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Zulithe
03-10-2021, 08:59 AM
In what looks like one of the best new and official TMNT games in quite some time, I present to you: Shredder's Revenge, a new beat-em-up!
Platforms: PC, Playstation, XBox, Nintendo Switch
Release Date: COMING SOON!
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder’s Revenge features groundbreaking gameplay rooted in timeless classic brawling mechanics, brought to you by the beat ’em up experts at Dotemu (Streets of Rage 4) and Tribute Games. Bash your way through gorgeous pixel art environments and slay tons of hellacious enemies with your favorite Turtle, each with his own skills and moves - making each run unique! Choose a fighter, use radical combos to defeat your opponents and experience intense combats loaded with breathtaking action and outrageous ninja abilities. Stay sharp as you face off against Shredder and his faithful Foot Clan alone, or grab your best buds and play with up to four players simultaneously!
Initial Trailer:
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Gameplay Trailer:
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https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1361510/extras/GIF2V2.gif?t=1615388260
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FEATURES:
* Gnarly game design takes you back to the ’80s
* Beautiful full-color pixel art graphics
* Old-school gameplay enhanced with super-fresh mechanics
* Up to four players simultaneously
* Play with iconic TMNT characters and vehicles in diverse gameplay options
* Radical new story mode
* And totally more to come!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1361510/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_Shredders_Revenge/
gameinformer article with some more information (https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/03/10/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge-rises-out-of-the-ooze)
Official Discord: Check their store page for the Discord link!
Sumac
03-10-2021, 09:06 AM
I'd prefer bigger sprites and faster gameplay, but compared to recent TMNT games - it looks ****ing sweet!
vicsavage
03-10-2021, 09:20 AM
I need this now.
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 09:23 AM
Goddamit, I'll have to buy this. I don't know what it is but when you make stuff in the 80's cartoon style it immediately hits a nostalgia chord and compels me to spend money.
They really know their 30+ year old adults.
I hope it doesn't abuse the original 2 arcade games in terms of levels and is mostly original but so far the trailer looks fairly original so I think it's only a fear. High hopes.
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 09:28 AM
Given all the most recent TMNT games are either mobile phone garbage or have been bad/lackluster games (like Mutants in Manhattan), it'd be refreshing to play a "good" TMNT game again.
Sumac
03-10-2021, 09:29 AM
I hope there is an option to give Turtles different colors a-la Turtles in Time.
RaphaelinSTL
03-10-2021, 09:31 AM
This looks amazing!!! This has to come to the Switch.
Let's hope they saw what Merso X did with Rescue Palooza and the step up their game and deliver something good and not half assed like TMNT Arcade Attack
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 09:36 AM
Pretty sure it'll come to all modern consoles like these type of games tend to. My hope is it's pretty long at least 8-10 stages, has some good varied boss fights and some extra hard modes.
I see a lot of people comparing this to Streets of Rage 4 which just came out last year, if it's similar to that this should be good.
Zulithe
03-10-2021, 09:43 AM
Added some more info to the OP.
There is an article up on gameinformer with some more information
https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/03/10/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge-rises-out-of-the-ooze
oldmanwinters
03-10-2021, 09:44 AM
Glad it's going to consoles and Steam rather being another micro-transaction mobile game!
Zulithe
03-10-2021, 09:46 AM
Glad it's going to consoles and Steam rather being another micro-transaction mobile game!
The entire fandom let out a collective sigh of relief, no doubt!
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 09:46 AM
I wonder if they got any of the old voice actors to reprise their roles. They probably didn't, but I suppose it's possible given the VA's worked with Nick on the crossovers in the 2012 cartoon.
Theonlywessmith
03-10-2021, 09:48 AM
Good lord I cant wait for this!!! I wish this was the animation style for the next cartoon iteration TMNT: The Next chapter!!!! I would dig the hell out of a badass continuation of the FW series. That intro is beautiful!
oldmanwinters
03-10-2021, 09:48 AM
I'm not personally familiar with the listed publisher Dotemu, but is there any indication that they now have the exclusive rights to TMNT console games?
Surprised to see they were also the Publisher on Streets of Rage 4. I thought that came out under the SEGA brand, but maybe not.
Diorm
03-10-2021, 09:54 AM
If it's made by the guys from Scott Pilgrim, it's gonna be awesome, no doubt.
80gmrp
03-10-2021, 10:00 AM
I'm not personally familiar with the listed publisher Dotemu, but is there any indication that they now have the exclusive rights to TMNT console games?
Surprised to see they were also the Publisher on Streets of Rage 4. I thought that came out under the SEGA brand, but maybe not.
Speaking as the composer for a game in a somewhat similar vein, I did hear about SoR 4, which could mean this game might have a good developer given the circumstances.
Emphasize the circumstances. It’s good that Nick is no longer ignoring older fans completely, but honestly, this goes a little too far back for me, crazy as it may sound for someone obsessed with the 80s, and if a certain favorite character of mine must appear in this, I really hope the game will be like Rescue Palooza in that you can unlock different characters to play as, including him, though given what I have seen of this, I’m not holding my breath for that much.
UPDATE: also feel it best to let Zulithe and others know: the Discord link on Steam is invalid.
UPDATE #2: Discord link does seem to work now.
ZariusTwo
03-10-2021, 10:08 AM
I appreciate that we're getting another retro style game and all...but...seriously? Strap me up for season eleven of Fred Wolf after that intro!
Igglet
03-10-2021, 10:13 AM
holy ****ing ****
Tortuglio
03-10-2021, 10:19 AM
Sweet news! I have much faith in Tribute Games, Jonathan Lavigne is a beast when it comes to pixel art. I believe that his previous works with Paul Robertson (Scott Pilgrim, Mercenary Kings) improved his art in many ways. TMNT for the GBA was a pretty good beat em up, add a bunch of years of experience and the opportunity as a developer to be more creative with gameplay and it sounds like a great possible game. Don't know much of Dotemu but i've heard great thing from the WB and SoR remakes.
So, fingers crossed! :tgrin:
Roseangelo
03-10-2021, 10:29 AM
I just need them to confirm this will be on Switch and I can be 100% happy.
Zulithe
03-10-2021, 10:31 AM
UPDATE: also feel it best to let Zulithe and others know: the Discord link on Steam is invalid.
UPDATE #2: Discord link does seem to work now.
Check the description of their YouTube video for another link if it goes down again!
It's obviously going to be on Switch it's the most popular console right now, PS5/Xbox seem like a given, perhaps PS4/Xbox One as well. I doubt they have the rights to make TMNT games, just have the license for this one game, they're a small developer that were given a chance to work on the property not a big studio who purchased the license.
Let's see how it goes, I'll keep my expectations low but I think it'll be a great game, just perhaps not amazing.
darthsmozers
03-10-2021, 10:36 AM
I appreciate that we're getting another retro style game and all...but...seriously? Strap me up for season eleven of Fred Wolf after that intro!
Agreed! I don't even need the game! That video was worth it!
SS Kakarot
03-10-2021, 10:37 AM
Very excited about this, it looks really good! :tgrin:
Hoping for a PS4 release! :D
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 10:37 AM
I can't believe Chrome Dome is in this. Talk about fanservice.
Roseangelo
03-10-2021, 10:37 AM
It's obviously going to be on Switch it's the most popular console right now
Except that a lot of developers still skip Switch, so it's not a given. Seems extremely likely, though.
bmxbandit
03-10-2021, 10:44 AM
So pumped to see a fresh turtles game! Been way too long!
Deep down I still keep hoping we'll get a game similar to Spider-Man or the Rocksteady Studios Batman games but hopefully this sells well and gives the franchise some spotlight to hopefully make something like that a reality down the road.
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 10:55 AM
I'm surprised they didn't make it based on Rise. This probably started development before they knew Rise would be canceled.
shihe
03-10-2021, 11:43 AM
Let's hope they saw what Merso X did with Rescue Palooza and the step up their game and deliver something good and not half assed like TMNT Arcade Attack
I have a feeling they did!
Cause they certainly did their homework with Streets of Rage 4, bringing it really close to an official Streets of Rage Remake.
So I have complete confidence in them.
Heck, this version of April o'Neil isn't famous for fighting, yet she does. I have a feeling she and Splinter will be unlockable. (Hopefully Casey too, and if that's the case, wonder who the 4th will be).
I love everything about the trailer. Sprite size included!
Also hoping they don't rehash too many levels and bosses. (Like, they can use the same boss characters, but would be good of they don't fight exactly like in TAG or TiT).
Roseangelo
03-10-2021, 12:57 PM
I'm surprised they didn't make it based on Rise. This probably started development before they knew Rise would be canceled.
Or they wanted to make a game that people would actually want to play, and thus be successful, so this is exactly what they were always planning to make.
Mexiun
03-10-2021, 01:05 PM
So hyped for this!
Finally a TMNT game i want to buy after... well, forever.
Really hope they put Slash in this game (based on the toy or Archie, not the horrible hulking ones after those versions)
FrederikWolferson
03-10-2021, 01:24 PM
Damn,looks great.
Mad Dog McMutt
03-10-2021, 01:26 PM
I never thought I would ever see a new turtles game with the original cartoon characters. I am super excited. It's like a dream come true.
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 01:28 PM
I never thought I would ever see a new turtles game with the original cartoon characters. I am super excited. It's like a dream come true.
Wasn't there one on mobile phones going on the last few years?
Zulithe
03-10-2021, 01:33 PM
Wasn't there one on mobile phones going on the last few years?
Yes and it's still active and free to play for those with the patience. There is a thread here on the VG Discussion forum for those interested.
80gmrp
03-10-2021, 01:38 PM
On a note related to my own concerns, I was informed of a petition for this game to include the Mighty Mutantimals as DLC.
https://www.change.org/p/tribute-games-make-a-mutanimals-dlc-pack-for-tmnt-shredder-s-revenge-d812c0ad-9ae4-4c51-899f-81a4f0ee8796
Mad Dog McMutt
03-10-2021, 01:39 PM
Wasn't there one on mobile phones going on the last few years?
I didn't know about it. I don't keep up with mobile phone games because I hate touch screen controls. Besides, I have a ton of game consoles to play games on.
shredder orokusaki
03-10-2021, 01:50 PM
YEESSSS MY NEW GAME FINALY ANNOUNCED! I will beat the turltes again and again I will also upload a video with me fighting the turtles(last boss fight) and beating them! They will not escape me this time!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86JYR7bK6RU i WILL take my REVENGE! MUHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHA!!!!!!
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 02:53 PM
ResetEra is excited since most people there are 30-40 years old and grew up with the original show:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredder%E2%80%99s-revenge-announced-for-pc-and-console-dotemu-tribute-games.391582/
TigerClaw
03-10-2021, 03:47 PM
This was a long time coming. I'm happy were finally getting a new game based on FW TMNT.
FredWolfLeonardo
03-10-2021, 04:30 PM
I wonder if there will be more cutscenes in the game with animation like the trailer. It would be especially sweet if they got the Original Cartoon cast altogether once again.
TigerClaw
03-10-2021, 04:36 PM
It would be cool if they can get the original voice actors.
Tuxedo Moroboshi
03-10-2021, 05:41 PM
I'm pretty excited for this. I do wonder, though, if we'll see a little from some of the other TMNT universes (but only ones that were around during the NES/SNES eras). I know this is definitely '87 toon inspired to the max, but those old Konami games did like to mix things up and include a sprinkling of things from other canons.
Heck, this version of April o'Neil isn't famous for fighting, yet she does. I have a feeling she and Splinter will be unlockable. (Hopefully Casey too, and if that's the case, wonder who the 4th will be).
With the very prominent presence of the Triceratons (or at least seemingly, so far), I'm hoping for Fugitoid. Either with the old-school Playmates design, or something similar to his Mirage design (either would work, I think).
neatoman
03-10-2021, 05:56 PM
It would be cool if they can get the original voice actors.
Isn't at least one of them dead?
terrorblade
03-10-2021, 05:58 PM
It reminds me of Wayforward's TMNT game on Gameboy Advance, mostly because of the black outline on the pixels.
