Predator 5

[Andrew NDB]

Well, this is surprising. It gets a 4th chance, now? (Predators was the 2nd, The Predator was the 3rd)

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/predator-5-sequel-director-10-cloverfield-lane-franchise/

[raph27]

I guess they think third time's the charm... yet I doubt this will kickstart a new franchise any more than the last two did.

[Andrew NDB]

I guess they think third time's the charm... yet I doubt this will kickstart a new franchise any more than the last two did.

I hate to wonder, but maybe they're like, "What's the one thing we haven't tried... ah! A PG-13 Predator movie!!!" I wouldn't even see it.

[TMNTFanatic4Life]

All I have to say is....GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!

[Andrew NDB]

Looks like it may be a prequel, set around Native American tribes:

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2020/11/20/predator-5-is-coming-directed-by-10-cloverfield-lanes-dan-trachtenberg/?fbclid=IwAR3zwyN9gyBczEU00f96p-Cd06209I714_C2hDJdfEEjGRchVFpJecBz8Ok

[Allio]

Predator as a horror movie no longer even works. The "Fear" of the original was just simply we didn't know of him. At this point the Predator really will only work as a an action flick (AVP) or Something where we get to learn more of it's aliens (like how Predators took place on a Predator hunting ground.)

[Barkworm]

At this point in my life, I am basically done with movie franchises. Everything has become an adaptation, a sequel, a reboot, a mild reboot, a re-imagining, it is boring as ****.

[Andrew NDB]

At this point in my life, I am basically done with movie franchises. Everything has become an adaptation, a sequel, a reboot, a mild reboot, a re-imagining, it is boring as ****.

I wasn't this way 5 years ago. But kind of... becoming this way, yes.

In this particular case, best case scenario. They keep it R but lower budget. Experimental. Artsy. Maybe there's something there with something like Predators visiting Native American tribes way back. Who knows.

Though even if it is a hit. Where do you go from there? Doesn't seem a thing with growth beyond itself. But maybe that's fine.

[neatoman]

Remember how the last one was supposed to end with Ripley from Alien showing up? Not really sure why they would want to make Alien vs Predator 3, as that would imply, so it's probably a good idea to cut it. Still, it would have obviously been a different version of Ripley, unless time travel is involved... Would anyone accept a version of Ripley not played by Weaver?

[Sumac]

Last movie had autism as a new step of evolution and Predators trying to colonize the Earth, because, of global warming.

How much of this **** will be in the next movie?

[Barkworm]

I wasn't this way 5 years ago.
Me neither. I think it started with Episode VII for me. While I liked that movie when it first came out, it became really obvious to me that Hollywood was going to play things safe forever. Making new stuff (at least Blockbuster wise) seems too risky.

The last sequel thingy I watched in a theatre was Blade Runner 2049 and I loved everything about it, it was clever, artsy (but not obnoxiously so), it took its time. But it flopped and that's just depressing.

[AquaParade]

Just like Terminator, I think they need a fresh approach. When something is as tired as this franchise, subverting expectations can be a great trick. Flip it into an actual horror film ala the first alien or make the next unexpected badass superhero out of the Predator. Let's get weird because nothing has been great since the original movie.

If not that, let's at least get back to a one-on-one fight night event worthy duel with a badass lead and some practical, visceral effects.

Orrrr, get Neil Blomkamp on it. His concepts for the Alien franchise were really interesting.

[Last Ronin]

This cow has alot of milk to give and it's spoiled. The last Predator movie sucked

[Andrew NDB]

So they want a young cast:

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/02/10/first-possible-predator-5-skulls-character-details-emerge/?fbclid=IwAR0o4mbmNl_GI24aqLxU4naHAiUYaLc0EKRwuJSM EFeyofV7mAsjwGvbTaQ

[Sumac]

If this is like their last attempt, they might just as well put this **** somewhere in the dark corner of the a random warehouse or flush it into the toilet. I am sure, somehow it would be more productive than releasing this crap onto the unsuspecting world.

[Andrew NDB]

It's filming soon. The main actress is cast.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/amber-midthunder-leads-new-predator/

[Andrew NDB]

More details. The director kind of sounds pretty full of himself here. "I know exactly what worked about the first movie" and "this will be the 2nd best movie at least"... hold on, man.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-details-on-new-predator-film/

Also, "it could easily end up as PG-13." So in other words no, he doesn't understand much.

[Sumac]

And the last movie was written by the guy who worked on the first one as well and the result...?
Yeah, I don't buy those boasts.

