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Autbot_Benz
08-22-2020, 02:16 PM
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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2020, 02:26 PM
Huh. This is gonna be weird.

Autbot_Benz
08-22-2020, 02:29 PM
Peter Capaldi as The Thinker is gonna be awesome.

Andrew NDB
08-22-2020, 02:51 PM
Odd that they want to market it like the Birds of Prey movie.

Autbot_Benz
08-22-2020, 02:54 PM
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Leo656
08-22-2020, 03:30 PM
Mongal before we've even had Mongul show up. :lol: Oh, WB. You can't do anything right.

Pete Davidson AND John Cena? Ugh. I might not see this.

TigerClaw
08-22-2020, 04:06 PM
John Cene plays a character from the comics called Peacemaker. He's described as a douchey Captain America.

AquaParade
08-22-2020, 04:49 PM
This looks super fun. Don't go into it attempting to relate to or even like these characters. That's probably not the point. Or if it is, they'll prob win you over, cause Gunn is pretty good at this stuff.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2020, 05:04 PM
I'm not sure about this movie, but such a large cast does seem to line up with this being the DC equivalent of "Dirty Dozen."

And I am totally down for seeing 9 or 10 of these guys bite the dust. A REAL Suicide Squad.

Could be good.

Shark_Blade
08-22-2020, 11:09 PM
Of course I’m excited for this.

Leo656
08-22-2020, 11:19 PM
I'm not sure about this movie, but such a large cast does seem to line up with this being the DC equivalent of "Dirty Dozen."

And I am totally down for seeing 9 or 10 of these guys bite the dust. A REAL Suicide Squad.

Could be good.

With a group of losers like THAT I'd be amazed if anyone BUT Harley made it to the closing credits, frankly. :lol: I mean, we know she's not gonna kick off because she has 80 more movies coming out. But f*cking Polka-Dot man? Good grief!

And again, can't wait to hear why we have a Mongal when neither Mongul or WarWorld have ever even been whispered of in this continuity whatsoever. I'm sure it'll be a completely satisfying explanation that makes a ton of logical sense, and will in NO way be anything like "We needed another chick, just pulled a name out of a hat". :trazz: No WAY that THAT'S what happened, there.

Like, why not more Katana? We could have used WAY more Katana than what we had, and she's established. I would've been all over that. Eh.

We'll see. I kinda think it looks like piss but I like the idea of the Squad and I like that they're willing to give them another chance at a movie. Just not seeing much to get excited about.

AquaParade
08-22-2020, 11:24 PM
Normally the aesthetic and tone would potentially turn me off. And I don't actually care for the Guardians films all that much, though I recognize their quality.

But what excites me about this film has everything to do with the production. The fact that James Gunn took the job while everyone was *gunning* for him (it has begun) indicates he was able to maintain a ton of creative control. They're letting him go R, he seems excited, the characters and actors are expendable.
It's just got the right kind of quality ingredients you want in a product of this magnitude. It's a clear labor of love and creativity.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2020, 11:29 PM
With a group of losers like THAT I'd be amazed if anyone BUT Harley made it to the closing credits, frankly. :lol: I mean, we know she's not gonna kick off because she has 80 more movies coming out. But f*cking Polka-Dot man? Good grief!

Like, why not more Katana? We could have used WAY more Katana than what we had, and she's established. I would've been all over that. Eh.

We'll see. I kinda think it looks like piss but I like the idea of the Squad and I like that they're willing to give them another chance at a movie. Just not seeing much to get excited about.

I'm not excited for much about this film either, though I am really interested in seeing Capaldi and Elba in it. I love both of those actors.

And I'm also excited to see most of these losers die a horrible death. I mean, it's supposed to be a SUICIDE SQUAD. (Apparently, nobody told David Ayer.)

And yeah, Harley survives, Waller survives, and maybe Idris Elba and/or Rick Flag. Maybe King Shark?

But what excites me about this film has everything to do with the production. The fact that James Gunn took the job while everyone was *gunning* for him (it has begun) indicates he was able to maintain a ton of creative control. They're letting him go R, he seems excited, the characters and actors are expendable.

Is it actually going to be R-rated? I know it was discussed a lot in theory...

Leo656
08-22-2020, 11:37 PM
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, I actually popped for Bloodsport. Deep cuts!