DVSleeSmooth
03-10-2021, 06:49 PM
Super hyped for this. Have wanted a new legit tmnt game for a while and liked the older beat em ups on Snes and Genesis.
Also heard the guys working on Scott Pilgrim will be working on this so if done right its gonna be amazing
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 06:57 PM
Holy crap did they put Tiffany in this?
https://i.imgur.com/gpXRxKT.gif
This is a deep cut, she was only in 2 episodes! I love all these hardcore cameos only hardcore TMNT fans would know about. It's so hardcore.
Holy crap did they put Tiffany in this?
https://i.imgur.com/gpXRxKT.gif
This is a deep cut, she was only in 2 episodes! I love all these hardcore cameos only hardcore TMNT fans would know about. It's so hardcore.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4kJFONQB1eI/hqdefault.jpg
Shark_Blade
03-10-2021, 08:08 PM
Tiffany was Byrne Thompson’s secretary/girlfriend? I think I saw her in Season 2.
Great to have a new TMNT game! OT still lives on amazingly.
Since were seeing April kicking asses in the intro, I guess she will be playable too? Awesome! :tlove:
Tuxedo Moroboshi
03-10-2021, 09:16 PM
Holy crap did they put Tiffany in this?
https://i.imgur.com/gpXRxKT.gif
This is a deep cut, she was only in 2 episodes! I love all these hardcore cameos only hardcore TMNT fans would know about. It's so hardcore.
That is definitely a good sign.
Sumac
03-10-2021, 09:56 PM
Also, it might be a stretch, but octopus in the background picture, looks like a logo from an episode "Corporate Riders from Dimension X".
I think it is the same episode where Bebop and Rocksteady were wearing business suits instead of their usual attires.
Leo656
03-10-2021, 10:04 PM
Looks fine for what it is, I'll probably check it out if it comes out for anything I own. We need Andrew to come in and say it's terrible and that all TMNT beat-'em-ups are a boring waste of time. :lol::trazz:
Why the f*ck does Mikey run like he's mentally handicapped? I only ever play as Leo anyway but that's definitely an odd choice. :lol:
darthsmozers
03-10-2021, 10:07 PM
Isn't at least one of them dead?
All of the turtles’ voice actors are alive and well.
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 10:08 PM
That's an anime run.
Leo656
03-10-2021, 10:12 PM
I don't care what it is, looks dumb. :lol:
CyberCubed
03-10-2021, 10:16 PM
In terms of enemies so far we have Shredder, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, Baxter, Chrome Dome, Foot, Rock Soldiers, Mousers, etc.
Hopefully Rat King, Leatherhead, Slash, Metalhead, Rahzar/Tokka are in this too, it really wouldn't be a complete TMNT game without all the old bosses to fight again.
Prowler
03-10-2021, 10:31 PM
Looks promising! I'll try it if it comes out for the Switch.
Shark_Blade
03-10-2021, 11:22 PM
Rise fans are getting angry that ROTTMNT got sidelined by OT
https://twitter.com/hauntedfairy13/status/1369739092443811840?s=21
I’m just happy we are getting a turtle game tho, it’s been so long
That's an anime run.
The “running late for school with toast dangling in their mouth” kinda anime run.
RaphaelinSTL
03-11-2021, 12:49 AM
Man, I haven't been able to get this trailer out of my head since this morning. Glad to see it was trending on Twitter today and getting even more attention too.
Ever since Sonic Mania, I've been craving something for TMNT that went retro with a fresh take. Hell, I would've even settled for the "Radical Retro Collection" or whatever they could've called it and have them re-release all the old school games on a Mega Man Legacy Edition style collection.
But this? This is awesome. This is so great and I CANNOT wait to play this. I keep reading different reports on an actual release date ... and I wouldn't be surprised if this is a 2022 release, but I hope I'm wrong. While I have a Playstation 4, I ended up getting a Nintendo Switch last fall and I've been obsessed with it ever since so I'm hoping it makes it on the Switch. Judging by Streets of Rage 4, I'm thinking it will.
Retro gaming, hack n' slash and beat em up are my forte so this is way up my alley. I don't think that open world Spider-Man / Arkham Asylum style game people are clamoring for is ever going to happen. It could have kinda gotten there with Platinum Games, but the release date for Mutants in Manhattan was more important than the actual material.
I feel bad for anyone that wants to piss on this trailer, really. Your lack of fun would be showing.
All of the turtles’ voice actors are alive and well.I think he means James Avery who voiced the Shredder.
TheBlueTurtle1
03-11-2021, 01:37 AM
I want a cartoon show like the intro!
Mexiun
03-11-2021, 03:44 AM
I guess i'm the only one, or atleast one of the very few here, but i've always really liked Irma even as a kid in the 80's.
Now that this game is announced i wonder what they will do with her in this game, i hope she atleast makes a cameo (as Tiffany is also in it, so i guess Irma is a guarantee).
Zulithe
03-11-2021, 04:07 AM
705K views on YouTube and counting in less than one day!
Not bad for a TMNT video game trailer
Shark_Blade
03-11-2021, 04:16 AM
I guess i'm the only one, or atleast one of the very few here, but i've always really liked Irma even as a kid in the 80's.
Now that this game is announced i wonder what they will do with her in this game, i hope she atleast makes a cameo (as Tiffany is also in it, so i guess Irma is a guarantee).
Maybe Burne and Vernon will be there too since Tiffany was there.
shredder orokusaki
03-11-2021, 05:03 AM
Streets of rage 4 on max settings 2560x1440 60 fps has amazing graphics so iam sure it will look like amovie maxed 2560x1440 on my monster pc
CPU: RYZEN 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
SSD: MP 600 2TB
PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT
Powder
03-11-2021, 07:17 AM
I don't think you'll be able to run this one.
oldmanwinters
03-11-2021, 08:11 AM
Holy crap did they put Tiffany in this?
https://i.imgur.com/gpXRxKT.gif
This is a deep cut, she was only in 2 episodes! I love all these hardcore cameos only hardcore TMNT fans would know about. It's so hardcore.
MersoX did it first! Thought it is hilarious that Bebop is filtering with her.
BTW, where did you find the gif of that bit from? I take there are more gameplay clips beyond what was in the preview video?
EDIT: Maybe this is the source:
https://www.coplanet.it/113129/news/annunciato-il-beat-em-up-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge.html
MikeandRaph87
03-11-2021, 08:21 AM
It does have the same designs based off of Mutant Madness online game that came out last summer. I wonder if this is because of its success or are completely separately planned projects.
It is interesting that Neca made two different Tricerarton figures based off the 1987 cartoon who only appeared in one episode. Then Zorax is a boss in Mutant Madness and now appear to be a rock solider level enemy in a new beat'em up.
Chrome Dome is cool to see. He was just listed on the release schedule for Neca but has yet to be added into the Mutant Madness game. While Baxter The Fly appearing-the Baxter design appearing just as he does in the 1987 cartoon and the exact same model used in Mutant Madness.
It looks like vehicles used in the show and those that were toys that did not get used in the show will be utilized in the game.
Splinter's action sequence was really good. I did not expect the Sonic-like movements taking down the Mousers.
Also, April as a ally in combine never sat well with me. Its just taking up a space of another character that could used. However, we don't know if Splinter and April will be playable. Rescue Palooza and Mutant Madness have spoiled me in the last year.
CyberCubed
03-11-2021, 08:52 AM
Also, April as a ally in combine never sat well with me. Its just taking up a space of another character that could used. However, we don't know if Splinter and April will be playable. Rescue Palooza and Mutant Madness have spoiled me in the last year.
The characters fighting in the intro, especially April, makes it obvious they're going to be playable.
80gmrp
03-11-2021, 09:28 AM
In terms of enemies so far we have Shredder, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, Baxter, Chrome Dome, Foot, Rock Soldiers, Mousers, etc.
Hopefully Rat King, Leatherhead, Slash, Metalhead, Rahzar/Tokka are in this too, it really wouldn't be a complete TMNT game without all the old bosses to fight again.
Since you named him, I’ll finally just say it outright: honestly, part of me hopes Leatherhead does NOT appear, and if he absolutely must, that he be among any characters you can unlock to play as like in Rescue Palooza. Fortunately when it comes to the latter, I joined the Discord server, and the idea of DLC is being repeatedly thrown around there, so that’s one possible hope I have in that regard.
Lord Nightwalker
03-11-2021, 09:29 AM
I'll get it. But it's not what I want from a TMNT game. I'd have been more excited if they announced skins or character dlc crossing over in the upcoming Gotham Knights game. But, I'm staying optimistic that it's going to be an enjoyable game.
I want this game to draw influence from the playmates toys like the original konami games did, I don't want to see 87 character models running around like we're seeing with Tifanny and the triceraton. I mean if we get mutagen man I want the toy version not the cartoon one, just like with Slash etc.
Counting the amazing reception this game has gotten I'm sure Viacom is taking notice and if sales are good we'll definitely get a sequel.
In terms of enemies so far we have Shredder, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, Baxter, Chrome Dome, Foot, Rock Soldiers, Mousers, etc.
Hopefully Rat King, Leatherhead, Slash, Metalhead, Rahzar/Tokka are in this too, it really wouldn't be a complete TMNT game without all the old bosses to fight again.
I'd rather see new characters we haven't seen in beat em ups and of course sprinkle a few classics, but for example I don't want just the same bosses, skip rahzar/tokka for a sequel and give us Antrax and Scumbug. Mix it up. Chrome Dome is cool, we're obviously getting triceratons but there's so much more to pull from to rehash the same bosses that we've already beaten back in the 90s, give us new characters. If we get a sequel the others can come back, I don't want a new version of Turtles in Time, I want a sequel to Turtles in Time.
Slash should have his goofy 87 design. I hope they don't chicken out in using it.
CyberCubed
03-11-2021, 09:55 AM
I think they'll start off with the most recognizable characters because this is a new game, and then if we get DLC or a sequel, we'll get more "deep cuts" so to speak.
I dream of a day where I can fight Tempestra, Shreeka, and Mad Dog McMutt in a videogame.
MikeandRaph87
03-11-2021, 10:10 AM
I think they'll start off with the most recognizable characters because this is a new game, and then if we get DLC or a sequel, we'll get more "deep cuts" so to speak.
I dream of a day where I can fight Tempestra, Shreeka, and Mad Dog McMutt in a videogame.
Tempestra is in Mutant Madness as a boss in Act 9 and is playable as well.
However, yes , I understand. Its just instead of Mad Dog McMutt, I would like to see Big Louie as a boss with mob grunts as opponents in a level.
Cyndaquilfan123
03-11-2021, 10:14 AM
Interesting.
I still have my dream Arkham/Spider-Man game, but this looks fun, and chock full of references. I'm hoping for a physical release.
Now my main question is, as someone who was born way after the after OT ended, and the arcade games era, did they all fit in continuity with each-other? or were the games it's own separate thing? It'd be cool if this game was a continuation of the OT story, despite it being pretty much over.
Zulithe
03-11-2021, 10:42 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ooL5juvl.png (https://imgur.com/ooL5juv)
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1370048270395830274
triplexxx
03-11-2021, 10:48 AM
This is Turtle nostalgia at its best in years, LOVE THIS!
slingtheory
03-11-2021, 10:53 AM
It's kind of surprising to me how torn I am on this. On the the one hand I'm really excited to play it and can't wait for the release. The nostalgia hits well especially right now and all the gameplay features sound great. Honestly its my second most anticipated game now after gotham knights.
At the same time though as someone whose been impatiently waiting for a good current gen game I can't really shake my disappointment that after all these years apparently the best we can ever hope for is STILL a fw inspired side scrolling beat'em up.
Sumac
03-11-2021, 11:17 AM
At the same time though as someone whose been impatiently waiting for a good current gen game I can't really shake my disappointment that after all these years apparently the best we can ever hope for is STILL a fw inspired side scrolling beat'em up.
I am more dissappointed that after years of having one good comedy series (FW) and one serious one (2003) and the first movie, TMNT franchise was unable to bear anything more than 2012 series and Rise.