[Andrew NDB]

And the last movie was written by the guy who worked on the first one as well and the result...?
Yeah, I don't buy those boasts.

I kind of feel for Black. I would've liked to have seen his original version of The Predator to judge before Fox made him reshoot the whole last third. He still hasn't done even 1 interview about it since.

But yeesh. This new guy is saying a PREDATOR movie is OK in PG-13? You've completely lost me, if that's the case.

[TigerClaw]

I kind of feel for Black. I would've liked to have seen his original version of The Predator to judge before Fox made him reshoot the whole last third. He still hasn't done even 1 interview about it since.

But yeesh. This new guy is saying a PREDATOR movie is OK in PG-13? You've completely lost me, if that's the case.
Let's not forget that Disney owns Predator since they own Fox. They could ask for a PG-13 version to appeal to a larger audience, You know to make more money from it.

[Leo656]

Murder aliens who hunt people for sport.

...FOR THE KIDZ!!!

[Andrew NDB]

Let's not forget that Disney owns Predator since they own Fox. They could ask for a PG-13 version to appeal to a larger audience, You know to make more money from it.

They could do that if they want nobody to show up for it. Predator is about a hunting alien race that rips out spines and polishes skulls.

Somehow this is still coming out under the Fox banner. Which is interesting. Assumedly also how Disney can circumnavigate R-rated worries. Deadpool 3, which has been confirmed and re-confirmed as being R about 20 times now, may come out under the same banner.

[NinjaPug]

There was a rumor that this would be a Hulu exclusive movie. If that's the case there is zero reason for this not to be rated R.

Also those dumb comments were from a producer and not the director. Most producers are just attached financially and are nothing more than cheerleaders who have no input on the creative decisions (Avi Arad with Spider-Man and Jon Peters with Superman). To me, his comments came off like that.

[Sumac]

I kind of feel for Black. I would've liked to have seen his original version of The Predator to judge before Fox made him reshoot the whole last third. He still hasn't done even 1 interview about it since.
There were much bigger problems than the last third though.
I'd say like a lot about this movie was problematic on a conceptual and general story levels.

[sdp]

predators are a kids property, I asked santa for the kenner toys, just like TMNT it might've had its start as a rated R property but it quickly became for kids as it's very action figure friendly. In fact there's new predator toys in the little kids aisles at walmart right now.
The concept is a bit silly for a normal adult now.

[oldmanwinters]

just like TMNT it might've had its start as a rated R property but it quickly became for kids as it's very action figure friendly.

I don't know that I'd consider any of the early Mirage comics "R-rated." Interestingly, the PG-13 category was introduced in July of 1984, with the first Turtles comics having hit the stands a few months earlier. Eastman & Laird strategically self-censor most of the gore-violence by putting it slightly out of panel. And the language isn't heavy with particularly colorful profanities or obscenities. Some of the "ladies of the night" wear provocative clothing but I don't remember any explicit nudity in any E&L books (maybe the exception being a Bode guest issue). It definitely ain't Robocop.

[IMJ]

Shane Black churned out Iron Man 3 and The Predator. Doesn't matter how much I love Lethal Weapon - he's dead to me. :teek:

[Sumac]

Hands off of Iron Man 3!

[Andrew NDB]

Every non big budget studio movie he's made has been awesome. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, The Nice Guys... brilliant. I think he's too scared to come off as "difficult to work with" when handed huge budget movies (IM3, The Predator) that he just basically does whatever the studio/producers ask with no resistance. And we end up with by-committee reedited things.

[AquaParade]

The premise sounds cool at least. I think they have the right idea. Go smaller, not bigger.

Terminator needs to do the same, if it wants to stick around.

[Andrew NDB]

Terminator needs to do the same, if it wants to stick around.

Sheesh... I don't know. Terminator is pretty radioactive as a property right now after not one, not two but THREE failed trilogy starters. And all the time travel mess leftover.

Predator has had basically two failed starters. "Predators" was clearly supposed to lead to if not a trilogy, at least some kind of continuation. Rodriguez said so. "The Predator," a trilogy for sure. But even with both of these, I wouldn't say the franchise was "damaged" as a result. You can just ignore them or move past them just fine. Terminator? The only possible way forward would be to void like half of the movie series or more... and it's just going to be messy.

[Leo656]

Sheesh... I don't know. Terminator is pretty radioactive as a property right now after not one, not two but THREE failed trilogy starters. And all the time travel mess leftover.

