Have you ever been personally offended by a piece of media so far?

[CyberCubed]

Be honest. Whether it be a movie, a TV show, a videogame, lyrics in music, a commercial, virtually anything...have you ever found something personally offensive?

[IndigoErth]

Uh, yeah. As a women it's kind of a given throughout life that there has long been a trend of various media depicting women in ways that were insulting and/or unnecessarily objectifying or whatnot. No mystery there.


edit: If you want stuff that's less broadly insulting... glasses stereotypes have always irked me, as well as my state being treated as nothing or barely existing.

[Galactus]

No but then there is very little media which really goes after straight white males in any severe way.

[CyberCubed]

I am also a straight white cis het male, so nothing offends me even though white people are portrayed as stupid, violent, silly, arrogant or plain evil virtually all the time everywhere.

Case in point, Homer Simpson is "white" technically, and he's allowed to be an idiot and nobody minds. If The Simpsons were black, having Homer act the way he does probably wouldn't fly.

[Prowler]

Personally offended? No. I'll roll my eyes or laugh if I see something completely wrongly depicted in foreign media, like the 1987 TMNT episode where they go to Portugal. All of that episode was entirely wrong. Portugal had bullfighting but there's no such thing as a bullfighting festival in Lisbon nor are there any bulls roaming my city's streets. Lisbon is not Pamplona in Spain. :lol:

And I don't mind the Portuguese fishermen jokes in Family Guy. I can even accept the fact they speak with a Brazilian accent. Seth MacFarlane said the Portuguese jokes in Family Guy are sort of an inside joke between him and his good portuguese friend. It's most likely done on purpose. Plus, it's ****ing Family Guy. They make fun of EVERYONE :lol:

Haven't seen any Holywood movies set in Portugal, but everytime they try to depict a non-American country or nationality they get it wrong 99% of the time, anyway. I think it's either laziness or a running joke at this point. So no point getting annoyed by it.

As for other stuff... I'm not religious nor am I gay or anything like that, so none of the jokes on TV about those subjects or people hurt me.

Really, at the end of the day TV isn't real life. I know exactly who am I. I don't need Family Guy to tell me what portuguese people are like. I'll just talk to my family members or my acquaintances :P. Certain kinds of fictional character archetypes fit certain stories better. No one wants to see a boring average Joe on TV. People want to be entertained.

[neatoman]

If we're talking fiction, no. Fiction can piss me off with how bad it is, or I can feel annoyed with it in some fashion but I don't know if it can offend me. Like I think TMNT Out of the Shadows is absolute travesy of a movie, the production of Power Rangers baffles me in how pointless it all is and I think Star Trek Discovery is a jackass creation. But none of them really offend me.

On the other hand, there can be documentaries and and educational content that actually offends me if their intention is to spread misinformation. That's actually offensive since the goal is clearly to mislead and deceive people.

[Andrew NDB]

Nothing. Not one thing.

[Coola Yagami]

Honestly can't think of a single time, like ever.

I admit sometimes Hispanic characters overdo the 'ese' and 'homes' and whatever else, we get it, you're Hispanic, but like, to say 'offended' is too strong a word. I just carry on with my day.

[Andrew NDB]

I admit sometimes Hispanic characters overdo the 'ese' and 'homes' and whatever else, we get it, you're Hispanic

If anything, I get offended by interviews and speeches of writers/directors/actors telling me what I want to see (i.e., as a Hispanic, that I must always be craving seeing other Hispanics because only then can I identify with characters on the screen)... but nothing in the Art itself. Even if it's borne of nonsense ideology and the latest "hip" identity politics.

[Leo656]

Honestly can't think of a single time, like ever.

I admit sometimes Hispanic characters overdo the 'ese' and 'homes' and whatever else, we get it, you're Hispanic, but like, to say 'offended' is too strong a word. I just carry on with my day.

As an Irish guy I'm about as white (or "translucent") as they come, and much as I loved the guy Eddy Guerrero's entire WWE run was nothing but cringe. He was never a good promo guy anyways and all his BEST matches were in WCW, but every single promo he ever cut in WWE was just him saying "ese", "ese vato" and "homes" every time he stopped for breath. Like sometimes he'd pause for breath and you could see it in his eyes, "Oh, sh*t, I forgot to 'Spic It Up'!" and then he'd very awkwardly cram one of them in there just to get it in there. It was even worse because while he is of Chicano heritage, he was born in Texas and English was his first language, so the "forced stereotype" thing rang extremely false on account of the fact that Eddy Guerrero was in fact rather "white" for a Mexican, objectively-speaking. Seriously, watch any of his many WCW promos between 1997 and 1999, and then watch him overnight become a completely different guy in WWE. Even when he was the leader of the "Latino World Order" he wasn't a full-blown Speedy Gonzales cartoon yet.

I didn't find it "offensive", exactly, just very annoying because I knew for a fact the guy didn't actually speak like that. I just find his entire WWE career very hard to watch for that reason (the 40 extra pounds of steroid muscle that led him to drop dead at age 38 was also extremely uncomfortable to watch; suffice to say I was in no way shocked when he up and keeled over). I think the oft-corroborated stories about Vince McMahon later telling Carlito to "Spic It Up" (using those exact words) when he spoke was pretty offensive, but mostly because "How does a billionaire not realize that you can't exactly just up and say that to someone's face in the 21st Century?" Like it's less that he said it and more the complete lack of self awareness on his part. But then Vince's lack of self-awareness is legendary.
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As for me myself... I was highly offended by the ChickBusters movie.

