Black People Give White People Special Orders At Memorial

[IMJ]

Sign at George Floyd Square gives list of special orders for white visitors (https://nypost.com/2021/04/22/sign-at-george-floyd-square-has-list-of-orders-for-white-visitors/)

White people didn't issue "special orders" for Muslims at the Trade Center memorial.

What about any of our mixed friends here? "What about mixed, Asian, Indian, Latinos??? And if there are mixed with white which rules do they follow?

[ChosenOne]

Wow, that's not racist at all... I'd decenter myself by pissing all over that sign and walking away.

[Andrew NDB]

Very racist.

[IMJ]

Very racist.

That's the America these people want. It has nothing to do with equality or emerging into a fully meshed society. They are disingenuous liars. Don't believe them.

The irony? There are a few very low EQ people here on these very forums who could only think to respond to these threads either by saying the thread itself was racist or they don't respond at all.

[ChosenOne]

Almost reminds me of that sign outside a park in Japan in a Bruce Lee film called Fist of Fury that forbids dogs and Chinese people from going in.

What's next? They're gonna go around painting "WHITEY" outside WASP-owned businesses?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

That's the America these people want. It has nothing to do with equality or emerging into a fully meshed society. They are disingenuous liars. Don't believe them.

It is not enough to ignore their lies, but to actively fight and suppress them. Otherwise, these parasites will spread their Neo-Marxist ideology around like a disease.

[Zulithe]

Even as a left-leaning individual, I don't engage where my voice has no value. I think white people should focus on problems our own communities are suffering from, like the opioid addiction crisis and the large number of white males who have opted out of both higher education and the workforce (this is a huge, massively under-acknowledged problem.) Other groups are focusing on their problems, but we don't come together and work on ours. And if we don't, who will. Nobody, that's who.

[Coola Yagami]

WTF.

All this is gonna do is make white people hate George Floyd even worse. ****ing racists.

I'm calling this riot bait. Let someone (even if they're a black person) destroy that sign to incite more riots.

[Storm Eagle]

I'm black, and I think this is a bit much.

[Andrew NDB]

That's the America these people want. It has nothing to do with equality or emerging into a fully meshed society. They are disingenuous liars. Don't believe them.

The irony? There are a few very low EQ people here on these very forums who could only think to respond to these threads either by saying the thread itself was racist or they don't respond at all.

It'd be one thing if there was even a shred of evidence that the cop who dealt with Floyd was racist. The prosecution didn't even bother with presenting anything to that end. But we're just supposed to go, "Huh. The media convinced a lot of people it's racism... so I guess it is?" And if you question it at all... then you're probably a racist/nazi?

How stupid. How stupid and infinitely dangerous.

[Prowler]

It'd be one thing if there was even a shred of evidence that the cop who dealt with Floyd was racist. The prosecution didn't even bother with presenting anything to that end. But we're just supposed to go, "Huh. The media convinced a lot of people it's racism... so I guess it is?" And if you question it at all... then you're probably a racist/nazi?

How stupid. How stupid and infinitely dangerous.

Racism and being accused of being a racist is the new sexual assault/harassment. Just accuse someone of being racist and people will believe you, even if you have no proof.

Also, racism nowadays seems to be getting put on the same league as murder and rape. I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, no? Especially when a lot of times said "racism" is simply someone making a racist joke or using a racist slur in a private conversation like Hulk Hogan did. To this day a lot of wrestling fans demonise Hulk Hogan while a lot of those same fans forgive Chris Benoit, even though Benoit's actions were WAY worse than anything Hogan has beer done in his life.

Racism has become the new witch hunt.

[Andrew NDB]

Part of me is mystified. Like, if you tell someone who was born in the 80s or even early 90s they're a nazi or a racist... wow. In the past, this meant something. This meant you must have ties to some kind of actual skinhead/white supremist faction for sure, people that would actually fight black people and other races just because races (and nobody in my whole upbringing in WA ever have I seen or known anyone that could have been). And this wasn't just thrown around. But if it ever was proven to be true? I can't even imagine.

