Nickelodeon's Star Trek: Prodigy

[ZariusTwo]

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EXCLUSIVE: Back in 1987, Star Trek: The Next Generation debuted and next year will see a further expansion of the Gene Roddenberry franchise for a new generation, literally.



Set to premiere in 2021 on Nickelodeon, the kids orientated CG-animated series will be called Star Trek: Prodigy I can reveal. Here, as Comic-Con@Home really kicks into gear, is also a first look at the logo for show:


First announced back in April 2019, the series from Trollhunters scribes Kevin and Dan Hageman and overseen by Ramsey Naito, Nick?s Animation Production and Development EVP will follow a group of rebellious teens who commandeer an old Starfleet ship and head off into the universe for adventure and more.


Prodigy comes from CBS? Eye Animation Productions, CBS Television Studios? new animation arm, plus Secret Hideout; and Roddenberry Entertainment. Trekverse overlords Alex Kurtzman, Heather Kadin will serve as EPs will Katie Krentz, Rod Roddenberry, Trevor Roth and the Hageman siblings. Aaron Baiers will serve as a co-executive producer.


This move to a younger audience comes as the Trekverse has recently seen the conclusion of the first season of the renewed Star Trek: Picard with the legendary TNG captain and Sir Patrick Stewart. Having started this latest expansion of Roddenberry?s creations back in 2017, the Sonequa Martin-Green-led Star Trek: Discovery is set to return for a third season on CBS All Access later this year. Additionally, as the animated comedy Star Trek: Lower Decks prepares to debut on August 6, the Trekverse has the Spock starring Star Trek: Strange New Worlds in the pipeline and another series featuring Michelle Yeoh?s Discovery character and the mysterious Section 31.



CBS execs once said that they foresaw having a Star Trek show on at every point year-round ? looks like that time, to paraphrase The Smiths, is now.



What is also now or soon, is the Star Trek Universe mega-panel opening the virtual Comic-Con@Home today at 10 AM PST.



Starting off with a chat with Trekverse EPs Kurtzman and Kadin of Secret Hideout, the panel will shift to a partial reading of the Discovery Season 2 finale ?Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2.? Commander Michael Burnham herself Martin-Green there along with Michelle Yeoh (Philippa Georgiou) and other key cast and creatives ? Strange New Worlds stars Rebecca Romijn (Number One), Anson Mount (Captain Christopher Pike), and Ethan Peck (Spock). That?s to be followed by a Lower Decks panel with showrunner Mike McMahan the bottom tier characters of the U.S.S Cerritos.



Finally, the Trekverse mega-panel comes to an end with headliner Star Trek: Picard as Sir Patrick is joined by TNG alum and director Jonathan Frakes, Brent Spiner, Jonathan Del Arco Marina Sirtis, and the Season 2 returning Jeri Ryan. Also on board are castmates Alison Pill, Isa Briones, Evan Evagora, Michelle Hurd, and Santiago Cabrera.



Comic-Con@Home runs until July 26 and Deadline will be beaming you coverage the whole time.


So...basically this...

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[neatoman]

So we're literally going to have five Star Trek shows going on at the same time with at least three different target audiences in mind? I know DS9 started when TNG was winding down and went onfor most of VOY's run but there was still only two shows going on at the same time and all three still had a shared target audience. This is just throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks, can you really imagine an STD/LD crossover that also mixes in... Whatever the hell Nickelodeon is going to do?

That last part is something else I need to be clear on. What the hell is Prodigy actually about? All we found out here is that it'll be CGI but no substantial info on the concept. Is it a classic "to boldly go" show? A political drama like DS9? A comedy like LD? Will it take place in the Archer era? The Kirk era? The Picard era? Further in the future?

There's nothing to go on here.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It can't be any worse than that godawful Kirk and Morty bull$hit.

[newfan]

That's why I found myself wondering why the new show is 2D when I thought it was going to be CGI, a different show. Meh, not sure I care about either, I still haven't watched any Discovery.

[Andrew NDB]

Man, Star Trek desperately needs a "win." This won't be it.

Even Star Wars has "The Mandalorian." In the cesspool that is Pike (yes, it's a fine cast and the guy is a decent Pike but you KNOW they will just screw it up and further muck up the TOS era), STD season 3 (that will probably have Burnham become captain and valiantly restore the 32nd century Federation amidst LGBTQ rights and crying and screaming, explosions), the Section 31 show no one wants (and probably won't even happen, thankfully), literally the ONLY thing Star Trek fans can look forward to is the off chance not that Picard season 2 will be good, but maybe it won't be as awful as season 1. That's it.

[neatoman]

Yeah, about the Discovery being stranded in the 32nd century. It sounds like it would have been decent concept... If horseshit characters nobody likes weren't the center of it. And from the looks of it, the Pike show or the Section 31 show looks like they'll be inheriting the plotlines from STD season 1-2 while the Discovery crew is off doing who gives a dogshit in the far future.