[Wildcat]

Honestly...once. The Family Guy episode where Carter has the cure for cancer. Before everyone gets upset I love Family Guy and other adult comedy. I just think this this 1 episode went a little too far.

It goes absolutely nowhere and ends with just...yup he’s horrible or the devil or whatever the joke was. It was all pointless to me and felt like an excuse to use cancer as a plot line.

If he was caught (even by Lois) it would have come off differently. It should have ended on a high note is all I’m saying. Don’t make that the plot of a whole episode just for the sake of it.

Edit: I just looked up the episode and Lois does find out. It’s been a really long time since I’ve seen it. I still think the ending was dumb.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I am offended by all forms of media that advocate degeneracy and immorality.

[ssjup81]

Personally offended, no, not really. Have I ever smacked my forehead over something completely stupid...sure, but that's about it.

I feel more offended by fools that believe the stereotypes of certain groups of people and try to apply them to the entire group. Well, maybe not offended, but it is an annoyance.

[ZariusTwo]

No but then there is very little media which really goes after straight white males in any severe way.

You keep telling yourself that. I'm sure one day you'll actually believe it.

[Leo656]

Honestly...once. The Family Guy episode where Carter has the cure for cancer. Before everyone gets upset I love Family Guy and other adult comedy. I just think this this 1 episode went a little too far.

It goes absolutely nowhere and ends with just...yup he’s horrible or the devil or whatever the joke was. It was all pointless to me and felt like an excuse to use cancer as a plot line.

If he was caught (even by Lois) it would have come off differently. It should have ended on a high note is all I’m saying. Don’t make that the plot of a whole episode just for the sake of it.

Edit: I just looked up the episode and Lois does find out. It’s been a really long time since I’ve seen it. I still think the ending was dumb.

The entire point of Family Guy past Season 1 is that every single character is an absolute sh*tbag. That's like, the entire show.

[frank_one]

Never been offended. I'm very tolerant, for the most part I don't give it a f~ck. Also, as an Italian I can say that most of the stuff you hear about Italians, even the worst, is... actually true :D

[Papenbrook]

Yes.

Plenty of times, in fact.

[Andrew NDB]

Yes.

Plenty of times, in fact.

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[Leo656]

Dawg, I heard that Kraken got deeply offended by her own breakfast this morning. :lol:

The waffles and the toast were clearly conspiring against her already, but the kicker was when the Rice Krispies got together and sang out loud "Snap, Crackle, F*ck This Kid." :lol::lol::lol:

To be fair, I think I might also be a bit miffed if I found myself in that situation. But I'd probably get over it pretty quickly.

[CyberCubed]

I am offended by all forms of media that advocate degeneracy and immorality.

That's most of fiction.

[sdp]

I am offended by all forms of media that advocate degeneracy and immorality.

That's my favorite type of media.

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To her defense you get outraged just as much as Papenbrook.

[ABrown]

No, not even close.

[Coola Yagami]

Honestly...once. The Family Guy episode where Carter has the cure for cancer. Before everyone gets upset I love Family Guy and other adult comedy. I just think this this 1 episode went a little too far.

It goes absolutely nowhere and ends with just...yup he’s horrible or the devil or whatever the joke was. It was all pointless to me and felt like an excuse to use cancer as a plot line.

If he was caught (even by Lois) it would have come off differently. It should have ended on a high note is all I’m saying. Don’t make that the plot of a whole episode just for the sake of it.

Edit: I just looked up the episode and Lois does find out. It’s been a really long time since I’ve seen it. I still think the ending was dumb.

I mean in all honesty, Big Pharma would hide or kill whoever created the cure for cancer. Helping people fight it off is big business and you know they value money over human lives.

[CyberCubed]

I admit sometimes Hispanic characters overdo the 'ese' and 'homes' and whatever else, we get it, you're Hispanic, but like, to say 'offended' is too strong a word. I just carry on with my day.

Every time a black or spanish person is on TV they always seem to be written the same way:

- They're from "da hood"
- Or if they're educated, they have family or "came from the hood" and now they "made it in the world"
- They say things like, "Dat's phat," "Yo, dawg," "Homie," "Oh snap," "ese," and, "Dios mio."
- Most of them either do drugs or know people who do drugs, weed, crack, crystal meth
- If they're black/spanish in a primarily white show, they're always the "token minority" who interests with all the white characters
- They all own guns
- They all face discrimination of some kind especially if they're in interracial relationships

It's the same thing with Russians, where they all say, "Da!' and "For the glory of mother Russia!"

I wonder if everything I learned about other races from TV shows and movies was a lie.

[Leo656]

I mean in all honesty, Big Pharma would hide or kill whoever created the cure for cancer. Helping people fight it off is big business and you know they value money over human lives.

I am almost 100% certain that this has already happened.

Although interestingly enough, they recently publicly announced a link between abusing pharmaceutical medications and various common types of cancer. Which is interesting. Now, I'm no doctor, but I kind of already knew (or assumed) that much to be true. I mean, smoking causes cancer, alcohol abuse can cause cancer, steroids cause cancer, artificial sweeteners cause cancer... even as a kid it just seemed like common sense to me that "You consistently introduce foreign substances into your body over a period of several years or even decades... yeah, I *think* that's probably how you get cancer." Like maybe not ALL the time, I'm sure that there's like a "random tumor generator" since it does sometimes seem to happen for no reason to some people. But I'm also pretty sure that if you take a lot of medications, then your odds shoot through the roof. Again, I'm no doctor... but the math checks out.