Now? I guess if you don't like your son or daughter age 6 being forcibly hormone blocked because they think they're the other gender now you're one and the same as Hitler or Stalin. Or previously if you voted for the wrong president. Or don't agree that everyone else is racist.

Weirdo town. Yeesh.

I honestly think the people saying these words today aren't being properly educated about WWII and aren't being educated or are otherwise unaware of the actual racist white supremist factions that have been subjugated to pretty much nothing even 20 years ago. At least relegated to pockets in the places you might expect it anyway in the south. Because even these pockets will quietly die anyway, generationally. Just hang tight. 90 year old grandpa will probably breathe his last racist thought soon... we needn't burn flags for him or otherwise wait.

But yes. Back to my point. "Racist" and "racism" and "nazi" and "naziism." All of these words are suddenly being rendered to mean nothing because they're being thrown around over and over by people who have no idea what they mean. And it sucks and it's horrifyingly demeaning to the actual victims of such.

[frank_one]

In the past white people have given "special" orders to black people for decades so I think it's fair.

[superstaff]

Racism and being accused of being a racist is the new sexual assault/harassment. Just accuse someone of being racist and people will believe you, even if you have no proof.

Also, racism nowadays seems to be getting put on the same league as murder and rape. I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, no? Especially when a lot of times said "racism" is simply someone making a racist joke or using a racist slur in a private conversation like Hulk Hogan did. To this day a lot of wrestling fans demonise Hulk Hogan while a lot of those same fans forgive Chris Benoit, even though Benoit's actions were WAY worse than anything Hogan has beer done in his life.

Racism has become the new witch hunt.

I posted a critique on the show Infinity Train online, and people actually called me a bigot, fascist, etc. I never criticized the characters' skin color or gender or anything. Heck, the critique was mostly positive. However, it still ruffled enough feathers for them to accuse me of being a fascist! It's insane!

[Andrew NDB]

In the past white people have given "special" orders to black people for decades so I think it's fair.

Though if we were to peel the paint further... slavery transcends "black people in America" by many hundreds of years and crosses many country lines. Going into ancient days. Some of it still going on now! But the SJWs don't care about that.

Though if you really twist the onion. What is black people when you consider Pangea? And so on. And so forth.

My biggest question is: why are we suddenly focused and directed to see color now, these past 2-3 years? Because my whole schooling was not to see any, and I have about as diverse a friend pool as can be. And also! Over these past 2-3 years doing so, has basically forcing this magnifying glass on race made anything in this country or otherwise better in any way? It seems like the opposite 1000% fold the opposite in every imaginable way.

Because I never have even thought about race in any interaction with anyone. But now beyond my immediate circle I have people basically asking me to "pick a side." What? What are you talking about? F***ing thanks a lot, CNN.

[Prowler]

The irony of all of this is, organisations like BLM claim to be fighting racism yet they seem to be dividing society more and more each day.

Occasionally you'll see a celebrity or an "influencer" on twitter tweeting or retweeting about a business they like adding "BLACK OWNED BUSINESS"...why is that relevant?! It's almost like these people are trying to start some sort of egalitarian Apartheid system or something like that.

In the past white people have given "special" orders to black people for decades so I think it's fair.

Two wrongs don't make one right.

[Sumac]

The irony of all of this is, organisations like BLM claim to be fighting racism yet they seem to be dividing society more and more each day.
I am not sure how they can not see it - either they are dumb zealots or hope that whipped white people will just eat that **** and ask for more, due to their "soft" nature.

Or maybe they just want to real racists to appear so then can they can point at them and say: "Told yo'!", which will enable even bigger pressure on white communities. Thus basically taking control over them and treating them like 2nd rate citizens.

In the past white people have given "special" orders to black people for decades so I think it's fair.
Justifying racism (as any other prejudice and crimes) by something bad that had happened in the past is retarded.
Do you also support revenge based murders?

[IMJ]

Even as a left-leaning individual, I don't engage where my voice has no value. I think white people should focus on problems our own communities are suffering from, like the opioid addiction crisis and the large number of white males who have opted out of both higher education and the workforce (this is a huge, massively under-acknowledged problem.) Other groups are focusing on their problems, but we don't come together and work on ours. And if we don't, who will. Nobody, that's who.

