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ZariusTwo
11-05-2019, 03:26 PM
https://deadline.com/2019/11/propagate-cbs-tv-studios-deal-showtime-zorro-re-imagining-nbc-home-cbs-1202775312/

I liked it when it was called "Queen of Swords"

Andrew NDB
11-05-2019, 03:27 PM
Shesus, what's going on?

IMJ
11-05-2019, 03:39 PM
Shesus, what's going on?

These creators live in this microcosm of society where it's like their own world. It's like having two fish in a fish tank and the fish eat each other's ****. It's their whole world. They get caught up in the zeitgeist of their own BS the way that we saw families buying Beanie Babies and Superman #75 in the 90's. It's cultural mania. Millenials are ignorant beyond repair it seems, and liberal-Hollywood think that they are catering to it's money maker audience through millenial zietgeist. But they are not. Instead they are alienating people.

Regular people walk away because this is a virtue-signaling agenda rather than anything widely necessary for advancement. Those regular people don't particularly like having an equality agenda shoved down their throats like a guilt-burger when in fact most people have lived a lifestyle of treating people equally for many decades.

Go woke, go broke. You know why? Because most people were "woke" in the first place already before some idiot had the audacity to put a show called "Dear White People" on Netflix.

neatoman
11-05-2019, 03:46 PM
Zorro is public domain, right? The first Zorro story turned 100 years old recently.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-05-2019, 04:05 PM
Another genderbent reboot?

How bloody original.

oldmanwinters
11-05-2019, 04:17 PM
Well, here's a P.C. reboot I didn't expect.

Andrew NDB
11-05-2019, 04:34 PM
These creators live in this microcosm of society

You forgot the quote marks around "creators" there.

Sumac
11-06-2019, 04:24 AM
Wow, how progressive and original!
Take male character and change him into female!

It definitely speaks of great creative power and not just token attempt to jump on the "woke" bandwagon.
Shame on those "creators".

Utrommaniac
11-06-2019, 04:29 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/3fff67.jpg

This can only go the way of La Femme Musketeer...

sdp
11-06-2019, 07:15 AM
Actually this is likely the most interesting thing they can do with the franchise, I mean who honestly cares about Zorro. Also she won't even be Zorro since the female Zorra also means skank/slut in Spanish so unless they're boneheaded she'd have a different name ergo a new character.

Sumac
11-06-2019, 09:46 AM
Actually this is likely the most interesting thing they can do with the franchise, I mean who honestly cares about Zorro. Also she won't even be Zorro since the female Zorra also means skank/slut in Spanish so unless they're boneheaded she'd have a different name ergo a new character.
I am fully expecting that they won't change her name, because, if they do, than what the point of the whole sex swap and marketing it as the "Zorro" reboot if they can't call her that way?

They can come up with some nonsense about calling her by male name or some such. :lol:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-06-2019, 10:36 AM
I am fully expecting that they won't change her name, because, if they do, than what the point of the whole sex swap and marketing it as the "Zorro" reboot if they can't call her that way?

They can come up with some nonsense about calling her by male name or some such. :lol:

Or she masquerades as a man, because who would suspect a meek and gentle lady of being the fearsome devil ZORRO!?

Andrew NDB
11-06-2019, 11:12 AM
When it fails: "I guess Zorro is just a tired property, nobody likes Zorro anymore."

Prowler
11-06-2019, 11:15 AM
This isn't even funny anymore, tbh.

Then her name is gonna be changed to Zorra, I assume?

And this begs the question: How long until a female Ninja Turtles reboot?

Sumac
11-06-2019, 12:45 PM
This isn't even funny anymore, tbh.

Then her name is gonna be changed to Zorra, I assume?

And this begs the question: How long until a female Ninja Turtles reboot?
They already made April black.
It's like only one step away.

Also, I don't have anything against idea of a female Zorro in itself, but suggesting that it will make story better or it will be a "great female representation" is just hilarious.

Prowler
11-07-2019, 10:45 AM
They already made April black.
It's like only one step away.

Also, I don't have anything against idea of a female Zorro in itself, but suggesting that it will make story better or it will be a "great female representation" is just hilarious.

Well yeah, that's the main problem most people have.

At this rate every character will have either a female or black version of them. As if that automatically is gonna revive dead franchises or renew interest in them. I've never thought I'd miss the era where an anime character getting a haircut was considered character development...

Galactus
11-07-2019, 12:05 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but there is a female Zorro already. I'm sure I've seen talk of a few comic series with the female version recently.

So yeah some Hollywood exec slaps down a few trades of the sexy lady Zorro series in front of other execs and says "I've got an idea". Can't really fault them for that.