And I'm pretty sure that link was never investigated or spoke of out loud before now because keeping people hooked on pills has been big business for the past few decades, and if they came out and said "By the way, these things absolutely give you cancer" then more people might just take a risk on being bipolar or depressed or tired or whatever else they take pills for. But if that's true, it's odd that they'd suddenly come out and say there's a link, or a suspected link.

It's all very strange. But I do think that "they" know, and have always known, a lot more about cancer (including what causes it and how to get rid of it) than we mere mortals are "allowed" to know. I mean, that's what happens when the scientists who did the study that said Aspartame was safe were paid to do the study by the company that was manufacturing Aspartame. Just for example. It's not a question of "Are they lying to us?", it's a question of how MUCH, and How Big.

[Coola Yagami]

I am almost 100% certain that this has already happened.

Although interestingly enough, they recently publicly announced a link between abusing pharmaceutical medications and various common types of cancer. Which is interesting. Now, I'm no doctor, but I kind of already knew (or assumed) that much to be true. I mean, smoking causes cancer, alcohol abuse can cause cancer, steroids cause cancer, artificial sweeteners cause cancer... even as a kid it just seemed like common sense to me that "You consistently introduce foreign substances into your body over a period of several years or even decades... yeah, I *think* that's probably how you get cancer." Like maybe not ALL the time, I'm sure that there's like a "random tumor generator" since it does sometimes seem to happen for no reason to some people. But I'm also pretty sure that if you take a lot of medications, then your odds shoot through the roof. Again, I'm no doctor... but the math checks out.

And I'm pretty sure that link was never investigated or spoke of out loud before now because keeping people hooked on pills has been big business for the past few decades, and if they came out and said "By the way, these things absolutely give you cancer" then more people might just take a risk on being bipolar or depressed or tired or whatever else they take pills for. But if that's true, it's odd that they'd suddenly come out and say there's a link, or a suspected link.

It's all very strange. But I do think that "they" know, and have always known, a lot more about cancer (including what causes it and how to get rid of it) than we mere mortals are "allowed" to know. I mean, that's what happens when the scientists who did the study that said Aspartame was safe were paid to do the study by the company that was manufacturing Aspartame. Just for example. It's not a question of "Are they lying to us?", it's a question of how MUCH, and How Big.

Yeah cause after years and years and YEARS and YEARS of money being donated to 'the fight against cancer' and 'the search for the cure', like... what has been happening? What the **** are these eggheads actually DOING? Like I know we don't have flying cars and self-lacing shoes but still, it's 2021 and you telling me these studies that have been going on for decades have still not found a cure or some sort of preventive measure? ********.

Like even HIV/AIDS, I believe, have developed enough meds and stuff where someone that has it can still live a full life. Why are the cancer researchers napping on this?

[Andrew NDB]

To her defense you get outraged just as much as Papenbrook.

In a world where just pointing things out = outrage... I guess?

P.S. That's weird.

[Leo656]

D'you ever wonder what "sdp" stands for?

Something tells me that's seriously key to all of this.

I mean, I know what it stands for in my head... but none of those things are probably The Truth. :lol:

[IndigoErth]

In a world where just pointing things out = outrage... I guess?

P.S. That's weird.
I mean... in theory, if something lands on someone's radar enough that they feel it worth discussing/complaining over, then it may be at least somewhat true...



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Everyone keeps saying things are more of an annoyance, but that's a pretty thin line. What is an annoyance but an irritation that insults someone's limits of patience, tolerance, sensibilities or standards.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean... in theory, if something lands on someone's radar enough that they feel it worth discussing/complaining over, then it may be at least somewhat true

No, I don't think that's what that word means. It's not even close.

[IMJ]

I mean... in theory, if something lands on someone's radar enough that they feel it worth discussing/complaining over, then it may be at least somewhat true...

No, I don't think that's what that word means. It's not even close.

This was quiet possibly the most telling and important exchange on the forums in relation to Clown World and I don't know if anyone really understands why.....

I'm stone serious too.

[mrmaczaps]

Being offended is a choice.

[Leo656]

Not if you went to college in either NY, MA or CA.

Then "being offended" is a sacred oath you swear to carry to your grave. :lol:

[IndigoErth]

This was quiet possibly the most telling
No, using terms like "clown world" wins by a long shot.

[Wildcat]

The entire point of Family Guy past Season 1 is that every single character is an absolute sh*tbag. That's like, the entire show.I know they shifted from typical storylines to whatever they think is funny but I don’t think they needed a whole episode on this.

I’ve always felt Family Guy is good at setting up jokes and punchlines even if they don’t really matter to the story. They usually fit the narrative and are funny. I don’t hold it against them or anything. I’ve never stopped watching.

I just thought this was one episode was a little too much. We already know Carter is horrible. It’s not like they were trying to expose him. He’s not real.

If it had a clever ending it’d be different. Maybe have someone else discover a cure so he rushes to reveal his because he wants all the credit. Could have had Stewie or someone pretending to be a doctor that tricks him.

I mean in all honesty, Big Pharma would hide or kill whoever created the cure for cancer. Helping people fight it off is big business and you know they value money over human lives.I read the other posts but didn’t wanna quote all that.

Seriously? There’s no cure for cancer because it can happen in literally any part of the body all with different reasons. That’s why it’s worse if it spreads because it’s no longer 1 type. Even if there was 1 cure there’d be multiple other types without one.

If there was a cure for any cancer “Big Pharma” would make a ton of money from it. It’d be a medical phenomenon. Every company would want to get in on it because it’d more valuable than most anything.