I think we should be coming together to solve problems, but the whole thing is a mess of personal calculus across society.

For example, you have a portion of the black population out in society who endlessly claim that "black problems" are caused by anything other than their personal behavior. That's not something you "solve" - it's something that most of us mature out of.

I'm black, and I think this is a bit much.

And I'm very sure that you aren't the only black person who thinks that. These topics, opinions and examples are never about the normally-operating-people in society, man. You are also probably not the kind of person who pre-empts every interaction with a qualifier either - "as a black man...", "black communities....".

Isn't it amazing how just as a normal guy living his life that it's suddenly easy to have diverse friends? Or how just being a "person" interacting normally (like you do), and suddenly so much of that alleged social $#!( just melts away? Meanwhile the part of the community who wear this $#!( like a badge are out rioting and blaming everyone else for their problems or hanging up signs with special rules for "white folk". :roll:

In the past white people have given "special" orders to black people for decades so I think it's fair.

And Romans enslaved a global population, people with Irish heritage were given special orders & trod upon when we came to the country, African caste systems are currently enslaving other Africans to this day, and the Egyptians built a nation on slave labor even more than the U.S. ever did. But your singular perspective about American racism, that was by-and-large a true social issue more than 50 years ago now, paints you as a victim in your mind's eye; or as a distributor of justice in your mind. And so, your head-math has come to equal an eye-for-an-eye mentality from algebra that is removed from both the current and decades-old reality.

But if you think you know what "equity" is, then be aware of it in your own life. Because your mentality is not only part of the problem, but it's also of the easiest to come back around and hem your ass up for whatever slights you've pulled on people in your life somewhere. And more importantly - you can't hide behind it now - your statement is there for everyone to see - you are a real racist.

Justifying racism (as any other prejudice and crimes) by something bad that had happened in the past is retarded.
Do you also support revenge based murders?

Man I can't tell you the level of patience it took me to reply to Frank One's comment the way I did above as opposed to something closer to what you said here. I can't even tell you. And where are the forum leftists to call him a racist now? You know why they don't? Because they don't care about that - they are liars. They are angry about the lives they f'd up themselves (whether black or white, doesn't matter) and the "racist" flinging was simply a way to hurt people.

My biggest question is: why are we suddenly focused and directed to see color now, these past 2-3 years?

There's a lot of people out there man who have chosen to have their entire lives be identified by "raaasssssss-cism!!". They wear it as the struggle of their lives the way that you and I wear t-shirts - like it's nothing but a part of what you do. But look at your successful friends who are black. Did you notice they don't pull that ****? Mine don't. See there's true sensitivity and conversation to be had about these topics. But the people who by and large have been out in the streets aren't the well adjusted, normally operating part of black society. We aren't talking about tolerance for "black culture" here. The real truth is that there are black people all over the country who maybe even have similar feelings to the rioters, yet they aren't out there rioting. They are too busy living their lives and have found that it's actually possible.

And so consider this. Given that there are black people in society who are simply living good lives like I've described above, then what does that say then about the people who aren't doing that, but instead have traded a real existence to drive around the hood, screaming out of a car "Kill the white folk!" during a riot where people get hit in the back of the head with bottles? The regular Technodrome forum members will consider that, while of course the leftie members or the problematic people will ignore that point because their simple head math will say that my whole post is "raassssss-cism!".

I want f'n heads, man.

[ChosenOne]

In the past white people have given "special" orders to black people for decades so I think it's fair.

In the past, black people have sold other black people as slaves, so I think it's fair. (/s)

See how that "logic" works? Or rather, doesn't? Slippery slope if I've ever seen one.

[Coola Yagami]

Racism and being accused of being a racist is the new sexual assault/harassment. Just accuse someone of being racist and people will believe you, even if you have no proof.

Also, racism nowadays seems to be getting put on the same league as murder and rape. I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, no? Especially when a lot of times said "racism" is simply someone making a racist joke or using a racist slur in a private conversation like Hulk Hogan did. To this day a lot of wrestling fans demonise Hulk Hogan while a lot of those same fans forgive Chris Benoit, even though Benoit's actions were WAY worse than anything Hogan has beer done in his life.