As for the games, as long as its good and with designs I like - I am cool with it. It's better than nothing or some ugly mobile ****.
oldmanwinters
03-11-2021, 11:51 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ooL5juvl.png (https://imgur.com/ooL5juv)
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1370048270395830274
Thanks for the heads up!
Mexiun
03-11-2021, 01:44 PM
I mean if we get mutagen man I want the toy version not the cartoon one, just like with Slash etc.
Same, i'm afraid that if Slash is in the game that he'll look like that awful weird bucktooth cartoon version, such an awful design.
Last Ronin
03-11-2021, 04:10 PM
I am soooo hyped for this game it's not even funny not a single bit funny.
oldmanwinters
03-11-2021, 04:20 PM
I don't have the right hardware to run the TwitterSpaces App, but anybody able to listen to the interview with the game devs (https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1370132596596744201)?
I saw this reaction posted on Discord:
"they’re treating the levels like a tv episode that leads up to the main attraction which he didn’t spoil"
"Smoother to chain combos"
"Footage we saw is alpha said they are far along"
RaphaelinSTL
03-11-2021, 04:28 PM
Listening too!
Sounds like the animation was just for the trailer ... but they could do more for the game.
Mexiun
03-11-2021, 04:43 PM
Wait the interview is getting posted for desktop right?
I want to listen to it without being spoiled.
oldmanwinters
03-11-2021, 04:54 PM
Summary from a Discord user who listened to the conversation:
They said seven months to make the trailer.
- Great fans of the arcade and the SNES game.
- Some of them worked on the GBA game at Ubisoft.
- Years wanting to do this game, but Activision had the rights.
- DotEmu also wanted the game, and they all meet at GDC three years ago.
- Made a pitch at Nickelodeon.
- It's not easy for a small French indie team to get these licenses, but making more and more games made it easier.
- Nickelodeon actually contacted Dotemu after Wonder Boy The Dragon's Trap and told them they wanted to make games together. Dotemu picked TMNT instantly.
- It took a long time to get all the details of the game and approve all of them, but the first Design Document was approved right away.
- A revisit of the Konami classics with new formulas and features. Wanted to polish the outdated aspects of the old games.
- 4-coop online confirmed.
- Aiming for each stage to be like an episode with a contained story, also of course coming to the big story (they didn't want to reveal anything).
- Smoother to chain combos, there are special attacks (really flashy ones).
- Development is at alpha stage, but it's pretty far along. Some changes of the trailer are already changed or improved (like menus or balancing).
- Both teams wanted to work on the 87' designs from the start and nothing else.
- Wizz studio in Paris did the new intro animation.
- TMNT theme, they wanted to do something new but faithful to the original.
- They had Patton via some contacts from their Streets of Rage 4 and discovered he was also a fan of the series and theme.
- Animation are only for the trailer, the game will have cutscenes but with in-game art style (but this could change, as this is alpha stage).
Questions from people:
- New things? Date? --> There will be unique things but they want to surprise and not talk about them still.
- April or Splinter playable? --> No comment (laughs)
I'm encouraged to hear this team contains some veterans of TMNT GBA.
CyberCubed
03-11-2021, 04:59 PM
No word on any voice acting yet? It's not a deal breaker since none of the old games had the voices, but it would be cool if they can work with Nick and get the 80's actors to reprise their roles. Even if I guess it'd just be for a few short lines or catch phrases through the game.
Hopefully the game has at least 8-10 levels, I don't want it to be too short.
oldmanwinters
03-11-2021, 05:00 PM
No word on any voice acting yet? It's not a deal breaker since none of the old games had the voices, but it would be cool if they can work with Nick and get the 80's actors to reprise their roles. Even if I guess it'd just be for a few short lines or catch phrases through the game.
Hopefully the game has at least 8-10 levels, I don't want it to be too short.
If I had been able to log into the conversation at the start, I definitely would have asked about that!
CyberCubed
03-11-2021, 05:57 PM
Maybe they don't know themselves yet, usually voice acting in a game like this is one of the last things they add to it.
oldmanwinters
03-11-2021, 06:01 PM
Maybe they don't know themselves yet, usually voice acting in a game like this is one of the last things they add to it.
I expect voice recording would probably be handled by Nickelodeon's side, since they would probably get the actors to come into their California studio to record, as seems to be the case.
Tuxedo Moroboshi
03-11-2021, 07:03 PM
- Both teams wanted to work on the 87' designs from the start and nothing else.
Hmmm, I can applaud the desire for consistency, but the old Konami games did still mix in a few things from other canons of the time. Depending on just how faithful they wanna be to the cartoon, I fear for what Slash would look like.
TigerClaw
03-11-2021, 08:27 PM
Its interesting that Rise did not get a game made for it, All the past incarnation had games.
Its interesting that Rise did not get a game made for it, All the past incarnation had games.
Where is the next Mutation game ?
AquaParade
03-11-2021, 08:47 PM
Awesome news. I loved the old Konami games like everyone else, so if they can modernize the gameplay just a bit, I’m excited.
I’d like to see something more ambitious, but maybe this can be the steppingstone to that. It’s picking up a lot of steam online already. TMNT is on somewhat of a roll if you’re paying attention to the comics, figures, and games. Lots of attention within each medium.
If we can just get a movie worthy of the franchise and true to the comic roots, the franchise would honesty be at peak performance. That’s a big ask, but I feel like it’s the only base that isn’t really covered in some way now.
Leo656
03-11-2021, 09:36 PM
Nah, if this game does well then they'd just keep cranking out more games in the exact same vein, or adding DLC content to it. For as cool as this could be, it's a pretty clear sign that they've completely given up on ever doing a "real" TMNT game in the near future. And that's disheartening.
Better than nothing, I guess.
AquaParade
03-11-2021, 10:20 PM
Nah, if this game does well then they'd just keep cranking out more games in the exact same vein, or adding DLC content to it. For as cool as this could be, it's a pretty clear sign that they've completely given up on ever doing a "real" TMNT game in the near future. And that's disheartening.
Better than nothing, I guess.
Hmm, I don't see how that is clear. Different types of games always come and go for franchises like this. Could have said the same about Spider-Man before Insomniac took the reins. Same with Batman before Arkham.
This is a cheaper way to dip their foot back in. If there is a lot of interest, they'll want to at least look at the possibility of a bigger gamble and bigger return. More of the same makes sense too, but I see no reason to count anything else out.
Prowler
03-11-2021, 10:21 PM
The best TMNT games from the 80s and 90s are still fun to this day. So if this game turns out to be as fun as games from that era then I'll have no complaints. Even if it turns out to be more like The Manhattan Project than the SNES version of Turtles in Time.
Now, a new TMNT Tournament Fighters would be really sweet!
Leo656
03-11-2021, 10:42 PM
Hmm, I don't see how that is clear. Different types of games always come and go for franchises like this. Could have said the same about Spider-Man before Insomniac took the reins. Same with Batman before Arkham.
This is a cheaper way to dip their foot back in. If there is a lot of interest, they'll want to at least look at the possibility of a bigger gamble and bigger return. More of the same makes sense too, but I see no reason to count anything else out.
TMNT isn't 1/10th as big as Batman and Spider-Man. The market won't support more than one TMNT game at a time and no developer is going to allocate the resources to more than one game at a time, either.
The last "real" TMNT game came out over 5 years ago, and we haven't heard a single peep about another one since then. There's no interest. MiM was more than good enough, but people said it was crap anyway even though it wasn't, so nobody's going to bother trying to make another "real" game anytime soon. What's the point? A lot of time, money and effort went into MiM only for it to under-perform under a ton of what was honestly really bad criticism.
Shortsighted and myopic people crowed loudly for five years, "All we want or will accept is another Turtles In Time type of game, so just give us that", and the Powers-That-Be finally listened. Those types of games are much easier (and cheaper) to produce and there's very little risk involved; walk left-to-right, bash bad guys, repeat for 8 or 10 levels, and people will dogpile each other to play it.
And that's perfectly fine. But it also leaves them NO reason to even try to develop a "real" game anytime in the near future. "Out of the Shadows" and "Mutants In Manhattan" were both reasonably good games, but after all the money and work that went into producing them only for the fans to puke them back out, you can put money down that nobody else is gonna even attempt such an endeavor anytime soon.
And why would they? They can spend a fraction of the budget on something like this and they already know it's going to be a huge hit. Thus, if it makes a huge splash, that doesn't mean anything for the future of TMNT games other than "This works, let's just keep doing this."
The entire video game industry is in a "No Risk/Big Reward" mindset and has been for years now. To expect anything different is kind of silly. Especially for a "dead" brand that's only being kept alive through people's collective nostalgia for 30+ years ago.
If I'm wrong and someone does make a "real" TMNT game within the next decade, then great. But they won't. I promise you that nobody in any position of power is even discussing that as a hypothetical.
Prowler
03-11-2021, 10:52 PM
I've lost hope for a major TMNT game a long time ago.
The first ever NES TMNT game being so relentlessly difficult and having stiff jumping controls didn't really help either. That's the highest selling Turtles game to date, mind you. Not even the beloved Turtles in Time sold anywhere near it. So the main impression your average gamer who grew up in the NES days has of TMNT videogames is the first ever NES game. Let that sink in...
RaphaelinSTL
03-11-2021, 11:10 PM
Hmmm, I can applaud the desire for consistency, but the old Konami games did still mix in a few things from other canons of the time. Depending on just how faithful they wanna be to the cartoon, I fear for what Slash would look like.
I wouldn’t be worried about that ... heck, even Manhattan Project and Turtles in Time used his Archie Comics / Playmates look.
NECA used his cartoon look for their 1987 figure because they’re sticklers (and rightfully so) for accuracy.
I've lost hope for a major TMNT game a long time ago.
The first ever NES TMNT game being so relentlessly difficult and having stiff jumping controls didn't really help either. That's the highest selling Turtles game to date, mind you. Not even the beloved Turtles in Time sold anywhere near it. So the main impression your average gamer who grew up in the NES days has of TMNT videogames is the first ever NES game. Let that sink in...
We don't have any real NPD numbers from that era so I have no idea where you can safely assume that.
Prowler
03-11-2021, 11:52 PM
We don't have any real NPD numbers from that era so I have no idea where you can safely assume that.
Google highest selling NES games and NES TMNT always shows up in the top with at least 4M copies sold. I've never seen a an equivalent list for the SNES that has Turtle of Time in the the list of its highest selling games, so it can't have sold more than 1M copies at best.
Such lists have been circulating the Internet for ages now maybe they're not that accurate but I doubt it was one guy who pulled the numbers out off his ass one random day in 2004 and decided to upload it on Wikipedia with no one to date proving the data is wrong.
And is it THAT hard to believe NES TMNT sold more than Turtles in Time? NES TMNT came out in 1989. It was the first ever TMNT game that was released on a home console and right around the time where Turtlemania was starting to peak. Turtles in Time came out in 1992, which was arguably the last year where the Turtlemania phenomenon was still going strong. And it was a home console version of an already existing arcade game. So there ways of people playing it without owning a SNES. Can't say the same for the original NES game.
And the NES outsold the SNES too. It didn't have a strong competitor like SNES did with the Mega Drive. The NES mopped the floor with the Master System in Japan and the US. While SNES not only lost to the Mega Drive in Europe but also barely beat it in the US.
Seems logical to me.
Shark_Blade
03-12-2021, 01:42 AM
The trailer reached over 1 million views in 1.5 day. Amazing just for a 2D beat em up game! :tlove:
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D-ray
03-12-2021, 01:58 AM
I don't want to sound pessimistic or anything, but I don't think it will be anything special.
First of all: for the 100th, the 1987 style is still there.
I'm not entirely against the style, but damnit. People seem to know the
turtles only in this way. The problem is always the same: you'll get nostalgics to your side, but make an even bigger gap between the turtles and the newest generations.
Second thing: the gameplay looks damn monotonous.
Ok it's stupid to judge a game by it's trailer, but it looks alot like a BeatEmUp just like Turtle's in Time. I would be fine with that, if that kind of gameplay isn't extremely outdated now.
I don't know why, but turtle fans seem to ONLY like that kind of gameplay, old ones atleast.
Again, it will attract old players, but create problems with newer ones.
Third thing: the pixel art (god).