[Leo656]

"Treatment" is where the money is. Not "cure". Cure means fewer sick people paying into the system, treatment means keeping people "just okay" but still paying huge amounts of money into staying alive.

Long game, buddy. All about the long game.

[Wildcat]

It’s technically true that long term treatment would cost more but do you actually believe the medical industry would hide a cure for any type just to milk some extra money when they’d have a the ultimate solution?

Anyone who would need it would be willing to pay for it. Every pharmaceutical company would want to produce and distribute their own versions.

[Leo656]

My Dad worked for Big Pharma for almost 30 years, so... yes, I do.

"These people don't give a f*ck about anybody. It's all about the money." That was an oft-quoted refrain. He was pretty sure they had the cancer gimmick on lockdown back then, too. These aren't new ideas.

Whatever a company would get as a one-time payout for a big cure, it's a pittance compared to what they've taken in over the last 50 years in treatments. As well as what they stand to earn in decades to come.

I've said this before, but you could stand to be less naive and more cynical, sometimes. Just because people (or a corporation) are in a position to "save lives" doesn't mean they're actually going to do that because it's "the right thing to do." Not when they can make a lot more money doing the alternative.

I bet you think people actually become doctors because they get off on helping people, moreso than the fact that it's a guaranteed way to own a Mercedes. That's cute, but it's also not really the reality of things. Do doctors like helping people? Sure. Would anyone be a doctor if they couldn't get rich doing it? Absolutely not.

Morals and ethics have nothing to do with economics. And in life, ALL things are a matter of economics first and foremost, with everything else way in the background. The sooner you accept that, the sooner the world in general will start making a lot more sense.

[Wildcat]

I get the cover-up and why it’s used in tv but I have a hard time believing it because every company would have to in on it. I’m sure scams and such happen in someway but not to that scale.

Aside from that like I said Cancer is so extremely intricate nobody can honestly believe it’s that easy to cure and it’s just been kept a secret all this time. That’s beyond cynicism.

There’s things I’m quite cynical about but some of the stuff people say, this and that...I don’t know.

[Andrew NDB]

It's less "coverup" and diabolical cloak and dagger stuff in dark rooms as much as it's just the simple fact that at the genesis of these things, none of these are made not-for-profit. And even if they were or we're talking about people who just altruistically want to "do what's right for mankind because it's the right thing to do" and nothing else, that doesn't get them out of all sorts of a never-ending gauntlet of insurances they must carry to even begin the study of these kinds of things. This money has to come from somewhere.

[mrmaczaps]

I get the cover-up and why it’s used in tv but I have a hard time believing it because every company would have to in on it. I’m sure scams and such happen in someway but not to that scale.

Aside from that like I said Cancer is so extremely intricate nobody can honestly believe it’s that easy to cure and it’s just been kept a secret all this time. That’s beyond cynicism.

There’s things I’m quite cynical about but some of the stuff people say, this and that...I don’t know.

Cancer has a cure. There was a doctor out there that did it & Big Pharma had him killed and his records destroyed.

Its all about the Benjamin's & control. Same as covid. Thats been around longer than just last March.

[Prowler]

I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any means and find most of them ridiculous, even if they have an interesting or logical premise at first, like the 9/11 conspiracies. Sure, there's some stuff unexplained, but the 9/11 conspiracy theorists extrapolate that into the territory of absurdity, which makes it hard to take them seriously.

But the Big Pharma conspiracy theory is one that I'm SOMEWHAT inclined to believe in. Pharmaceutical companies make A LOT of money. And neither dead or healthy people are the ones who are making them rich.

I don't believe cancer is one of those illnesses that they're trying to avoid finding cures for, though. Cancer isn't something you get infected with or something that develops overnight. And there's wha too many different types of cancer and tumours and they often hit people who seemed perfectly healthy and didn't have the genetic history or the lifestyle that would make them statistically likely to get cancer one day. And that includes a lot of rich people, including those who work for Big Pharma.

I can, however, see the Big Pharma not investing as much money or putting as much of an effort in developing vaccines or cures for illnesses that affect mostly people living in 3rd world countries, however. Because those people are often too poor to be able to afford the treatments.

[IMJ]

I was offended at this....

https://i.imgur.com/Tuxro6Dl.jpg

[Last Ronin]

Nope, never have been offended because unlike the mental health weak as fudge snowflakes I can remove myself from watching a show on bloody t.v to real life. Being offended is this generations get out of work free pass. Everything is offensive.

[IMJ]

Cancer isn't something you get infected with

It absolutely is at it's root. It's called HPV. And more and more they are reporting that a lot of cancers are coming from longer term infections that don't clear up from a variety of sources, both viral and bacterial.

[Prowler]

It absolutely is at it's root. It's called HPV. And more and more they are reporting that a lot of cancers are coming from longer term infections that don't clear up from a variety of sources, both viral and bacterial.

You're right. Untreated infections can eventually lead to cancer.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I tend to only really get offended by blatant cruelty to animals in movies or shows, simply because I'm an animal lover at heart, and it kills me to see stuff like that.

[CyberCubed]

I tend to only really get offended by blatant cruelty to animals in movies or shows, simply because I'm an animal lover at heart, and it kills me to see stuff like that.

At the very least, the animal brutality isn't real and no animals are really harmed in production. A lot of shows/movies always play the "dead dog" thing to play up the heartstrings of the characters or dog lovers in real life.

[Leo656]

I was offended at this....

https://i.imgur.com/Tuxro6Dl.jpg

Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous.

