DC's Peacemaker Starring John Cena (HBO Max)

[ZariusTwo]

HBO Max have just commissioned a Suicide Squad spin-off series centered on John Cena's Peacemaker character

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/suicide-squad-peacemaker-series-john-cena-james-gunn-hbo-max-1234780589/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You know, there's a narrow but decent range of decisions WB/DC can make that won't elicit a negative reaction from me.

Unsurprisingly, this falls well outside that range. :tlol:

[Autbot_Benz]

I am sure Leo is just thrilled about this :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I am sure Leo is just thrilled about this :lol:

:tlol:

Next up, Dwayne Johnson cast as -- wait a minute, the Rock is already in a DC production. :tlol:

[Leo656]

Yeah, but I'm convinced that ol' Flex was specifically only put on this Earth so that he could ultimately play Black Adam. It's the only reason he even exists and he's pretty much perfect for it, so I can live with it.

F*ck John Cena, though. F*ck that guy right in the ear!

[Andrew NDB]

It's probably going to be written by Geoff Johns.

[Galactus]

Don't know how this is going to turn out but the costume looks nice at least.

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah, but I'm convinced that ol' Flex was specifically only put on this Earth so that he could ultimately play Black Adam. It's the only reason he even exists and he's pretty much perfect for it, so I can live with it.

F*ck John Cena, though. F*ck that guy right in the ear!

Rikki Roxx was gonna face off against John Cena one night, but it never happened cause he didn't see his opponent anywhere.

[ZariusTwo]

Rikk mate, you should track down Bruce Blitz and shoot the breeze on Cena:lol:

[Leo656]

I don't even like talking abut John Cena, it leaves my mouth tasting of ashes.

I will say, however, that his rap CD was a bit underrated. Although Tha Trademarc did most of the heavy lifting on that one. He later went on to do Kurt Angle's far superior and impeccable TNA theme, so we can tell where the talent in the Cena/Trademarc duo really was. :trazz:

I do occasionally nod my head to "Bad, Bad Man" to this day, I confess. But I'm always sure to follow it up by saying "F*CK John Cena" afterwards. My soul is clean.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't even like talking abut John Cena, it leaves my mouth tasting of ashes.

I will say, however, that his rap CD was a bit underrated.

You actually went out to the store and bought a copy? :lol:

[Leo656]

I did. Almost certainly at FYE at the mall. It was a different time, the world didn't realize we should all hate him yet. But yeah, I got it when it was new.

Which is partly why I can say any f*cking thing I want about him. He got my $12.99 off the strength of one admittedly good single, and in turn I can razz him as much as I want to, forever.

To be quite fair, it's not actually bad. Thoroughly mediocre and meandering, but not "bad". He had good people working with him on it, like Bumpy Knuckles and so on. So that definitely helped him out.

Pretty much a one-track album, though. "Bad, Bad Man" is the one really good track and the rest is all kinda "eh" by comparison.

Sadly, I do not own Macho Man's rap CD, on account of it was apparently pretty hard to find and stores over here did not carry it. Bummer.

But yeah, I paid full price for John Cena's rap CD. I drink straight Jack. I have a Speed Racer tattoo. I wear Mets shirts in public. I never wear a condom. I make Very Good Lifestyle Decisions. :trazz:

[Andrew NDB]

Sadly, I do not own Macho Man's rap CD, on account of it was apparently pretty hard to find and stores over here did not carry it. Bummer.

I actually owned it. I remember creating Macho Man on some X-Box wrestling game and making his intro theme one of his rap songs. The one where he's rapping about how Hogan is whack and "I got featured on Spider-Man!"

[Leo656]

The weekend Savage died, I was on a show with Danny Doring from ECW, and he made that track - "Be A Man" - his theme song in tribute because he's a huge Savage fan. I think he kept it that way all year, come to think of it.

I miss that guy. I used to see him all the time but I only wrestled him once, and then he slowed down after that. I think having a kid made him wanna stop. He's a trip, though.

[ZariusTwo]

Gunn suggests the show might not be a prequel, despite some focus being on the origins of the character

https://www.cbr.com/suicide-squad-john-cena-peacemaker-might-not-be-prequel/

[ZariusTwo]

Danielle Brooks joins the cast

https://deadline.com/2020/11/peacemaker-suicide-squad-spinoff-series-hbo-max-adds-danielle-brooks-1234612903/

[ZariusTwo]

Matt Miller joins the show as an executive producer

https://deadline.com/2020/12/matt-miller-the-peacemaker-exec-producer-the-suicide-squad-spinoff-hbo-max-renews-overall-deal-warner-bros-tv-1234655910/

[ZariusTwo]

Filming begins

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a35231599/the-suicide-squad-peacemaker-james-gunn-filming/

[ZariusTwo]

First look from the show

https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news/peacemaker-first-look-john-cena-series-world-exclusive/

[Andrew NDB]

Gunn suggests the show might not be a prequel, despite some focus being on the origins of the character

Yeah, not a prequel. A sequel:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/first-poster-james-gunns-peacemaker/

[ZariusTwo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBMH2hAVIAUnAO2?format=jpg&name=medium

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[ZariusTwo]

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[ZariusTwo]

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[ZariusTwo]

The level of troll is real with this one

Gunn even uses the Snyder cut chapter breaks:lol:


And of course, the intro.

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Snyder cult seething

[Autbot_Benz]

The level of troll is real with this one

Gunn even uses the Snyder cut chapter breaks:lol:


And of course, the intro.

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Snyder cult seething

Gunn used the Snyder Cut Chapter Breaks in his Suicide Squad Movie too it was funny.

[Andrew NDB]

Say what, this is out? And already the first three episodes?

[Andrew NDB]

Just saw the first one. Man, I'm not sure. I get what Gunn is trying to do, and they're making Peacemaker himself almost like the Johnny Lawrence figure from Cobra Kai... but I'm not sure it works. Not with this ensemble and a lot of this "obvious humor." A lot of... stuff you'd expect to see in an SJW-driven show these days, too, but I can't tell for sure if Gunn is doing that ironically. Some of it, sure.

