View Full Version : $69.99 games are the standard now for next-gen
CyberCubed
10-16-2020, 09:59 AM
How do you guys feel? Most PS5/Xbox games are now going to be priced regularly at $69.99, an increase over the $59.99 standard since the PS3/360 era.
I'll probably be buying far less games brand new (oh who am I kidding, I haven't bought a game at full price in at least a decade already), but I'm curious how many of you feel about this. Switch games should remain $59.99 for the forseeable future at least.
AquaParade
10-16-2020, 10:07 AM
If anything, I see it as a potential positive if we can get the extra $10 out of the way as opposed to developers trying to nickel & dime us while we play the game. Sure, they may still try, but there has been a lot of push back and this could help alleviate the issue.
Another thing to consider is there may be more flexibility in pricing. Games like "Lost Odyssey" and "Miles Morales" are showing you can do great games with smaller scopes and a cheaper price. I like having those type of options, because as much as I love single-player games, I don't need them to all be upwards of 10 hours. I enjoy a well-paced, dense experience that I can replay.
Edit: Meant "Lost Legacy".
Ridiculous since they'll still be bloated with microtransactions and DLC, but yeah I mostly buy games on sale with rare exceptions and only console I care to own is Nintendo's, I'm pretty much done with console gaming otherwise. Play on PC I can wait for things to get cheap on steam and play on my PC or my VR headset so for me there's no need for consoles any longer in 2020 outside Nintendo.
Sucks for those who are going to be gaming on PS5/Xbox.
AquaParade
10-16-2020, 10:58 AM
Well, that sort of paints a wide brush on every developer, which can be inaccurate. Not every developer implements micro-transactions right now. You have developers like CDPR and Naughty Dog who are making very dense games and giving away free updates.
Thank God for game pass.
Also, Lost Odyssey is a game from like 2007.
AquaParade
10-16-2020, 11:36 AM
Whoops. I was thinking of "Lost Legacy", the Uncharted game. But yeah, it certainly makes Game Pass all the more valuable.
CyberCubed
10-16-2020, 12:36 PM
Sadly I still have to get a PS5 because I like Sony's exclusives, and there's no other places to play most of them.
Demon Souls, Spiderman, Ratchet and Clank, the next God of War and Horizon 2, and whatever Naughty Dog does next (The Last of Us Part 3 or another Uncharted), are all still exclusive besides the years late port of Horizon on PC. If Sony's games weren't still exclusive to PS5...I probably wouldn't have a reason to get a PS5 at all. But I also buy third party games there too.
turtle1237
10-16-2020, 12:52 PM
Perhaps had the system came out a year or so ago, but in the USA a good part of the country is still in lockdown. There really not going to have the money to spend about 70 bucks on.
Andrew NDB
10-16-2020, 05:49 PM
Meh. By the time it is worth it to buy a PS5 I doubt it will still be the case.
CyberCubed
10-16-2020, 06:29 PM
Perhaps had the system came out a year or so ago, but in the USA a good part of the country is still in lockdown. There really not going to have the money to spend about 70 bucks on.
PS5 pre-orders and Xbox pre-orders are already off the charts. "Gamers" don't care about a pandemic, they spend their money on games.
Leo656
10-16-2020, 07:01 PM
It's among the very best ways to pass the time while you're "not allowed" outside, if nothing else.
CyberCubed
10-16-2020, 08:04 PM
I mean people also have enough money to spend. PS5 costs between $399-499 depending on the model, and the next Xbox is $299-$399 as well. Couple that with a few games and maybe a second controller...you're already spending nearly $1000 just on games.
Despite the "pandemic" the fact that all these millions of people have nearly $1000 to just spend on videogames this November says enough in itself.
Leo656
10-16-2020, 08:19 PM
Not me, I blew it all on toys. :lol:
To be fair, I NEVER buy consoles within the first 2 years of release as a general rule, because the hardware is always faulty and there's barely any good games out yet, anyway. So I wasn't getting the new XBox or the PS5, regardless. I don't even have a PS4 yet. Literally every game I would wanna play on PS4 came out on XBox One as well except for, like, three or four games. Not a good investment from my personal position, I'll end up playing those games One Day anyway. I'm fine with that.
By this point I expect those games will be re-released and re-re-remastered for PS5, so I feel less bad about skipping the PS4. By the time I get around to the "new" consoles coming out this year, they'll be much more reasonably-priced and have lots of good games out for them.
Not to mention, all those "$69.99" games will be about $20 by then, too. :tgrin:
I have to admit that I always shake my head at the early-adopters of consoles. They're always the most expensive and worst possible version of the hardware. When it comes to game consoles it definitely pays to wait a while. I do kinda get the "I just don't wanna wait" thing but in the end my money's more valuable than that. I'm perfectly fine with delaying gratification. I'm also kind of a cheap bastard. :trazz:
CyberCubed
10-16-2020, 11:36 PM
I usually wait 2 years in for non-Nintendo consoles. The PS4 came out in 2013, but I got mine in 2015. Same for PS3...it came out in 2006 but I waited till 2008 and got the one bundled with Metal Gear Solid 4.