Imagine scripting a scenario where a fictional employee who works for BET or whatever quits to go work for TNT, and gives a speech about how they "want to go work for influential, motivated white guys instead of angry young black people." Huge uproar, show cancelled, right?

But you can be openly racist and ageist against white people (especially men) because "Something Something 'Privilege' Something."

I'm inclined to believe that prejudice and racism is just plain Prejudice and Racism, personally.

I mean if I'm not allowed to lay into fat and ugly people then it shouldn't be okay to sh*t on white people or guys. Fair's fair.

[IMJ]

Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous.

Imagine scripting a scenario where a fictional employee who works for BET or whatever quits to go work for TNT, and gives a speech about how they "want to go work for influential, motivated white guys instead of angry young black people." Huge uproar, show cancelled, right?

But you can be openly racist and ageist against white people (especially men) because "Something Something 'Privilege' Something."

I'm inclined to believe that prejudice and racism is just plain Prejudice and Racism, personally.

I mean if I'm not allowed to lay into fat and ugly people then it shouldn't be okay to sh*t on white people or guys. Fair's fair.

Exactly.

I would never reply to a thread like this with some exaggerated reaction to a non-starter, let alone in real life be opportunistically offended or use "offended" as a manipulation. That kind of behavior is so far removed from who I am - it's not even close. But I would cite something like that Jenna Dewan moment as valid for sure.

Also, when these riots and the "hate for white people" became in vogue, I saw some fat b!()h on T.V. in a car at some kind of riot driving around in circles yelling out the window "kill the white folk! Kill the white folk!" I was pretty offended by that.

[Prowler]

Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous.

Imagine scripting a scenario where a fictional employee who works for BET or whatever quits to go work for TNT, and gives a speech about how they "want to go work for influential, motivated white guys instead of angry young black people." Huge uproar, show cancelled, right?

But you can be openly racist and ageist against white people (especially men) because "Something Something 'Privilege' Something."

I'm inclined to believe that prejudice and racism is just plain Prejudice and Racism, personally.

I mean if I'm not allowed to lay into fat and ugly people then it shouldn't be okay to sh*t on white people or guys. Fair's fair.
I refuse to believe that anyone other than a VERY vocal small group of people actually believes only White people are capable of racism and that they can't be victims of racism.

I don't know what they're teaching kids nowadays, but I've always been taught that racism is simply hating people for being of a different "race". Which is super obvious since, you know, it's in the name. It's pretty self-explanatory I'd say.

Whoever changed the definition to it having to come from a position of power has got some explaining to do. Also, those people only seme to focus on white and black relations. What about, let's say, prejudice between a Chinese and an Indian person? Who has the "Power" in that situation and whose prejudice can be called "racism"? Something tells me they haven't thought about that...

[IMJ]

I refuse to believe that anyone other than a VERY vocal small group of people actually believes only White people are capable of racism and that they can't be victims of racism.

It's only in vogue right now to fling this kind of mentality. Combine that with the generation doing it who have no real information about the past, or a world of racist history from non-whites everywhere and you've got a real set of eggs for the millenial & Gen Y mental souffle.

Which is ironic, because at large it isn't white people keeping racism alive.

[Prowler]

It's only in vogue right now to fling this kind of mentality. Combine that with the generation doing it who have no real information about the past, or a world of racist history from non-whites everywhere and you've got a real set of eggs for the millenial & Gen Y mental souffle.

Which is ironic, because at large it isn't white people keeping racism alive.
It seems to be mostly a thing in New World nations like USA, Canada, Brazil, Australia, etc. Aka countries that had their native populations either slaughtered or oppressed, and in USA's and Brazil's case, the enslavenent of black people brought by Europeans during the transatlantic slave trade.

Thing is, if you go to the Old World, things get muddier and racism is a much more complex thing. While in USA anyone who's white is automatically white and anyone who's black is automatically black to people, in Europe, Asia and Africa people will identify with their nationality or region primarily.

A Polish guy could go The Netherlands and face harsher discrimination than a black Dutch person born in the country because he will be a foreign in the eyes of the native population and him being white won't make him any more relatable. Which is why white privilege as a concept seems laughable and extremely flawed to me.

Hell, Croatians and Serbians have quite similar cultures and nearly speak the same language. And yet, we all know what happened in the Balkans in the 90s, don't we.

People from Sub-Saharan Africa also didn't see the transatlantic slave trade as "black people selling their fellow black people to white people".

Asia? According to my Korean friend, South East Asians such as Filipinos suffer way worse discrimination in Korea than white or black people do.

[Coola Yagami]

It seems to be mostly a thing in New World nations like USA, Canada, Brazil, Australia, etc. Aka countries that had their native populations either slaughtered or oppressed, and in USA's and Brazil's case, the enslavenent of black people brought by Europeans during the transatlantic slave trade.

Thing is, if you go to the Old World, things get muddier and racism is a much more complex thing. While in USA anyone who's white is automatically white and anyone who's black is automatically black to people, in Europe, Asia and Africa people will identify with their nationality or region primarily.

A Polish guy could go The Netherlands and face harsher discrimination than a black Dutch person born in the country because he will be a foreign in the eyes of the native population and him being white won't make him any more relatable. Which is why white privilege as a concept seems laughable and extremely flawed to me.

Hell, Croatians and Serbians have quite similar cultures and nearly speak the same language. And yet, we all know what happened in the Balkans in the 90s, don't we.

People from Sub-Saharan Africa also didn't see the transatlantic slave trade as "black people selling their fellow black people to white people".