Maybe these will get better but no laughs from me at all in episode 1. That WAS a great fight at the end, though. It was telegraphed as coming but that was pretty brutal.

[ZariusTwo]

Gunn used the Snyder Cut Chapter Breaks in his Suicide Squad Movie

I totally blanked on that:ohwell:

[Andrew NDB]

I enjoyed 2 and 3 more than 1. Starts to get pretty funny.

The villain has to be Mr. Mind, right? "Butterflies." Butterflies come from caterpillars. Tiny alien ship. Mr. Mind is an alien caterpillar.

[ProphetofGanja]

Is it like an episode a week now that the first three have dropped? I may check this out

[Andrew NDB]

Renewed for season 2 already:

https://tvline.com/2022/02/16/peacemaker-renewed-season-2-suicide-squad-spinoff/?fbclid=IwAR33IuHY8KWGF1d4j-NCXx2qwHdNmP7VrvCHCbW7Bi0-z6y5AKv3bKHG6dE

[ZariusTwo]

Finale spoilers

The Justice Leauge appear, Henry and Gal are out of shot and represented by body doubles, no Batman, but Jason Mamoa and Ezra Miller appear as Arthur and Barry. Peacemaker tells Arthur to go f*ck a fish, Arthur says he's sick of hearing about that rumour, Barry tells him it isn't a rumour and Arthur tells him to f*ck off

[Andrew NDB]

Finale spoilers

The Justice Leauge appear, Henry and Gal are out of shot and represented by body doubles, no Batman, but Jason Mamoa and Ezra Miller appear as Arthur and Barry. Peacemaker tells Arthur to go f*ck a fish, Arthur says he's sick of hearing about that rumour, Barry tells him it isn't a rumour and Arthur tells him to f*ck off

Yeah. Heh. They really didn't need a JL cameo at all but that they did... very nice cherry on top.

Also, 100% seems they didn't have Ezra and Momoa on set the same day as Cena. When they're actually talking it's just them. Methinks they shot the whole thing with only doubles, fingers crossed about who they could get for closeups/lines later on. Then they had Ezra and Momoa for 5 minutes some other time and just went bang.

[ZariusTwo]

Yeah. Heh. They really didn't need a JL cameo at all but that they did... very nice cherry on top.

Also, 100% seems they didn't have Ezra and Momoa on set the same day as Cena. When they're actually talking it's just them. Methinks they shot the whole thing with only doubles, fingers crossed about who they could get for closeups/lines later on. Then they had Ezra and Momoa for 5 minutes some other time and just went bang.

Gunn said in an interview

He brought Ezra and Momoa onto the set of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3 to shoot their cameos

[Andrew NDB]

Gunn said in an interview

He brought Ezra and Momoa onto the set of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3 to shoot their cameos

Ah. That totally computes then. Nice.

[ZariusTwo]

Apparently Batman and Cyborg were to appear via body doubles but were cut

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaKpbLvJskM/?utm_source=ig_embed

[Autbot_Benz]

Superman's Body Double not too shabby

https://i.imgur.com/juso9hw.jpg

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah. Heh. They really didn't need a JL cameo at all but that they did... very nice cherry on top.

Also, 100% seems they didn't have Ezra and Momoa on set the same day as Cena. When they're actually talking it's just them. Methinks they shot the whole thing with only doubles, fingers crossed about who they could get for closeups/lines later on. Then they had Ezra and Momoa for 5 minutes some other time and just went bang.

I mean if we're supposed to believe Peacemaker and such exists within the same universe, then they should make the occasional appearance, at the very least news reports or posters or whatever. It almost makes no sense if they don't.

[CyberCubed]

Just started the first episode and the show has a black lesbian couple right from the start. Also does anyone else think the girl with the short blonde hair sort of looks like Robin from Stranger Things? Like maybe a slightly older version of her since this actress is older? I almost thought it was the same person at first.

[The Deadman]

https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1744487571659645329

Why break something that doesnt need fixing?

[ZariusTwo]

Peacemaker's first season is no longer canon, but season two will be set in Gunn's new DCU

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1766846713917063569

[Autbot_Benz]

Season 2 of James Gunn‘s DC action series “Peacemaker” has added Frank Grillo, Gunn announced Friday on Threads. Grillo will play Rick Flag Sr., the father of Suicide Squad member Rick Flag Jr. (played by Joel Kinnaman in the previous two movies).

However, Grillo will debut as Rick Flag Sr. in animated form first. He’s part of the voice cast for “Creature Commandos,” an upcoming Max series about a black ops team of monsters working for Amanda Waller after she forms the Suicide Squad. “Creature Commandos” will kick off Gunn’s Phase One of the new DC Universe.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/frank-grillo-peacemaker-season-2-1235998755/

[TigerClaw]

It will be interesting to see how Rick Flag Sr will react to Peacemaker, Who killed his son in the last Suicide Squad movie.

[Andrew NDB]

It will be interesting to see how Rick Flag Sr will react to Peacemaker, Who killed his son in the last Suicide Squad movie.

Will he even be the father of that Jr. if it's a new universe? For that matter, would Jr. even be dead in this one?

[Autbot_Benz]

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[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/gunn-offers-new-peacemaker-season-2-details/

When talking about Peacemaker season 2, James Gunn confirms that Superman will feature a Quantum Unfolding Chamber (QUC). That probably means the rumors about the villain of Superman being Ultraman are looking pretty likely to be true.

And in Peacemaker season 2, it seems clear that either the Snyderverse Peacemaker is coming to visit the Gunn-verse Peacemaker, or vice versa (and one will probably kill the other). Are people really still in the mood for all this multiversal stuff, though? I would've thought after Flash was DOA DC would've wanted to steer clear of that stuff for a good long while.