Probably the worst thing of all, the pixel art, damnit.
I was kind of ok when the "pixel art" trend went viral in 2014/2015, but we are going too far. The pixel art now has NO IDENTITY, which means that just because it's on pixel art, this game will look like the others, lowering sells even more.
Is a really poor and cheap try to give the turtles a new game, but...
you know... at least is something right?
Also, is on PC, which means I can easily try it.
The only good thing I hope, is that the game will support online multiplayer and it will NOT be the exact same gameplay of Turtle's in Time or the other Arcade TMNT games.
Its interesting that Rise did not get a game made for it, All the past incarnation had games.It did get a couple mobile games and online games if you count them.
Where is the next Mutation game ?
It's on a Tiger handheld.
Mexiun
03-12-2021, 03:58 AM
Now i would also love if it this kickstarted something like a fighting game, similair to that one Power Rangers game that released in 2018 (i think).
Not a huge budget, not much single player, but still a great game for online and keeps getting updates/DLC.
Sumac
03-12-2021, 04:18 AM
First of all: for the 100th, the 1987 style is still there.
I'm not entirely against the style, but damnit. People seem to know the
turtles only in this way. The problem is always the same: you'll get nostalgics to your side, but make an even bigger gap between the turtles and the newest generations.
Maybe fact that pretty much all other TMNT versions ended up being niche or failures or niche failures has something to do with it?
It is not people's fault nor developers. No-one (without limitless amount of money) gonna make a game based on TMNT version most people don't know or don't care about.
Third thing: the pixel art (god).
Probably the worst thing of all, the pixel art, damnit.
I was kind of ok when the "pixel art" trend went viral in 2014/2015, but we are going too far. The pixel art now has NO IDENTITY, which means that just because it's on pixel art, this game will look like the others, lowering sells even more.
Sorry, but this bunch of dumb ********.
Pixel art can have an identity, depending on developer. And I take (good) pixel art over 3D any day. It is modern 3D styles which barely has an identity nowadays.
Is a really poor and cheap try to give the turtles a new game, but...
you know... at least is something right?
Also, is on PC, which means I can easily try it.
"Cheap and poor?"
Mates, we have a guy who played this game already it seems!! :lol:
Nah, if this game does well then they'd just keep cranking out more games in the exact same vein, or adding DLC content to it. For as cool as this could be, it's a pretty clear sign that they've completely given up on ever doing a "real" TMNT game in the near future. And that's disheartening.
Better than nothing, I guess.
Little games can be as "real" as the big ones.
It's on a Tiger handheld.
How fitting...:lol:
CyberCubed
03-12-2021, 09:28 AM
Yeah I wonder if people here are "new" to videogames or something. Smaller type of 2D games and indie games have been the norm for the industry since the PS3/360 days. Most of the best reviewed games each generation are 2D sidescrolling games every gen.
Streets of Rage 4, River City Girls, etc. just came out the last year and got critical acclaim and this is in the same vain.
Diorm
03-12-2021, 09:29 AM
Summary from a Discord user who listened to the conversation:
- It's not easy for a small French indie team to get these licenses, but making more and more games made it easier.
Editor Dotemu is from France. The studio Tribute Games is from Québec. Wich I am from. So I'm very happy that our guys are making this ^^
Google highest selling NES games and NES TMNT always shows up in the top with at least 4M copies sold. I've never seen a an equivalent list for the SNES that has Turtle of Time in the the list of its highest selling games, so it can't have sold more than 1M copies at best.
Such lists have been circulating the Internet for ages now maybe they're not that accurate but I doubt it was one guy who pulled the numbers out off his ass one random day in 2004 and decided to upload it on Wikipedia with no one to date proving the data is wrong.
And is it THAT hard to believe NES TMNT sold more than Turtles in Time? NES TMNT came out in 1989. It was the first ever TMNT game that was released on a home console and right around the time where Turtlemania was starting to peak. Turtles in Time came out in 1992, which was arguably the last year where the Turtlemania phenomenon was still going strong. And it was a home console version of an already existing arcade game. So there ways of people playing it without owning a SNES. Can't say the same for the original NES game.
And the NES outsold the SNES too. It didn't have a strong competitor like SNES did with the Mega Drive. The NES mopped the floor with the Master System in Japan and the US. While SNES not only lost to the Mega Drive in Europe but also barely beat it in the US.
Seems logical to me.
Speculation, many of those numbers come from sites that have nothing to back it up and they use them as sources from wikipedia, We only have NPD numbers starting in the 2000's, anything before that is just based on what other people said on interviews or pure speculation which is not reliable.
Turtle mania was dying by the time turtles in time came out but counting how many people played it and how many copies are out there it's safe to say it sold plenty. I never really saw TMNT 1 on the NES as a kid, none of my friends had it but they all had TMNT 2 the arcade game. That's hardly evidence but TMNT 2 came out in 1990 at the height of turtlemania so it's easy to believe that it sold far better than TMNT 1 on the NES. Again it's all speculation I wouldn't be surprised if TMNT 2 or TMNT 4 were the highest selling games. Either could be wrong, clearly there's no "definitive" answer though.
It did get a couple mobile games and online games if you count them.
It's on a Tiger handheld.
oh damn, Rise of the TMNT just got pwned
http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/qXdti0GqZrY/mqdefault.jpg
oldmanwinters
03-12-2021, 10:34 AM
It did get a couple mobile games and online games if you count them.
It's on a Tiger handheld.
oh damn, Rise of the TMNT just got pwned
http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/qXdti0GqZrY/mqdefault.jpg
There are rumors (https://turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Ninja_Turtles:_The_Next_Mutation_(video_game)) that a Next Mutation game was in development for the original Playstation, but I've never found any hard evidence of that, other than maybe an uncredited sentence in an old game magazine.
Zulithe
03-12-2021, 10:50 AM
Over 1.1m Views now!
RaphaelinSTL
03-12-2021, 11:16 AM
Yeah I wonder if people here are "new" to videogames or something. Smaller type of 2D games and indie games have been the norm for the industry since the PS3/360 days. Most of the best reviewed games each generation are 2D sidescrolling games every gen.
Streets of Rage 4, River City Girls, etc. just came out the last year and got critical acclaim and this is in the same vain.
I'm wondering the same thing. I mean look at a game like Hades too.
Just because it's not someone's stylistic choice doesn't mean it's any more or less of a game. More and more of critically acclaimed and crowd pleasing titles over the last few years have been 2D/smaller games.
Not everything needs to have a Cyberpunk 2077 style ambition ... could usually that results in a game like Cyberpunk 2077.
Kind of reminds me of people who say "there's no good music these days!" and only listen to the radio. :lol:
Leo656
03-12-2021, 11:21 AM
Little games can be as "real" as the big ones.
I think the fact that the bar is now set exactly as high as it was set in 1992 is a little bit troubling, or should be.
It's like a 35-year old grown man going to the gym and being impressed with himself that he lifts exactly the same amount of weight as he did as a high school Freshman. "We've made Zero Progress in all that time" should never be something to be overly proud of.
And for me, I can't help but think about how it wasn't all that long ago that a lot of people were like, "Man, I'd love a TMNT game that ripped off the Arkham games, or even Injustice!" And no, those things weren't realistic to hope for, but at least there were aspirations. And in the unlikely event they ever came to pass, they would have indeed been incredible.
It amazes me how fast everyone just "gave up", did a 180 and now it's like "Yeah nah nevermind this 1992 stuff is fine, that's all I need." Again, people can try and spin it however they like, it's an admission of defeat.
"It doesn't get any better than THIS!" No, really... it DOESN'T. :ohwell:
oldmanwinters
03-12-2021, 11:46 AM
And for me, I can't help but think about how it wasn't all that long ago that a lot of people were like, "Man, I'd love a TMNT game that ripped off the Arkham games, or even Injustice!" And no, those things weren't realistic to hope for, but at least there were aspirations. And in the unlikely event they ever came to pass, they would have indeed been incredible.
I remember that's how the people behind "Out of the Shadows" (the born-digital video game... not the Bay-verse movie) promoted their creation. Obviously, it fell well short of that Rocksteady standard.
Leo656
03-12-2021, 11:51 AM
Yeah, that was plain and simply a lie. :lol:
I think that game is pretty decent, obviously far short of Arkham but to be fair most things are. They never should have used THAT as the benchmark for a straight-to-download budget title. I can't help but wonder if it would have been better-received, even just a little, if they hadn't lied and set everyone's expectations way too high.
oldmanwinters
03-12-2021, 04:53 PM
For those of you who assume the game will be loaded with playable characters on Day 1, this comment from a member of the TributeGames Dev team on the official Discord might disappoint you:
As for playable characters, it's the four turtles. We get that people want more, but we've done a LOT of work giving each turtle their own animations rather than palette swapping one turtle sprite with different weapons. Their different run cycles from the trailer is just one part of how they vary. . . .
As for different skins, it's not my department, but not it's not planned at the moment. We're still working on the big stuff!
RaphaelinSTL
03-12-2021, 05:00 PM
I mean all signs point to this being a 2022 release, right? Just based on their previous reveal trailer to actual release date timeframes?
Andrew NDB
03-12-2021, 05:05 PM
I mean all signs point to this being a 2022 release, right? Just based on their previous reveal trailer to actual release date timeframes?
They're not building a new Unreal engine. It'll be out in a couple of months probably.
oldmanwinters
03-12-2021, 05:08 PM
I mean all signs point to this being a 2022 release, right? Just based on their previous reveal trailer to actual release date timeframes?
They're not building a new Unreal engine. It'll be out in a couple of months probably.
I expect Andrew is right. During the TwitterSpaces conversation with some of the publishing team, they said that the gameplay footage used for the trailer was "Alpha-build" and that the development team is considerably further along at present. I can't imagine this game having to forgo Halloween, let alone New Year's Eve.
Mexiun
03-12-2021, 05:53 PM
For those of you who assume the game will be loaded with playable characters on Day 1, this comment from a member of the TributeGames Dev team on the official Discord might disappoint you:
As for playable characters, it's the four turtles. We get that people want more, but we've done a LOT of work giving each turtle their own animations rather than palette swapping one turtle sprite with different weapons. Their different run cycles from the trailer is just one part of how they vary. . . .
As for different skins, it's not my department, but not it's not planned at the moment. We're still working on the big stuff!
As sad as it is its also understandable, doesn't make my hype any less either.
Also didn't expect any other playable characters anyway, it was just a hope.
Can't wait to see the differences between the Turtles.
Anarchistguy
03-12-2021, 06:17 PM
I don't want to sound pessimistic or anything, but I don't think it will be anything special.
First of all: for the 100th, the 1987 style is still there.
I'm not entirely against the style, but damnit. People seem to know the
turtles only in this way. The problem is always the same: you'll get nostalgics to your side, but make an even bigger gap between the turtles and the newest generations.
I don't understand why you're so pissed. From the get go Nickolodeon said they'd focus on 1987 TMNT The most
Zulithe
03-12-2021, 06:59 PM
I just think it's easier to make a TMNT game that appeals to the widest possible audience when using the 87 styles. If they instead went with Rise, they'd be turning a lot of fans off -- sorry but that's just how it is. The show didn't hit with a lot of people.
Younger audience can still understand who all the characters are and enjoy the gameplay. So I don't think it's a problem.
darthsmozers
03-12-2021, 07:04 PM
Wow, 7 pages of comments and there is so much negativity. :tsad:
Me? I smiled the whole way through that awesome intro, and am looking for a little shameless nostalgic fun with the beat’em up. :tgrin:
Anarchistguy
03-12-2021, 07:39 PM
Pretty damn ironic that the most pessimistic people about this game are the TMNT fans
Turo602
03-12-2021, 08:03 PM
I'm f*cking excited about this. Beat 'em ups are having a resurgence with games like Streets of Rage 4 and Scott Pilgrim and this looks like it has the potential to be just as great. We don't get enough cool Ninja Turtles sh*t often enough that I consider this a win.
CyberCubed
03-12-2021, 08:05 PM
I just think it's easier to make a TMNT game that appeals to the widest possible audience when using the 87 styles. If they instead went with Rise, they'd be turning a lot of fans off -- sorry but that's just how it is. The show didn't hit with a lot of people.