Asia? According to my Korean friend, South East Asians such as Filipinos suffer way worse discrimination in Korea than white or black people do.

I think the general (ignorant) mentality is all minorities hate 'the white man' so much they all kinda come together. But you're right, other races can also be racist against black people, and other races that are NOT white or black can still be racist towards each other. But they always want to make it into this black and white thing.

[CyberCubed]

Many Asians seem to be racist against each other too. The Chinese hate the Japanese and vice versa, the Koreans are at odds with them too. Then the Burmese Chinese are prejudice by mainlanders, then you have Taiwan who hates China or the Southeast Asians.

Kinda odd people lump "Asians" all into one pile when in reality there's like 10 different nations and subcultures of Asian people all with their own racism.

[Andrew NDB]

Many Asians seem to be racist against each other too. The Chinese hate the Japanese and vice versa, the Koreans are at odds with them too. Then the Burmese Chinese are prejudice by mainlanders, then you have Taiwan who hates China or the Southeast Asians.

Kinda odd people lump "Asians" all into one pile when in reality there's like 10 different nations and subcultures of Asian people all with their own racism.

A lot of Japanese hate Koreans, yeah. I've seen it firsthand ("disgusting people, they eat with fingers, and all the spitting!" -- an old boss). Also every Laotian I've met seems to despise Hmong people.

[sdp]

It's hilarious to see the original TMNT fans grow up and become Abraham Simpson. I guess it'll happen to me eventually, I'll be that crazy old man with his stories no one takes seriously. I'll try to fight it off as long as I can.
https://slavesincstrip.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/abe-simpson-lonley.gif

[ZariusTwo]

It's hilarious to see the original TMNT fans grow up and become Abraham Simpson. I guess it'll happen to me eventually, I'll be that crazy old man with his stories no one takes seriously. I'll try to fight it off as long as I can.
https://slavesincstrip.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/abe-simpson-lonley.gif

That's both a fear and a joy...fear that you'll end up growing old in a world where it's more difficult to be understood, and joy because all the people who want the world to think and act a certain way will themselves find their ideas slowly becoming antiquated and intolerable to a sharper-minded generation coming up, who'll have their own ideas and might not like how things have turned out.

[Leo656]

It's hilarious to see the original TMNT fans grow up and become Abraham Simpson. I guess it'll happen to me eventually, I'll be that crazy old man with his stories no one takes seriously. I'll try to fight it off as long as I can.
https://slavesincstrip.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/abe-simpson-lonley.gif

You espouse proven nonsense, repeat yourself constantly, and nobody takes you seriously.

...Are you SURE you're not there already?

[Prowler]

It's hilarious to see the original TMNT fans grow up and become Abraham Simpson. I guess it'll happen to me eventually, I'll be that crazy old man with his stories no one takes seriously. I'll try to fight it off as long as I can.
https://slavesincstrip.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/abe-simpson-lonley.gif
You're turning into a poor man's version of CyberCubed.

[CyberCubed]

LEAVE SDP ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!111111

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/25/f1/dc25f1308aba68a8b5b9dc09a795c413.gif

He posts his analytics on everything and you BASTARDS take him for granted!

JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE GODDAAMIT......just LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

#sdpDidNothingWrong

[IMJ]

LEAVE SDP ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!111111
ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

At first glance I thought this was your binary encoding of wisdom. I thought you went all Neo on us and maybe had wisdom to share. And then I realized you missed the shift key here and there and your whole message went down the drain.

SDP needs a conservator. It should be you.

[Prowler]

LEAVE SDP ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!111111

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/25/f1/dc25f1308aba68a8b5b9dc09a795c413.gif

He posts his analytics on everything and you BASTARDS take him for granted!

JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE GODDAAMIT......just LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

#sdpDidNothingWrong
Wow, the "leave Britney alone!" guy. Talk about a blast from the past :lol: That was one of the earliest YouTube videos to become a viral sensation, wasn't it? It was from around early 2007 or so? Geez, how was that over a decade ago already?

[ABrown]

Unless a member here has been personally portrayed in a piece of media, there's no reason that he/she should be PERSONALLY offended by anything.

[Last Ronin]

LEAVE SDP ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!111111

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/25/f1/dc25f1308aba68a8b5b9dc09a795c413.gif

He posts his analytics on everything and you BASTARDS take him for granted!

JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE GODDAAMIT......just LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

#sdpDidNothingWrong

Sarcasm...right?

I get it man lol.

[PizzaPower1985]

Apart from NEWS MEDIA? Okay... that's not what you mean...

Mostly what offends me are very old things that are seen as "Classics" that people still regard as such in the 21st century. Am I a thick-skinned lefty? The jury is out.

Gone With the Wind offends me!
Bambi offends me!
Dumbo (the 40s cartoon) offends me!

Let's get this out of the way... a lot of Disney offends me... not exactly a reviled classic, but Song of the South offends me!

Easy targets I guess. Birth of the Nation (the original movie) offends me!

GG Allin records offend me, though I like some of his songs, like his cover for Dwight Yokam's Carmelita.
A lot of materialistic and misogynist rap music offends me! Public Enemy and NWA are more my flavor as opposed to the guy who wants to rap about his 10 car garage or rolling around in a bed of $$$ or how much he gets laid. That sh*t empowers no one and is the shallowest form of music imaginable.

Ironically, SJW comic books offend me... badly! Because comics are not supposed to be that! There is nothing wrong with making the world a better place by identifying social ills and trying to eliminate them... but Marvel is really bad with their SJW sh*t.

all of the old racist skinhead punk bands from the 80's offend me bad!