Sumac
11-07-2019, 12:06 PM
At this rate every character will have either a female or black version of them. As if that automatically is gonna revive dead franchises or renew interest in them. I've never thought I'd miss the era where an anime character getting a haircut was considered character development...
Hollywood needs "goo boy points". That is aside from the fact that some of the actors and producers are left-leaning and genuinely believe in "Social Justice" crap.

Leofan26
11-07-2019, 07:42 PM
Actually this is likely the most interesting thing they can do with the franchise, I mean who honestly cares about Zorro. Also she won't even be Zorro since the female Zorra also means skank/slut in Spanish so unless they're boneheaded she'd have a different name ergo a new character.

I liked Zorro back in the days, thought the film was fun. I hate how they are rebooting all the old shows and turning it into all girls stuff, it's really annoying me now.

TurtleTitan97
11-07-2019, 08:03 PM
Technically speaking, this is really nothing new. Like Galactus said, there's already been a female Zorro with her own comic series.

Candy Kappa
11-08-2019, 04:49 AM
Dynamite's Lady Zorro appeared in 2012 Zorro Rides Again and had her own comic and a crossover with Lady Rawhide.

She was inspired by Zorro to fight injustice, but got Zorro got framed for her more brutal tactics and didn't approve of her vigilantism.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_small/6/67663/3968723-01.jpg

American Mythology productions' Lady Zorro also have her own comic comic January 2020. AMP is known for having a more supernatural bent Zorro comic like Zorro Rise of the Old Gods

The solicitations don't give us much about her besides being a all-new never seen before kinda deal, with supernatural stuff of course; looks like she's going to fight a evil priest and a coyote-demon army...

https://www.albumcomics.com/114330-thickbox_default/lady-zorro--1-cvr-a-wolfer.jpg

There's also a Lady Zorro in 1996 The Legend of Zorro episode 40 titled "My Fair Lady Zorro"

She's a mysterious Zorro impersonator with Zorro skills and love for vigilantism.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/nJvfx28dZDu6ZOUuFUvVnjO8GYdqf_s7fFbVNHpkMMS1CvAbb-6joYM6rpziL0OVwfeQFNMTidxQgWYntsEAei8S9UAWnahJPJJ_ 2HDOMbjIOcrjdHoVjx1bQNPck3PDbQ=s412

Zorro's Black Whip from 1944.

To avoid legal issues, Zorro is renamed Black Whip and his sister dons the mantle to avenge his death.

http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/filmimages/zorrosblackwhip.jpg

Queen of Swords from 2000.

Short-lived TV series that's totes MacGoats not Zorro, please don't sue... They did get sued, but won since OG 1919 and 1920 Zorro is public domain.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMmNkYTEyNDEtNDA5Zi00MjZmLWJiYTItNzgyOGU2MmRiNj JhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTE2NzA0Ng@@._V1_.jpg

And maybe 2015 Zorro the Chronicles' Ines?

Looking for pictures of various female Zorro's I came over a cgi show called Zorro the Chronicles and this picture, so maybe Ines' Diego's twin sister will don the costume in a episode?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmRqHBWUAEmInE?format=jpg&name=small

MsMarvelDuckie
11-09-2019, 09:57 AM
Hmm, I vaguely remember the Dynamite one, but haven't heard of the others. The closest to that I've ever seen was gay Zorro in The Gay Blade, a campy 70's movie with George Hamilton playing as both twins in a story where the original Zorro dies and passes the legacy down to his son(s). The one who inherits the mantle breaks his leg, and the gay brother takes over- with hilarious results.

ZariusTwo
12-10-2020, 09:49 AM
NBC is developing Zorro, a contemporary take on the classic masked vigilante character with a gender swap. It comes from a high-profile creative team, which includes filmmaker Robert Rodriguez, writer-director Rebecca Rodriguez, Sofia Vergara and her LatinWe, as well as Ben Siverman and Howard T. Owens’ Propagate. CBS Studios, where Propagate has a deal, will co-produce with Universal TV.

Zorro Productions
Co-written by the brother and sister duo of Robert and Rebecca Rodriguez and to be directed by Rebecca, Zorro centers on Sola Dominguez, an underground artist who fights for social justice as contemporary version of the mythical Zorro. Her life is threatened by several criminal organizations after she exposes them.

Robert Rodriguez and Rebecca Rodriguez executive produce with Silverman, Owens, Rodney Ferrell, Greg Lipstone and Jay Weisleder for Propagate, Vergara and Luis Balaguer for LatinWe, Geoff Clark, Eric Bromberg and John Gertz.

Propagate set out to develop a TV series re-imagining of Zorro with a female protagonist last season as one of the company’s first projects under its first-look deal with CBS Studios. The idea’s first incarnation, written by Alfredo Barrios Jr., also was set up at NBC.