Younger audience can still understand who all the characters are and enjoy the gameplay. So I don't think it's a problem.
Case in point we've had games based on 2k3 and Nick 2012 and none of them sold all that well.
The GBA TMNT games are all excellent, much better than the console versions and they're overlooked.
Shredder's revenge is such a lame title.
April's design looks downgraded but might just be the art style.
I hope each level isn't too themed to an "episode" as they said in the show. I want this to feel like an epic adventure the arcade games felt not play through "episodes" of the show.
The GBA TMNT games are all excellent, much better than the console versions and they're overlooked.
People forget that Konami made more 2D TMNT games, for 2k3 and they only remember the console games but even back then they were well reviewed. The first two games feel rather different from each other and from the 90s games, the DS game from Konami was still a 2D beat em up in the same style.
Ubisoft's TMNT 2007 for GBA is so awesome, I would've loved a sequel and sadly the DS got a generic 3D game instead.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FQ9Bm0q9Spk/hqdefault.jpg
Prowler
03-12-2021, 09:38 PM
I played a bit of the GBA version of the first two 2k3 TMNT games. The first one was fine. Battle Nexus was OK too, but I didn't like how in several levels you start without your weapons and have to go find them.
Leo656
03-12-2021, 10:00 PM
Pretty damn ironic that the most pessimistic people about this game are the TMNT fans
Who's pessimistic about the game itself?
Most of the "negativity" has nothing to do with the game itself. It's that some people want FW to once again be the face of the brand on the back end of the game coming out, and lots of us absolutely Do Not Want that even if we're fine with or excited about the game itself for what it is.
I'm looking forward to the game as its own thing. But otherwise I'm over and done with FW TMNT and I don't want it to once again be "the dominant force" of the franchise. I'm not 7 anymore.
But the game itself looks fine, looking forward to it. Pretty sure that's how most of the "pessimists" feel about the situation. A FW-based nostalgic beat-'em-up? Sure, fine, great. A full-blown "FW Revival"? 1000 times No.
Turo602
03-12-2021, 10:33 PM
A full-blown "FW Revival"? 1000 times No.
I wouldn't mind considering what we currently have. I definitely don't want the original cartoon to be the face of Ninja Turtles, but I think there's potential in revisiting that era in a modern way. That trailer alone made that old cartoon look dope as hell. It's just a shame they don't make an effort to offset the 80s nostalgia with something darker and more comic accurate which they could totally do, but just don't.
For instance, if they had a live action show for Paramount Plus similar in tone and style to the original film that was getting massive buzz like Daredevil did and Cobra Kai, then stuff celebrating the 80s cartoon from time to time would be a lot easier to appreciate. But at the same time, when the last batch of Turtles stuff we've gotten was BayTurtles and Rise, I'll gladly take this.
Leo656
03-12-2021, 10:38 PM
That's like asking me to choose between sitting on my own balls or slicing my taint with the Bic while I'm manscaping.
In a perfect world, I'd have more, better options to choose from.
Turo602
03-12-2021, 10:54 PM
That's like asking me to choose between sitting on my own balls or slicing my taint with the Bic while I'm manscaping.
In a perfect world, I'd have more, better options to choose from.
That's more like if you were choosing between Rise and BayTurtles, unless hey, maybe you enjoy sitting on your balls. To each their own I guess. :trazz:
Leo656
03-12-2021, 11:41 PM
I do not. :lol:
And no, choosing between "Rise" and BayTurtles would be like choosing between slicing the little flap of skin that connects my bottom lip to my gums with a surgical scalpel, or cutting open my scrotum and sawing one of my testicles in half while it was still attached to my body.
Just to be PERFECTLY clear. :lol:
Mexiun
03-13-2021, 04:52 AM
I hope each level isn't too themed to an "episode" as they said in the show. I want this to feel like an epic adventure the arcade games felt not play through "episodes" of the show.
I don't think they meant that every stage is themed to a TMNT episode, i think they meant that each stage will feel like you're playing through an 80's cartoon episode (such as level design, the things happening in the background that will tell the story without it literally being told).
Such as what we have seen where Bebop is flirting with Tifanny and then foot soldiers being on the PC in the background, there's a lot of "story" happening in the background to make it an "episode".
You still play the game as an Arcade game with its own unique story that is connected to each stage, the stages aren't a seperate thing.
Andrew NDB
03-13-2021, 04:57 AM
Such as what we have seen where Bebop is flirting with Tifanny and then foot soldiers being on the PC in the background, there's a lot of "story" happening in the background to make it an "episode".
So... 2% "story," and 98% smashing/looking at all the pretty rainbow color-coded Foot Soldiers over and over again. Great. Can't wait.
First of all, if you have the infrastructure and tech to create actual thousands of sophisticated AI Foot Soldiers that the best minds at MIT can't do (and imagine the raw material needed)... you could already be the richest man on Earth many times over. Why send these against four Turtles? Also, why color code them? For whose benefit?
Anarchistguy
03-13-2021, 05:10 AM
Who's pessimistic about the game itself?
Most of the "negativity" has nothing to do with the game itself. It's that some people want FW to once again the the face of the brand on the back end of the game coming out, and lots of us absolutely Do Not Want that even if we're fine with or excited about the game itself for what it is.
I'm looking forward to the game as its own thing. But otherwise I'm over and done with FW TMNT and I don't want it to once again be "the dominant force" of the franchise. I'm not 7 anymore.
But the game itself looks fine, looking forward to it. Pretty sure that's how most of the "pessimists" feel about the situation. A FW-based nostalgic beat-'em-up? Sure, fine, great. A full-blown "FW Revival"? 1000 times No.
Ohhhhhhh well in that case I agree 12000%. While I have nostalgia for FW TMNT, it's one of my least favorite incarnations. Shoving that version down our throats is pretty annoying but it is extremely profitable, so I don't see it ending anytime soon..
Tuxedo Moroboshi
03-13-2021, 05:41 AM
It's like a 35-year old grown man going to the gym and being impressed with himself that he lifts exactly the same amount of weight as he did as a high school Freshman. "We've made Zero Progress in all that time" should never be something to be overly proud of.
That's not entirely what's happening here, though. They've stated that they're taking the 2D side-scrolling beat 'em up formula of the old games, but now that they're free of the technical limitations of that era, they're improving upon the mechanics further and fixing what didn't work. What all that entails exactly is something we don't fully know yet, but it's too soon to say it's "zero progress".
April's design looks downgraded but might just be the art style.
For those of you who assume the game will be loaded with playable characters on Day 1, this comment from a member of the TributeGames Dev team on the official Discord might disappoint you:
As for playable characters, it's the four turtles. We get that people want more, but we've done a LOT of work giving each turtle their own animations rather than palette swapping one turtle sprite with different weapons. Their different run cycles from the trailer is just one part of how they vary. . . .
As for different skins, it's not my department, but not it's not planned at the moment. We're still working on the big stuff!
Dang, that animated intro made it seem like April and Splinter would be playable. However, it's important to note said animated intro was done by a completely different group of people than the in-game sprites (or so I believe I remember reading). Either way, you can tell there's a difference, since the art style is different for the Turtles between that intro and the sprites, and even the designs have subtle differences like the intro using merchandise black buckles on the belts while the sprites have them completely silver.
I wouldn’t be worried about that ... heck, even Manhattan Project and Turtles in Time used his Archie Comics / Playmates look.
NECA used his cartoon look for their 1987 figure because they’re sticklers (and rightfully so) for accuracy.
Well, but that was Konami that did that. There's no telling if Dotemu will do the same, and their adamant statement of sticking strictly to the 1987 cartoon is enough for me to be worried about Slash's appearance. I think the only thing that maybe alleviates some of that worry is seeing how huge they made Bebop and Rocksteady (since they really weren't all that big in the actual cartoon).
Mad Dog McMutt
03-13-2021, 10:33 PM
I think they'll start off with the most recognizable characters because this is a new game, and then if we get DLC or a sequel, we'll get more "deep cuts" so to speak.
I dream of a day where I can fight Tempestra, Shreeka, and Mad Dog McMutt in a videogame.
Finally somebody in this forum mentions Mad Dog McMutt.
CyberCubed
03-14-2021, 12:28 AM
I have 99.8% of all TMNT characters memorized in my mind, so I was bound to say everyone eventually.
SS Kakarot
03-14-2021, 09:34 AM
There's reports going around (https://twitter.com/TortuesNinja_FR/status/1371033053640986625) that the game will be released during Q3 this year for PS5, XBox (Series X, XBox One) and PC. :-?
Shark_Blade
03-14-2021, 10:56 AM
If it’s true, pity there’s no Switch version. :( PC & PS5 then.
Mexiun
03-14-2021, 12:47 PM
There's reports going around (https://twitter.com/TortuesNinja_FR/status/1371033053640986625) that the game will be released during Q3 this year for PS5, XBox (Series X, XBox One) and PC. :-?
Not even Ps4? I hope thats not true, not many people even have Ps5's yet and i want this game to sell as best as it could :ohwell:
I'll be playing it on the PC because of a friend of mine to play online anyway but still.
RaphaelinSTL
03-14-2021, 12:53 PM
If it’s true, pity there’s no Switch version. :( PC & PS5 then.
Pardon my french, but there's no ****ing way this game doesn't come out on Nintendo Switch. Streets of Rage 4 / Scott Pilgrim had a console wide release and I suspect the same for TMNT.
It could be them just being coy ... but when asked directly on Twitter about a Switch version, they tweeted out the "pc and consoles (https://twitter.com/Dotemu/status/1370080692466556928)" response. It's easier to ignore things fans don't want to hear, so I'm taking their quickness to respond with anything when asked that as positive news.
CyberCubed
03-14-2021, 01:00 PM
It's obviously going to come out on Switch and most platforms, stop jumping to conclusions, everyone.
SS Kakarot
03-14-2021, 02:09 PM
I also find it hard to believe it won't come out on Switch at some point.
Still hoping for a PS4 release myself. :tsmile:
Zulithe
03-14-2021, 04:35 PM
It will come to Switch, though it's possible it won't be one of the game's launch platforms if this report is accurate. It's a pixel art game... it can easily run on the Switch, maybe they just don't have the people to work on so many platforms at one time.
There's also the possibility that it's not included in this 'leak' because it could be digital-only on Switch, so there would be no case artwork for it in such a case. Many games only release digitally on Switch to avoid the greater costs due to the cartridges.
Andrew NDB
03-14-2021, 05:39 PM
It's obviously going to come out on Switch and most platforms, stop jumping to conclusions, everyone.
I also find it hard to believe it won't come out on Switch at some point.
Still hoping for a PS4 release myself. :tsmile:
I'm pretty sure this game would run fine on a PS1... I'm sure it's coming out on all the modern platforms.
RaphaelinSTL
03-14-2021, 06:13 PM
There's also the possibility that it's not included in this 'leak' because it could be digital-only on Switch, so there would be no case artwork for it in such a case. Many games only release digitally on Switch to avoid the greater costs due to the cartridges.
In that case I'm sure I'll be buying it twice whenever the inevitable Limited Run Games collector's edition gets announced in the 3-4 months post-digital release.
oldmanwinters
03-14-2021, 06:30 PM
I'm pretty sure this game would run fine on a PS1... I'm sure it's coming out on all the modern platforms.
Nah, PS1/PSX would cut about every non-essential animation frame from the sprites.
I get the gist of what you are saying though. :twink:
Powder
03-14-2021, 07:23 PM
I'll get this on PC & Switch alike, to have the option to play with different friends (assuming online multiplayer is an option) & portability.
Tuxedo Moroboshi
03-14-2021, 10:02 PM
I'm pretty sure this game would run fine on a PS1... I'm sure it's coming out on all the modern platforms.
I don't think it's a question of if the console is powerful enough to run it or not. To this day, The Disney Afternoon Collection still hasn't come out on Switch despite just being a collection of NES games. Granted, that was earlier on in the Switch's life cycle, before 3rd party devs were sure of how successful the Switch was going to be, but it still never did get a release even afterward.
