View Full Version : Six Dr. Seuss Books To Be Banned
ZariusTwo
03-02-2021, 02:16 PM
The titles are:
"And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street"
"If I Ran the Zoo"
"McElligot's Pool"
"On Beyond Zebra!"
"Scrambled Eggs Super!"
"The Cat's Quizzer"
For offensive and racist content.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/02/us/dr-seuss-books-cease-publication-trnd/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=2021-03-02T13%3A00%3A03&utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link
Coola Yagami
03-02-2021, 02:19 PM
From my understanding this was a decision from Dr. Seuss' own family, but a lot of people seem to be pinning this on the president.
I'm starting to get the feeling that like Trump, where 'everything was Trump's fault', the anti-woke crowd is gonna start to point the finger at Biden any time some new woke thing comes out.
People just can't see above black and white anymore. The president, whoever if may be, is not behind everything.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
03-02-2021, 02:32 PM
Wait, what? :tlol:
I've never heard of any of these... except the Mulberry Street one, I think.
Jester
03-02-2021, 03:32 PM
I've seen people point to specific instances in Mulberry Street and If I Ran The Zoo, but the other 4 I'm at a loss to find any reason why. Some people attribute them to being low selling Seuss books.
The study also argues that since the majority of human characters in Dr. Seuss' books are White, his works -- inadvertently or not -- center Whiteness and thus perpetuate White supremacy.
Really? For the love of....
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
03-02-2021, 03:59 PM
This article had a lot of the pictures in question. Helpful to let people determine whether or not anything is portrayed offensively.
https://library.nashville.org/blog/2019/08/tackling-racism-childrens-books-conversations-seussland
Last Ronin
03-02-2021, 04:53 PM
*facepalm*..... Woke liberals are a damn disease to the nation. They want to erase everything that for the time was o.k, instead of using these moments they just want to cancel it and bitch at anyone who dares own anything of those time periods.
This is why half the country is over it. Slowly they are ruining everything so that they can have their safe space and bitch to others of what they expect out of them.
oldmanwinters
03-02-2021, 05:03 PM
I always thought Mulberry Street sounded like a wild place to visit, maybe even cool enough to live there!
IndigoErth
03-02-2021, 05:21 PM
Only ever heard of the first two. Not sure we ever had them... maybe the zoo one, but not sure. edit: Looked up images, pretty sure we do have the zoo one sitting around somewhere.
On the up side, I guess if anyone has mint copies of them, esp those lesser known titles, their selling price might go up.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
03-02-2021, 05:53 PM
Only ever heard of the first two. Not sure we ever had them... maybe the zoo one, but not sure. edit: Looked up images, pretty sure we do have the zoo one sitting around somewhere.
On the up side, I guess if anyone has mint copies of them, esp those lesser known titles, their selling price might go up.
So you're saying we could retire off the profits from selling racist collectors' items?
What a way to bankroll my condo in Miami...
Keep it coming, keep it coming. Let's f'n burn it ALL down! That way the people who are pushing these cancellations and agendas will then continue to turn on themselves until they are hopefully all dead or locked away somewhere.
Anyone seen Cuomo lately? Where you you piece of dirt $#!( bag?
Sumac
03-02-2021, 06:43 PM
The study also argues that since the majority of human characters in Dr. Seuss' books are White, his works -- inadvertently or not -- center Whiteness and thus perpetuate White supremacy.
By this logic any work that features characters of only one X race perpetuate X race supremacy.
So, you have movie with only Chinese characters? It perpetuates Chinese supremacy.
You have work with Indian characters only? It perpetuate Indian supremacy!
And so on.
Also, what retards who wrote this phrase expect? To ban every single work that contains only white characters? What to do with works outside of US, with works which were created before African slavery was a thing?
This retards are doing everything possible to summon real (not those shaman clowns) white-supremacist on their asses and they will achieve their goal sooner than later. And I can't say I will cry for them. When they perpetuate hate, they will get only hate in return.
IndigoErth
03-02-2021, 07:18 PM
So you're saying we could retire off the profits from selling racist collectors' items?
What a way to bankroll my condo in Miami...
I mean, I doubt anyone will be getting rich, but the going price on eBay is bound to increase eventually? Bound to be people who want them based on being banned/retired alone.
CyberCubed
03-02-2021, 07:19 PM
They should ban The Grinch because he's offensive to green people.