Vergara and Silverman are frequent collaborators; they have teamed to produce together several projects over the past decade while Silverman was at Electus and after her joined Propagate, including the ABC drama series Killer Women.

Vergara received Emmy, Golden Globe and SAG Award nominations for her starring role on ABC’s Modern Family. Her feature credits include the Warner Bros. buddy comedy Hot Pursuit, which she also produced. Additionally, she executive produced the Spanish version of Desperate Housewives.

Propagate’s scripted series slate includes the CW’s Charmed.

Robert Rodriguez was attached to direct The Mask of Zorro and cast Antonio Banderas as the title role before leaving the feature project. In TV, he developed and executive produced the series adaptation of his movie From Dusk Till Dawn for his TV network El Rey and also executive produced the Spy Kids animated series offshoot for Netflix. He recently directed an episode of Disney+’s The Mandalorian.

Rebecca Rodriguez’s recent directing credits include episodes of TNT’s Snowpiercer and Showtime’s The Chi. She is repped by Verve and attorney Gregg Gellman of Morris Yorn Barnes Levine.

https://deadline.com/2020/12/zorro-drama-series-female-lead-robert-rodriguez-rebecca-rodriguez-sofia-vergara-propagate-ben-silverman-nbc-reimagening-1234653379/

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
12-10-2020, 10:17 AM
I mean, this one isn't even that weird or surprising. Sure they are.

ZariusTwo
12-10-2020, 10:22 AM
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMDQyOGZlY2EtMjEwNi00YjAxLWFiOTctMzQyNTFhMTI1Zm JiXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTE2NzA0Ng@@._V1_.jpg

Sumac
12-10-2020, 02:32 PM
How brave!
How stunning!
How original!
How unique!
How progressive!

*barf*

MsMarvelDuckie
12-10-2020, 04:27 PM
Sooo.... Is this a "modern" Zorro? It says she fights as a contemporary version of the "mythical" Zorro, so... Does that mean she's just taking up the mantle in modern times, to revive the myth? Or will there ACTUALLY be some connection to the "real" Zorro (meaning Diego De la Vega) somehow? Descendant, finds out he was real and follows footsteps, or something of the kind- if so, I might be interested. But if it's just a gender-bent revision? Ugh, please, no.

Jester
12-10-2020, 04:51 PM
Then...shouldn't it be...Zorra?

Autbot_Benz
01-11-2022, 09:39 PM
Its gonna be on the CW

https://deadline.com/2022/01/zorro-drama-female-lead-robert-rodriguez-rebecca-rodriguez-sean-tretta-propagate-the-cw-1234907693/

Zorro is headed to the CW. The young-skewing network has put in development a gender-swapped reimagining of the classic masked vigilante character, from filmmaker Robert Rodriguez, writer-director Rebecca Rodriguez, Sean Tretta (Mayans M.C.) and Ben Silverman and Howard T. Owens’ Propagate. CBS Studios, where Propagate has a deal, is the studio.

This is a new incarnation of the project, which was in development at NBC during the 2020-21 cycle, with Tretta as a new addition to the brother-and-sister writing team of Robert and Rebecca Rodriguez.

MsMarvelDuckie
01-12-2022, 09:11 AM
Then...shouldn't it be...Zorra?

Zorro literally means "The Fox", so it doesn't really matter if the person under the mask is male or female, because if they used the feminine form, it would specify a female fox, not just a "fox" (gender male, neutral or unknown).

MsMarvelDuckie
01-12-2022, 12:01 PM
Well, yes that WOULD be a bit problematic, but as I pointed out, that would specify a female, and the name Zorro is meant to conjure an image of mystery and secretiveness. Having the name changed to reflect her gender kind of takes away from that. You have to take into account the history of the character. He goes back to the early 1900's story wise, with his first appearance being a novel titled The Curse of Capistrano. He was written to fit the old noir pulp heroes of the era. There's a certain expectation that the name reflects that kind of hero.

Andrew NDB
01-12-2022, 12:13 PM
https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=62026

Andrew NDB
01-12-2022, 12:13 PM
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Sumac
01-12-2022, 04:10 PM
Zorra is indeed a female fox and it would work for the name... but in spanish slang it means slut/whore.
Hey, according to a modern Feminism being whore is an empowerment!
So, two birds with one stone. :lol:

Leo656
01-12-2022, 10:17 PM
Hey, according to a modern Feminism being whore is an empowerment!
So, two birds with one stone. :lol:

Ain't that some sh*t? Like, when did having more infected yeast than a quarantined bread factory become a symbol of virtue? :lol:

Sumac
01-13-2022, 01:14 AM
Ain't that some sh*t? Like, when did having more infected yeast than a quarantined bread factory become a symbol of virtue? :lol:
When mold-loving rats had taken over the factory and decided that everything should contain mold.