One would hope that he survives, just because we haven't seen him fight Superman yet and that's his whole entire gimmick. Of course, we've seen how much THAT kinda thing matters in these movies... like when Black Mask and Zsasz get killed off in their first appearances by a bunch of characters they generally never interact with at all. :tgrumble:

But yeah, Bloodsport got a reaction out of me. Which was then replaced by a reaction of "UGH!" that inevitably follows whenever I see John f*cking Cena's face. :lol:

But yeah they had me for like, a second. :trazz:

AquaParade
08-22-2020, 11:41 PM
Actually maybe R isn't confirmed. My b.

Coola Yagami
08-22-2020, 11:47 PM
I wonder who'll be the one that dies in the beginning. I'm sure it happened in the comic, but the animated movies and the first movie did the thing where after everything is explained, including the bomb in their neck, one of them is still like 'hell naw, I'm outta here' and gets their head blown off to prove a point. Wonder who it will be for this one.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2020, 11:55 PM
I wonder who'll be the one that dies in the beginning. I'm sure it happened in the comic, but the animated movies and the first movie did the thing where after everything is explained, including the bomb in their neck, one of them is still like 'hell naw, I'm outta here' and gets their head blown off to prove a point. Wonder who it will be for this one.

My money is on Pete Davidson.

Leo656
08-23-2020, 12:05 AM
We can only hope. :lol:

Couldn't possibly be Cena. Nobody out there loves me THAT much.

Powder
08-23-2020, 09:43 AM
Huh... Not sure what to make of it, but I'll watch. I loved the first one, but Birds of Prey was ridiculously bad, so it's a 50/50 kinda thing. Some very interesting casting choices there, half amazing, half head-scratchy. Same for the character designs, really. Gunn's done a great job with GOTG, I'm intrigued.

Note that I am not a DC guy & don't read these comics & know nothing of the characters. It'll just be a movie to me, same as the others.

Coola Yagami
08-23-2020, 10:10 AM
I just hope they kinda, explain stuff. Like did the first movie still happen, did Birds of Prey still happen, even though I think that one acts like SS did happen. IDK, woulda been less confusing if they left out Harley or re-cast her, which I know they would never do since she's too popular, but casting her here and technically saying this is a different Harley is like if they casted Leto in Joker and insisted it wasn't the same one from SS.

raph27
08-23-2020, 01:33 PM
I just hope they kinda, explain stuff. Like did the first movie still happen, did Birds of Prey still happen, even though I think that one acts like SS did happen. IDK, woulda been less confusing if they left out Harley or re-cast her, which I know they would never do since she's too popular, but casting her here and technically saying this is a different Harley is like if they casted Leto in Joker and insisted it wasn't the same one from SS.

I'm betting it'll be just like how Birds of Prey treated the original Suicide Squad movie: mostly ignore it except for one or two small nods. As far as I remember, the only outright reference in BoP was when they found the "Daddy's Lil Monster" shirt in the funhouse.

Sumac
08-23-2020, 01:57 PM
I am so ****ing tired of those semi-reboots.
Just call movie Suicide Squad 2 or Suicide Squad: Quirky Subtitle.

Leo656
08-23-2020, 07:00 PM
With Rick Flagg, Boomerang, Waller and Harley all being in it, and played by the same actors, it's pretty clear that it'll treat the first Squad movie as a case of "It happened, but it's in the past and we're really not gonna dwell on it."

It's a way to go, I guess. I just hate how many Big Plot Points and character development moments have to take place off-camera between movies just because the new director(s) don't want to touch what the old ones did. Happens everywhere nowadays. Don't these people talk to each other?

I know it's just "connective tissue", but it's important. Like, after all they showed of Harley/Joker and their "relationship" in the first movie, BoP picks it up all casual like "Oh, yeah, she left him and that's that." Geeeeeez, that's kind of too important to be a footnote in the larger story, ain't it?

I'unno. Anyways, yeah, it's clearly a sequel, but one of those "We're banking on most of you coming for Gunn's name on it because you loved GotG, and we're just gonna pretend none of you saw the first one" kinda "sequels".

I wanted more Croc and Katana. But nobody ever asks me. :trazz:

AquaParade
08-23-2020, 09:40 PM
I feel like SS isn't worth acknowledging. If the film was good, it'd be different. And I'll be honest in that this, next to JL, is the worst movie I've seen in a while, so I may be on the extreme end of the spectrum.