Racism has become the new witch hunt.

You got that right. Youtube right now has a minor drama thing going on where a Youtube was lured out by an anti-kid-fiddler vigilante group by using a decoy posing as a 13 year old. After leaving several gross messages in chat, the dude legit went to the place where the 'kid' was supposed to be at and he was cornered by the vigilantes where he pretty much confessed to that and trying to reach out to 6 other minors in the past. While the dude got away, his Youtube career is over and it's a matter of time before the police get involved.

How does this relate? Well turns out the people that caught him, one of them is a racist and has been seen throwing out the N word left and right, prank calling BLM with 'Planet of the Apes' jokes and making anti-jew jokes and whatever else.

These people now legit want to cancel him in the same way the kid fiddler was. Like they're demanding he gets investigated too. I'm like 'why though? just to find out he's an asshole? why waste time and money on an investigation on something we already know? And while racists are bad, it's still not a crime'.

Some people are taking it as far as wanting him to suffer even more than the fiddler, just for saying the n-word.

[1987]

here’s a good quote by Thomas Sowell that pretty much sums up critical race theory:

Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists." - Thomas Sowell

as far as the sign on criminal memorial square, it looks like a possible false flag, someone intentionally put it there and wrote those things to cause trouble. good thing i would never even plan to visit that racist place anyway.

nowadays, it can be considered racist to not wear a mask or to not get vaccine. really though i feel that mask nazis are the real racists, especially white liberals, those pro-mask blm apologists are destroying our country. during slavery, black slaves were forced to wear masks in order to silence them. the left really hates black conservatives like Candace Owens who speaks the truth but is met with nothing but slander by the left.

so...memorial day is coming up next month. george floyd died on memorial day last year, now it’s the 1 year anniversary. is it gonna be changed to “george floyd day”? i’m serious, since last year, July 4th Independence Day was denounced as “racist” by blm and racist colin kaepernick. it seems that may very well happen. cnn would definitely support the movement. they are turning that criminal into a saint. every iteration they draw of him looks more and more messianic, like on that racist sign. let’s face reality, the guy had an extensive criminal record, in and out of jail, beating people unconscious and robbing pregnant women at gunpoint, drugs, weapons, carjackings, and much more.... is it a bad thing that i feel the world is a better place without him? if this bastard is changing the world then we should be able to say what we really think of him.

[Vegita-San]

all you have to ask yourself about stories like this is the following :
"If a white person did the exact same thing to the black/other community, would it be racist?'

if the answer is yes, you have YOUR answer on this one.

[IMJ]

And while racists are bad, it's still not a crime'.

That's who we are dealing with from that group within the group that I detailed in my post above yours. People who manipulate & impact lives based on perceived "thought crimes" or Twitter jokes.

Think about those words, people of the Technodrome - "thought crimes". And be careful because I've read the posts here that reveal a lot of souls - spanning from real racism (Frank One's post in this thread was real racism), some openly weird opinions, or even all the way down to social weirdos who fling replies that sound like grammar school (i.e., actually telling someone that they are going to ignore them). The point? A lot of you are flinging opinions about "thought crimes". Yet from what I can interpolate based on a lot of these responses is that if we entered a world where we could prosecute thought crimes, then a lot of you are going down.

So what do you do? Abandon this extreme leftist BS and nonsense because you are going to go down by it yourselves.

[Storm Eagle]

The irony of all of this is, organisations like BLM claim to be fighting racism yet they seem to be dividing society more and more each day.

Occasionally you'll see a celebrity or an "influencer" on twitter tweeting or retweeting about a business they like adding "BLACK OWNED BUSINESS"...why is that relevant?! It's almost like these people are trying to start some sort of egalitarian Apartheid system or something like that.



I'm reminded of this one time I saw something on Instagram calling out "white-fluencers" who haven't spoken out about racial matters. I'm personally not sure it's necessary for everybody to make noise about it. It just sounds like another excuse to go after white people, and other white people will even jump on it too. It's crazy how some of them self-deprecate just in the name of BLM.