It's like "Sorry for the oxshit story and the catshit characters that were a part of it, we'll have you know that the crappy storyline will have new main characters while the crappy characters will have a new story arc to follow. Because branching garbage is how you fix it!".

I don't care what's happening to Discovery in the future or how Pike will deal with the baggage it left behind. The Rick and Morty style farce coming up is sadly more interesting than this, at least the absurdity there is intentional.

[Andrew NDB]

I admit, I want to be proven wrong about STD season 3. Maybe there's something there. Like it's an even older Dax there (we see Trill heavy in the trailer) and a more coherent story. There is absolutely no reason to be optimistic but I will give it a chance.

[Leo656]

Part of why I never went more than toe-deep into Trek is being overwhelmed by the sheer volume of content. That feeling began for me in... like, 1993?

The franchise is ten times bigger now and most of what I've seen of what's been coming out in recent years looks awful. This is why although I have an appreciation for Trek, the movies and the Original Series is all I've ever been able to commit to. :ohwell: Part of me is interested in getting more into the "universe" but it seems frustrating and pointless.

I already own and have seen all the films and the Original Series, as well as the original animated series. Hypothetically speaking, if I was curious about getting a little deeper into the franchise but didn't want anymore gray hair, what should I pursue? What's the "Good Trek"? I assume "The Next Generation", and I like the few episodes I've seen with that and I even liked the films, mostly. I'm well aware even as a neophyte that the films do a poor job of representing TNG, I just like the cast and think they elevate the material in the films which would be weak if played by lesser actors.

But anything else? There's like 80 shows I've never seen. Probably not going to ever get into the novels or comics. So what would you say someone like me would think is "Good Trek"? What should I pursue and what's better for me to completely ignore? Seems like "Anything after the year 2000 is Ignore", but anything else you can give me?

[Galactus]

Man, Star Trek desperately needs a "win." This won't be it.

Even Star Wars has "The Mandalorian." In the cesspool that is Pike (yes, it's a fine cast and the guy is a decent Pike but you KNOW they will just screw it up and further muck up the TOS era), STD season 3 (that will probably have Burnham become captain and valiantly restore the 32nd century Federation amidst LGBTQ rights and crying and screaming, explosions), the Section 31 show no one wants (and probably won't even happen, thankfully), literally the ONLY thing Star Trek fans can look forward to is the off chance not that Picard season 2 will be good, but maybe it won't be as awful as season 1. That's it.

Thing is everyone seems to be happy with Discovery and Picard's ratings. As far as Paramount, CBS and anyone who stands to make money out of the Star Trek brand is concerned these are wins.

Yes, they are clearly not for you (and I'm not a huge fan of them for very different reasons than you've stated) but clearly there is an audience for it.

Part of why I never went more than toe-deep into Trek is being overwhelmed by the sheer volume of content. That feeling began for me in... like, 1993

Next Generation season 3 onwards. It's that simple.

Deep Space Nine conceptually means it's harder to simply jump in at any point or skip to the good stuff like you can with the other 90s - 2000s shows but if you can just watch the pilot and a handful of recommended episodes and then skip to season 4 on wards you'll enjoy it.

Voyager all you need to know is that they are stranded so far away from the Federation it will take them a lifetime to get back so you can start anywhere with that show. Most people think it picks up in quality in season 4 with the inclusion of Seven of Nine but you can also start at the beginning, it's a generally a blander show than the ones that preceded it which means (other than Threshold) never reaches the heights or lows of the others...you personally might want to skip on the episode the Rock guest stars.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I concur with the majority of what Galactus said, though I'd start a tad earlier on DS9, like season 2. And pretty much all of Voyager, because a lot of their early interactions with Delta Quadrant races set the stage for the later seasons' conflicts. And It's fun to watch the Doctor's character arc from the beginning.

As for TNG, I DO recommend the pilot Encounter at Farpoint, if only for Q's introduction, and how it sets the tone and premise for the entire series. A few eps from the first two seasons, at least, before diving headfirst into 3. Do a little of your own digging to find the best ones, as I can't recall offhand which wps were in what season anymore. BUT! If you watch ANY episodes at all, make sure The Inner Light is one of them. And All Good Things, DataLore, and Q Who. Hose are some of my personal faves, as well as pretty much any Q episode,but I admit to having a bit of a bias in his favor....

[ZariusTwo]

Voyager all you need to know is that they are stranded so far away from the Federation it will take them a lifetime to get back so you can start anywhere with that show. Most people think it picks up in quality in season 4 with the inclusion of Seven of Nine.

It was far more interesting before Seven joined

[Leo656]

I probably should have mentioned that I'm not a Season-Skipper, and if I watch a show it's all of it. Just a personal choice.