Andrew NDB
08-24-2020, 12:57 AM
I wanted more Croc and Katana.

And this looks to be hard R? It'd be the perfect time for them to shine. Croc going to town on people (like we never got to see in the first one) and Katana slicing people up.

Leo656
08-24-2020, 01:28 AM
That'd be awesome. They got the look for Croc absolutely perfect. Both of them, really, but Croc's look is hard to pull off. That really impressed me.

For whatever other issues it had, they really nailed the look for some of the characters in that movie. They made some strange choices all over the place but some of the costuming was absolutely on-point.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-24-2020, 09:48 AM
I, too, loved the Suicide Squad Croc and really wished we'd see him again. Apparently not here, alas.

Leo656
08-24-2020, 04:37 PM
He's too busy watching BET. :lol:

LeotheLateBloomer
08-24-2020, 05:26 PM
The first SS movie got Croc's design right but the dialogue, not so much.:lol: At least they remember that he's a guy with a bizarre skin disease as opposed to a giant mutant crocodile. There were some versions where he looked like a T-Rex.

Leo656
08-24-2020, 05:36 PM
Yeah, that's too far. I mean the "secondary mutation" bit, eh, that's interesting, but... you could tell that those specific writers just wished they had Spider-Man's Lizard to work with instead, and just reshaped "Croc" to fit their needs rather than actually trying to, y'know, write Killer Croc properly.

Autbot_Benz
10-23-2020, 12:39 PM
https://i.imgur.com/AtSYJIH.jpg

Leo656
10-23-2020, 01:57 PM
Pete Davidson is in this? Oh, GROSS. Hopefully he gets killed off first. That guy's f*cking insufferable. John Cena's bad enough but if Davidson is in the movie a lot then this one's a Hard Pass from me, dawg.

Not planning on seeing this until after I get full Spoilers. Because there's way too many people I can't stand in it and they're asking me to forgive a lot before they even get started. You can assume Cena's character survives because they have Big Plans for him (plus, John Cena :roll: You KNOW they're gonna try and get him and The Rock in the same movie sooner rather than later, so no way he bites it in this one), but I'm gonna need some of these other guys to get killed off and FAST or else I'm not gonna be able to sit through this.

As it is, it just looks... dumb. I generally do not like Gunn's movies, and this looks... like one of His Movies.

Polka-Dot Man? Seriously. C'mon.

Andrew NDB
10-23-2020, 11:47 PM
Pete Davidson is in this? Oh, GROSS. Hopefully he gets killed off first. That guy's f*cking insufferable.

Yeah, he's pretty terrible IRL.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
10-24-2020, 08:03 PM
I feel like neither Gunn nor Ayer really understand Suicide Squad.

We need interesting characters who aren't ALL jokes, AND some of them need to die.

Ayer barely killed anybody, but he did give us interesting mid-level characters who were decently skilled: El Diablo, Killer Croc, Harley, Deadshot, Boomerang. Now, he SQUANDERED a lot of those characters (Boomerang and Killer Croc), but the potential was there.

Gunn... well, we'll see. Killer Shark, Harley, and whoever the fvck Idris Elba is playing. Those are the only ones I currently give a fvck about. And only if Harley is more Batman Harley than weird "SJW Chick Flick" Harley. Ugh.

Leo656
10-24-2020, 11:24 PM
For a movie about the Suicide Squad, the first one really did more Right than Wrong in the grand scheme of things. It sure didn't seem to hit the mark with a lot of people as a movie, but I mean, it totally represented the "brand" or whatever correctly, for the most part. It's a mess, especially Act III, but I think it says a lot that the guy who created the Squad for the comics said that it was everything he'd expect to see in a movie about them. I think the rest has a lot to do with, "Was the movie even necessary?" And that's a conversation. I'unno, I feel like they aimed squarely for the middle and hit it. A lot could have been done differently, for sure, but I mean... that's the Squad, those are the characters... everyone IN it was done perfectly, to my eyes, they just didn't get a lot to do because the studio didn't know if they were making a comic book version of "The Expendables" or a black comedy about "Harley Quinn and Her Wacky Pals." But for better and worse, that was definitely the Suicide Squad. Like that's what those characters (and a movie about those characters) looks like.