Predator has had basically two failed starters. "Predators" was clearly supposed to lead to if not a trilogy, at least some kind of continuation. Rodriguez said so. "The Predator," a trilogy for sure. But even with both of these, I wouldn't say the franchise was "damaged" as a result. You can just ignore them or move past them just fine. Terminator? The only possible way forward would be to void like half of the movie series or more... and it's just going to be messy.

Yeah, it's like, they sell those Terminator box sets on Blu-ray, and it's like, "Please just ignore that more than half of these movies completely contradict the others." :lol:

I mean it's a good way for someone who just wants to own all the movies to get them in one clean shot for cheap, but what lunatic would actually sit and watch them in order as if they actually tell a cohesive story? Your brain would literally start leaking out of your ears before too long. :lol:

Also? I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again, but I think the world would keep spinning just fine if we never got another Terminator movie.

[Allio]

The problem with predator films is that they will never be able to capture the same “magic” that was the first film. When it comes to horror movie franchises once you open Pandora’s box, it will never not be opened. How many timelines does Texas Chainsaw massacre have?

The only films that have worked are Friday the 13th and Child’s play (and that’s because the franchise accepted that it’s schlocky films and have fun with it) and the Alien sequel with Aliens (and that’s because it goes from horror to action, so I don’t think that counts.

Terminator itself? At least it had potential with it’s story. Which honestly does the whole alien/aliens where it goes from horror to action. But it’s problem lies that no one seems to know how to do it.

Honestly from a “lore” perspective I’ve been enjoying Dark Horse comics on the matter, but those clearly aren’t the type of stories they want for the films.

[Leo656]

How many timelines does Texas Chainsaw massacre have?


I wanted to give you a real answer, so I tried looking it up, but apparently it's impossible to reconcile anything cleanly with anything else, aside from the very first two movies (which 3D sort of fits with if you squint). Every single other movie contradicts the other movies so much that every one is like a reboot to itself.

I found a pretty okay article about it.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3420042/lets-try-figure-wacky-texas-chainsaw-massacre-timeline/

Also, not a big Texas Chainsaw guy. Not sure why. Thought the original was overrated. "Next Generation" was the worst movie I'd ever seen, for a long time. Those are the two I've seen the most and neither of them impressed me.

[Andrew NDB]

The Texas Chainsaw series are completely radioactive. It's even worse than the Halloween movies. It's like... there's 1 and 2 and 3 that kind of work together... then 4 is just nuts. After that I guess they keep trying to do sequels to the first movie that ignore or negate the other movies, even now. And then there's the 2 movie remake/reboot with Jessica Biel. I enjoyed those 2.

[Allio]

Going back I did enjoy the remake better than I did before. I know when I was kid, for whatever reason, I always got the remake and house of 1000 corpses confused as one film.

It’s definitely one of THOSE franchises the only one worse than that is probably the Godzilla films and that has like 8 timelines

[Leo656]

"House of 1000 Corpses" definitely is more or less just a Texas Chainsaw remake. That's part of why after hearing about it for years, during the time nobody would release it to theaters and everything and it was this Big Controversial Movie that was "too hot for Hollywood", when I finally saw it I was like... "That's the big deal? It's just Texas Chainsaw if someone tried to edit it like a music video."

I expected more from a "visionary" like Rob Zombie. I hadn't noticed yet that most of his musical output is remixes of his own material, more than any original works. So it stands to reason that his movies would in turn be remixes of someone else's material, as well.

I guess back then I just assumed the guy had more imagination than that. But yeah, I don't really like that movie.

[Allio]

Personally preferred the sequel, Devil’s rejects, over the first film

[Leo656]

Oh, definitely. Much, much better movie. Not even close.

[Andrew NDB]

I saw House of 1000 Corpses but never saw Devil's Rejects. House of 1000 Corpses was... OK, not great. It certainly didn't get me excited for more.

[Leo656]

HOW did you never see Devil's Rejects?

One of the best things about it is that if you want to you can just ignore the first one entirely, as they're very different films tonally and stylistically. "Rejects" is more like a 70s throwback, really gritty and grimy. Outside of the characters the two movies have very little to do with each other.

To me, it's like "Corpses" tries to "entertain" you while "Rejects" tries to make the viewer legitimately uncomfortable in a way horror movies generally aren't "allowed" to do anymore.

"3 From Hell" was okay. It retconned the ending of "Rejects", so I wasn't thrilled about that, and I'm not sure anything about it really justified its existence after "Rejects" tied things up so neatly. BUT, it's not bad or anything.