Like for example, I'm aware most people hate early TNG, but eh. I'm willing to put up with it. Also - and I can't entirely explain this - but I do have an awkward crush on Tasha Yar so at least there's SOMEthing. :trazz:

But yeah I don't skip around. Never know, I might have more patience for some stuff than other people have. Plus, there's always character stuff to entertain me. I like the cast, a good cast can make me forgive bad writing. Sometimes.

Helps if there's hot chicks. :lol:

you personally might want to skip on the episode the Rock guest stars.

The man pays attention! :lol: I hate that guy! :lol:

I'll survive, though. "Get Smart" wasn't a bad movie. I lived. :trazz:

It was far more interesting before Seven joined

Even supposing that is true, and I have no way of knowing for sure... but even if so, my penis would find the show to be infinitely more interesting AFTER she shows up. And He's The Boss, nah'mean? :lol:


Anyways, thanks, those are kinda what I assumed people would recommend. Sounds like literally anything "modern" is just junk based on everything I've seen, although I don't hate the Abrams movies as much as some. I totally get what's wrong with them but they're not horrible action movies. I had a good time I just don't know when I'd ever watch 'em again.

[ZariusTwo]

I probably should have mentioned that I'm not a Season-Skipper, and if I watch a show it's all of it. Just a personal choice.

Like for example, I'm aware most people hate early TNG, but eh. I'm willing to put up with it. Also - and I can't entirely explain this - but I do have an awkward crush on Tasha Yar so at least there's SOMEthing. :trazz:

Early TNG ain't exactly the pits, there's some choice stories in both seasons one and two, many of which have thankfully been acknowledged as such by the fanbase...also it was much darker back then too, an edge that the later seasons somewhat softened a bit.

Even supposing that is true, and I have no way of knowing for sure... but even if so, my penis would find the show to be infinitely more interesting AFTER she shows up. And He's The Boss, nah'mean? :lol:

Well, yeah, if you're watching the boob tube for just...well..that, then that'll have the appeal. Her predecessor Kes only became a hottie mid-way through season three...interestingly, Seven only becomes desirable to look at about a minute after Kes leaves!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Part of why I never went more than toe-deep into Trek is being overwhelmed by the sheer volume of content. That feeling began for me in... like, 1993?

The franchise is ten times bigger now and most of what I've seen of what's been coming out in recent years looks awful. This is why although I have an appreciation for Trek, the movies and the Original Series is all I've ever been able to commit to. :ohwell: Part of me is interested in getting more into the "universe" but it seems frustrating and pointless.

I already own and have seen all the films and the Original Series, as well as the original animated series. Hypothetically speaking, if I was curious about getting a little deeper into the franchise but didn't want anymore gray hair, what should I pursue? What's the "Good Trek"? I assume "The Next Generation", and I like the few episodes I've seen with that and I even liked the films, mostly. I'm well aware even as a neophyte that the films do a poor job of representing TNG, I just like the cast and think they elevate the material in the films which would be weak if played by lesser actors.

But anything else? There's like 80 shows I've never seen. Probably not going to ever get into the novels or comics. So what would you say someone like me would think is "Good Trek"? What should I pursue and what's better for me to completely ignore? Seems like "Anything after the year 2000 is Ignore", but anything else you can give me?

I'd say go for the best first.

Deep Space Nine

Then The Next Generation and its movies, then Voyager (because 24th century), then circle back around to Enterprise.

[Galactus]

There are definite decent episodes episodes in the first two TNG seasons but I don't think they are necessary to understanding the series. The premise is in the opening titles. I suppose it would be good to understand who Q and Lore are since they crop up later in the series as well as the Traveller.

DS9's first two seasons...I mean they are nowhere near as bad as TNG's (apart from Move Along Home) but it does have some good episodes and ones important to understanding the whole series.

I'd advocate watching The Emissary, Duet, In The Hands of the Prophets, The Homecoming, The Circle, The Siege...man you know what? Screw it just watch the whole thing. The first season may be a chore but as long as someone assures you'll get to the good stuff eventually you'll hold out.

It was far more interesting before Seven joined

A definite step up in quality yes, but I wouldn't go as far to say it's a complete reinvention of a series.

[newfan]

Hmm, I'd do a poll for favourite Trek series but think for most of you it would be Next Gen, if I did worst it might likely be Discovery (unless the disappointment in Picard runs deep enough for some of you to rate it after that?) So might not be worth it :)

Of the older shows, Deep Space 9 might be my least watched, Voyager not far behind. Watched a proportion of them though.

[Leo656]

Oh. OH! Another important thing, please smarten me up on Chicks To Watch Out For.

For example, if I knew about Dr. Crusher I probably would'a watched TNG when it was fresh and now I feel like a f*ckin' idiot. I know everybody talks about Troi but Crusher's a smokin' little pistol, too. What the f*ck, man, I rely on you people to tell me these things in advance!