[ZariusTwo]

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[Andrew NDB]

Episode 1 of season 2 is out. Among other things, it has a big orgy with lots of frontal nudity... both female and male. Bigger than the stuff in The Boys.

[Andrew NDB]

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/peacemaker/the-justice-gang-switch-in-peacemaker-gets-explained-by-james-gunn-a223474

I don't get this. Why retcon the Justice League cameo at the end of season 1? I thought the whole idea is that Peacemaker is jumping out of the Snyderverse and into the new Gunn-verse, and killing his Gunn-verse self and taking his place? Or are they making this way more complicated than it needs to be?

[cammy85]

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/peacemaker/the-justice-gang-switch-in-peacemaker-gets-explained-by-james-gunn-a223474

I don't get this. Why retcon the Justice League cameo at the end of season 1? I thought the whole idea is that Peacemaker is jumping out of the Snyderverse and into the new Gunn-verse, and killing his Gunn-verse self and taking his place? Or are they making this way more complicated than it needs to be?

It's definitely both. I forgot to rewatch Season 1 before this started, but your theories make sense.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/peacemaker/the-justice-gang-switch-in-peacemaker-gets-explained-by-james-gunn-a223474

I don't get this. Why retcon the Justice League cameo at the end of season 1? I thought the whole idea is that Peacemaker is jumping out of the Snyderverse and into the new Gunn-verse, and killing his Gunn-verse self and taking his place? Or are they making this way more complicated than it needs to be?

No the alt universe is where everything in his life goes well and he is a hero the current universe is the Gunn-verse since he had an interview with Maxwell Lord Guy Gardner and Hawkgirl that didn’t go well. Not to mention Rick Flag Sr mentions the Luther indecent

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, weeeird. This was like a golden opportunity to just shift Peacemaker from one universe to the new (current) one super cleanly. So basically we're just supposed to go in having to figure that reality got messed with in between seasons?

[nidza_maj2000]

In my opinion start of season 2 is really good and when we watch final episode of season 1 we can even skip Justice League part and think that in that scene Justice Gang showed up like what was shown in season 1 recap, also James Gunn teased Blue Beetle from 2023 movie might appear in this season

[sdp]

Watched season 1, this almost feels like a live action The Tick show, kinda wish it were.
Peacemaker feels way different than the one in the movie, though I still likes him. The show had like 2 eps in the middle that perhaps weren't needed but overall it was a good show.
https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/peacemaker/the-justice-gang-switch-in-peacemaker-gets-explained-by-james-gunn-a223474

I don't get this. Why retcon the Justice League cameo at the end of season 1? I thought the whole idea is that Peacemaker is jumping out of the Snyderverse and into the new Gunn-verse, and killing his Gunn-verse self and taking his place? Or are they making this way more complicated than it needs to be?
They're making it less complicated just saying the show now takes place then the DCU and ignore the few references to DCEU.

[nidza_maj2000]

This week episode of Peacemaker is also good, it looks like in next episode we will see more of Chris in alternate universe

[sdp]

Man, I didn't realize the season was going to be drip fed week by week. This is why I preferto wait I til a show is over.
I'm too used to just waiting until the final season is about to be released before I start watching the show.

[nidza_maj2000]

Man, I didn't realize the season was going to be drip fed week by week. This is why I preferto wait I til a show is over.
I'm too used to just waiting until the final season is about to be released before I start watching the show.

Watching it weekly builds anticipation maybe also I am curious which characters will have cameos in last 3 episodes maybe like James Gunn said maybe some of them will also have bigger role and I think one of them will be Blue Beetle

[nidza_maj2000]

Which characters do you guys think might appear in last 3 episodes of season 2 that James Gunn teased?

[Andrew NDB]

Which characters do you guys think might appear in last 3 episodes of season 2 that James Gunn teased?

It'll be someone from Superman that we haven't already seen so far. Maybe Superman himself? Lois? Mr. Terrific?

[nidza_maj2000]

It'll be someone from Superman that we haven't already seen so far. Maybe Superman himself? Lois? Mr. Terrific?

Yeah and Blue Beetle from 2023 movie, do you think he is also possible? Because James Gunn also teased his appearance in imdb interview

[sdp]

think we might see my wife Supergirl to hype up her new movie. Blue Beetle seems very likely. I also think it's likely we see someone from Creature Commando's but I'm still watching it so can't comment on who would be likely from it. We already saw Guy and Hawkgirl, perhaps them again as well.

I'm not feeling this new season as much, the whole heel/face turn feels a bit forced. I liked the character the best in TSS where he was more of a square "whatever it is i will do it to get peace done" than the "i'm a flawed human that is learning", still the cast is interesting enough.

[nidza_maj2000]

think we might see my wife Supergirl to hype up her new movie. Blue Beetle seems very likely. I also think it's likely we see someone from Creature Commando's but I'm still watching it so can't comment on who would be likely from it. We already saw Guy and Hawkgirl, perhaps them again as well.

Yeah, maybe they will setup Blue Beetle animated series in this, Superman and Supergirl already appeared in season 2 episode 1 in season 1 recap but I think you are right that they might appear again not only as a cameos as there, Guy Gardner and Hawkgirl appeared in episode 1 after having cameos in season 1 recap, maybe some of Creature Commandos will appear in live action here

[Andrew NDB]

think we might see my wife Supergirl to hype up her new movie. Blue Beetle seems very likely.

Maybe one of those two, sure. Could be right.

Saw the second episode now. Hmm. idk, something isn't clicking with this season for me. Maybe it's Gunn gasping for air after working on Superman for so long, finally able to do the kind of material he REALLY wants to do and just going nuts with it. I generally always have dug this kind of humor but I'm not even chuckling this time around.

[KaraiLover09]

I never saw the second Suicide Squad movie. That one still took place in the Snyderverse right? I'm trying to understand how his cameo in this new Superman movie makes sense.