"Rejects" was definitely the runaway winner of that trilogy. I'd put 3 From Hell right behind it and Corpses in last place easily.

[Allio]

Have not gotten around to seeing 3 from hell yet. I want to do a marathon but I haven’t gotten a chance.

[Sumac]

Predator has advantage over Terminator, that its smaller, has only 1(2) good movie(s) and nothing else. No-one expects anything special from it, which leaves plenty of room for experimentation, but each time, those experiments end up being screwed up.

Overall it is definitely on the lower tier of the famous 80s franchises.

[Leo656]

Have not gotten around to seeing 3 from hell yet. I want to do a marathon but I haven’t gotten a chance.

It was a LOT better than I expected, and probably better than it should have been as "sequels that come out 15 years later than they should have" go.

But if you thought the ending of "Rejects" was where the story should have ended, you probably won't be swayed too much from that opinion. Although the whole bit with them getting out of prison and everything is honestly pretty fun and interesting.

It's good, it's just not like mind-blowing or anything. "They didn't die in 'Rejects', then years later they get out and kill a bunch more people." That's pretty much the plot. But it's fun, I liked it.

We did a marathon last October. Corpses was better than I remembered, still not great.

[Andrew NDB]

It has wrapped filming.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/predator-film-skulls-wraps-filming/

[ZariusTwo]

Official title is 'Prey', it'll premiere on Hulu in Summer 2022

https://deadline.com/2021/11/predator-prequel-prey-dan-trachtenberg-skulls-title-release-date-1234872831/

[Andrew NDB]

I didn't realize the main chick in this is the lady from that latest Liam Neeson movie, about the Ice Road Truckers. That wasn't a great movie (but it was a fun movie) but she was a standout in it.

Very interesting to watch. She's like Aubrey Plaza's younger sister.

[IMJ]

Not much to go by so far, but man that poster image and what I'm reading? So far battin' 1,000 man.

[ProphetofGanja]

since nobody's posted it yet:

https://www.cnet.com/a/img/xtw27fwOvvPG24aOws_ic9OPwyc=/940x0/2021/11/12/28f96e18-2615-42a3-b08e-21576fbf4363/221-skulls-ka-online-horizontal-fn2-fac2715b.jpg

[TigerClaw]

Official title is 'Prey', it'll premiere on Hulu in Summer 2022

https://deadline.com/2021/11/predator-prequel-prey-dan-trachtenberg-skulls-title-release-date-1234872831/
Calling it Prey might confuse some people thinking that its an adaption of the video game of the same name.

[Andrew NDB]

Calling it Prey might confuse some people thinking that its an adaption of the video game of the same name.

See also: morons.

[Sumac]

So it is not called "Predator: Prey", but just "Prey"?

[Andrew NDB]

So it is not called "Predator: Prey", but just "Prey"?

Apparently. Seems fine to me. It has the Predator font. One teaser trailer and everyone will know exactly what franchise it is.

Also as I'm sure the marketing machine revs up they will add some kind of: "From the horrifying world of Predator" or somesuch.

[TigerClaw]

Apparently. Seems fine to me. It has the Predator font. One teaser trailer and everyone will know exactly what franchise it is.

Also as I'm sure the marketing machine revs up they will add some kind of: "From the horrifying world of Predator" or somesuch.
That's the latest trend in movies nowadays, Instead of calling it what it actually is and a number behind it, They just call it something else.

For example movies with titles like, The Dark Knight, Dark Phoenix, Man Of Steel. Now they wanna call the 5th Predator movie Prey.

[oldmanwinters]

I think what the studio really means is "Pray," as in... "Let's pray this makes us money and proves the movie franchise is still viable!"

[Sumac]

Ludicrous idea.
It's like calling sequel to "Alien" series "Local".

[frank_one]

Prey is actually a good title for something that is to be considered between a sequel and a spinoff/side story. I'm sure it will be called Prey: Predator or Predator: Prey in some country though.

[Andrew NDB]

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Teaser trailer is out.

[oldmanwinters]

Hollywood never gives up on a franchise, do they?

[Andrew NDB]

I'm OK with them trying again at this. And again, it's interesting that this is a full-blown Predator movie being conceived, written, produced and filmed post-Disney acquisition of Fox. So that gives hope for a lot of things.

My biggest concern is that this movie won't offer anything particularly new with the Predators. That it'll just be one and a half hours of a 5'5" skinny girl out-Arnolding a single Predator in the woods.