...My sensibilities may not be the same as some Trek fans, I feel. But rest assured this is an important factor in my process. :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh. OH! Another important thing, please smarten me up on Chicks To Watch Out For.

For example, if I knew about Dr. Crusher I probably would'a watched TNG when it was fresh and now I feel like a f*ckin' idiot. I know everybody talks about Troi but Crusher's a smokin' little pistol, too. What the f*ck, man, I rely on you people to tell me these things in advance!

...My sensibilities may not be the same as some Trek fans, I feel. But rest assured this is an important factor in my process. :lol:

You animal, you. :tlol: Each show has at least one.

T'Pol for Enterprise;
Jadzia and Kira for DS9;
Seven and Torres for VOY;
Troi and Crusher for TNG

[Vegita-San]

Oh. OH! Another important thing, please smarten me up on Chicks To Watch Out For.

For example, if I knew about Dr. Crusher I probably would'a watched TNG when it was fresh and now I feel like a f*ckin' idiot. I know everybody talks about Troi but Crusher's a smokin' little pistol, too. What the f*ck, man, I rely on you people to tell me these things in advance!

...My sensibilities may not be the same as some Trek fans, I feel. But rest assured this is an important factor in my process. :lol:

I was always a troi, pre fake boob, person.

Crusher to me only looked good in the first episode and last season. the rest a little on the weird side oddly.

as for DS9, Jadzia is the most perfect woman ;o).

[Andrew NDB]

Thing is everyone seems to be happy with Discovery and Picard's ratings. As far as Paramount, CBS and anyone who stands to make money out of the Star Trek brand is concerned these are wins.

No, it's not clear at all if they're happy with the ratings or not because they don't release them. There was a lot of scuttlebutt that STD season 3's finale was re-jiggered to be a series finale, so we'll see. And Picard season 2 was greenlit before season 1 even came out.

Seven and Torres for VOY;

Torres, absolutely. But strangely only in her Klingon hair & makeup. I've seen her "normal" and it's... meh. Never had a thing for Seven. Jadzia, sure. T'Pol, absolutely.

[Galactus]

No, it's not clear at all if they're happy with the ratings or not because they don't release them. There was a lot of scuttlebutt that STD season 3's finale was re-jiggered to be a series finale, so we'll see. And Picard season 2 was greenlit before season 1 even came out.

Do CBS All Access release the ratings of any of their shows? I'd imagine if they were displeased we wouldn't have gotten a season 2 regardless of when they announced it nor would we be getting a spin off. There's only so much money a company will throw at saving face.

Torres, absolutely. But strangely only in her Klingon hair & makeup. I've seen her "normal" and it's... meh. Never had a thing for Seven. Jadzia, sure.

People always forget Hoshi. She was always designed to be the inoffensive cute one but her actress was pretty hot when glammed up. We got a taste of that in the final season with the Mirror Universe Empress Hoshi. I must admit I wished we got another season just for a follow up to that episode. Plus if they wanted to carry on DS9's tradition of making every female character in the mirror universe a promiscuous lesbian I'd have been fine with that.

Also I'd take Roxanne Dawson with or without Klingon makeup but weirdly I'd prefer she keep it on. Then again I always preferred the K'ehlar actress in the make up too.

I also kind of preferred Seven of Nine and Kira in Starfleet uniforms than their cat suits. What is wrong with me I'm sick.

[neatoman]

Hey, so is it going to make for amusing headlines when when parents look up "Star Trek cartoon" for their kids and show them Lower Decks instead of Prodigy by accident?
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[Andrew NDB]

Do CBS All Access release the ratings of any of their shows?

No, not at all.

I'd imagine if they were displeased we wouldn't have gotten a season 2 regardless of when they announced it nor would we be getting a spin off. There's only so much money a company will throw at saving face.

And if the rumors are true about STD season 3, then we know they've reached the end of it for THAT show.

STP, even if it is hurting ratings-wise, it is cheaper than STD for them to make. Apparently STD season 3 stole a bunch of the budget from STP season 1 (!!!), too... it shows.

People always forget Hoshi. She was always designed to be the inoffensive cute one but her actress was pretty hot when glammed up.

Oh, how could I forget Hoshi. Yeah, she was fairly mesmerizing to me.

Also I'd take Roxanne Dawson with or without Klingon makeup but weirdly I'd prefer she keep it on.

Right?

[neatoman]

Why would CBS All Access (or any other streaming service for that matter) ever release official ratings? It's far easier to tell the public a show is successful if they can't see evidence that it ain't.

[Galactus]

And if the rumors are true about STD season 3, then we know they've reached the end of it for THAT show.

STP, even if it is hurting ratings-wise, it is cheaper than STD for them to make. Apparently STD season 3 stole a bunch of the budget from STP season 1 (!!!), too... it shows.