And I'm very sure that you aren't the only black person who thinks that. These topics, opinions and examples are never about the normally-operating-people in society, man. You are also probably not the kind of person who pre-empts every interaction with a qualifier either - "as a black man...", "black communities....".

Isn't it amazing how just as a normal guy living his life that it's suddenly easy to have diverse friends? Or how just being a "person" interacting normally (like you do), and suddenly so much of that alleged social $#!( just melts away? Meanwhile the part of the community who wear this $#!( like a badge are out rioting and blaming everyone else for their problems or hanging up signs with special rules for "white folk". :roll:



I won't discount other black peoples' experiences that make them wary of white people, but I personally just don't feel a need to be that way. I take the precautions when dealing with society and dealing with situations involving police (such as getting pulled over), but I just don't feel I need to go through life as though I've got a target on my back. I can only recall just four incidents in my life that can classify as racist and they probably are. They may not be, but I still wouldn't rule out racism.

I've been pulled over eleven times in my life. I really do my best on the road, but the cops who pulled me over were admittedly within their rights to do so. Eight of those cops were white, and all but one of them were professional about it. Only one decided to give me a hard time for whatever reason, but I promise I was totally compliant. It was all over a brake light that wasn't working, and that's an issue that's usually easy to remedy, and it's one that even I don't need a mechanic for. He gave me a ticket, but I was able to get it dismissed because I got the problem fixed within the given time. Also, three of the white cops who pulled me over actually let me go without ticketing me. It can still be kind of nerve-wracking when driving in the presence of cops, but I still try to keep my wits about me when dealing with cops.

I've had exposure to all sorts of people, but some people act like it's a sin against nature for me to socialize with white people, and minorities have to stick together. Just because I'm around black people, it doesn't guarantee that will be no worries. I've been around other black people or minorities who were just obnoxious and a good number of my interactions with white people have been a lot more positive. I've been around white people who I didn't care for as well, and I definitely don't mind being around other black people either, but like the saying goes, not all skin folk are kinfolk.

You know how you might hear some black people talk about times where they were the only black or minority person in one place? The first time I ever experienced something like that was when I was in college, and those times weren't even bad. The college I went to was most likely predominantly white, but not so much that minority students couldn't possibly fit in. In my first semester, there were two classes where I was somehow the only black person there. In one class, there was also an Indian girl and a guy who was either black or Hispanic (or maybe both). In the other, there was a girl from Iran and a guy from Puerto Rico. If those aren't good enough examples, it was this one class in a later year where I was the only one who wasn't white. It was fine though, because I managed to get along with everyone, and nobody treated me as though I was an alien from another planet.

[IMJ]

I won't discount other black peoples' experiences that make them wary of white people, but I personally just don't feel a need to be that way. I take the precautions when dealing with society and dealing with situations involving police (such as getting pulled over), but I just don't feel I need to go through life as though I've got a target on my back. I can only recall just four incidents in my life that can classify as racist and they probably are. They may not be, but I still wouldn't rule out racism.

I've been pulled over eleven times in my life. I really do my best on the road, but the cops who pulled me over were admittedly within their rights to do so. Eight of those cops were white, and all but one of them were professional about it. Only one decided to give me a hard time for whatever reason, but I promise I was totally compliant. It was all over a brake light that wasn't working, and that's an issue that's usually easy to remedy, and it's one that even I don't need a mechanic for. He gave me a ticket, but I was able to get it dismissed because I got the problem fixed within the given time. Also, three of the white cops who pulled me over actually let me go without ticketing me. It can still be kind of nerve-wracking when driving in the presence of cops, but I still try to keep my wits about me when dealing with cops.

I've had exposure to all sorts of people, but some people act like it's a sin against nature for me to socialize with white people, and minorities have to stick together. Just because I'm around black people, it doesn't guarantee that will be no worries. I've been around other black people or minorities who were just obnoxious and a good number of my interactions with white people have been a lot more positive. I've been around white people who I didn't care for as well, and I definitely don't mind being around other black people either, but like the saying goes, not all skin folk are kinfolk.