A lot of things were allegedly very different before the studio took final cut away from Ayer. In the unlikely event that his cut ever saw the light of day, I'd be very interested in seeing it. For one thing, I love alternate cuts of movies in general; I find it fascinating to see how different sets of hands can alter the entire shape and direction of a film (for Better and/or Worse). And I feel like there was probably a more coherent narrative before WB started tinkering with it. There's at least THREE different versions of that movie, as I understand it. That's nuts! I doubt any of them is a masterpiece, but I'm willing to entertain the notion that Ayer kinda knew what he was doing with it and that WB didn't have a clue what they wanted. Hence the multiple different cuts with varying plot points and tones.

This time out, I feel like Gunn ALSO knows exactly what he wants to do and WB is just totally letting him, but... this looks a lot more like the Birds of Prey movie than I'm comfortable with.

Autbot_Benz
11-14-2020, 02:26 PM
Slyvester Stallone is in the movie

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Sylvester Stallone reveals that he will be in James Gunn’s ‘THE SUICIDE SQUAD’.

(Source: https://instagram.com/p/CHlVfoypWmF/?igshid=pqgdi20tjw0)

TurtleTitan97
03-26-2021, 11:07 AM
Trailer's out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdlvexsfRAw

Autbot_Benz
03-26-2021, 11:25 AM
Trailer's out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdlvexsfRAw

much better than that 2016 travesty. Also it looks like Slyvester Stallone is voicing King Shark

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
03-26-2021, 11:54 AM
Not feeling it.

Andrew NDB
03-26-2021, 12:03 PM
Eh. Jeeze. I'd just have to see it. Seems like a harder core version of Guardians of the Galaxy... but on Earth. I'd probably enjoy a whole movie where it's just King Shark eating dudes bloodily, but I didn't really chuckle at anything here.

oldmanwinters
03-26-2021, 12:05 PM
So this is a sequel to Suicide Squad (2016) but a completely different trajectory than Harley Quinn/Birds or Prey (2020). DC movies sure are confusing!

Andrew NDB
03-26-2021, 12:10 PM
So this is a sequel to Suicide Squad (2016) but a completely different trajectory than Harley Quinn/Birds or Prey (2020). DC movies sure are confusing!

They're calling it not a sequel to "Suicide Squad" but anyone with two eyes and more than a couple of brain cells to rub together can see that it clearly is one. It's not even a "stealth" sequel -- it's just a straight up sequel.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
03-26-2021, 12:12 PM
Eh. Jeeze. I'd just have to see it. Seems like a harder core version of Guardians of the Galaxy... but on Earth. I'd probably enjoy a whole movie where it's just King Shark eating dudes bloodily, but I didn't really chuckle at anything here.

It feels like James Gunn's humor is getting more and more forced, and more and more prevalent.

I laughed quite a bit in the first Guardians of the Galaxy; thought it was a fairly decent blend of story, stakes, and humor. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was a big step down. And this feels like an even bigger step down again.

I'll still watch it eventually to see if I'm right or not, but I won't be surprised if he's digging too deep into his own shtick.

oldmanwinters
03-26-2021, 12:14 PM
They're calling it not a sequel to "Suicide Squad" but anyone with two eyes and more than a couple of brain cells to rub together can see that it clearly is one. It's not even a "stealth" sequel -- it's just a straight up sequel.

I'm a fan of Elseworlds comics, but it can get a little ridiculous!

Leo656
03-26-2021, 01:08 PM
So this is a sequel to Suicide Squad (2016) but a completely different trajectory than Harley Quinn/Birds or Prey (2020). DC movies sure are confusing!

Especially since their unofficial/official stance on "canon" is now just, "If you like the movie, it counts, if you don't like it, then it's not canon." Which I half-get, but at the same time, yeah. It's a mess.

This definitely isn't going to be funny at all, if this is any indication of the "best" jokes. Not that I want or need my comic book movies to be "funny", but given that being funny and irreverent is kind of Gunn's entire schtick... yeah, it's not funny.

King Shark looks pretty video game-y but I assume he'll be integrated better in the actual movie, as is common these days.

I'd heard Mongal was in this, but I don't think I see her anywhere. She's either a late-game player OR she gets killed off early, I'm guessing. I wasn't in favor of her inclusion at all, anyway, since she's a crap character and the DC films haven't even introduced Mongul, yet, so having his sister play any sort of role in anything is just gonna annoy the crap out of me.