Andrew NDB
03-02-2021, 09:20 PM
The biggest outrage about this, to me, is that there isn't more outrage. People are just kind of slumping their shoulders going, "OK. Burn the books. Fine."
IndigoErth
03-02-2021, 09:30 PM
Well I haven't heard of any burning, and children's books that are purely for entertainment aren't exactly a great loss to the world if they go out of print (which is basically what this "banning" comes down to since most copies still out there will continue to exist), and the majority are lesser known titles... so I guess that's why adults aren't all that outraged.
Now... if they were banning my One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish, the first book I recall being able to read by myself... that might be a bit more personal. lol
Also, when I went to edit, why did I get hit with odd screen with a spinning... uh, vaguely pinwheel shape?... that was supposedly a captcha thing, but did nothing before finally reloading the page. :teek:
Coola Yagami
03-02-2021, 09:35 PM
Some of those images are kinda 'yikes', though it did make me think. Did other countries ever draw American characters as weird gross stereotypes or whatever?
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
03-02-2021, 09:41 PM
Some of those images are kinda 'yikes', though it did make me think. Did other countries ever draw American characters as weird gross stereotypes or whatever?
Just draw us all really fat :tlol:
FredWolfLeonardo
03-02-2021, 09:42 PM
Did other countries ever draw American characters as weird gross stereotypes or whatever?
Not exactly considered children's entertainment by Western standards, but American soldiers are routinely portrayed as cold and heartless monsters by North Korean propaganda.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIhqi76lQTb4hHUXId7qq5yV8JgTlLs 7r-Jg&usqp=CAU
Coola Yagami
03-02-2021, 09:57 PM
I mean .... sadly, we kinda are.
mrmaczaps
03-02-2021, 10:00 PM
*facepalm*..... Woke liberals are a damn disease to the nation. They want to erase everything that for the time was o.k, instead of using these moments they just want to cancel it and bitch at anyone who dares own anything of those time periods.
This is why half the country is over it. Slowly they are ruining everything so that they can have their safe space and bitch to others of what they expect out of them.
^^^this all day.
DarkFell
03-03-2021, 12:58 AM
Some people just cannot leave things be. Our society gets bored way too easy and way too fast. Gotta point the finger at the next damned thing to get offended at.
Regardless of how anyone views the quality of life that Dr. Seuss possessed, there were / are many kids that learned how to read from his books.
But yeah sure, I liked The Cat in The Hat, How The Grinch Stole Christmas, Green Eggs and Ham, and a few Berenstain Bear books as a kid. Therefore, I must be such an awful person indeed! :roll::roll::roll:
Shark_Blade
03-03-2021, 01:29 AM
Rubbish nonsense. It’s a product of its time and should be maintained as is.
Wildcat
03-03-2021, 01:41 AM
I just looked up a few of these.
I can see why they want to stop producing them but some stuff is pretty minor. I think you just release new editions with a new drawing and rhyme.
Don’t know how popular these specific books are though. Maybe it doesn’t matter much either way. They’ll always be pretty widely available.
Sumac
03-03-2021, 03:02 AM
What happens when society doesn't have unifying ideology, but have a lot of money and resources for navel gazing.
I mean .... sadly, we kinda are.
Wrong place for self-flagellation, mate.
Twitter >>> that way (https://twitter.com/).
IndigoErth
03-03-2021, 02:59 PM
I could see why a publisher would not be comfortable printing those books today and might refuse, but honestly, they could have just chosen to pull them for the time being and consider possible updates to refresh them and make them less cringy for today's market. (Who doesn't like collecting a good variant? :twink:) Some would still yell about it, but... meh, those people probably never cared to own them previously either.
edit: Or as Wildcat said before me.
Leo656
03-03-2021, 05:17 PM
Stupidity Reigns.
mrmaczaps
03-04-2021, 02:38 PM
And ebay has been pulling sales of any Seuss book now. Who could have figured? :lol:
Jester
03-04-2021, 05:01 PM
We have 3 of the 6 (found the Cat's Quizzer at a flea market months ago and Mulberry Street and If I Ran the Zoo are in Seuss collections I bought years ago) I'm surprised we never bought McElligot's Pool since it's the only one of the remaining 3 I even remember. On Beyond Zebra and Scrambled Eggs Super! were hard to find BEFORE they were pulled.