We'll see but I can't help but think back to the rumours that Picard had been cancelled and wasn't going to happening

Why would CBS All Access (or any other streaming service for that matter) ever release official ratings? It's far easier to tell the public a show is successful if they can't see evidence that it ain't.


I can appreciate the argument that they want to save face but there's only so much a major corporation is going to throw money at to do it. Three seasons and a spin off sounds like complete overkill.

Why on earth would they continue to pump out that no one watches and make no money?

[Andrew NDB]

We'll see but I can't help but think back to the rumours that Picard had been cancelled and wasn't going to happening

Never read any such rumors. Particularly because, again... it was "renewed" before it ever aired. There wasn't ever a pocket of time where it could be "cancelled."

I can appreciate the argument that they want to save face but there's only so much a major corporation is going to throw money at to do it. Three seasons and a spin off sounds like complete overkill.

STD has no spinoffs, atm. Section 31, if it happens. Seems like its quietly (and fortunately) taken a dirt nap, though. "Strange New Worlds".... eugh... well, we'll see.

[neatoman]

I can appreciate the argument that they want to save face but there's only so much a major corporation is going to throw money at to do it. Three seasons and a spin off sounds like complete overkill.

Why on earth would they continue to pump out that no one watches and make no money?

I was being more general, not necessarily talking about STD. There are streaming shows out there that never get renewed or fake renewed, but are still being marketed as successful despite only getting the initially ordered episodes.

[Andrew NDB]

Who else had no idea that Terry Farrell is married to Adam Nimoy (son of Leonard)?

[neatoman]

Who else had no idea that Terry Farrell is married to Adam Nimoy (son of Leonard)?

I didn't but I also don't care enough about the private lives of people I don't know personally to look up something like that. I had no idea that Johnny Depp was married to the chick who played Mera in the Aquaman movie, until someone told me about her abusing him.

[Leo656]

You are such a lucky man.

I have a wife, so... I get constant updates on what's going on with famous people whether I give a sh*t or not. And I generally really, really don't. And I make that clear, but... apparently it's a rule that if you're married you gotta put up with that sh*t.

Her: "Oh, man, did you hear _______ got married/divorced/died?"
Me: "Huh. Well, I didn't know 'em."
Her: "You are such an asshole!"

I don't know why "Not Caring About Rich People You Never Met" is a crime, but... apparently if you're married it's a big one. Seems crazy to me!

[Andrew NDB]

I mean, I'm curious within reason. If Patrick Stewart suddenly got divorced and married some 20 year-old, I'd probably look up a couple of articles. "Patrick Stewart reveals his favorite book!" kind of stuff, no, I don't care. Jadzia Dax marrying the son of Spock rates, for me.

[ZariusTwo]

Janeway is back

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[Andrew NDB]

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

https://i.ibb.co/3f34ndd/121118470-10225422179807178-7424110412383995926-o.jpg

I'd argue that Discovery actually made Pike interesting in that Tenavik the Timekeeper episode, with the time crystal on Boreth. But it's not hard to get more interesting than "beep boop" in a wheelchair. :tlol:

[Andrew NDB]

I'd argue that Discovery actually made Pike interesting in that Tenavik the Timekeeper episode, with the time crystal on Boreth.

That was one episode. But oh, don't worry... if "Strange New Worlds" actually happens (and I kind of doubt it will) it's not like shrieking, crying women are going to go away. Number One will (be forced to) fill that role, probably constantly demeaning him or otherwise displaying how much smarter she is than him.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

That was one episode. But oh, don't worry... if "Strange New Worlds" actually happens (and I kind of doubt it will) it's not like shrieking, crying women are going to go away. Number One will (be forced to) fill that role, probably constantly demeaning him or otherwise displaying how much smarter she is than him.

Agreed, it was only the one episode.

I was really hoping to like Number One (it's RR, how could we not!?) and in the end, she did nothing.

[Andrew NDB]

I was really hoping to like Number One (it's RR, how could we not!?) and in the end, she did nothing.

Yeah, she kind of just "pops" into the season, here and there. And the less said about the second batch of "Short Treks" the better... yeesh. In any case she was very misused, though maybe that's a blessing (depending on how they intend to utilize her). Not to advocate more prequel crap, but I was also hoping to see that doctor guy from "The Cage" that was trying to get Pike drunk.

[neatoman]

I guess the nice thing about this show is that, because it'll air on a children's network like Nickelodeon instead of being put on a subscription service, is that it won't end being... Well... Like this...
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Sadly I didn't find a clip of the species re-assignment surgery from STD and the LD clip is forgiveable given the context but you get the idea. No excessive, frequent gore in a kids' cartoon.