[Andrew NDB]

The full trailer:

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lol... maybe this really will show the origin of the Predator 2 gun? Looks like it just might (look around 1:55).

Also, it WILL have a Commanche language track: https://www.darkhorizons.com/prey-to-have-comanche-language-track/

[Powder]

My biggest concern is that this movie won't offer anything particularly new with the Predators. That it'll just be one and a half hours of a 5'5" skinny girl out-Arnolding a single Predator in the woods.

It's definitely gonna be that. I'm not sold on the lead, either. But, that being said, it looks decent enough. Which is to say, more of the same, I guess. I'm down with the setting for sure though. I've always wanted to see more of this kinda thing, rather than just militants. You know, period pieces, different cultures, etc.

[Andrew NDB]

The lead is super pretty, though I wish they'd have sent her to a few weeks at Zack Snyder's muscle ranch.

Wild prediction time, now that we have the full trailer: she and the Predator do their cat and mouse thing for a while and maybe she even outsmarts him... but then the white men with guns come and ravage her village and people in the midst of all of this*. When the Predator notes that the white men with guns have no honor but the lady and her people do, he helps her out and takes out all the pesky white men. Then maybe she gets to go off into space with the Predator like Machiko Noguchi in the original AVP comic. Now, a sequel to THAT might be interesting. Like, Native American chick and Predator going to other worlds to hunt.

*: OR somehow the Predator gets captured by the white men in the midst of their cat and mouse, and then the Native American lady frees him when she sees them torturing him, and THEN the Predator and her team up to wipe them out.

I was thinking this was just going to be a simple isolated incident cat and mouse in the forests with Native Americans vs. Predator but if they've got white men with guns in the trailer, too, you can see exactly where this is going.

[Wildcat]

So he’s gonna become PC Predator? :lol: That made me laugh.

I still haven’t seen the last one but this looks cool. Too bad it’s streaming only again.

[Andrew NDB]

So he’s gonna become PC Predator? :lol: That made me laugh.

It's entirely possible I'm off my rocker. But we'll see.

Too bad it’s streaming only again.

What do you mean "again"?

[Wildcat]

I just meant it’s another streaming exclusive like Beavis and Butthead.

[Andrew NDB]

I just meant it’s another streaming exclusive like Beavis and Butthead.

Oh. Right. But probably this was the only way we were getting an R rated Predator movie from Disney. Which, again, was borne, produced and filmed after they acquired Fox. So also super surprising.

But it does check a lot of ESG boxes. Especially if it turns out even 75% of my prediction is true.

[Wildcat]

There will probably be some reference to real life since the main characters are protecting themselves and their land but a lot of movies have moments like that. Unless you really think they intended it to be that much of a metaphor about history and stuff.

[Andrew NDB]

There will probably be some reference to real life since the main characters are protecting themselves and their land but a lot of movies have moments like that. Unless you really think they intended it to be that much of a metaphor about history and stuff.

I'm not sure I'm following you, or maybe vice versa.

[Wildcat]

I'm not sure I'm following you, or maybe vice versa.You’re saying they might portray things in a politically correct way and that it checks ESG boxes.

I’m sure there will be a scene or something, probably before it focuses on the Predator, that makes some kind of statement but I don’t think it’ll be as much as your predictions.

[Andrew NDB]

You’re saying they might portray things in a politically correct way and that it checks ESG boxes.

I’m sure there will be a scene or something, probably before it focuses on the Predator, that makes some kind of statement but I don’t think it’ll be as much as your predictions.

Oh, I see. Well, sort of yes and sort of no. I don't expect it will be preachy (at least I hope not) but we'll get, I suspect, in a single Predator movie:

* Small woman going against all odds and defying toxic masculinity to be "the hero"(ine) against a Predator/"women can do everything a man can do." Prevailing.

* Colonialism bad.

* White men bad.

* White men with guns... even worse.

I know it's just a snippet we get in the trailer, but does anything about that give you the remote impression that does white men are going to be portrayed as remotely sympathetic or as three dimensional, or will that be a thing just reserved for the commanche characters?

But yeah, I'm not prematurely damning the movie. It might be really good. I'm hoping it is. Nothing would make me more pleased than to cleanse my palate of "The Predator" and how that was botched (I still don't place much of the blame on Black). I'm not sure a distant prequel is quite what the doctor ordered, but I know that it can't possibly hurt. Predator is a property that is almost as radioactive as the Terminator franchise. Not quite. I mean, Predator has only 2 failed trilogy starters and Terminator has 3, but Terminator has all the time paradox/semi-reboot stuff going on that makes it really, really hard to touch with a 10 foot pole now.