You know how you might hear some black people talk about times where they were the only black or minority person in one place? The first time I ever experienced something like that was when I was in college, and those times weren't even bad. The college I went to was most likely predominantly white, but not so much that minority students couldn't possibly fit in. In my first semester, there were two classes where I was somehow the only black person there. In one class, there was also an Indian girl and a guy who was either black or Hispanic (or maybe both). In the other, there was a girl from Iran and a guy from Puerto Rico. If those aren't good enough examples, it was this one class in a later year where I was the only one who wasn't white. It was fine though, because I managed to get along with everyone, and nobody treated me as though I was an alien from another planet.

That all sounds like reasonable life experience and reasonable attitude-direction to me, man. I respect all of this very grounded, every-day-material as you've presented it. Thanks for your perspective - it's refreshing.

[Storm Eagle]

That all sounds like reasonable life experience and reasonable attitude-direction to me, man. I respect all of this very grounded, every-day-material as you've presented it. Thanks for your perspective - it's refreshing.

I'm glad to have shared it. Like I said though, I won't diminish others' experiences and I'm sorry that a lot of minorities seem to not have been as fortunate as I. So I don't want other minorities trying to influence me on how white people are the enemy.

I was also searched in a store once when I was 14, but I had been in there a while anyway. I did buy some things there the first time, but I went back to look at more things. These two cops at the door searched me, and so did the store owner. I tend to wonder if it would have gone down that same way if I were white. I once met a black woman when I was 17 who worked with teenagers, and she told me that white teenagers have told her about being followed around as well. So sometimes it's a youth issue, and not always a race issue.

A white guy followed me around in a Waldenbooks once when I was 20, and I'm not sure why. He didn't even try being stealthy about it. He made it so obvious.
It was like that in a Best Buy store when I was 25, except the guy was Hispanic. So being asked if I need help in a store can make me a bit wary too sometimes, even if the person asking isn't white.

[AquaParade]

That doesn't come from a place that speaks for all black people, so whoever did that is a fool. It just sounds like the words of a very bitter individual.

[Prowler]

I'm reminded of this one time I saw something on Instagram calling out "white-fluencers" who haven't spoken out about racial matters. I'm personally not sure it's necessary for everybody to make noise about it. It just sounds like another excuse to go after white people, and other white people will even jump on it too. It's crazy how some of them self-deprecate just in the name of BLM.



I won't discount other black peoples' experiences that make them wary of white people, but I personally just don't feel a need to be that way. I take the precautions when dealing with society and dealing with situations involving police (such as getting pulled over), but I just don't feel I need to go through life as though I've got a target on my back. I can only recall just four incidents in my life that can classify as racist and they probably are. They may not be, but I still wouldn't rule out racism.

I've been pulled over eleven times in my life. I really do my best on the road, but the cops who pulled me over were admittedly within their rights to do so. Eight of those cops were white, and all but one of them were professional about it. Only one decided to give me a hard time for whatever reason, but I promise I was totally compliant. It was all over a brake light that wasn't working, and that's an issue that's usually easy to remedy, and it's one that even I don't need a mechanic for. He gave me a ticket, but I was able to get it dismissed because I got the problem fixed within the given time. Also, three of the white cops who pulled me over actually let me go without ticketing me. It can still be kind of nerve-wracking when driving in the presence of cops, but I still try to keep my wits about me when dealing with cops.

I've had exposure to all sorts of people, but some people act like it's a sin against nature for me to socialize with white people, and minorities have to stick together. Just because I'm around black people, it doesn't guarantee that will be no worries. I've been around other black people or minorities who were just obnoxious and a good number of my interactions with white people have been a lot more positive. I've been around white people who I didn't care for as well, and I definitely don't mind being around other black people either, but like the saying goes, not all skin folk are kinfolk.