[neatoman]

Some character descriptions surfaced. The weird thing is that since all of these are adults and the main characters are confirmed to be kids, they are clearly not about the main characters. Weird to have the supporting characters described but not the main cast, huh?

https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2020/12/01/star-trek-prodigy-characters/

[Roseangelo]

Doctor Torgo? Seriously?

https://fastly.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2018/04/torgo_header.png

[ZariusTwo]

Billy Campbell will reprise his role of Thadiun 'Outrageous' Okona

https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2021/02/16/billy-campbell-star-trek-prodigy/

[Andrew NDB]

First look:

https://www.startrek.com/news/breaking-star-trek-prodigy-first-look?fbclid=IwAR2AANLjC_Eg7Jl6YkQstcxRaS-CIZRi7XQk_5N0O9pco74qkddDJyWWesg

Blegh.

[neatoman]

I managed to get a higher resolution image.
https://intl.startrek.com/sites/default/files/images/2021-02/prodigy_bridge_crew.jpg

Ugly, and it reminds me of Star Wars Rebels for some reason.

[Andrew NDB]

You can already imagine the stereotypical SJW archetypes each one will fill.

[CyberCubed]

I'm amazed Star Trek managed to go on so long without children shows like these. Honestly thinking about it I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, it was probably just a matter of time.

[NinjaPug]

I managed to get a higher resolution image.
https://intl.startrek.com/sites/default/files/images/2021-02/prodigy_bridge_crew.jpg

Ugly, and it reminds me of Star Wars Rebels for some reason.

Yeah my first thought was that this looks like a Star Wars cartoon and not Trek

[CyberCubed]

None of those characters look like Star Trek aliens. They look more like characters from the next Disney/Pixar movie than anything.

[neatoman]

The one prop I can give to these designs is that they take advantage of the whole cartoon thing and doesn't make any of them human. That's probably the weakest aspect of live-action Trek, that the galaxy allegedly has thousands of civilizations in the Alpha Quadrant alone, yet nearly all the main characters are human and those who aren't look just like humans except for like pointy ears or wrinkly noses or some other small detail that won't give the make up department nightmares.

Beyond that, this art style is really ugly. It just looks kind of off-putting and awkward.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

None of those characters look like Star Trek aliens. They look more like characters from the next Disney/Pixar movie than anything.

God, I ****ing hate it when you're right...

I managed to get a higher resolution image.
https://intl.startrek.com/sites/default/files/images/2021-02/prodigy_bridge_crew.jpg

Ugly, and it reminds me of Star Wars Rebels for some reason.

You're right, and you're right.

First look:

https://www.startrek.com/news/breaking-star-trek-prodigy-first-look?fbclid=IwAR2AANLjC_Eg7Jl6YkQstcxRaS-CIZRi7XQk_5N0O9pco74qkddDJyWWesg

Blegh.

**** this ****.

[Jester]

I'm amazed Star Trek managed to go on so long without children shows like these. Honestly thinking about it I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, it was probably just a matter of time.
Filmation's Star Trek: The Animated Series was, I assume, for kids. Then again, Trek's always been a series for the whole family...until the Dark Time.

[Leo656]

Huge M'ress fan from age three. No shame. :lol:

I watched that show every weekday morning on Nickelodeon back then, no kiddin'. Then at night I'd watch the actual Trek show on WPIX 11 with my Mom. You'd think I'd be more of a Trek fan, given all that. ((shrug))

[Jester]

I remember watching Trek with my mom growing up too.

It and Buffy...so there's that lil chestnut.

[Andrew NDB]

They've "debuted" what Janeway looks like in this:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/star-trek-prodigy-reveals-a-first-look-at-captain-jane-1846622770

So... OK. I'm gathering that this show is just about a bunch of Delta Quadrant miscreants screwing around, who somehow tap into a hologram recreation of Janeway from during her trip through it.

[Leo656]

At least it's not "Fat Granny" Janeway. :lol: Mulgrew's lookin' pretty rough these days. Whoof.

Man, when some people let themselves go, they let themselves REALLY go.

[TigerClaw]

They've "debuted" what Janeway looks like in this:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/star-trek-prodigy-reveals-a-first-look-at-captain-jane-1846622770

So... OK. I'm gathering that this show is just about a bunch of Delta Quadrant miscreants screwing around, who somehow tap into a hologram recreation of Janeway from during her trip through it.
She looks good though.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyPZuYRXIAo65iW?format=jpg&name=small

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/efzdmcodgzghfejcgp5s.png

[neatoman]

So... OK. I'm gathering that this show is just about a bunch of Delta Quadrant miscreants screwing around, who somehow tap into a hologram recreation of Janeway from during her trip through it.

I'm gonna guess Janeway was chosen as the ETH template because it was designed for the Delta Quadrant, as she's the ideal candidate because she's the only Captain to be familiar with the quadrant.

She looks good though.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyPZuYRXIAo65iW?format=jpg&name=small

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/efzdmcodgzghfejcgp5s.png

In a still maybe but you can clearly see it's lower budget CGI. Trying to replicate a human realistically while on a smaller bugdet won't look good in motion. When you see this model in action, it's probably going to look kind of plastic.