[Andrew NDB]

I never saw the second Suicide Squad movie. That one still took place in the Snyderverse right?

Not anymore.

[nidza_maj2000]

Not anymore.

Yeah, now it probably takes place in DCU because we saw flashback from that movie in Peacemaker season 2 episode 2 maybe

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, now it probably takes place in DCU because we saw flashback from that movie in Peacemaker season 2 episode 2 maybe

Though I'm sure there'll be little things. Like maybe Margot Robbie is no longer Harley Quinn in the DCEU.

[sdp]

I mean TSS still takes place in the DCEU, it's just that a very similar event happened in the new DCU but without the DCEU references. It's kinda weird how they're doing their soft/hard reboot but whatever. I guess they feel audiences would not mind and it was easier than giving an explanation of "The Flash did it" or "John Cena changed universes". The movies are mostly stand alone and besides nerds like us most people won't mind or care. Anyone can watch Creature Commando's without having to watch TSS and Peacemaker despite the fact that the reason CC exists was because of what happened in S1, but one throwaway line "We can't use humans so we're using monsters" is all normal people need.

BTW I don't normally have insomnia, but I did last night, and saw there was a peacemaker 'podcast' by Gunn on HBO Max, I highly recommend it. it seemed insightful but the most important thing is it got me to fall asleep whithin 10 minutes. If you ever can't sleep just put that on the background and you'll fall asleep like a baby.

[nidza_maj2000]

Though I'm sure there'll be little things. Like maybe Margot Robbie is no longer Harley Quinn in the DCEU.

If it happens maybe they can explain that she somehow changed her look after events of Suicide Squad movie

[Andrew NDB]

If it happens maybe they can explain that she somehow changed her look after events of Suicide Squad movie

I can't imagine there'd be any need to do something like that. It'd just be the same reason there was the Justice Gang now at the end of Peacemaker season 1 instead of the Justice League, now.

[nidza_maj2000]

I can't imagine there'd be any need to do something like that. It'd just be the same reason there was the Justice Gang now at the end of Peacemaker season 1 instead of the Justice League, now.
So we should just imagine she had new actress face look in Suicide Squad movie if they really change actress maybe?

[sdp]

He said he would George Lucas Season 1 if he had the money to do it, so yeah we're just to pretend the movie happened as how the DCU says it happened. So when we meet a new Harley that's the harley that actually appeared in TSS. I'm guessing flashbacks are the only times we'll see the edited retcons.

[nidza_maj2000]

He said he would George Lucas Season 1 if he had the money to do it, so yeah we're just to pretend the movie happened as how the DCU says it happened. So when we meet a new Harley that's the harley that actually appeared in TSS. I'm guessing flashbacks are the only times we'll see the edited retcons.

So there might still be chance that it is Harley Quinn played by Margot Robbie

[Andrew NDB]

So there might still be chance that it is Harley Quinn played by Margot Robbie

A small one. I think she's done with the role and I'm pretty sure 10 years is about the max shelf life someone could expect to play someone like Harley Quinn anyway. With there being a new Joker and Batman and all it's probably best to clean house on all of that while they're at it.

[nidza_maj2000]

This might kind of confirm that Blue Beetle will appear in this season, here it is:https://www.instagram.com/p/DOJEe8LjdVX/?img_index=1 also check Blue Beetle movie director Instagram story for this

[nidza_maj2000]

So Xolo Maraduena saying he is not in it in recent interview might be similar to how Andrew Garfield said he was not in Spider-Man No Way Home before that movie come out, we have to wait and see will this be same situation

[Andrew NDB]

And Xolo changed his Instagram profile pic to Blue Beetle.

idk... I love Xolo but I hated that Blue Beetle movie. That said, I wonder how Gunn would handle the character. He might be uniquely suited to write for him.

[nidza_maj2000]

And Xolo changed his Instagram profile pic to Blue Beetle.

idk... I love Xolo but I hated that Blue Beetle movie. That said, I wonder how Gunn would handle the character. He might be uniquely suited to write for him.
Well I have yet to see this movie but I think James Gunn might write him good in this series, also like Andrew Garfield he said in interview that he is excited to see what this season has in store and Andrew said that he is excited to see what they will do in Spider-Man No Way Home movie, he said that before it come out and than when it did come out he was in movie so I think this could be comparable to Xolo saying this if he is in Peacemaker season 2 and I think he probably will be because you gave another proof and that is him changing his profile picture to Blue Beetle

[nidza_maj2000]

So according to James Gunn Peacemaker season 2 might setup Man of Tomorrow movie, here it is: https://www.instagram.com/p/DOL7ZjrAMAM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[Andrew NDB]

Saw the new episode today. Huh. I'm glad to see

Rick Flag Jr. back. Both the original in the beginning just before The Suicide Squad and in the alternate dimension. I wonder if the alternate Rick Flag Jr. is coming to the real dimension (or the other way around) as some kind of olive branch from Peacemaker to Rick Flag Sr.? Surely something to that effect.

Also kind of funny to see Michael Rooker back, but as an eagle killer. I wonder if an ongoing gag is going to be bringing the actor back again and again to play small characters that get killed off rather quickly?

[nidza_maj2000]

Saw the new episode today. Huh. I'm glad to see

Rick Flag Jr. back. Both the original in the beginning just before The Suicide Squad and in the alternate dimension. I wonder if the alternate Rick Flag Jr. is coming to the real dimension (or the other way around) as some kind of olive branch from Peacemaker to Rick Flag Sr.? Surely something to that effect.

Also kind of funny to see Michael Rooker back, but as an eagle killer. I wonder if an ongoing gag is going to be bringing the actor back again and again to play small characters that get killed off rather quickly?
It is really good episode

[Andrew NDB]

Though I see Gunn is doing the Creature Commandos thing again with MAGA-style (and all white, of course) neanderthal bad guys. That's becoming a pattern with him. Either these guys or off-brand, fake Russians from Russian-like made-up countries. These two groups he seems safest in lampooning as villains.