EDIT: Okay, nevermind, I saw her in the first "Team Walking" glamour shot, but given how she's absent from the rest of the footage, I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that she probably dies first, maybe second.

Starro? Seriously? :lol: I mean, that's fine, I guess. Just wasn't expecting that at all.

Pete Davidson is a huuuuuuuuge NOPE for me 100% of the time, but I guess I'll suffer through. John Cena, too. I f*cking hate that he's in this... and his spin-off show almost* guarantees that he's gonna survive, so I won't even get the satisfaction of watching him get killed off. Bummer!

*"Almost" because sure, it might be a prequel show, but I highly doubt it. It's John f*cking Cena, he's not gonna get killed off any more than The Rock is gonna get killed off in "Black Adam"... or anything else, for that matter.

I was one of the five people who didn't hate the first movie at all, so I'll see this one but I can't say I'm in any way excited about it. I thought the first more or less did what it needed to do - open up the DCEU a little bit, show off some new characters, add some lore, and set up Justice League by showing off that "The world of these films needs a super-team to battle the Really Big Threats... but it definitely shouldn't be These F*cking Guys." On that level, I still feel that it worked, it was just kind of sloppy.

This one just kinda feels like they're just jacking off. Not "bad", I mean it looks... fine. But if these are the jokes, and the jokes are supposed to carry the movie, I'm getting the exact same feeling I got while watching Chickbusters: "Who the f*ck told y'all you were funny? Obviously you THINK you're funny, but... someone misled you." That's exactly how I felt watching this trailer.

We'll see. I'll watch it, probably, but urgency is very low.

AquaParade
03-26-2021, 01:11 PM
I commend WB for giving a ton of freedom to James Gunn and letting him go wild. I hope the film does well for that reason. It's got it's own thing going.

Not for me though. I'm not a particular fan of the GOTG movies and this trailer did pretty much nothing for me.

I really don't give a crap about the film canon, when it comes to DC. If a film releases which is in the same continuity as one before it, in any meaningful way, they'll let us know. Otherwise, give creators some freedom up in this bitch. MCU has a puppet-master/"shared universe - director" in Kevin Feige, so it suits them to have such a cohesive vision. Until WB lucks upon someone who is both as passionate about the source and simultaneously as industry savy as Kevin Feige, they shouldn't be copying the MCU approach. They are playing to their strengths, which is their strong relationships with directors and giving them more freedom than the MCU can possibly give them. It's a total win in my book and I'm glad we have both approaches. Maybe it's easy for me to say this, because I've just enjoyed so much of their output. WB gets such a bad rap from online communities but since, like 2005, they've been putting out some of my favorite comic book films, while I ignore the duds. I love that company.

Leo656
03-26-2021, 01:23 PM
I commend WB for giving a ton of freedom to James Gunn and letting him go wild. I hope the film does well for that reason. It's got it's own thing going.

Not for me though. I'm not a particular fan of the GOTG movies and this trailer did pretty much nothing for me.

Yeah, but that whole thing was basically just WB trying to dunk on Disney in the first place, "stealing" Gunn away during that brief period when Disney wouldn't use Gunn because of the allegations against him. It feels very cynical, to me. It wasn't a decision made out of altruism, it was very much done for the same reason they had Whedon come on to finish Justice League: "Let's steal a Marvel Guy, so people will like our movies." I mean, I absolutely get it, but... it kind of shows how WB misunderstands a lot of things about what makes certain movies better-received than others.

GotG only PARTLY became a runaway success because of Gunn and his input. That is indeed a factor, but I've always maintained that it's just as much to do with The Marvel Brand and how that brand is essentially a license to print money. They can put their stamp on ANY movie and it will at least do very well, if not blow people away. But if WB thinks that hiring "The GotG Guy" and letting him go balls-out is going to add up to huge box office numbers, in and of itself, I think they're in for a very rude awakening. But only time will tell.

The bloom also fell hard off of the Harley Quinn "rose" with "Birds of Prey", and there's a large and growing backlash against the character (and Robbie) now after that misfire, so we'll have to see how much of a factor that plays in this movie's success.

I don't know, I think it'll be fine and maybe even do alright but I'm not expecting it to be a huge runaway success. I honestly think it looks like it'll get a lot of the same criticism the first one got, namely a bunch of "characters" who are only there to take up space and/or get killed off, and serious tonal whiplash between excessive gore and "jokes" that don't land.