You know how you might hear some black people talk about times where they were the only black or minority person in one place? The first time I ever experienced something like that was when I was in college, and those times weren't even bad. The college I went to was most likely predominantly white, but not so much that minority students couldn't possibly fit in. In my first semester, there were two classes where I was somehow the only black person there. In one class, there was also an Indian girl and a guy who was either black or Hispanic (or maybe both). In the other, there was a girl from Iran and a guy from Puerto Rico. If those aren't good enough examples, it was this one class in a later year where I was the only one who wasn't white. It was fine though, because I managed to get along with everyone, and nobody treated me as though I was an alien from another planet.
Yes. But if those said influencers spoke out or attempted to speak out, then several people would most likely complain they were just virtue signaling. It happened with Alexa Bliss from WWE. When Derek Chauvin was sentenced, she said she was glad he was going to prison. And then a few minutes later tweeted something unrelated to that case and went back to talking about her wrestling character. Some people were upset with her "OH THAT'S ENOUGH ACTIVISM FOR TODAY HUH". It's damned if you and damned if you don't.

Your story reminds me of this one time I spoke with a black German guy who lived in the US for a couple of years or so. He said some of the other black guys in the company he was working for didn't like how he mostly seemed to hang out and have lunch with the white guys... who were Germans just like him. Why would he NOT hang out with them? :lol:

[Leo656]

The "activism" is all a crock of sh*t. It's a scam. It's not even about "racism", it's about subversively pushing a completely different agenda using "racism" as a smokescreen.

I read an article earlier, but I can't find it now or I'd post the link. The writer talked to a bunch of black college-age people about what it felt like after the cop's verdict came in, what it feels like being "black in America" in general, and what "should" happen next.

One black lady they talked to was a real trip. She openly talked about how she skipped her college classes every day last Spring to go protest over the George Floyd thing (and sent her professor daily emails demanding extensions on her work, because protesting was more important, dead serious), and whined about how she hasn't been the same since she got shot by rubber bullets at a protest not long ago (boo f*cking hoo). She said America "still has a long way to go" and the author asked her what "needs" to happen to make her and others like her feel satisfied.

She said, "abolish the police" (VERY first thing; not "defund" or "reform" or anything, she said "abolish", as in "get rid of completely", that was Demand Number One), "end mass incarcerations" (read "Let criminals loose among law-abiding citizens as if they weren't criminals"), "free universal health care" and "cancel all student loan debt". She said that was what needs to happen before black people can be satisfied.

Now, I do have to give this f*cking imbecile points for honesty, if nothing else.

But the thing is, look closely at those demands and what they really mean. What she and others of her ilk are demanding isn't really "an end to racism", they're demanding a society free from any and all personal responsibility and consequence and using "racism" as the Trojan Horse to get there. They're saying:

- "We don't need cops. There are no 'criminals', only disenfranchised victims that were 'pushed too far' by society."
- "Since everyone who's in jail was put there for no reason, we can just let them back out into civilized society and everything will be Perfectly Fine."
- "Even though health care services cost billions of dollars annually to provide even at a basic level, nobody should have to pay back into that system. Let Santa Claus do it, for all we care."
- "Same for education. I Want, therefore I Deserve. Again, it costs people money to provide me this service, but f*ck 'em."

Now, OBVIOUSLY this is all bullsh*t lunacy that falls apart under even the slightest scrutiny. Because:

- People commit crimes. Often violent ones. Criminals Are Real. You can't send a social worker to Sweet Talk with a violent junkie who's robbing a liquor store, a drunk who's beating his wife and kids, or a pedophile. We Need Cops. Sure, some of them suck, but they're necessary. If anything, we need MORE law enforcement, not less, and they should be even more strict than they are.
- MOST people in jail and prison ARE there for a reason. Again, people kill people. People hurt people. People rape and molest and murder people. "End mass incarceration"? Sure. Just let these f*cking people back out on the streets. Let them move next door to YOU, since you love 'em so much. I'm sure that'll be fine.
- "Free" health care is a pipe dream because there's too many goddamn people in this country and a lot of people would abuse the system (many already do). We'd be as broke as Venezuela in a year if we did this.
- Again, college is a service it costs money to provide. Does it cost too much? Yes. Especially since all "education" can be obtained on the internet for free, even the stuff they teach you in college. And most people only go to college to play sports and do drugs, anyway, the "school" part is just a formality. But in any case, it costs money to provide the service, you should have to pay to receive it. Do I think the education system needs reform? Yes. But "free"? Same problem as with health care, except even more rampant abuse would take place (again, the woman in the article was BRAGGING about how she wasn't even going to her college classes in the first place; of COURSE she'd want free college.:roll:). College is a privilege, not a right. Part of WHY it's so expensive is to ensure that only the most dedicated people will even bother with it; it's to weed out the lazy and irresponsible people at the bottom rung of the ladder who'd only end up scrubbing toilets anyway because they lack ambition.