Also it's pretty funny that an episode ago we're to believe that 5 people (and 2 of which being obese) got blackout drunk off of 2 18 packs (minus the 2 beers that were broken)... of BUD LIGHT. So like 6 Bud Lights per person and they're all wrecked the next day? Bullsh**. Has Gunn even drank before?

And Gunn really, really wanted us to see that it was Bud Light they were drinking, too. Every shot they make sure the label is facing the camera front and center. I wonder why.

[nidza_maj2000]

Next episode will probably also be good because Chris will have to deal with ARGUS in his house

[Andrew NDB]

Next episode will probably also be good because Chris will have to deal with ARGUS in his house

Unless it begins with him turning around and walking right back into that door.

[nidza_maj2000]

Unless it begins with him turning around and walking right back into that door.

Did you saw that he will fight Judomaster in season 2 episode 4 promo? Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QpRHwSxOY8

[nidza_maj2000]

So I am really excited to see what will happen in Peacemaker season 2 episode 4 this week and I am definitely existed for last 3 episodes of season because James Gunn said there will be some cameos, he even did not shown this episodes to press

[nidza_maj2000]

This definitely means that Superman can be one of cameos, here: https://www.superherohype.com/movies/625935-man-of-tomorrow-connection-to-peacemaker-season-2-clarified

[KaraiLover09]

Peacemaker's first season is no longer canon, but season two will be set in Gunn's new DCU

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1766846713917063569

I am very confused. So did the movie take place in the Snyderverse or are we pretending it took place during this new Gunnverse?

The trailer made is sound like he hopped dimensions, but it sounds like it's not an old DCU/new DCU situation? From the posts on this forum it sounds like the other dimension is just one where everything goes right for him but not the Gunnverse?

So how does his cameo in the new Superman movie make sense?

[Andrew NDB]

I am very confused. So did the movie take place in the Snyderverse or are we pretending it took place during this new Gunnverse?

Like any multiverse, we're to think that BOTH The Suicide Squad happened exactly as it happened in the Snyderverse AND a different but very similar version of The Suicide Squad also happened but in the Gunnverse (probably identical in its events but only different in some characters' castings), and that's what we're seeing clips from.

Which again, I think is stupid when a much cleaner solution would have just been to send Peacemaker as like a refugee of the Snyderverse into the Gunnverse, killing and replacing his Gunnverse self. Which is what I thought they were doing.

The trailer made is sound like he hopped dimensions, but it sounds like it's not an old DCU/new DCU situation? From the posts on this forum it sounds like the other dimension is just one where everything goes right for him but not the Gunnverse?

Right.

So how does his cameo in the new Superman movie make sense?

Because this Peacemaker has always been in the Gunnverse.

[nidza_maj2000]

Like any multiverse, we're to think that BOTH The Suicide Squad happened exactly as it happened in the Snyderverse AND a different but very similar version of The Suicide Squad also happened but in the Gunnverse (probably identical in its events but only different in some characters' castings), and that's what we're seeing clips from.

Which again, I think is stupid when a much cleaner solution would have just been to send Peacemaker as like a refugee of the Snyderverse into the Gunnverse, killing and replacing his Gunnverse self. Which is what I thought they were doing.



Right.



Because this Peacemaker has always been in the Gunnverse.
So why do you think this is stupid that they just ignored some stuff from DCEU maybe?

[Andrew NDB]

So why do you think this is stupid that they just ignored some stuff from DCEU maybe?

That's not what I said.

[nidza_maj2000]

That's not what I said.

Sorry, what I mean is why do you said this "So I think is stupid when a much cleaner solution would have just been to send Peacemaker as like a refugee of the Snyderverse into the Gunnverse, killing and replacing his Gunnverse self. Which is what I thought they were doing."

[nidza_maj2000]

What I mean is why do you maybe think that it is stupid they just did not maybe use multiverse as a way of bringing Peacemaker in this new universe maybe?

[KaraiLover09]

Andrew's suggestion does sound like the cleaner route.

Or do like Rick and Morty where Peacemaker shows up in this dimension just as the Peacemaker from that one was killed by 'insert-villain-here'.

[nidza_maj2000]

Andrew's suggestion does sound like the cleaner route.

Or do like Rick and Morty where Peacemaker shows up in this dimension just as the Peacemaker from that one was killed by 'insert-villain-here'.
Well in my opinion I am glad most of Peacemaker season 1 happened in DCU and season 2 feels more maybe connected to DCU with references from events of Superman movie, season 1 barely has this which also makes sense because that season takes place before Superman movie and it was made before DCU really started

[nidza_maj2000]

Now Danielle Brooks also shared photo with David in Superman costume that might mean he is definitely one of cameos, this also fits because James Gunn said Man of Tomorrow movie and Peacemaker season 2 are very connected maybe

[nidza_maj2000]

Season 2 episode 4 is really good, next episode will also probably be good because in promo they showed there will be door to another universe which has spiders with skull heads shown in trailers and hopefully that episode will probably setup last 3 episodes of season 2

[nidza_maj2000]

Also season 2 feels more like a connected universe than season 1 which like I said makes sense because when season 1 come out DCU was not established yet

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently the dimension that Peacemaker's closet takes him to may be Earth-X? I guess that checks out.

[nidza_maj2000]

Apparently the dimension that Peacemaker's closet takes him to may be Earth-X? I guess that checks out.

How did you figure it out? You might be right about this

[nidza_maj2000]

Because in season 2 episode 5 promo it seems like Rick Flag Sr will go to Belle Reve Prison would be good if some of Creature Commandos that are there now to make a cameo in live action like GI Robot

[Andrew NDB]

How did you figure it out? You might be right about this

Because it appears to be the Nazi universe.

[nidza_maj2000]

You might be right, so do you also think we might see some Creature Commandos characters in live action in next episode?

[Andrew NDB]

You might be right, so do you also think we might see some Creature Commandos characters in live action in next episode?

