking awful these movies were with their wasted potential. Unless they grow up to be those weirdos on pedophile watchlists who never mature and just consume garbage with a smile on their face because the kiddos enjoy it.

Stay gold, Ponyboy.

When I retire from this place I do believe you will be a most worthy successor. The Azrael to my Batman, as it were.

[ZariusTwo]

Unless they grow up to be those weirdos on pedophile watchlists who never mature and just consume garbage with a smile on their face because the kiddos enjoy it.

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[The Deadman]

Welp

https://www.ign.com/articles/sonic-2-is-the-highest-grossing-video-game-movie-ever-in-the-us

[Leo656]

"Congratulations! You're the King of Sh*t Mountain!" :lol::lol::lol:

[The Deadman]

It didn't. People love garbage and that's exactly what this movie was. When the kids who enjoyed these films grow up, they're gonna realize how f*cking awful these movies were with their wasted potential. Unless they grow up to be those weirdos on pedophile watchlists who never mature and just consume garbage with a smile on their face because the kiddos enjoy it.

You say that on a TMNT forum....kinda ironic.

[Leo656]

That does describe most TMNT fans rather succinctly, yes.

[CyberCubed]

Watching this now, what on earth is with the strong and proud fat black woman who can stomp over everything and act like she's loud and proud? Why do they always write black women like this in movies? Especially the fat ones? It's like every outdated stereotype of black women walking over men possible.

Rest of the movie is good and fun so far, I'm surprised how much i'm liking it.

[superstaff]

Watching this now, what on earth is with the strong and proud fat black woman who can stomp over everything and act like she's loud and proud? Why do they always write black women like this in movies? Especially the fat ones? It's like every outdated stereotype of black women walking over men possible.

I hate that stereotype (it's so disrespectful to black women...), and she was one of the things I hated most in the first one. Haven't seen the second, but I hear they expanded her role, even giving her a huge subplot... Ugh.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I hate that stereotype (it's so disrespectful to black women...), and she was one of the things I hated most in the first one. Haven't seen the second, but I hear they expanded her role, even giving her a huge subplot... Ugh.

Yeah...the second movie doesn't focus on the humans as much but when they do, they're pretty unbearable to watch. Those scenes are the ones I would've cut out completely. It's like something out of a Madea movie. To the first movie's credit, the humans were actually somewhat amusing and the sister of Tom's wife was only in it for a little bit. Outside those scenes, the second movie is closer to the games than the first so there is that.

[CyberCubed]

I just don't know why they make the angry fat black woman a thing. The fat black middle age woman who will beat up every man and act loud and proud. She even does a slit throat maneuver with her finger insinuating her superiority over the weak an insecure man.

Who goes to see a Sonic movie to watch a fat black woman's wedding anyway? I mean it's only in the film for maybe 15 minutes total but those scenes drag the movie down to a snails pace. I can only think what the Japanese must think when this airs in Japan and they think blacks are all like this. God I feel so sorry for black people.

[TigerClaw]

The movie will be released tomorrow digitally, and it will have a ton of special features, One of them is an animated short called Sonic Drone Home, Here's a little clip of it.

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[TigerClaw]

You can now watch it on Paramount+
https://www.paramountplus.com/movies/video/NXFYTekfckCoKBmEoDZZOtMsiCIG3D0_/?intcid=PPI-16-10aba0h

[Wildcat]

I was not able to see this in theaters (not COVID-19 related) so I saw it on Paramount +. Thought it was a great follow up.

Unpopular opinion but I liked the human character scenes. I thought they were funny including Rachel. They were worked in quite well actually. Not just filler. Overall I laughed more than I thought I would.

What’s this “garbage” talk? It’s faithful to the source material. I mean the differences between the games are perfectly reasonable. Nothing wrong with changing it up a bit.

I could have done without a few jokes I thought kind of interfere with the moment but I’m not gonna hold it against it. My only real complaint is no Crush 40/game music. It would have been cool to hear.

Thoughts on the movie itself...

First those soldiers in the beginning that came through the ring. Some YouTube comments say they’re from the prequel comic. They gather Warriors. I haven’t read it but that’s interesting.

I think Longclaw could still be alive. Her secret message was left just in case but it’s not confirmed she’s gone.

I honestly got a little tearful for Knuckles during the scene when they finally become friends. He was so sad...I don’t care if it’s nerdy :lol:

If Jim Carrey is really retiring for awhile I think Agent Stone could be a good replacement for a movie or two. He disguised himself as a GUN soldier at the very end and he’s certainly loyal to Robotnik.

I like Shadow (I have his plushie :D ) but I would have preferred Metal Sonic first. I guess they could both appear but he’s not really part of the SA2 story.
That’s it for now. I’m sure I’ll think of more after it sinks in and I see it again.