[Andrew NDB]

So Janeway is, in fact, an "emergency training hologram."

https://www.startrek.com/news/meet-your-star-trek-prodigy-cast?fbclid=IwAR2VenEfXbw974jyrejUP78Zlyjb1A8oPiHp 1QWtfebBQoxou9JfzrCwQX4

[CyberCubed]

What year or time period is the show set in? Janeway might be dead by this time.

[Galactus]

This is a weird premise for a show.

[neatoman]

What year or time period is the show set in? Janeway might be dead by this time.

2383, so five years after Voyager, the real Janeway is almost certainly still alive.

[Andrew NDB]

Let the first two episodes play while I carved a pumpkin. Great cutesy CGI. Like if a cheaper Pixar did the Star Wars Clone Wars series, but with MCU Guardians of the Galaxy-type characters in the Abrams-verse of Star Trek. Complete with a very 2009 Abrams music score and a very 2009 Abrams looking starship. And a couple of characters designed with the hope that one of them might be the next Baby Yoda. Nonstop action and explosions.

This has nothing to do with Star Trek in any way, shape or form. This is just crate training for little kids who like GotG to hopefully one day watch something horrible like STD.

[TigerClaw]

Let the first two episodes play while I carved a pumpkin. Great cutesy CGI. Like if a cheaper Pixar did the Star Wars Clone Wars series, but with MCU Guardians of the Galaxy-type characters in the Abrams-verse of Star Trek. Complete with a very 2009 Abrams music score and a very 2009 Abrams looking starship. And a couple of characters designed with the hope that one of them might be the next Baby Yoda. Nonstop action and explosions.

This has nothing to do with Star Trek in any way, shape or form. This is just crate training for little kids who like GotG to hopefully one day watch something horrible like STD.
The show also takes place in the Delta Quadrant, The section of Space that was explored in Voyager. So there's a lot of potential to explore many other territories that Voyager never got to.

[Andrew NDB]

The show also takes place in the Delta Quadrant, The section of Space that was explored in Voyager. So there's a lot of potential to explore many other territories that Voyager never got to.

This isn't a show about exploration. It's Guardians of the Galaxy with more explosions and big action.

[Vegita-San]

Damn. I'll say it felt nice to have something that at least TRIED to feel like Star Trek again. First e pisode of prodigy was a pleasant surprise. Likeable characters, interesting mystery...and didn't insult me, even with the 'non male/female' life form. that actually made sense.

Hope they have a good reason why an NX class star s hip was there, with a janeway wearing a pre end series uniform.


also, arn't tellarites a alpha species?

[neatoman]

Damn. I'll say it felt nice to have something that at least TRIED to feel like Star Trek again. First e pisode of prodigy was a pleasant surprise. Likeable characters, interesting mystery...and didn't insult me, even with the 'non male/female' life form. that actually made sense.

Hope they have a good reason why an NX class star s hip was there, with a janeway wearing a pre end series uniform.


also, arn't tellarites a alpha species?

I've watched all the episodes so far, and there are already answers to two of your questions:


The ship has a prototype engine using a miniturised beginings of a star (so like that thing Doc Ock tried to make in Spider-Man 2 I guess), which makes it way faster than most other warp vessels.
The Tellarite travelled to the Delta Quadrant in suspended animation.

[neatoman]

Alright, so I noticed a weird thing in the latest episode. The translators stop working but Dal can still communicate with Janeway (the real one) because he speaks "basic". Has a language called "basic" ever been established in Star Trek before or that Janeway can speak it? I know the English language (or what's "translated" into English for the benefit of the audience) is called "basic" in Star Wars because it doesn't make sense for that language to be called English. But Janeway is from Earth, the United States to be more precise, and the reliance on translators always made me think the human characters in Star Trek were just speaking English or at least their own languages.

[Jester]

I've seen ads for the season 1 vol 1 DVD on Facebook. It calls it the first Star Trek for kids. I mentioned how I'm disappointed New Trek isn't still for all ages unlike Next Gen, DS9, and Voyager which I watched with my mom growing up and got some push back. Mentioned my major objections are the "colorful metaphors." People in the comments on a Star Trek series didn't get the reference and asked me 'WTF are colorful metaphors?"

[CyberCubed]

It's basically aimed at the same age group Star Wars: The Clone Wars cartoon was. Basically it's an action show for kids, but it's not really dumbed down. The CG and character designs of the aliens also look like they stepped right out of the Star Wars Clone Wars cartoon.

The fact that the real Janeway shows up in this and not just the hologram version is why I got interested in this, it basically starts off as a kids show then becomes a full fledged sequel to Voyager halfway through. Apparently the directors already confirmed Season 2 will bring back more Voyager characters too.

If you're a fan of Voyager or Janeway in general, I'd say it's worth a watch.