That's all the media that is bad... off the top of my head!

There's a lot of things I should be offended by... that I'm not... because I TRY to not let my personal politics effect my enjoyment of media, but racism, misogyny etc. dont get a pass.

[Jester]

Why Bambi?

[PizzaPower1985]

Why Bambi? LoL.

Any student of film theory might understand why Bambi is offensive... I'll preface this by saying... you have to watch the movie and be very familiar with Walt's intention and very familiar with the film itself to know this...

Bambi was an anti-single mother narrative and full of sexism. "Mother" is shot near the end. It implies that women cannot make it without a patriarch. TYPICAL WALT! She is the most important female character in the entire film and she never even gets a name and then she is killed. This forces Bambi, the male, to grow up and go into action as THE DOMINATING MALE... DISNEY's (and possibly the first in all of animation) first instance of WOMEN IN REFRIGERATORS. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StuffedIntoTheFridge

Then, there is the implied sexuality of ALL FEMALE characters... never mind that they're animals... all the ladies gotta be curvy and even wear makeup. Am I reaching or is that Sexism? I seriously am asking this question.

Also, the women in this forest are INCREDIBLY aggressive sexually. The men all initially act like stereotypical “Girls are gross!” teens/preteens… and then are immediately seduced by some very aggressive women. (Flower, who honestly came off as feminine to me until they made his voice more masculine after he grew up, is kissed and goes stiff, being engorged with blood; Thumper gets slowly hip-swayed at by a lusty bunny; Bambi gets face-licked by Faline.) Bambi, of course, almost immediately gets into a fight with another man… either over Faline or just because men fight? Cause men gotta be aggro and disgusting right? It's what we do! We're so tough. BARF!

Bambi then has to be raised by the King Deer... his Papa, from confused adolescent into a man, because only real men get raised by real men! Again, BARF!

So many stereotypes... So little time... Some of these might be subjective BUT if you can't see WALT's distaste for strong female characters, watch it again! WOMEN SHOULD NEVER be portrayed as helpless and needing a man to survive!

I hope this thread does not get shut down because of my post because... as the Drome's resident FAR LEFTIST... I'm sure I can offend a lot of right-wing sensibilities... Ever since Plastron Cafe left, it's gotten kinda lonely!

[PizzaPower1985]

Also, Bambi may be the most beautifully animated Disney film ever made! Gorgeous to look at.

Converse to Disney, the other big animation house, Fleischer Studios... never really had the mean streak that early Disney had. The Fleischer Superman cartoons featured some pro-American, racist WW2 propaganda in the way they treated the Japanese... but other than that, and apart from early Betty Boop shorts, their studio was wholesome by comparison.

[Leo656]

Ever since Plastron Cafe left, it's gotten kinda lonely!

Yeah, WAY less arguing and passive-aggressive snark and sh*t-stirring. I'm sure we all miss THAT. :roll:

The best was when she would poke and prod people like my buddy Dave until they'd snap and get themselves Banned over the fact that they couldn't help but react to her stupid nonsense (OVER-react, sure, but as I always say, "overreacting is still just reacting"; by definition, a person has to be provoked before they can overreact). Accusing people of "social climbing" merely for trying to start and maintain actual conversations. Good grief. Dave's a good guy and his contributions are sorely missed. Her? Not so much.

Not to mention all those cringe-y "It's actually totally okay to cheat on your relationship partner because you're not their property and monogamy is a social construct and blah blah blah" type of posts. Something is seriously wrong with her.

Crap human being using their "Woke"-ness as a way to try and prop themselves up as the "Best Person in the Room." But actually, just plain terrible.

Board arguments went down massively once she had enough and quit. Hardly anyone fights, and nobody gets Banned. There was "The Voltron Thing", but that can be written off an isolated incident. And lo and behold, that was another uber-Lefty who couldn't handle being told that their nonsense was, indeed nonsense. Must be something in the water... or whatever those people drink.

Anyways. She's not missed, Rant Over.

[Prowler]

Someone actually misses plastron? I'm surprised. I can't say I miss her.

Arguments will always occur on any forum, this one included, but I can't help but notice things have gotten less tense and more relaxed around these parts once certain users either left or started to diminish their participation. Not gonna name any names.

[PizzaPower1985]

Yeah, WAY less arguing and passive-aggressive snark and sh*t-stirring. I'm sure we all miss THAT. :roll:

The best was when she would poke and prod people like my buddy Dave until they'd snap and get themselves Banned over the fact that they couldn't help but react to her stupid nonsense (OVER-react, sure, but as I always say, "overreacting is still just reacting"; by definition, a person has to be provoked before they can overreact). Accusing people of "social climbing" merely for trying to start and maintain actual conversations. Good grief. Dave's a good guy and his contributions are sorely missed. Her? Not so much.

Not to mention all those cringe-y "It's actually totally okay to cheat on your relationship partner because you're not their property and monogamy is a social construct and blah blah blah" type of posts. Something is seriously wrong with her.

Crap human being using their "Woke"-ness as a way to try and prop themselves up as the "Best Person in the Room." But actually, just plain terrible.

Board arguments went down massively once she had enough and quit. Hardly anyone fights, and nobody gets Banned. There was "The Voltron Thing", but that can be written off an isolated incident. And lo and behold, that was another uber-Lefty who couldn't handle being told that their nonsense was, indeed nonsense. Must be something in the water... or whatever those people drink.

Anyways. She's not missed, Rant Over.