That was probably always in the cards this season. But hopefully it is organic TO the season.

[nidza_maj2000]

That was probably always in the cards this season. But hopefully it is organic TO the season.
Yeah, maybe we will see GI Robot

[nidza_maj2000]

Do you think we might see some of them on screen that shows in their prison rooms or something?

[sdp]

man, i hate watching shows week to week. I'm only watching this one since i was marathoning the DCEU and well Peacemaker was part of the DCEU, and now well i want to watch s2 but it's annoying to have to wait, especially when you get some of the slower episodes like last weeks.

[nidza_maj2000]

man, i hate watching shows week to week. I'm only watching this one since i was marathoning the DCEU and well Peacemaker was part of the DCEU, and now well i want to watch s2 but it's annoying to have to wait, especially when you get some of the slower episodes like last weeks.
Well technically now Peacemaker season 1 is part of DCU without Justice League mentions and their cameo in final episode of season 1

[nidza_maj2000]

Superman movie is releasing same day on HBO Max as Peacemaker season 2 episode 5 do you think that means Lex might also appear in this episode and he is prisoner that Rick looks for? Along with possible cameo appearance of some Creature Commandos on monitor that shows their rooms

[nidza_maj2000]

Season 2 episode 5 is really good and next week will be first episode that James Gunn did not show to critics so we and critics will watch last 3 episodes of season 2 at same time, maybe next episode will have some cameos but if not I would not mind either

[Andrew NDB]

This latest episode was kind of lame. Not much happened beyond Rick Flag Sr. punching Peacemaker around, and the Eagle Killer's story coming full circle.

Only 3 episodes left. Kind of strange that we really haven't been introduced to "The Villain" of the season, or the over-arching storyline yet. I'm kind of just left to conclude the alternate reality won't be what Peacemaker thinks it is (it'll be Earth-X), he'll be found out and he'll have to fight his dad and brother. Which seems like a weird plot for a whole season. It seems like a B plot, or a sidestory.

[nidza_maj2000]

This latest episode was kind of lame. Not much happened beyond Rick Flag Sr. punching Peacemaker around, and the Eagle Killer's story coming full circle.

Only 3 episodes left. Kind of strange that we really haven't been introduced to "The Villain" of the season, or the over-arching storyline yet. I'm kind of just left to conclude the alternate reality won't be what Peacemaker thinks it is (it'll be Earth-X), he'll be found out and he'll have to fight his dad and brother. Which seems like a weird plot for a whole season. It seems like a B plot, or a sidestory.

Steve Agee who plays Economous said last 3 episodes of season 2 feel like different season so maybe things will start moving starting next episode with plot and some cameos

[nidza_maj2000]

Also I am wondering how Jaimie who is Blue Beetle would fit in this? Maybe he to help others if there is some big fight on Earth-2 so Leota and others might recruit him

[Andrew NDB]

Also I am wondering how Jaimie who is Blue Beetle would fit in this? Maybe he to help others if there is some big fight on Earth-2 so Leota and others might recruit him

If it's Earth-X, probably we'll see an Earth-X version of Blue Beetle who's fighting against the people like Peacemaker's dad and brother. Gunn can get his "immigrant revenge" story which he's probably keen to do, knowing his sensibilities.

[nidza_maj2000]

If it's Earth-X, probably we'll see an Earth-X version of Blue Beetle who's fighting against the people like Peacemaker's dad and brother.
So his version from main DCU might not appear? Well I would not mind that either because it is still confirmed he exists in main DCU in Creature Commandos episode where that bad future is shown where all heroes are killed, hopefully that future won't come true but this confirms he exists in this universe

[sdp]

This show was better when it was part of the DCEU.

[nidza_maj2000]

This show was better when it was part of the DCEU.
Well I respect your opinion but agree to disagree here we have more continuity with DCU and like I said before now season 1 is also part of this new DCU kind of

[sdp]

It's not a DCEU vs DCU comment, just my way of saying S2 is boring compared to S1

[nidza_maj2000]

It's not a DCEU vs DCU comment, just my way of saying S2 is boring compared to S1

Well even than I might disagree because this season has more of a world building that is also what critics said maybe

[nidza_maj2000]

But I do like both seasons

[nidza_maj2000]

James Gunn teased there might be some other villain in this season we have not seen yet, here it is: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1295873255884719&set=pcb.1295873289218049

[nidza_maj2000]

Here is what Jennifer Holland said about last 3 episodes of season 2, here: https://www.instagram.com/p/DOy5i0SEtnV/ so things will most likely start moving starting next episode

[nidza_maj2000]

James Gunn said some characters from Superman movie will appear in Peacemaker season 2 episode 8

[Andrew NDB]

So yeah...

Lex has a pretty good sized role this episode. And yes, it IS Earth-X.

[Autbot_Benz]

Cool to see lex

[nidza_maj2000]

So yeah...

Lex has a pretty good sized role this episode. And yes, it IS Earth-X.

So I have yet to see this episode but I saw that he appears, so who do you think that guy suiting up in season 2 episode 7 promo is?

[nidza_maj2000]

Well I am on vacation now and in country I am currently in HBO Max is not available so I will probably be able to watch it next Friday when I return to my country along with season 2 episode 7, on bright side I will be able to watch 2 episodes before final episode of season 2 premieres for 2 weeks but I did saw some images that were shared from season 2 episode 6 and it looks really good

[Andrew NDB]

So I have yet to see this episode but I saw that he appears, so who do you think that guy suiting up in season 2 episode 7 promo is?

I think we've seen John Stewart BTS stuff (unless it was from Lanterns), so there's a good chance he'll pop up, whether it's the Earth-X oppressed version or the real deal.

[nidza_maj2000]

I think we've seen John Stewart BTS stuff (unless it was from Lanterns), so there's a good chance he'll pop up, whether it's the Earth-X oppressed version or the real deal.