[Autbot_Benz]

It's been Cancelled
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STAR TREK: PRODIGY shocker -- in a surprising turn, the animated series has been cancelled at Paramount+ and will be removed from the streamer sometime soon

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[ZariusTwo]

Beat me to it, rofl.

Post-production of season two will be completed and from there the studios will shop the show around to rival networks

https://deadline.com/2023/06/grease-rise-of-the-pink-ladies-star-trek-prodigy-the-game-queen-of-the-universe-canceled-paramount-1235423451/

[Andrew NDB]

Not only cancelled but REMOVED from Paramount+ entirely? It must have been doing really bad!

But good. OK, Prodigy cancelled, Discovery cancelled... it seems like we're a little closer to Kurtzman's head rolling, at least.

[neatoman]

Damn… I guess that technically makes Lower Decks the most successful of these shows?

[Andrew NDB]

And wow... I mean, Paramount+ it boasts itself as the one place you can watch ALL Star Trek shows, and now that's not even going to be the case anymore because their new stuff did so bad it would cost them money just keeping the pre-existing episodes floating on the air! lol, great stuff.

[Vegita-San]

Not only cancelled but REMOVED from Paramount+ entirely? It must have been doing really bad!

But good. OK, Prodigy cancelled, Discovery cancelled... it seems like we're a little closer to Kurtzman's head rolling, at least.

it actually felt like old school star trek. probably thanks to the tmnt 2k3 staff working on it. the only modern star trek I like.

[Andrew NDB]

it actually felt like old school star trek.

I honestly can't fathom how you would get that from it. Like, at all. On almost any level.

[Vegita-San]

I honestly can't fathom how you would get that from it. Like, at all. On almost any level.

compared to the OTHER shows they've put out? I was the least offended by it.
and i'm talking prodigy, not lower Drecks.

[ZariusTwo]

Prodigy is a good sequel to Voyager, even if it's aimed at a younger audience and rips off Space Cases so blatantly Peter David should be able to comfortably pay all his medical bills by suing them.

[CyberCubed]

I liked Prodigy when I marathoned all 20 episodes at 1.5x speed last year.

An upside to this is I hope it convinces Kate Mulgrew to come to live-action Star Trek. If she was recording her voice for this show and it's over soon, hopefully she sticks with the franchise. Let her show up for a few guest roles on 7 of 9's upcoming series if we get it.

[ZariusTwo]

A clip from season two was shared by the official site

https://intl.startrek.com/videos/star-trek-prodigy-season-2-first-look

The Doctor greets the kids and takes them to the Voyager-A

[CyberCubed]

Finally. I knew he would be back eventually. I bet we'll see cameos from Tuvok as well.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/8RWjT1x.png

[Andrew NDB]

Terrible news.

[ZariusTwo]

Terrible news.

How is it terrible? It's a good show

[Vegita-San]

How is it terrible? It's a good show

done b y the tmnt 2003 crowd, no less. so kurtzman probably did not have much to do with it.

[TigerClaw]

Star Trek: Prodigy is a show that was exclusively made for Nickelodeon, With its removal from Paramount+, They are treating it like it doesn't exist, Because I remember when they did the whole Star Trek Day thing, There was no mention about it when it came to animated Star Trek shows, Like they only talked about Star Trek: The Animated Series and Lower Decks, and no mention of Prodigy what's so ever.

[Andrew NDB]

Maybe I'm too harsh on it, but I watched the first... 2 or 3 episodes, and there was certainly no Trek to be found in it. Maybe it got "better" later on, but I can't imagine with that cast, that roundup of characters.

[CyberCubed]

Technically the show is still over/canceled. It's just that Paramount+ did not want to air Season 2 for whatever reason. But Season 2 was already in production and planned when the show first started.

I doubt there will be any more after, this is just finding a home for the remainder of the series.

[Andrew NDB]

Technically the show is still over/canceled. It's just that Paramount+ did not want to air Season 2 for whatever reason. But Season 2 was already in production and planned when the show first started.

I doubt there will be any more after, this is just finding a home for the remainder of the series.

It's technically possible that if Netflix puts season 1 and then 2 on there, they do REALLY well, that they could fund a third season.

[Andrew NDB]

Boy, not only did Netflix not do a season 3 but now season 2 (which Netflix helped fund to complete) is not even ON Netflix anymore. Viewership must have been really, really terrible.

Incidentally I am giving this show another chance. It does get a bit better after the seventh episode. It kind of morphs into a full-on Voyager sequel. It's just... with a bunch of main characters that look and act like they came off the set of Monsters, Inc..

[neatoman]

I'm not exactly surprised that this show didn't do well, I think even Lower Decks might be more popular than this.

[IMJ]

Think about the post-Enterprise "universe" boxed set of content they could sell on 4k disc - like a tremendous boxed set like Star Wars but starting with basically Discovery through now!

I'd bet that would sell a million copies!