Well, hopefully, my posts have been not as blatantly political or as inflammatory... unless, like above... that may be called for. I have a feeling there are a lot of alt-right, super-authoritarian types here that think me also to be a maniac. Can't help that... but I have generally attempted to stay on topic and not step on toes!

But back on topic,

whitewashing or race swapping in films and adaptation offends me!
it happens too often and just makes me think that few who adapt things have any imagination.

[Last Ronin]

Imma be real.... I am in a few forums and I actually like this one. It's well balanced and not super lefty snowflake and super alt right its just right....

You are my just right bowl of porrage...*however you spell that damn word*

[Sumac]

Only media which can offend me is a bad media, like bad movies or bad video games.

[GoldMutant]

I usually keep an open mind on whatever media I come across. Bear in mind, I am focusing on Communication Studies for school.

In my experience, I haven't been offended by a specific topic. Granted, my mind's been fuzzy due to facing my own problems. It's led to me ignoring a lot of general media aside from word of mouth or the Internet.

However, if walking out or shutting off my system counts as offended, then that's a different can of worms. Likely going to revisit the topic at some point after I leave college and (potentially) grad school.

[Coola Yagami]

Then, there is the implied sexuality of ALL FEMALE characters... never mind that they're animals... all the ladies gotta be curvy and even wear makeup. Am I reaching or is that Sexism? I seriously am asking this question.

Also, the women in this forest are INCREDIBLY aggressive sexually. The men all initially act like stereotypical “Girls are gross!” teens/preteens… and then are immediately seduced by some very aggressive women. (Flower, who honestly came off as feminine to me until they made his voice more masculine after he grew up, is kissed and goes stiff, being engorged with blood; Thumper gets slowly hip-swayed at by a lusty bunny; Bambi gets face-licked by Faline.) Bambi, of course, almost immediately gets into a fight with another man… either over Faline or just because men fight? Cause men gotta be aggro and disgusting right? It's what we do! We're so tough. BARF!




This part kinds confuses me. I thought women WANTED to be in charge sexually. I would think way more people would get offended if it was the other way around, where the men just beat their chests or whatever and the women just have their jaws drop and flock to them uncontrollably.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Yes, I have been. By this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2f5OVZ7Oo

Did I curl up into a ball and cry my eyes out over it? No. But it did make my blood boil.

[IMJ]

Yes, I have been. By this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2f5OVZ7Oo

Did I curl up into a ball and cry my eyes out over it? No. But it did make my blood boil.

Oh ya that was like.... one of the atom bombs of revealing racism from POS people everywhere revealing their instant and insatiable need for a "white devil" in all aspects of their lives.

And I'm glad it was there. Permanent evidence of the era in a variety of ways.

[NeonTurtledude]

I used to pretend to get offended at Ireland's depictions in Family Guy, but I didn't mind it in the Simpsons.

there are definitely times where I think Family Guy goes too far but that doesn't offend me, it's just a show I'm not that into and when it's a bad episode, I'm not gonna enjoy it, I have warmed up to it a bit in recent years though, depends on the episode.

If there's a piece of media I don't like it's more due to a bad story, bad writing or characters not acting in character, I don't really get offended by it.

[Cowabung-Gal]

I used to pretend to get offended at Ireland's depictions in Family Guy, but I didn't mind it in the Simpsons.

there are definitely times where I think Family Guy goes too far but that doesn't offend me, it's just a show I'm not that into and when it's a bad episode, I'm not gonna enjoy it, I have warmed up to it a bit in recent years though, depends on the episode.

If there's a piece of media I don't like it's more due to a bad story, bad writing or characters not acting in character, I don't really get offended by it.

Yeah, Family Guy sucks anyway. I’m more of a King Of The Hill person myself

(Sorry FG fans)

[NeonTurtledude]

Yeah, Family Guy sucks anyway. I’m more of a King Of The Hill person myself

(Sorry FG fans)


I've heard good things about King of the Hill, I should try it someday when I'm done with everything else I plan to watch

[Leo656]

King of the Hill is fantastic. Great "slice-of-life" comedy/drama, extremely well-written and down to earth.

I do love Family Guy but I "kind of" get why others don't. It doesn't even pretend that the plots matter anymore, it's all random humor and trying to be as patently offensive as possible. But I like that. I think some people kind of miss the point and hate on it for simply being exactly what it's trying to be.

"Drawn Together" is one of my favorite shows of all time and that show was just an excuse to be as racist and sexist and "What the F*CK is THAT?" as possible. Zero pretense. Nothing like Tara Strong - who is VERY Jewish and a beloved children's TV show icon, most notably in My Little Pony but in tons of other cartoons as well - playing a Disney Princess knockoff character who's outspokenly racist and uses "Hitlerina" as her stripper name while giving lap dances to her own Dad. :lol:

That's the kinda sh*t I like. I like sh*t that makes you wonder if God will strike you down with a lightning bolt for laughing out loud at it. That's the best kind of humor, because it's honest.

[NeonTurtledude]

yeah, I do like shows like South Park though


I've seen a bit of Drawn Together, I enjoyed it, I also quite like the Boondocks


I like some honest subversive humour too, Robot Chicken, South Park, the dorkly and mashed video game web animations, Sonic for Hire and the anime Panty and Stocking

[Leo656]

Boondocks is f*cking great, man. F*cking great.

South Park is "fine" but at some point they started thinking they were way more "smart" and clever than they actually are. And I hate how sometimes they'll stretch an entire joke out over an entire Season. I don't know anyone who likes that but they've been doing it for f*cking ever, now.