It just seems clear now how this movie was pitched and how it was greenlit.

[Wildcat]

I can see the guys with guns having a conflict with them because it goes with the setting. Not to be PC but in general. I could see one trying to assist her depending how big of a role they have.

It seems like they’re going for intelligence vs technology though. Her beating it without high tech weapons.

[Andrew NDB]

Confirmation that this is supposed to be the Predators' first hunt on Earth.

https://comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/predator/prey-the-feral-predator-unmasks-in-action-packed-new-tv-spot-for-dan-trachtenbergs-prequel-a194914?fbclid=IwAR2AQYqgdO1DyT1TY6xZBiKcgSS6kDOjj 8zxDOCkTes1Wm4Tqa1k0qpzcJs#gs.2c40.73o8hh

Which at first it might seem as though that means the flashbacks to Predators helping construct the pyramids in AVP would be out the window... but those weren't hunts.

[Allio]

Well… looks like another Predator movie. As I said earlier in this thread, these movies are just so tiring. The Predator is such a unique creature as opposed to most horror movie creatures, but they do the same tired schlock.

It's entirely possible I'm off my rocker. But we'll see.


I mean, you are. But that is unrelated to this.

[Andrew NDB]

Saw it. It was fine. Exactly what it appears to be and exactly what it was advertised as. Not a lot of surprises but a startling amount of arm and leg severing.

And yes, we do get the story of the pistol from Predator 2 finally, as predicted. On that note, it's pretty cool how you can now watch Prey => Predator 1 => Predator 2 and all 3 movies now form a pretty symmetrical, closed trilogy. At least, they can.

Also, props to TPTB for not kowtowing to any pressure to add "Prey: A Predator Story" or "Predator: Prey" or something stupid like that to the title. This is nice and neat.

Lastly...

I don't expect it will be preachy (at least I hope not) but we'll get, I suspect, in a single Predator movie:

* Small woman going against all odds and defying toxic masculinity to be "the hero"(ine) against a Predator/"women can do everything a man can do." Prevailing.

* Colonialism bad.

* White men bad.

* White men with guns... even worse.

I know it's just a snippet we get in the trailer, but does anything about that give you the remote impression that does white men are going to be portrayed as remotely sympathetic or as three dimensional, or will that be a thing just reserved for the commanche characters?

All of these things were in the movie. All of her fellow commanche kinfolk make fun of her and tell her she's not good enough, etc. Then the white men were just there to be 2D and evil and poke sticks at the main character and act as cannon fodder, as expected.

[Andrew NDB]

Another thought...

Does the lady getting and keeping the pistol from Predator 2 actually reveal the Predators come back and kill her and take it as a trophy?

[AquaParade]

I agree with the sentiment that this was the best since the original. Probably because they kept it simple and executed on it well.

Which 80’s franchise finally gets a quality sequel next? I’ve been saying Terminator needs to do this, for a while now. Or don’t, the franchise feels pretty played out. But if you do, make it a low-budget sci-fi horror.
Get Logan Paul to be the new Terminator.

Jk. But who do you get as the new Terminator? Probably an “unknown”, I guess, since Javier Bardem probably won’t do it, despite my wishes.

But to be fair, I want Bardem to play everything. I won’t mind if those Mr Sinister rumors are true.

[IMJ]

Saw this last night. Awesome, awesome movie.

Also, as far as period pieces go, I thought it was terrific. It somehow truly managed to capture a land without technology around. The foley was terrific in it - the vastness of sound in what was a quiet, natural world. Like when they are in the tee-pee talking and not only is the wind blowing but you can hear the flame dashing in the wind - that forgotten silence of just nature and people was captured really well in every scene. The echo of the trees in a forest before mass civilization. It was really well done.

The main character and her brother where incredibly likeable and the Predator itself was awesome. Also the costuming was terrific, even down to the French fur-trader's outfits being mostly skins and furs.

It was also filmed beautifully. Great color pallets throughout, great, vast camera angles. So well shot that I can disregard the "uncanny valley" CG animals almost entirely.

I thought it was great.

[Sumac]

If it is a good movie, as people say, I am pleasantly surprised. After "Predator looking for Autism" from 2018, I thought this franchise had fallen on the level of Terminator, but it seems, there is still some hope.

And, no, please no more Terminator movies for at least next few years. Give it time to recuperate and find some new people who can bring it back to at least semblance of something good.