But, ya, it really doesn't make sense to not have this come out on PS4 and Switch, but I wouldn't be totally surprised by such a dumb decision actually happening.
Andrew NDB
03-14-2021, 11:27 PM
I don't think it's a question of if the console is powerful enough to run it or not. To this day, The Disney Afternoon Collection still hasn't come out on Switch despite just being a collection of NES games. Granted, that was earlier on in the Switch's life cycle, before 3rd party devs were sure of how successful the Switch was going to be, but it still never did get a release even afterward.
But, ya, it really doesn't make sense to not have this come out on PS4 and Switch, but I wouldn't be totally surprised by such a dumb decision actually happening.
Well, if it doesn't come out on Switch, we can be sure that's because of legal reasons or money (as in, Nintendo won't offer them what Microsoft and Sony are offering them, or their deal with Sony and/or Microsoft incentivizes them to NOT put it on Switch). But if it's coming to PS5 then of course it'll be on PS4, too. That would be the most hilarious thing ever if something like this was a "PS5 Exclusive," on the Sony side. There would be absolutely no reason for that, for obvious reasons.
Diorm
03-15-2021, 09:30 AM
In that case I'm sure I'll be buying it twice whenever the inevitable Limited Run Games collector's edition gets announced in the 3-4 months post-digital release.
I hope they don't. I wont be able to resist a special edition physical release of this game...
Then again, scalpers might be too fast for me.
oldmanwinters
03-15-2021, 10:44 AM
Well, if it doesn't come out on Switch, we can be sure that's because of legal reasons or money (as in, Nintendo won't offer them what Microsoft and Sony are offering them, or their deal with Sony and/or Microsoft incentivizes them to NOT put it on Switch). But if it's coming to PS5 then of course it'll be on PS4, too. That would be the most hilarious thing ever if something like this was a "PS5 Exclusive," on the Sony side. There would be absolutely no reason for that, for obvious reasons.
In that TwitterSpaces interview from last week, the developers stated that console ports were moreso the prerogative of the hardware companies, which I'm assuming is a vague way of saying exactly what you described.
TigerClaw
03-15-2021, 03:37 PM
This isn't the only game that's causing a resurgence of FW TMNT. There's the mobile game TMNT: Mutant Madness that is based on FW TMNT. All the playable characters are FW TMNT characters. They all have updated versions of the classic FW designs too.
lol nobody is playing Mutant Madness
oldmanwinters
03-15-2021, 03:53 PM
lol nobody is playing Mutant Madness
Every time I try, it crashes my Kindle! :tlol:
Leo656
03-15-2021, 03:58 PM
"Mobile Games." Feh.
CyberCubed
03-15-2021, 06:18 PM
Mobile phone games aren't "real" games. You have a demo of a game and you have to continually pay real money or gamble to see the rest of the game. It's absurd.
That's why "real" games will always be superior. You buy a game and it comes complete besides if you want to get any DLC for it, but the core game is finished for you to play.
TigerClaw
03-15-2021, 06:25 PM
Mobile phone games aren't "real" games. You have a demo of a game and you have to continually pay real money or gamble to see the rest of the game. It's absurd.
That's why "real" games will always be superior. You buy a game and it comes complete besides if you want to get any DLC for it, but the core game is finished for you to play.
You don't have to pay real money to play it. You can unlock that stuff. But you have to play for hours, weeks, months or a year to get all the good stuff.
My issues with the mobile games is they get repetitive after a while, and your playing the same missions over and over again just to grind.
Yeah, you're still paying but with your time, for me it's actually more expensive to grind than to buy the microtransactions. They also aren't "full" games it's more of a "waste your money to get these characters you like", they prey on completists. I hate them and yet I still get tricked to play one every once in a while.
Andrew NDB
03-16-2021, 03:10 AM
Well, nothing's worse than the Capcom model. Add a couple of fighters and a word to the title and resell the same game at full price, over and over again. Same as if it's 1993 all over again.
Leo656
03-16-2021, 03:39 AM
I think the differences between "Super Street Fighter II" and "vanilla" SFII were rather substantial, enough to warrant its existence at least. At the same time, it didn't feel quite different enough to earn that coveted "SFIII" title. But it was still a marked improvement over the original.
Having played the entire series comprehensively for the very first time last year, thanks to the handy Anniversary Collection, the nuances between all the different releases really jumped out at me.
I mean it's a very fashionable criticism of that series, and it's not altogether untrue (the common joke back then was that nobody at Capcom had ever learned to count to III and so we were stuck with all these "updates"), but they DID make some pretty substantial tweaks and improvements as the games went on. It would be harder to swallow if not for the fact that the "upgrades" did substantially improve the graphics, animation and gameplay.
It just got on people's nerves at the time because they were all like "Enough! Get to SFIII already!" And then they did, and nobody liked it as much as II anyway. Some could argue that they simply withheld it for too long; I personally think it was because they removed too many iconic and popular characters, at least initially. The truth was probably a little of both. I *think* I like the Alpha series better than the III series, but it's kinda hard to say, as I'm not particularly good at SF in general and my experience with each of them is very limited.
Regardless... as easy as it is to poke fun, the games back then did improve incrementally with each addition or "upgrade", so I really can't take much issue with that. As for nowadays... whole different conversation.
Andrew NDB
03-16-2021, 03:48 AM
I think the differences between "Super Street Fighter II" and "vanilla" SFII were rather substantial, enough to warrant its existence at least. At the same time, it didn't feel quite different enough to earn that coveted "SFIII" title. But it was still a marked improvement over the original.
Having played the entire series comprehensively for the very first time last year, thanks to the handy Anniversary Collection, the nuances between all the different releases really jumped out at me.
I mean it's a very fashionable criticism of that series, and it's not altogether untrue (the common joke back then was that nobody at Capcom had ever learned to count to III and so we were stuck with all these "updates"), but they DID make some pretty substantial tweaks and improvements as the games went on. It would be harder to swallow if not for the fact that the "upgrades" did substantially improve the graphics, animation and gameplay.
It just got on people's nerves at the time because they were all like "Enough! Get to SFIII already!" And then they did, and nobody liked it as much as II anyway. Some could argue that they simply withheld it for too long; I personally think it was because they removed too many iconic and popular characters, at least initially. The truth was probably a little of both. I *think* I like the Alpha series better than the III series, but it's kinda hard to say, as I'm not particularly good at SF in general and my experience with each of them is very limited.
Regardless... as easy as it is to poke fun, the games back then did improve incrementally with each addition or "upgrade", so I really can't take much issue with that. As for nowadays... whole different conversation.
Yeah, it was fine in the 90s. Mostly. But in an era when DLC and all that is the norm... they're still doing it? In the 2000s, 2010s and now? Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
Leo656
03-16-2021, 03:53 AM
I would definitely expect that in the Here and Now most of those upgrades would indeed be DLC, yes.
I've yet to play SFV anyway, though. The most recently-released one I played was... Ultra SFIV, I think? Can't remember if it was Super or Ultra. One'a them!
The one I've played most recently was the SFII HD Remix that came out some years back, which I'd completely forgotten to download until recently. Pretty spiffy!
Andrew NDB
03-16-2021, 04:02 AM
The one I've played most recently was the SFII HD Remix that came out some years back, which I'd completely forgotten to download until recently. Pretty spiffy!
I did get that... way back on PS3, I think.
Tortuglio
03-17-2021, 10:49 PM
Summary from a Discord user who listened to the conversation:
Thank you for the summary!
I think the fact that the bar is now set exactly as high as it was set in 1992 is a little bit troubling, or should be.
I get what you are saying but i don't agree completely. Although is true that beat-em-ups aren't the most cretive type of games, i think we've come a long way since "Renegade" or "Final fight". They CAN evolve into other stuff, mixing them with other genres or adding new mechanics like multiple paths, improving in controls, etc. Will this be the case? Well, will have to wait and see. Whatever it is, i just hope it is a great fun game, even if it means then sticking to that because it sells.
Which brings me to what i DO agree with, i would like seeing other genres and tackling the Mirage verse for once. But sadly, i guess it's going to take even longer for that ever happening.
oldmanwinters
04-13-2021, 07:09 PM
Just over one month removed from the reveal of the game and not a single new reveal or "leak" of gameplay footage or concept art. I find that strange.
RaphaelinSTL
04-13-2021, 07:15 PM
I’m still thinking we got a year before the actual release date. The Streets of Rage 4 DLC has been their focus as of late. Guess we’ll see.
I am sad to say this but I feel this game is going to become boring after a one time playthrough. By the look of the graphics and by what we have seen, I feel that this game will be going to the clearance bin quickly. What I would like to see in a TMNT game is the mirage comics black and white motif with the cell shaded characters. Let us play through the 80s comic storyline first. Then, let us venture through to some IDW comic storyline too. The game will progress from black and white to color and the characters would evolve according to the art style in the comics. It may be just me but THAT will be a game worth buying!:tgrin::tcool:
Andrew NDB
04-13-2021, 11:41 PM
I am sad to say this but I feel this game is going to become boring after a one time playthrough.
Kind of like all of the other TMNT Final Fight clones.
Leo656
04-14-2021, 03:26 AM
Kind of like all of the other TMNT Final Fight clones.
Nah. They're the perfect length for what they are to be infinitely replayable. Especially co-op. One of the best things about those old beat-'em-ups is that they don't stick around long enough to wear out their welcome. Hour and change, and you're on to the next thing.
It's like, I always have a half hour to burn through TMNT Arcade or Turtles In Time if I feel like it. Something like "Elder Scrolls: Oblivion" is a hundred thousand times "bigger" and "better" as a game in every way, but I have a very strong feeling that once I'm done with it I'm gonna be "Done" with it. That's the downside of THAT kind of game.
I think someone just plain doesn't care for beat-'em-ups. :trazz:
oldmanwinters
04-14-2021, 08:49 AM
Nah. They're the perfect length for what they are to be infinitely replayable. Especially co-op. One of the best things about those old beat-'em-ups is that they don't stick around long enough to wear out their welcome. Hour and change, and you're on to the next thing.
It's like, I always have a half hour to burn through TMNT Arcade or Turtles In Time if I feel like it. Something like "Elder Scrolls: Oblivion" is a hundred thousand times "bigger" and "better" as a game in every way, but I have a very strong feeling that once I'm done with it I'm gonna be "Done" with it. That's the downside of THAT kind of game.
I think someone just plain doesn't care for beat-'em-ups. :trazz:
Good beat 'em ups are almost therapeutic. I'm sure they've helped to keep me from every seeing a real therapist. J/K :tlol:
RaphaelinSTL
04-14-2021, 11:15 AM
OH ****.
I was wrong, TMNT: Shredder's Revenge was on today's IndieWorld Showcase from Nintendo and they announced it'll be released later this year.
Showed gameplay too, but I've been in a work meeting - haha.
https://twitter.com/Dotemu/status/1382367206420406277
Nintendo Switch confirmed!
oldmanwinters
04-14-2021, 11:45 AM
OH ****.
I was wrong, TMNT: Shredder's Revenge was on today's IndieWorld Showcase from Nintendo and they announced it'll be released later this year.
Showed gameplay too, but I've been in a work meeting - haha.
https://twitter.com/Dotemu/status/1382367206420406277
Nintendo Switch confirmed!
Glad they must have read my post last night and busted out some new promos!
RaphaelinSTL
04-14-2021, 11:51 AM
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge-switch/
Official Nintendo game page!
oldmanwinters
04-14-2021, 12:08 PM
Vernon!
http://i.imgur.com/G7OKezIl.jpg (https://imgur.com/G7OKezI)
Found this on a Facebook post:
https://www.facebook.com/NinjaTurtlePowerHour/posts/236464034897828
Looks like Bebop is taking over all of Channel Six's programming, haha!
http://i.imgur.com/3sgC6oEl.jpg (https://imgur.com/3sgC6oE)
Chaotix12345
04-14-2021, 12:22 PM
Also Roadkill Rodneys confirmed via the extended gameplay in the Indie Showcase.
It was basically a no-brainer, but really happy to have this confirmed for the Switch. Already have it wishlisted and am eagerly awaiting more.