But we shall see.


I really don't give a crap about the film canon, when it comes to DC. If a film releases which is in the same continuity as one before it, in any meaningful way, they'll let us know. Otherwise, give creators some freedom up in this bitch.

I don't entirely disagree. But it does annoy and confuse the audience when you have the same actors, playing the same characters, in movies that either ignore or contradict each other. They really shouldn't do that.

Like, you could believe that the Wonder Woman in her first solo movie is the same one as in BvS and either cut of Justice League, But Diana in WW84, from what I've seen, may as well be a completely different person. It's weird, and it's annoying.

AquaParade
03-26-2021, 01:40 PM
Yeah, but that whole thing was basically just WB trying to dunk on Disney in the first place, "stealing" Gunn away during that brief period when Disney wouldn't use Gunn because of the allegations against him. It feels very cynical, to me. It wasn't a decision made out of altruism, it was very much done for the same reason they had Whedon come on to finish Justice League: "Let's steal a Marvel Guy, so people will like our movies." I mean, I absolutely get it, but... it kind of shows how WB misunderstands a lot of things about what makes certain movies better-received than others.

I thought it was a savy move, a blessing for James Gunn, the birth of an unfiltered creative vision for fans, and a giant loogie in the face of cancel culture.

Maybe it was the same ideology that drove them to pick up Whedon after Avengers, as you say. That makes a lot of sense and I hadn't really considered it. Even so, that wouldn't necessarily negate the good aspects. I think there are a lot of ways you can look at this situation.

I wouldn't call it "stealing" though. If someone chucks their Rolex out of their car window, straight into the gutter, I'd actually feel like I'm doing the Rolex a service by picking it up. Plus, it's just good business for WB.

Leo656
03-26-2021, 01:54 PM
:lol: Not a bad little analogy there. I like that.

I'd be more inclined to believe it was "good business" for WB if Gunn had any non-GotG "hits" on his resume... but he doesn't. There is absolutely NO evidence that the name "James Gunn" draws people in.

Thus, I'm still not convinced WB would have had any interest in him whatsoever, if not for the fact that GotG made so much money for Disney and WB wants similar returns. "His team-up movies made a ton of money... if we have him do a team-up movie for us, then OURS will also make a ton of money!"

It's like, WB has consistently shown that their view on what works and what doesn't is incredibly over-simplified. Like they thought that "The Avengers Guy" + "Bright Colors" + "Lots of Jokes" would make the theatrical release of JL a big hit, and they ended up losing their shirt on that. Because it's just plain NOT that simple. Every single decision they make - even GOOD decisions - is always made for the absolute stupidest reasons, without exception.

But yeah, Gunn's non-GotG track record is pretty dismal. I don't think anyone at WB even knew his name before the scandal that got him briefly kicked out of the Marvel sandbox. I might be wrong, I wasn't in the room or anything. I just don't for a second believe he was hired for his style or his "vision". He was almost certainly hired because he was "A Marvel Guy", his movies made money for Disney, and snatching him up would get WB some good ink.

Which doesn't mean it was a "bad" decision or anything or that he's a bad choice for this movie or anything like that. I've just seen enough of WB and the How/Why behind their decision-making process to not want to give them the benefit of the doubt. Ever. About anything. :lol:

LeotheLateBloomer
03-26-2021, 02:05 PM
Yeah...this trailer did nothing for me. In fact it felt like a weird mix between bland and forced humor. Even the first trailer was better than this and that isn't saying much. James Gunn, this ain't it.

Leo656
03-26-2021, 02:27 PM
What's hilarious to me is I clicked around a few sites to see what the reaction has been from some of the Exact Same People who hated most of the other DC movies, including "Zack Snyder's Justice League".

The gushing is pretty laughable. "Finally, a GOOD DC movie!" "They need to let James Gunn handle every DC movie, period!" "THIS LOOKS INCREDIBLE!" :lol: :lol: :lol:

"There's no accounting for taste," indeed.