[Andrew NDB]

There really isn't any redeeming Terminator. And after two failed attempts, Arnold is now too old to even be of any use to a new installment. Though they should have moved past him a long time ago.

And what would you even do? Continue from Genisys? Continue from Dark Fate? Pretend 3-6 never happened again? Remake the original? These are all bad options.

[joe-eyeball]

There really isn't any redeeming Terminator. And after two failed attempts, Arnold is now too old to even be of any use to a new installment. Though they should have moved past him a long time ago.

And what would you even do? Continue from Genisys? Continue from Dark Fate? Pretend 3-6 never happened again? Remake the original? These are all bad options.

My brother and I were talking about how to add something new to the Terminator franchise recently and we thought why not go back farther in time. The very rough idea we were throwing around was that Arnold as a human is a sort of a an aging Nikola Tesla type in say the early 1920’s or 30’s and is responsible for the beginnings of the robotics and technology that lead to cyberdine. He’s essentially thought of as an old eccentric inventor that most people choose to ignore.

I know there’s major holes but we were bored and just spitballing.

Then it’s the human resistance that goes back in time to kill human Arnold in an effort to prevent his “technology” from ever evolving and becoming what it became. And if you want to throw in a cybernetic organism then you could have sky net send a Terminator to protect him against the humans trying to kill him.

That’s about all we had and of course I’m not sure how you take an idea like that and somehow make the resistance the bad guy and cyberdine and sky net the good guy.

Feel free to laugh and tear apart my idea or ignore it all together!:lol:

[AquaParade]

Yeah, I think you’d have to reboot it at this point. That’s not all that detrimental to me, considering the sequels past 2 have all been negligible. What’s cool about Terminator is the general concept, not the ever-expanding lore.

I’m not saying they should make more Terminator films, but they will, and so they should take the best approach.

I definitely think rebooting while going back to the lower-budget feel is a better idea than yet another sequel to the mess they’ve been building.

Terminator reboot is actually almost an exciting idea imo. I’d love to get back to just a menacing metallic robot from the future hunting someone down throughout grimy, dark streets. The Terminator design is great. I also think a light science-fiction touch will be refreshing after how much of the future timeline and advanced Terminators we’ve seen at this point.

Take everything back to formula.

[Andrew NDB]

My brother and I were talking about how to add something new to the Terminator franchise recently and we thought why not go back farther in time. The very rough idea we were throwing around was that Arnold as a human is a sort of a an aging Nikola Tesla type in say the early 1920’s or 30’s and is responsible for the beginnings of the robotics and technology that lead to cyberdine. He’s essentially thought of as an old eccentric inventor that most people choose to ignore.

I know there’s major holes but we were bored and just spitballing.

Then it’s the human resistance that goes back in time to kill human Arnold in an effort to prevent his “technology” from ever evolving and becoming what it became. And if you want to throw in a cybernetic organism then you could have sky net send a Terminator to protect him against the humans trying to kill him.

That’s about all we had and of course I’m not sure how you take an idea like that and somehow make the resistance the bad guy and cyberdine and sky net the good guy.

Feel free to laugh and tear apart my idea or ignore it all together!:lol:

I mean, it's not a bad elevator pitch. With a decent enough script that could be pretty OK.

I guess the only way forward I'd see if they were so inclined (and they likely wouldn't be) is just the ultimate Future War movie. DON'T set it up as a trilogy because who knows. Like, John Connor in 2029 and the final showdown with SkyNET. Ignore Genisys and Dark Fate. Salvation COULD have happened but it wouldn't matter here. Big Saving Private Ryan-style affair in the post-apocalyptic robot killing machine future. Maybe at the end before he sends Reese back to 1984 he gets some glimpse into SkyNET's knowledge banks and he witnesses all these other f***ed up timelines, like the Genisys f***ery and the future of Dark Fate, and in addition to Reese going back to meet his mom, arms Reese with new information about how to stop all of these possible timelines from happening and closing the loop before it ever begins.

I think that'd be satisfying. And yeah, some cameos of CGI-de-aged Arnold, Robert Patrick and Kristanna Loken as TechCOM fighters that get captured by the Terminators. That'd really bring us full circle.

[IMJ]

If it is a good movie, as people say, I am pleasantly surprised. After "Predator looking for Autism" from 2018, I thought this franchise had fallen on the level of Terminator, but it seems, there is still some hope.