Tuxedo Moroboshi
04-14-2021, 12:31 PM
For anyone that wants to watch JUST the new trailer, but in better quality than Twitter.
GemOAwU-9fo
Sumac
04-14-2021, 01:10 PM
Kind of like all of the other TMNT Final Fight clones.
Not really - none of TMNT beat'em ups are really that long and boring, like Final Fight and more complex / realistic beat'em ups.
Bebop being boss of Channel 6 is amusing.
Channel Hog?
RaphaelinSTL
04-14-2021, 01:45 PM
I finally had the chance to play through Streets of Rage 4 over the past week and a half and I've fallen in love with it. I was getting pumped on this game and it really sent me over the moon knowing the team behind that is also behind Shredder's Revenge.
Also, it looks like Tee Lopes will be doing the OST for the game and his score for Sonic Mania was awesome. Hopefully that means a vinyl release of the eventual score at some point too.
If I had to guess, I'm thinking it'll be later in the year (I was totally wrong assuming it'd be a 2022 release) ... but I'm REALLY hoping this bad boy comes out during the summer.
Can't wait! It's a good time for retro gamers and TMNT fans for sure.
CyberCubed
04-14-2021, 01:53 PM
Unless Breath of the Wild 2 makes it out this year, this is probably going to be GOTY. I mean there's not much competition this year besides Resident Evil 8.
oldmanwinters
04-14-2021, 02:14 PM
Unless Breath of the Wild 2 makes it out this year, this is probably going to be GOTY. I mean there's not much competition this year besides Resident Evil 8.
What, no consideration for Cyberpunk 2077? :tlol:
CyberCubed
04-14-2021, 02:33 PM
Even if that game was actually good, it still came out last year. :lol:
I'm not counting Mario 3D World since it's a port of a Wii-U game from 2013 (though Bowser's Fury is nice its only 5 hours long).
Nintendo doesn't have much this year unless Breath of the Wild 2 makes it this holiday. Pokemon Diamond and Pearl remakes look incredibly disappointing and barring any surprise announcements at E3 there's not much else they could have besides maybe a 2D Metroid. (Splatoon 3, Metroid Prime 4, Pokemon Arceus are all 2022 games).
For Sony I'm certain Horizon Zero Dawn 2 and God of War aren't making it this year. So they basically just have Ratchet and Clank and some mid-tier games. Resident Evil 8 is the only big release coming soon (again I'm not counting ports/remakes of older games like the Mass Effect trilogy). 2021 feels like an off-year for games, all Microsoft has is Halo Infinite this Fall really.
E3 is in June I'm sure lot will be revealed there that comes out this holiday and this game even if it gets good reviews won't be GOTY because it's a beat em up and not a bad movie that you play between cinematics.
Roseangelo
04-14-2021, 06:51 PM
Definitely need this. Right now.
CyberCubed
04-14-2021, 09:39 PM
Is anyone else going to call this, "TMNT 6: Shredder's Revenge?" It's pretty obvious this is intended to be canon with the classic Konami games.
TMNT NES
TMNT II: The Arcade Game
Turtles III: The Manhattan Project
TMNT IV: Turtles in Time
TMNT V: Hyperstone Heist
There's also the Gameboy Fall of the Foot Clan, TMNT II, and TMNT III Radical Rescue but back in the day all Gameboy games got separate numbering from console games.
Finally...after nearly 30 years...the classic Konami universe of TMNT games is back. This game is canon in my mind with all the old NES, SNES, Genesis and Gameboy TMNT games. The classic games were also a nice mix of the original cartoon, Archie comics, and Playmates toyline all combined into one and that's why I loved it.
Roseangelo
04-14-2021, 10:25 PM
Is anyone else going to call this, "TMNT 6: Shredder's Revenge?"
No.
TMNT V: Hyperstone Heist
Hyperstone Heist wasn't TMNT V.
Zulithe
04-15-2021, 02:48 AM
Updated first post with confirmed Switch availability and the new gameplay trailer. Exciting!
shredder orokusaki
04-15-2021, 08:08 AM
For anyone that wants to watch JUST the new trailer, but in better quality than Twitter.
GemOAwU-9fo
IT LOOKS AMAZING. I will uplaod a video from my last fight(iwill be the last boss in the game) and post it here. So evryone can see what happens to those who are against me! The turtles will not escape me this time!!! MUHAHAHAH It will be the best action game of the year!
shredder orokusaki
04-15-2021, 08:15 AM
Unless Breath of the Wild 2 makes it out this year, this is probably going to be GOTY. I mean there's not much competition this year besides Resident Evil 8.
iT WILL be the best action game of the year like all TMNT games are. But i play all action games anyway. So for rest of the year i will also play nIER remake(releases next week already preodered for pc), biomutant, re8(both also preodered on pc) days gone(pc) next sonic game, sniper ghost warrior contracts 2, Ghostwire tokyo, next call of duty shadow warrior 3, evil west, alex kid, necromunda et.c. But all these arenothing comapred to my own new game TMNT SHREDDER REVENGE where iw ill take my REVENGE as the title says. They must start making TMNT games each year!
I can't believe that TMNT 6 is coming out this year, we had to wait since 1992 for a sequel to TMNT 5.
Coola Yagami
04-15-2021, 08:05 PM
Is anyone else going to call this, "TMNT 6: Shredder's Revenge?" It's pretty obvious this is intended to be canon with the classic Konami games.
TMNT NES
TMNT II: The Arcade Game
Turtles III: The Manhattan Project
TMNT IV: Turtles in Time
TMNT V: Hyperstone Heist
There's also the Gameboy Fall of the Foot Clan, TMNT II, and TMNT III Radical Rescue but back in the day all Gameboy games got separate numbering from console games.
Finally...after nearly 30 years...the classic Konami universe of TMNT games is back. This game is canon in my mind with all the old NES, SNES, Genesis and Gameboy TMNT games. The classic games were also a nice mix of the original cartoon, Archie comics, and Playmates toyline all combined into one and that's why I loved it.
Not really no. Those old games were based on the show but also a mix of stuff like the live action movies, action figures and whatnot. This one is strictly gonna be based on the cartoon show.
Unless we start seeing weird stuff like Karai and Hun as bosses, which I doubt.
There are official blue/red/purple/orange joycons so technically people could play their fav turtle with the same color controller
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzFw4AOWgAIJl36?format=jpg&name=medium
Not really no. Those old games were based on the show but also a mix of stuff like the live action movies, action figures and whatnot. This one is strictly gonna be based on the cartoon show.
Unless we start seeing weird stuff like Karai and Hun as bosses, which I doubt.
that would be boring and I'm afraid they'll go this route
MikeandRaph87
04-16-2021, 09:27 AM
It may go the same route Mutant Madness did and give non-1987 cartoon characters a 1987 cartoon aesthetic like with Ace Duck( ignoring the blink and you miss it cameo on their television set),Renet and Savanti Romero among others.
CyberCubed
04-16-2021, 02:46 PM
Not really no. Those old games were based on the show but also a mix of stuff like the live action movies, action figures and whatnot. This one is strictly gonna be based on the cartoon show.
Unless we start seeing weird stuff like Karai and Hun as bosses, which I doubt.
Maybe they will, we don't know yet.
StealthNinjaScyther
04-16-2021, 03:02 PM
Not really no. Those old games were based on the show but also a mix of stuff like the live action movies, action figures and whatnot. This one is strictly gonna be based on the cartoon show.
Unless we start seeing weird stuff like Karai and Hun as bosses, which I doubt.
There's definitely a strong connection to the Konami games with this one. Plenty of direct callbacks with different colors of foot soldiers, flying weapon foot soldiers, and the throw into the screen move. The game even features the Turtle Tenderizer 4X4, an unreleased vehicle that was featured in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: The Manhattan Project.
I don't expect to see too much stuff far removed from the OT but I wouldn't discount characters like Karai, who did appear in a couple of classic Konami games.
TigerClaw
04-16-2021, 06:01 PM
Not really no. Those old games were based on the show but also a mix of stuff like the live action movies, action figures and whatnot. This one is strictly gonna be based on the cartoon show.
Unless we start seeing weird stuff like Karai and Hun as bosses, which I doubt.
I wouldn't be surprise if they added the stuff from the movies also. If they wanna hit you with the nostalgia, We would have to see bosses like Tokka and Rahzar as well.
AquaParade
04-16-2021, 06:56 PM
I wouldn't be surprise if they added the stuff from the movies also. If they wanna hit you with the nostalgia, We would have to see bosses like Tokka and Rahzar as well.
Music reminds me a tad of Tournament Fighters.
CyberCubed
04-16-2021, 07:13 PM
Most likely the bosses will be a mix of the classic games:
Shredder
Krang
Bebop
Rocksteady
Baxter
Leatherhead
Rat King
Rahzar/Tokka
Metalhead
Slash
Giant Mousers
General Traag
If they want to throw in some curveballs I'd love to see Tempestra, Lord Dregg, Chrome Dome, Armaggon, etc.
TigerClaw
04-16-2021, 07:16 PM
Most likely the bosses will be a mix of the classic games:
Shredder
Krang
Bebop
Rocksteady
Baxter
Leatherhead
Rat King
Rahzar/Tokka
Metalhead
Slash
Giant Mousers
General Traag
If they want to throw in some curveballs I'd love to see Tempestra, Lord Dregg, Chrome Dome, Armaggon, etc.
I would love to see some of the newer characters done in the classic style to.
Wingnut82
04-18-2021, 02:55 PM
Would love to see a physical release on the Switch!:toops:
Would love to see a physical release on the Switch!:toops:
probably a safe bet that it'll get a physical release on all consoles through LRG
CyberCubed
04-19-2021, 12:49 PM
The game will probably be $24.99 if Streets of Rage 4 was any indication. A little steep for this kind of game and I'd prefer $19.99, but this is one of the few games I'd buy for full price anyway.
D-ray
04-20-2021, 02:47 AM
Maybe fact that pretty much all other TMNT versions ended up being niche or failures or niche failures has something to do with it?
It is not people's fault nor developers. No-one (without limitless amount of money) gonna make a game based on TMNT version most people don't know or don't care about.
I'm not saying that it necessarily needs a 2003, 2013 or 2018 style to it, but NOT the 1987 one. It's old, NOBODY these days care about what happened 30 years ago, and as I said, it will only attract long time fans of the Fred Wolf version, who are more than 25 years old, and don't have either time or interest in playing that much time with a videogame. Maybe a new unique style for the game, like it happened for Mutants in Manhattan (even tho it still had Fredwolf's characters in it).
Sorry, but this bunch of dumb ********.
Pixel art can have an identity, depending on developer. And I take (good) pixel art over 3D any day. It is modern 3D styles which barely has an identity nowadays.
Can't deny it, pixel art can effectively have an identity. But the problem is still there: alot of people use it. Is not new, that's all, it looks like is trying in a very struggle like way to get attention.
"Cheap and poor?"
Mates, we have a guy who played this game already it seems!!
So what? Wanna fight?! I played the pre-alpha beta, GAMMA, because I stole the source code with my spying and hacking abilities! I can say it sucks from the beginning!
Jokes apart, my comment was about the design I've seen so far, since I clearly wrote that I can't judge it in on the gameplay. But again, Turtles games never actually made me say "OH MY GOD THAT'S AN INTERESTING GAMEPLAY", so may I have a little bit of judgement?
The only thing I like, are the expressiveness of the characters, that's it.
Sumac
04-20-2021, 09:26 AM
I'm not saying that it necessarily needs a 2003, 2013 or 2018 style to it, but NOT the 1987 one. It's old, NOBODY these days care about what happened 30 years ago, and as I said, it will only attract long time fans of the Fred Wolf version, who are more than 25 years old, and don't have either time or interest in playing that much time with a videogame. Maybe a new unique style for the game, like it happened for Mutants in Manhattan (even tho it still had Fredwolf's characters in it).
Yet, most people at least aware of this version existence, which is more than can be said about TMNT'03 and most others.
Can't deny it, pixel art can effectively have an identity. But the problem is still there: alot of people use it. Is not new, that's all, it looks like is trying in a very struggle like way to get attention.