In promo it looks like he is from main universe

[ZariusTwo]

Epic Games removes the dance emote from Fortnite due to concerns it's connected to Earth-X

https://www.thegamer.com/fortnite-peacemaker-season-2-dance-emote-disabled-episode-6-earth-x-reveal/

[nidza_maj2000]

So on Friday when I watch season 2 episode 6 and probably episode 7 I will write my opinion about them here but I saw in one photo that Vigilante did Spider-Man pointing meme with his counterpart from Earth where Nazi won World War 2 and I am excited to see how that scene plays out

[Andrew NDB]

So in case there was any doubt, Gunn makes it further clear his thoughts on MAGA and even Christianity this episiode.

[nidza_maj2000]

So I watched Peacemaker season 2 episodes 6 and 7 and they are really good, also episode 7 is emotional and I am excited for episode 8 which will be final episode of this season and James Gunn said that episode will be longer than recent episodes

[sdp]

I caught up with the last 3 episodes and they're either more interesting or the show just flows better binge watching it. Still not as fire as the first season but at least the earth x storyline finally got interesting

[Andrew NDB]

But it's 1 episode left and we still don't have the Big Bad this season yet. They did the dad and brother turn that I called already... so what's left? The brother recuperates and comes after him or something real quick?

I do think the stuff about Gunn saying he couldn't find a way to get Superman in this season is probably a lie, but I could be wrong. We have pictures of Corenswet showing up to Peacemaker season 2 in full hair & makeup and costume (and obviously they didn't even start filming this until Superman was done, and there was famously no reshoots for Superman) which we're supposed to believe was just Corenswet stopping by to say "hi"... surely that's B.S.. So maybe somehow Superman becomes entangled in things.

[nidza_maj2000]

He said there will be DCU cameos in season 2 episode 8 that means Blue Beetle from 2023 movie might also appear there

[sdp]

The dad was actually not a Nazi, he was good. But yeah I don't think there's any new twist villain, earth x was the twist, this is why the show felt slow in the middle, it needed something. It they only have one episode left so dalingtwith Argus and the brother is already enough.
I think any DCU cameos at this point will only be something super small like the S1 Justice League ending

[nidza_maj2000]

The dad was actually not a Nazi, he was good. But yeah I don't think there's any new twist villain, earth x was the twist, this is why the show felt slow in the middle, it needed something. It they only have one episode left so dalingtwith Argus and the brother is already enough.
I think any DCU cameos at this point will only be something super small like the S1 Justice League ending

Maybe 11st Street Kids will team up with some DCU heroes so they can save Chris from jail

[nidza_maj2000]

So which dimension with candies do you guys think it is in Peacemaker season 2 episode 8 promo?

[Andrew NDB]

Final episode was lame. Basically episode 7 was the finale and this was like an epilogue. No big surprises or any appearances except for Otis.

So which dimension with candies do you guys think it is in Peacemaker season 2 episode 8 promo?

For a moment I thought we were going to see Mxyzptlyk. But it was nothing. All the dimensions they visit in this were nothing. The one they're making the prison planet MIGHT be the Kamandi Earth, but who even cares.

[nidza_maj2000]

Final episode was lame. Basically episode 7 was the finale and this was like an epilogue. No big surprises or any appearances except for Otis.



For a moment I thought we were going to see Mxyzptlyk. But it was nothing. All the dimensions they visit in this were nothing. The one they're making the prison planet MIGHT be the Kamandi Earth, but who even cares.
So I will watch this episode later but I heard there are not any cameos from DCU and that ending with Chris (which I heard) might be resolved in Man of Tomorrow movie, also why did you think James Gunn teased Blue Beetle appearance? Maybe he will appear in Lanterns

[Autbot_Benz]

Ya the finale was a big nothing burger of an episode

[Andrew NDB]

Ya the finale was a big nothing burger of an episode

Absolutely nothing. So Peacemaker's people form Checkmate? Big whoop. Who cares about Checkmate? And lots of time wasted on schmaltzy stuff with Gunn's favorite weird bands.

[nidza_maj2000]

Why do you guys think he teased Blue Beetle appearance?

[sdp]

The final episode and I guess series finale as James Gunn said it's the last one just sets up a bunch of plot points for future shows/movies.

[nidza_maj2000]

The final episode and I guess series finale as James Gunn said it's the last one just sets up a bunch of plot points for future shows/movies.
You are right about this probably, also I guess that Blue Beetle might be in Lanterns but let's keep our expectations low maybe

[nidza_maj2000]

There were talks between James Gunn and Ryan Reynolds for Deadpool to appear in one of doors in Peacemaker season 2, hopefully they can make this happen in Man of Tomorrow movie because it might also feature this chamber with doors to other universes

[Andrew NDB]

There were talks between James Gunn and Ryan Reynolds for Deadpool to appear in one of doors in Peacemaker season 2

Wouldn't there need to be talks between Zaslav and Feige/Iger first, at that point?

[nidza_maj2000]

Wouldn't there need to be talks between Zaslav and Feige/Iger first, at that point?
Well yeah and I think that James Gunn said among lines is rights are reason it did not happen here but I think it might happen in Man of Tomorrow movie, guess we have to wait and see what will happen

[Andrew NDB]

Well yeah and I think that James Gunn said among lines is rights are reason it did not happen here but I think it might happen in Man of Tomorrow movie, guess we have to wait and see what will happen

Deadpool showing up in the big Brainiac movie? Probably "slim to 0" chances of that happening.

[nidza_maj2000]

Deadpool showing up in the big Brainiac movie? Probably "slim to 0" chances of that happening.
But maybe chamber will appear in this movie

[CyberCubed]

Why did they spend so much time on the fat black woman (I can't pronounce her name) and her lesbian wife breaking up? Did anyone even care about that pairing? The scene went on so long like it was some major plot line in the show but the lesbian wife barely appeared before this.