Funnily enough all my old consoles still work to this day. My PS3 from 2008 works fine 12 years later, I always read online people saying their consoles died or they had to buy "2 or 3" of the same console...I've never done that.
I have my Super Nintendo from 1992 and it still works as well! Hell, even my NES from 1988 that got when I was 3 years old, but I haven't plugged it in for about 15 years so maybe it doesn't, heh.
Wildcat
10-17-2020, 12:00 AM
I usually wait for price drops.
I mentioned in another thread buying new gen consoles are not worth it because we know Slims are being made and there’s often technical problems at first.
$70 is way too expensive for new releases regardless if you can afford it. Also big games tend to get special editions with all extra content included.
Andrew NDB
10-17-2020, 12:20 AM
Yeah, I'm definitely not going to, like, buy Grand Theft Auto 5 for the third time at $69.
Roseangelo
10-18-2020, 02:10 AM
I just play Nintendo. The top level games are $60 and considering that I've put 800+ hours into Animal Crossing, I've gotten my money's worth.
But there are also a lot of great games in the eShop for $20 or less.
Andrew NDB
10-18-2020, 02:32 AM
I just play Nintendo. The top level games are $60 and considering that I've put 800+ hours into Animal Crossing, I've gotten my money's worth.
But there are also a lot of great games in the eShop for $20 or less.
Definitely play Nintendo, too. Though I'm like the worst video game player. I'll buy everything there is (even PS VR) and games and play each game for 2 hours and then... never again.
Lately, though, I've been playing the Kingdom Hearts trilogy on PS4 digital edition that my daughter begged me to get then similarly abandoned when it got too hard for her. I mean, I'd beaten part 1 20 years ago, so now I'm wading through part 2. Not bad.
AquaParade
10-21-2020, 06:25 PM
I'm buying a Series X at launch. It's the first time I've ever bought a console at launch so that makes it sort of exciting for me.
I haven't owned or played an Xbox since 360 so aside from downloading some of my old favorite games and checking them out with updated graphics, I'll be diving into the Master Chief Collection for the first time. I've played most of the games before, but it will be fun to go through the improved version with my friend who has a PC. That alone makes the upgrade pretty much worth it, since none of my friends either have a Playstation or play the same games I do.
Meh. By the time it is worth it to buy a PS5 I doubt it will still be the case.
Remember when brand new NES games (cartridges) were always basically 60 bucks?
Yeah, with inflation NES games would have been like $119 so $70 isn't even that bad.
AquaParade
10-22-2020, 11:15 AM
Honestly, it's silly to expect video games to stay the same price after 10+ years. Everything else is subjective to inflation, let alone the expanded scope of these games.
CyberCubed
10-22-2020, 12:27 PM
I remember buying Mortal Kombat Trilogy on N64 for $69.99 back in 1997. I remember my parents not wanting to spend $70 on me for videogames...which back in 90's money...was insane.
$70 is a lot of money now just for 1 game...now imagine that back in the 90's. Yikes.
Most N64 games were either 49.99 or 59.99 at most stores only EB games, Babbages and the like charged way more for N64 games. As a kid I always wondered who paid those extra $10 at those stores. I remember when games were only the "big" gifts either at birthday parties and christmas so you had to be careful with what you chose but it also meant you spent hours and hours on that game which isn't as much the case anymore.
The cost of those games was because of cartridges for the most part so the whole "inflation" is not a great way to defend the rise in cost when there are many other factors that lead to that price point but whatever.
At least back in the day you could return games and buy used, sure that still exists but it's not as prevalent, especially since a large portion buys digitally. And are there even places that rent games anymore? Of course this will only help streaming gaming services become more popular in the future and services like game pass.
CyberCubed
10-22-2020, 08:51 PM
Digital rentals are pretty much Xbox Game Pass and PSNow, both services allow you to "rent" hundreds of games for as long as you have an active subscription. You don't own any of the games on Xbox Game Pass or PS Now, but you have them as long as your subscription is going.
It's kind of funny because digital games are basically just really long rentals.
AquaParade
10-24-2020, 07:33 AM
Inflation is definitely still a strong argument. Especially because 10 years ago, games were already on discs.
Leo656
10-24-2020, 08:50 AM
Considering how few "Big" or "Must Play" games come out every year nowadays compared to the past, it all kind of evens out, I guess.
Games cost more to develop now, with that pie getting split between an ever-growing pool of people, but there are fewer games overall coming out each year. It kinda makes sense that they'd have to make up the difference somewhere. It's like that with anything; If a company used to have 100 different products to sell, and now they only have 50, it's not crazy to expect that they'd end up charging slightly more for the remainder to make up for some of the assumed loss. Makes sense to me.
I mean... I buy maybe ONE new game a year, and buy 99% of the Used, anyway, so this kinda won't affect me too much. :trazz: But it doesn't seem altogether unreasonable.
shredder orokusaki
10-25-2020, 12:35 PM
As a PC gamer it dont matter to me because 60 is the standard for years(while few years ago it was 50).
neatoman
10-25-2020, 07:12 PM
We can assume most games will drop in price eventually, so even if a game starts off $70, six months later it's probably down to $50 and eventually $25 or less. Provided there are physical copies, a used market will ensure a drop in price anyway.