It has a lot going for it and it captured a pre-settled America very well and the development of the girl and Comanche culture were captured in really compelling ways. Anything in it that someone might point out as woke $#!( is really only in correlation with the timing of this movie's release, rather than some kind of overt assault. When the Comanche girl finally gets to deliver her war cry you are happy for her amidst a battle where you also don't lose any respect for the Predator when he loses.

On it's own merits it's a very solid flick with likable characters. Give it a watch if you are inclined. It's worth giving the documented-dollar-"click" to for sure.

[CyberCubed]

It's hard to believe a Native American savage from the late 1700's can hold her own against an alien who has apparently been fighting since birth as part of its natural species. The way she was jumping under him and slashing his legs and chest in the final scene and the Predator not able to kill her dog of all things was a bit silly.

Also why were they all speaking English when the French were there? Was that accurate for late 1700 America? Would the Indians even know English at that point?

I mean these same Native Americans all died from smallpox and were hounded from their homes by the white man for the next 100 years yet here not only the girl but some of her friends were able to go toe to toe with the Predator before going down?

I know you always have to suspend your disbelief when normal humans can beat alien warriors in hand to hand combat but still.

[joe-eyeball]

It's hard to believe a Native American savage from the late 1700's can hold her own against an alien who has apparently been fighting since birth as part of its natural species. The way she was jumping under him and slashing his legs and chest in the final scene and the Predator not able to kill her dog of all things was a bit silly.

Also why were they all speaking English when the French were there? Was that accurate for late 1700 America? Would the Indians even know English at that point?

I mean these same Native Americans all died from smallpox and were hounded from their homes by the white man for the next 100 years yet here not only the girl but some of her friends were able to go toe to toe with the Predator before going down?

I know you always have to suspend your disbelief when normal humans can beat alien warriors in hand to hand combat but still.


They were speaking English mostly throughout the film because a creative decision was made by the filmmakers to limit native language because they know Americans in general and especially those that watch content at 1.5 speed hate to read subtitles!

They also wanted the white men in the film to be as 2 dimensional and un-relatable as possible so it wasn’t really all that important that we understand exactly what they were saying because it was simple enough to figure it out through context!:lol:

[Mayhem]

But if you so wish, there is a Comanche language soundtrack with English subtitles. Weirdly enough, none of the French is subtitled heh.

[Andrew NDB]

But if you so wish, there is a Comanche language soundtrack with English subtitles. Weirdly enough, none of the French is subtitled heh.

The director doesn't want you to know what they say because the main character doesn't know what they say.

[Sumac]

There really isn't any redeeming Terminator. And after two failed attempts, Arnold is now too old to even be of any use to a new installment. Though they should have moved past him a long time ago.

And what would you even do? Continue from Genisys? Continue from Dark Fate? Pretend 3-6 never happened again? Remake the original? These are all bad options.
Like anything, that is not tied to Connor or T800.
Day in the life of Resistance somewhere or story about Skynet testing new terminators...Terminator universe is bigger than John Connor and shouldn't use him or Arnie T800 as a crutch for every occasion.

[Andrew NDB]

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[IMJ]

It's hard to believe a Native American savage from the late 1700's can hold her own

I mean these same Native Americans all died from smallpox and were hounded from their homes by the white man for the next 100 years yet here not only the girl but some of her friends were able to go toe to toe with the Predator before going down?

Sometimes I actually want to meet you face to face out of morbid curiosity to find out how close you are in real life to the character you play here on the forums.

[AquaParade]

Sometimes I actually want to meet you face to face out of morbid curiosity to find out how close you are in real life to the character you play here on the forums.

I just picture Dwight Schrute.

[IMJ]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::o:lol::lol:

[Allio]

Simple yet effective. As someone that has been critical on the predator franchise as a whole, I find that the movie passed for me.

[Andrew NDB]

https://movieweb.com/amber-midthunder-blasts-haters-who-called-prey-super-woke/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3RbPgKYQh_bmnJ02zJvMIl12fVVI9-RedRp2DQ6MKOAkr5Plb1m4NkiZs#Echobox=1661791255

"I think a lot of people thought our movie would be some super-woke, F-the-patriarchy kind of a story, and that's not what it's about at all. It's not a girl defying what men say she can and can't do."

But...

[ZariusTwo]

An Alien vs Predator anime series was produced and completed years ago, but Disney will seemingly never release it

https://www.cbr.com/disney-aliens-vs-predator-anime-wont-release/

[neatoman]

An Alien vs Predator anime series was produced and completed years ago, but Disney will seemingly never release it

https://www.cbr.com/disney-aliens-vs-predator-anime-wont-release/

Oh, I want to see this trainwreck!