[Andrew NDB]

Why did they spend so much time on the fat black woman (I can't pronounce her name) and her lesbian wife breaking up? Did anyone even care about that pairing? The scene went on so long like it was some major plot line in the show

It did, didn't it? It was like, "Ohhh-kay. Here we go, here comes the lesbian melodrama" expecting it to be over pretty quickly. But it just kept going and going. And then the stupid concert with Peacemaker and Gunn's wife stuff. It's like Gunn was having a big party for himself tailored to things only he finds interesting after blowing the rest of the season's budget on the previous episode.

Mostly I was constantly looking at my watch going, "Damn. We're running out of time for there to be a meaningful Superman/Blue Beetle/Peacemaker's Brother/_______ appearance or any kind of satisfying final battle with anybody." And then it was over. That was the whole episode.

[nidza_maj2000]

It did, didn't it? It was like, "Ohhh-kay. Here we go, here comes the lesbian melodrama" expecting it to be over pretty quickly. But it just kept going and going. And then the stupid concert with Peacemaker and Gunn's wife stuff. It's like Gunn was having a big party for himself tailored to things only he finds interesting after blowing the rest of the season's budget on the previous episode.

Mostly I was constantly looking at my watch going, "Damn. We're running out of time for there to be a meaningful Superman/Blue Beetle/Peacemaker's Brother/_______ appearance or any kind of satisfying final battle with anybody." And then it was over. That was the whole episode.
When I watch it later today I will write my opinion about it here

[Jester]

The last 2 episodes wrapped up way to easily for me. I figured once Earth-X was revealed it'd be more than just a "mirror to modern America" they immediately escape but the main threat of the season. WRONG.

I'll admit Cena's performance is probably the best part of the episode, but he sure got over the, "I'm the angel of death" emotional trauma as soon as the 11th Streeters all told him how awesome he is.
I mean the final (and longest, as promoted by Gunn himself) episode really only did a few things:

1. Chris arrested.(though this happened last episode)
2. Chris released on bail thanks to Adebayo (and Vigilante's amassed blood money).
3. The gang finds Chris after he bails on them and they give him a pep-talk.
4. The gang forms Checkmate. (You wanna talk waste of episode time talk to me about Tim Meadows and Vigilante talking about spider facts.)
5. Chris is kidnapped and sent to the Not-Phantom Zone.

Everything else is just filler...except maybe Chris and Harcourt's dates.

And were they setting up that Flag Sr. is from one of the alt-dimensions? His behavior (like Economos says in his conversation with Harcourt about being so chummy with Luthor and his cronies) and how he reacted to Harcourt calling him General instead of Rick.

Also Gunn says this runs right into Man of Tomorrow, but does that mean you have to have watched Peacemaker Season 2 to follow MoT? If so that seems like a steep Demographic whiplash. I mean, Peacemaker is TV-MA (including a montage over the song F***ing my Heart in the A** in this very episode). MoT (like nearly every mainstream superhero movie) is likely going to be PG-13, but you know younger kids will be brought by their parents. I'm not sure how much, aside from the dimensional gateways and the meta prison, will play a part in MoT.

I'm really not sure I'm feeling James Gunn's DCU (brought to you by Carl's Jr.)

[nidza_maj2000]

There will also be Salvation storyline in Lanterns series, here it is: https://www.instagram.com/p/DPov-P6Dfcp/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MXY2cjNjbmNwYXpyYg== also maybe we should create new thread for Lanterns series once trailer drops maybe if there is not one on this forum? I can do that when trailer drops so we can discus that series there

[sdp]

So, i'm probably the only one who cares about this, but we understand for the most part how much of TSS & Season 1 also took place in the DCU. BUT...

How much of Season 2 do you think took place in the DCEU. I mean for the most part I think a lot of it could still happen, hell even stuff like the reference to creature commando's we can just assume that show also happened in the DCEU. The big problems are the references to the Superman movie with the portal incident and Lex Luthor helping. I guess we could've had similar or even different dimensional portal event in the DCEU that Luthor was a part of, and well I also can see Jesse Eisenberg's Luthor helping Rick Flag. I don't know, just fun to speculate since Peacemaker did start out as a DCEU character.

[Andrew NDB]

So, i'm probably the only one who cares about this, but we understand for the most part how much of TSS & Season 1 also took place in the DCU. BUT...

How much of Season 2 do you think took place in the DCEU. I mean for the most part I think a lot of it could still happen, hell even stuff like the reference to creature commando's we can just assume that show also happened in the DCEU. The big problems are the references to the Superman movie with the portal incident and Lex Luthor helping. I guess we could've had similar or even different dimensional portal event in the DCEU that Luthor was a part of, and well I also can see Jesse Eisenberg's Luthor helping Rick Flag. I don't know, just fun to speculate since Peacemaker did start out as a DCEU character.

It's not a bad question, but to me it feels like Gunn would like to completely disassociate from the DCEU/Snyderverse as quickly as possible. Retroactively even, if possible.

[nidza_maj2000]

So I watched Peacemaker season 2 episode 8 and I kind of like it, also if there is one thing good about it is it sets up Salvation story in DCU, also with revalation that Lanterns will also feature Salvation hopefully Chris and others from this series could guest star at least in one episode

[CyberCubed]

Another thing that felt off about this season, Peacemaker himself was hardly the focus of it. It felt more like it was about all the other characters than Peacemaker himself. John Cena was like a side character in his own series.

[nidza_maj2000]

So I am just curious about this, here: how likely do you guys think it is for Chris to appear in Lanterns series? Because they will probably explore Salvation in at least 1 episode of that series

[CyberCubed]

Also how did the fat black woman climb over the fence when she was being chased by the Nazi's on the street? She had to climb over it to get to the backyard where the pool was. There's no way with her weight that she could lift her leg up that high and believeably be able to outrun the mob that was chasing her.

I'm pretty sure fat people do not have any athletic ability? It really took me out of the episode, I don't know why James Gunn thought fat people could make that climb and lift herself over the fence.