Andrew NDB
03-26-2021, 02:33 PM
I feel like I know exactly what's going to happen. Just a lot of James Gunn doing gross out stuff on a bigger R-rated scale here, "laughs a minute," and most of the team getting killed by the end of the movie and largely for laughs (except Harley and like 3 others).

sdp
03-26-2021, 03:00 PM
trailer looks awful but then again the first suicide squad had a cool trailer and awful movie. I'm a fan of the "ambiguiously" canon, i think superhero movies need to take that stance, something doesn't fit 100% into continuity? who cares, make a great story without having to reboot everything. Imagine if after Spider-Man 3 we would've just gotten another spider-man movie that wasn't technically the same universe but would act as if this spider-man had fought green goblin/sandman etc. Works better since you aren't rebooting and telling the same stories over and over, you give freedom to the director, you get a kick ass story. Incredible Hulk is a great example, it sort of works as a sequel to the Hulk movie but the origin is slightly off but that's ok.

CyberCubed
03-26-2021, 05:47 PM
I can't watch the trailer on youtube since its age restricted.

Sumac
03-26-2021, 05:52 PM
I can't watch the trailer on youtube since its age restricted.
I thought you are 30+ not -15. :P

TigerClaw
03-26-2021, 05:57 PM
Loved the trailer and loved the vibe this movie will bring. James Gunn always delivers.

Leo656
03-26-2021, 10:31 PM
What movies of his have you seen besides the two "Guardians" films? Be honest.

I liked "Brightburn", but apparently I was the only one. I know a few kids liked Scooby-Doo 2, but kids are morons and that movie was awful. He's done those and "Guardians", and a bunch of stuff nobody saw. To say he "always delivers" is a stretch.

To say "He's a hack who got lucky once" would probably ALSO be a stretch. BUT. Of those two "stretches"... it's probably the one closer to the truth.

Movie might be good. Trailer was dogsh*t. If that was their best material, they're in trouble.

I remember when the first trailer for Chickbusters came out, and the trailer was terrible, and everyone including Kevin Smith was like "That was definitely a bad trailer... but the movie might still be good! Maybe they just used weak material for the trailer! I mean, that's never how any trailer works, they usually use the 'best' stuff for the trailers, but... hey, maybe?" And then the movie came out and was worse than anyone could have dreamed of.

That's why I have a bad feeling about this, now. Because that was a very bad trailer. It wasn't funny. They have some real clunkers in the cast (WTF is Pete Davidson doing there?!). They're tasked with making some real garbage DC characters like Polka-Dot Man and Mongal "work" in live-action and I'm not convinced they can. A lot of people flat-out hated the first Suicide Squad movie, but the trailers were admittedly really slick. This trailer, by comparison, was a bomb. What are the odds that they only used the crappy parts, and are saving the "good stuff" for the movie itself? Could happen, sure, but it'd be a first.

Powder
03-27-2021, 02:28 AM
All of the "humor" is rage inducing but it looks pretty cool otherwise, I guess.

drgon78
03-27-2021, 06:05 AM
I like Starro but feels wasted in a suicide Squad movie.

Autbot_Benz
04-01-2021, 03:05 PM
A new Theatrical Trailer was released with Kong Vs Godzilla

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1377712257157636096


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TigerClaw
04-01-2021, 05:27 PM
A new Theatrical Trailer was released with Kong Vs Godzilla

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1377712257157636096


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Here's the new trailer out officially.

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Andrew NDB
04-02-2021, 08:10 AM
I don't entirely disagree. But it does annoy and confuse the audience when you have the same actors, playing the same characters, in movies that either ignore or contradict each other. They really shouldn't do that.

I don't like that either, though I think it applies to Suicide Squad and The Suicide Squad kind of like comics. Like, you get a run by Dan Jurgens for 10-12 issues, then you get a run by Gail Simone for 10-12 issues. The second run may feel very different than the run before it, maybe even focusing on radically different things, but it's not like it invalidates or de-canonizes the previous run.

I'd heard Mongal was in this, but I don't think I see her anywhere. She's either a late-game player OR she gets killed off early, I'm guessing.

She's played by Mayling Ng, who famously only plays big muscled women characters in bit parts, usually in a non-speaking capacity. She's definitely getting killed off quick.

Leo656
04-02-2021, 10:12 PM
Mongal is such a sh*t character, they had Mongul kill her and then give a "meta" soliloquy to her severed head about what a sh*tty, useless nonsense character she was.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/100990/1911325-mongulsister.jpg

Awesome.

TigerClaw
06-22-2021, 01:30 PM
New Trailer for The Suicide Squad.

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