Leo656
03-04-2021, 09:47 PM
And ebay has been pulling sales of any Seuss book now. Who could have figured? :lol:
That's not right, that's anti-capitalist. Since when are eBay enemies of the free market economy? That literally goes against their entire reason for being. There's only an eBay in the first place because of people saying "I have a thing. You want this thing? You can buy this thing from me."
What the actual f*ck.
Sumac
03-05-2021, 03:56 AM
If this is true, eBay might be trying to show how progressive it is to Twatters.
Andrew NDB
03-05-2021, 04:31 AM
And ebay has been pulling sales of any Seuss book now. Who could have figured? :lol:
Like I said. Book burning.
Leo656
03-05-2021, 07:26 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again: I'm not looking to die, but I sure as sh*t don't wanna live in this timeline 50 years henceforth. Sh*t's gonna be bananas (That's "b-a-n-a-n-a-s").
I'm also gonna remind everyone that none of this sh*t happened before Barry Allen went back in time to try and save his Mom. Just sayin'. "Thanks", Barry. :tgrumble:
Like I said. Book burning.
That's exactly right. But again, you'd say that to the mouth breathers of the day and you'd get that "Duuuuddeeee. I don't think it's.... thhhaattt".
But it is.
It's modern book burning. It's modern scarlet lettering and it's modern witch-hunting.
mrmaczaps
03-05-2021, 11:09 AM
Like I said. Book burning.
Yeah but ebay has been doing this for years.
Examples: Dukes of Hazzard merch if it has the battle flag of Virginia on it. Or the flag itself. Anything the Lunatic Left has deemed dangerous. But you can still buy actual terrorists books, manifestos or whatever. Except for maybe Hitler's stuff.
Supply is there as people have them to sell. Demand is there because the Lunatic Left has said "peasants, you cannot have this" and so people really want it.
Its all bad.
Jester
03-06-2021, 09:57 PM
My wife and I had to come to terms with Dr. Seuss the man over Dr. Seuss the artist a long time ago when we found out he cheated on his 1st wife which lead to he suicide.
MsMarvelDuckie
05-01-2021, 11:19 PM
Well I haven't heard of any burning, and children's books that are purely for entertainment aren't exactly a great loss to the world if they go out of print (which is basically what this "banning" comes down to since most copies still out there will continue to exist), and the majority are lesser known titles... so I guess that's why adults aren't all that outraged.
Now... if they were banning my One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish, the first book I recall being able to read by myself... that might be a bit more personal. lol
Also, when I went to edit, why did I get hit with odd screen with a spinning... uh, vaguely pinwheel shape?... that was supposedly a captcha thing, but did nothing before finally reloading the page. :teek:
Lol this is exactly my thoughts too. I saw a lot of outrage on FB, mostly from people who didn't even bother to find out about the fact that it was his own family that decided to end publication of those books. They aren't banned so much as just going out of print. Funny how no one ever complains when other books go out of print, but just when there is racially insensitive content.
Sumac
09-23-2023, 05:58 AM
Rise from your grave, thread:
This is what all this book censorship leads to:
'Empty shelves with absolutely no books': Students, parents question school board's library weeding process (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-school-board-library-book-weeding-1.6964332)
In the spring, Takata says students were told by staff that "if the shelves look emptier right now it's because we have to remove all books [published] prior to 2008."
"When you talk to the librarian in the library, the books are being weeded by the date, no other criteria," Bailey told the committee.
So, are those guys progressives or just plain ol'good fascists, just a bit more gay and pedo than usual variety?
oldmanwinters
10-05-2023, 02:34 PM
Rise from your grave, thread:
This is what all this book censorship leads to:
'Empty shelves with absolutely no books': Students, parents question school board's library weeding process (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-school-board-library-book-weeding-1.6964332)
So, are those guys progressives or just plain ol'good fascists, just a bit more gay and pedo than usual variety?
They are really taking "keeping current with the times" to its most literal expression!
Andrew NDB
10-05-2023, 04:28 PM
Rise from your grave, thread:
This is what all this book censorship leads to:
'Empty shelves with absolutely no books': Students, parents question school board's library weeding process (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-school-board-library-book-weeding-1.6964332)
So, are those guys progressives or just plain ol'good fascists, just a bit more gay and pedo than usual variety?
Of course it's Canada. "Equity-based process," indeed. But of course this is coming here to the US if it hasn't already. Then when confronted about it they'll say, "What?! YOU are the guys that want to ban books!"
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