Do you know that making sprites is much more complicated than making a 3D models?
But, of course, developers, choose more time consuming and harder process, just to attract attention. No biggie!
Mate, sometimes its better to stay silent, than saying something.
Also, pixel 2D games are very tiny niche, when it comes to the gamescape in general. So saying it is somehow "not original" is strange sentiment. Also, it was never "new", since this is what all games were since they middle of the 80s.
Jokes apart, my comment was about the design I've seen so far, since I clearly wrote that I can't judge it in on the gameplay. But again, Turtles games never actually made me say "OH MY GOD THAT'S AN INTERESTING GAMEPLAY", so may I have a little bit of judgement?
The only thing I like, are the expressiveness of the characters, that's it.
Design of what exactly?
Because, sprites look very good and colorful with rather fluid animation.
I am not really sure what is "cheap and poor", unless you think all 2D games should be like Street Fighter 3 or The King of Fighters 13.
Rabbit Kraken Zeo
04-20-2021, 01:24 PM
Saw the trailer, looks cool. Too bad i don't have a switch though but sort of resembles re-shelled or at least gives me that vibe anyway. Looks kind of cool. I'd get it if I had a switch for sure. Y'all gonna have fun with that one!
Last Ronin
04-20-2021, 11:05 PM
Has it been said that it's coming out for the Switch?
RaphaelinSTL
04-20-2021, 11:43 PM
Has it been said that it's coming out for the Switch?
Yes it has.
CyberCubed
04-21-2021, 07:41 AM
Saw the trailer, looks cool. Too bad i don't have a switch though but sort of resembles re-shelled or at least gives me that vibe anyway. Looks kind of cool. I'd get it if I had a switch for sure. Y'all gonna have fun with that one!
It's coming out on every console and PC. You don't need a Switch.
They just cancelled the other versions cubed, it's now a Switch exclusive. That's why people are upset on twitter.
oldmanwinters
04-21-2021, 02:44 PM
They just cancelled the other versions cubed, it's now a Switch exclusive. That's why people are upset on twitter.
2-year exclusive though. I expect we'll see a "Definitive Edition" when it finally comes to multi-platform, right around the time that sequel is due out. :tlol:
EDIT:
I think this is a new interview with the Dev. team:
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/tmnt-shredders-revenge-developer-interview/
Coola Yagami
04-21-2021, 03:50 PM
they just cancelled the other versions cubed, it's now a switch exclusive. That's why people are upset on twitter.
hey hey, whoa what?????? Are you serious???
Leo656
04-21-2021, 03:56 PM
That's awesome, if true. :lol:
I can't help it, after all the overblown "I NEED THIS RIGHT NOW!11!" hysteria, the fact that most of those same people spunking their pants over this game won't even be able to play it without first spending $300 on a console they otherwise don't care about is so delicious it absolutely must be fattening. Take THAT, FW Zombies! :trazz::trazz::trazz:
...BUT, let the record also show that I am indeed a rotten human being. :tgrin:
oldmanwinters
04-21-2021, 09:45 PM
They just cancelled the other versions cubed, it's now a Switch exclusive. That's why people are upset on twitter.
hey hey, whoa what?????? Are you serious???
That's awesome, if true. :lol:
I can't help it, after all the overblown "I NEED THIS RIGHT NOW!11!" hysteria, the fact that most of those same people spunking their pants over this game won't even be able to play it without first spending $300 on a console they otherwise don't care about is so delicious it absolutely must be fattening. Take THAT, FW Zombies! :trazz::trazz::trazz:
...BUT, let the record also show that I am indeed a rotten human being. :tgrin:
sdp is pulling y'all's legs. I just doubled-down for the humor value of it all.
Ninjinister
04-22-2021, 04:32 AM
EDIT:
I think this is a new interview with the Dev. team:
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/tmnt-shredders-revenge-developer-interview/
I like the realization of "wait, we're both pitching to work on this? What if... we just did it together!?"
Leo656
04-22-2021, 05:35 AM
sdp is pulling y'all's legs. I just doubled-down for the humor value of it all.
Yeah, I didn't think so. That would be the absolute most boneheaded play any developer could make. Switch has its own niche but nobody who wants to actually turn a profit would ever make a downloadable game exclusive to just that system. Especially since most of the Switch's audience is made up of people too young to know or care about FW TMNT, or TMNT in general quite frankly.
Still, I'd laugh my ass off from the schadenfreude of it all. :lol:
Coola Yagami
04-23-2021, 06:28 AM
Yeah, I didn't think so. That would be the absolute most boneheaded play any developer could make. Switch has its own niche but nobody who wants to actually turn a profit would ever make a downloadable game exclusive to just that system. Especially since most of the Switch's audience is made up of people too young to know or care about FW TMNT, or TMNT in general quite frankly.
Still, I'd laugh my ass off from the schadenfreude of it all. :lol:
I assure you I WILL NOT BE LAUGHING, sir.
shredder orokusaki
04-24-2021, 03:39 PM
one of my friends who is 30 years old has 4 brothers and 2 sisters and the youngest of them is 16 years old told me 2 weeks ago that he putt the 16 years old to start watching the 1987 series. He has watched the 2012 series and he liked it and so he decided to also show him the 1987 seires. I will meet him tomorow and maybe he will tell me if his little brother likes the 1987 series as much as the 2012 or not. Also yesterday i met with another of my friends who is 34 years old and he watched the 1987 series when he was a kid but because he has not watcfhed all episodes he decided after so many years to watch the whole series from the begining and he will start from today watching it. He said that while graphics wwre not good evrything else was amazing about it. However yes it is true that most kids nowdays have not watched the 1987 series yet. Those who do is either because their parents told them to see it on their computers or because some of them decided to see it because they liked the 2012 or 2003 series.
CyberCubed
04-25-2021, 10:51 AM
I mention before, it would be cool if they can get the old VA's to reprise their roles in this since it's also through an agreement with Nickelodeon. They never had the cartoon VA's in the games before but it would be nice fanservice if they can do it.
Seeing Raphael actually with Rob Paulsen's voice or Cam Clarke voicing Leonardo would be great even if they would likely only have a few lines.
dawwe
05-22-2021, 12:09 PM
This game looks really cool. Love the cute sprite style and the intro is pretty neat as well.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E173LmkX0AQcTp1?format=png&name=orig
CyberCubed
06-16-2021, 08:39 PM
So I guess nothing new of the game was shown at E3? I've seen nothing at all the last few days.
Coola Yagami
06-17-2021, 01:01 AM
So I guess nothing new of the game was shown at E3? I've seen nothing at all the last few days.
No one really cares about beat-em-ups though. I bet they didn't even talk about Streets of Rage 4's DLC.
Well this E3 really didn't "Happen" it was just different companies putting out videos of announcements, this game has already been announced so why would it get an announcement video. Normally when E3 is an event people get to play the games so we get more info from interviews, gameplay video, the demo etc.
Coola Yagami
06-19-2021, 02:19 PM
Well this E3 really didn't "Happen" it was just different companies putting out videos of announcements, this game has already been announced so why would it get an announcement video. Normally when E3 is an event people get to play the games so we get more info from interviews, gameplay video, the demo etc.
Also the game isn't woke or political enough. No one really gives a ****.
CyberCubed
06-19-2021, 02:56 PM
I just want a release date, I assume it's coming later this year but we have no date still.
shredder orokusaki
07-19-2021, 02:07 PM
Today i decided that if when my new gameTEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURLTES SHREDDER REVENGE If it has ray tracing and i havent found a RTX 3070 TI or bettr when it releases i will order a rtx 3070 ti or rtx 3080ti and pay even double or triple the money if needed! Yes i will pay as much as it will cost and will wait for as long as it needs in order to play it with the best graphics. That if i havent found a RTX 3000 card yet and if it has ray tracing when it releases. I will be the last boss of the game and will beat the turtles very hard! The best game of the year and best action game of the year deserves to be played with the best graphics. I still remeber in 1998 when i played the 1989 game(the first game based on the 1987 series) how terrible the graphics were on my first pc then which was a 486 100 mhz 24 mb ram and 640x480 monitor....but it was the best action game i had played!
CyberCubed
07-19-2021, 07:24 PM
I don't think you need to upgrade your computer to play a game with SNES graphics in the year 2021.
Coola Yagami
07-20-2021, 12:49 AM
I don't think you need to upgrade your computer to play a game with SNES graphics in the year 2021.
You probably do.
There's a difference between intentionally making the graphics look 16-bit on modern day hardware than actually being 16-bit because of limitations of the hardware of the era. Like you know that game wouldn't run on a SNES properly without making it blow up or something. Turtles in Time couldn't even handle Sewer Surfing without slowdown and those graphics were arguably better than the ones in this game. Plus the game is 4-player. No way the SNES would have handled that without massive flicker and slowdown.
Sumac
07-20-2021, 06:57 AM
Depends on optimization and engine.
Even if the game looks simple, who knows what goes under the hood? In some cases the game might be so badly optimized, that you might end up with more problems than with trying to play some 3D modern games.
Well we know the system requirements:
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 7+
Processor: Intel Core i3-540 or AMD Phenom II X4 965
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 960 / Radeon HD 5750 or better
Storage: 4 GB available space
RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 7+
Processor: Intel Core i5+
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 960 / Radeon HD 5750 or better
Storage: 6 GB available space
Even a toaster can run this game. Unsure about shredder orokusaki since his rig does seem to have a lot of bottle necks and he's always running into slowdown and frame rate drops.
Coola Yagami
07-26-2021, 10:59 AM
We need a release date. Even if it's just 'Fall/Winter 2021' but c'mon. Give us a time frame.
CyberCubed
07-26-2021, 01:35 PM
We need a release date. Even if it's just 'Fall/Winter 2021' but c'mon. Give us a time frame.
I guess its probably been quietly delayed to 2022, since we have no date yet.
New character reveal, take that Jennika.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E70QMv4XEAg6o4-?format=png&name=small
The Deadman
08-02-2021, 10:56 PM
Venus is in the game? LOLOLOLOLOL.
Leo656
08-02-2021, 11:25 PM
sdp is notorious for posting fake stuff to rile people up, so we'll see.
Saxon = Joke Account
Coola Yagami
08-03-2021, 11:55 AM
I legit wouldn't mind. Though it be cool if they went the Streets of Rage style and made Slash unlockable.
TigerClaw
08-03-2021, 05:45 PM
New character reveal, take that Jennika.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E70QMv4XEAg6o4-?format=png&name=small
Rear or not, I would love to see Future Lita done in that.
CyberCubed
08-17-2021, 04:45 PM
I assume this game was delayed to 2022 since we're nearly in September and we haven't seen any updates since the first reveal trailer.
Wartortle
08-18-2021, 04:56 PM
I assume this game was delayed to 2022 since we're nearly in September and we haven't seen any updates since the first reveal trailer.
Yeah, 2022 is probably safe. They have a Facebook account but the "updates" are just short videos of each turtle and each one is just clipped from the original trailer so they aren't actually new footage.
TigerClaw
08-21-2021, 11:06 AM
There's gonna be a World Premiere for the game at Gamescom this Wednesday.
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1429102822272864262
Wednesday, turtle power!
Tune in to
@gamescom
Opening Night Live for an announcement and world premiere new look at TMNT Shredder's Revenge from
@dotemu
and
@tributegames
TMNT: Shredder's Revenge World Premiere at ONL
Tune in Wednesday for breaking news about TMNT: Shredder's Revenge. Live at 11 am PT / 2 pm ET / 7 pm BST / 8 pm CEST.
It's an indie game and a 2D beat em up, it'll come out in this year.
CyberCubed
08-21-2021, 03:46 PM
Maybe not. Metroid Dread was in development since 2017.
oldmanwinters
08-21-2021, 07:43 PM
About time for a new trailer! (or anything really)
CyberCubed
08-21-2021, 09:09 PM
This game better have at least 8-10 levels.
Can someone remind me.... how do you play this again? Like... what platform is it on?
The Deadman
08-22-2021, 10:19 AM
Can someone remind me.... how do you play this again? Like... what platform is it on?
Switch and PC I think.
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