CyberCubed
10-26-2020, 01:33 PM
A lot of people are always in a rush to buy games day 1, even if they don't even play them or play like 2-3 hours and don't touch again for months. I'll never understand that, if I buy a game I intend to play it, and I only play one game at a time till I complete it or do what I want to before I move on.
I play around 100-200 games every year, mostly replaying old games and new ones, and I have time to play them all. Of course I don't really play online multiplayer much as it's a waste of time, so people who just play online all the time obviously cuts into your play time.
Cyndaquilfan123
11-02-2020, 02:36 PM
I'm honestly surprised it didn't happen sooner.
CyberCubed
11-02-2020, 03:00 PM
I haven't spent more than $35-$40 on a game in a long time. In fact I can't even remember the last time I spent $59.99 on a game either.
Last Ronin
11-02-2020, 04:39 PM
$70 for games GTFO. I'd never pay that much unless it gave me a good old fashion reach around and took me behind a Denny's.
Leo656
11-02-2020, 04:43 PM
There are GameStops where you can make this dream a reality, but they tend to be in neighborhoods where it's not safe to walk home alone after.
Just saying, there are ways.
Last Ronin
11-02-2020, 04:45 PM
Where? Asking for a friend.
Leo656
11-02-2020, 05:24 PM
I only know of one off the top of my head, but it's right... down there.
"Down Where...?"
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/97/90/16/9790163b2f8a90f6da27b34a182dd5a9.gif
Hah hah hah haaaaaaaaaa, I miss when that joke was all the rage. I'm gonna bring it back or die tryin'. :tgrin:
https://i.imgur.com/tWUv9Az.jpg
Last Ronin
11-02-2020, 06:44 PM
I only know of one off the top of my head, but it's right... down there.
"Down Where...?"
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/97/90/16/9790163b2f8a90f6da27b34a182dd5a9.gif
Hah hah hah haaaaaaaaaa, I miss when that joke was all the rage. I'm gonna bring it back or die tryin'. :tgrin:
You will be missed.
Also I do smell broke in here, bunch of poor people eeew. And here I thought the technodrome was all high class.
CyberCubed
11-02-2020, 09:31 PM
I am "El Cheapo," a penny-pincher. I have enough money to buy virtually anything I want right now, but I don't do it. My money stays in the bank. I get everything for as cheap (or in some cases, totally free), as I can. Unlike others I do not splurge, I hold every penny down to the cent.
Leo656
11-02-2020, 09:36 PM
That'll get you laid.
Last Ronin
11-02-2020, 09:37 PM
That'll get you laid.
A dolla makes me holla
I like how in another thread you're wondering if you're getting old...while referencing ****ing Honey Boo-Boo.
Last Ronin
11-03-2020, 10:00 PM
I like how in another thread you're wondering if you're getting old...while referencing ****ing Honey Boo-Boo.
Uh... this saying has been around long before that I'm pretty sure. Also I had to look up Honey Boo-Boo to be sure. And yeah no, never seen that show.
CyberCubed
11-14-2020, 05:22 PM
So I bought Game Pass for PC, since I don't own an Xbox. It's only $1 for a full month so I might as well. Since I am a Nintendo and Sony gamer, I've never played any Xbox exclusive franchises.
I'm gonna start with Sunset Overdrive since I heard good things and its made by Insomniac. I've never played any of the Halo or Gears games, I'm thinking of just plowing through the single player campaigns of them all but not bothering with the multiplayer just to see what they're like. But I'm gonna stick with Sunset Overdrive till I finish it first.
Also sadly PC Gamepass doesn't have as many games as Xbox Gamepass does, so there's a lot less games available. No EA games yet, no Ace Combat 7...hopefully they add this stuff before my month is up.
Zulithe
11-14-2020, 05:48 PM
I don't see it so much that 69.99 is the standard, just that they are embracing pricing tiers more broadly than before. Some games will be 59.99, some 69.99, heck some will be 49.99 and 39.99 and below. Last gen, they were afraid to go to 69.99 and instead relied on other methods to boost the price, like DLC, season passes, whatever. That's still happening of course, but by allowing different standard prices of entry, some times will hopefully rely on that less.
You can still get great deals. I just got AC: Valhalla PS5 version (not the PS4 upgrade version) at Target for $34.60 shipped with their current promo. Standard version, but it's still full of content. if I like it enough, i can buy the season pass later.
All I'm trying to say is, some games going to 69.99 isn't going to have that huge an impact on what most people spend over the course of a console generation. Look for deals, be patient, don't buy every game brand new right out of the gate except for that 1 or 2 a year that you absolutely need on day 1.
Oh yeah, and then there's the fact that Nintendo is sticking to 59.99, at least for the time being. I probably buy more full-priced games on their platform than anywhere else.
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