So again, these people don't care about "racism", because none of those things have anything to DO with "race"; they're mostly about class, but let's not get too far off track. What these people are demanding is a Free Ride through Life. Freedom from responsibility and consequence. If they commit a crime, nobody can punish them. If they get Hepatitis (or AIDS) from shooting up, they get a lifetime of free medical care as a reward for being so irresponsible. If they decide to pursue a law degree or a doctorate, that should be a gift, a free ride to a seven-figure income. That's how they think, and that's what they're saying is "necessary" before black people in America can be satisfied.

No sane person should ever indulge this kind of thinking. We're currently living in a society that takes accountability, hard work, consequences, and personal responsibility, lumps all of those things together, and calls it "Racism". Because that's the only way they can manage to turn those GOOD Things into "Bad Things". They can't come out and SAY, "We black people want the freedom to commit crimes, slack off, do drugs, and be rewarded for it"... so instead they say that anything that forces people to act like responsible adults or even just decent human beings is inherently "racist".

It's disgusting.

Like I said, points to the piece of sh*t they talked to for that article for at least saying what she really meant and not sugarcoating it more than the bare minimum. But it exposes just how insane this whole "movement" of theirs really is.

What they REALLY want, is Anarchy.

The answer of any DECENT person, of any color, must be "No. You Can't Have It."

[Storm Eagle]

That doesn't come from a place that speaks for all black people, so whoever did that is a fool. It just sounds like the words of a very bitter individual.

To whom are you referring? Might it be people who I said might convince me that white people are the enemy? More than one person has tried to do that.

Yes. But if those said influencers spoke out or attempted to speak out, then several people would most likely complain they were just virtue signaling. It happened with Alexa Bliss from WWE. When Derek Chauvin was sentenced, she said she was glad he was going to prison. And then a few minutes later tweeted something unrelated to that case and went back to talking about her wrestling character. Some people were upset with her "OH THAT'S ENOUGH ACTIVISM FOR TODAY HUH". It's damned if you and damned if you don't.

Your story reminds me of this one time I spoke with a black German guy who lived in the US for a couple of years or so. He said some of the other black guys in the company he was working for didn't like how he mostly seemed to hang out and have lunch with the white guys... who were Germans just like him. Why would he NOT hang out with them? :lol:

The white influencers who might criticize other white influences for not talking about these issues, I'm sure they get crap for talking about it. I don't think they care though. They do it anyway since they feel obligated.

Those black guys you talked about probably wouldn't have liked that black guy from Germany anyway, and would probably say he's not black enough.

[Coola Yagami]

LOL Alexa Bliss.

The problem with the internet is everyone feels they have to say something. Nobody cares about literally every opinion ever.

[Rooish]

These aren't actually orders, you reactive morons. They're requests for pretty much common decency and sensitivity.

[Leo656]

Frankly, the only "morons" are those who'd have the audacity to speak of "common decency and sensitivity" while simultaneously making a martyr out of a man who once threatened to shoot a pregnant woman in the stomach.

Just because he met a bad end, that doesn't erase what he did, no matter HOW long ago it was.

There's a word for what happened to George Floyd. That word is "Karma". It gets everyone eventually.

And if some people want to call those who would honor such a man hypocrites - or worse - then not only is it their right to do so, but in fact, they are RIGHT to do so. Whenever, wherever, and as loudly and often as possible.

To disagree is to simply be Wrong.

[Sumac]

Some people are taking it as far as wanting him to suffer even more than the fiddler, just for saying the n-word.
Those people are new religious zealots. For them "heresy" against their "religion" is much bigger crime, than any real crime.

I'm reminded of this one time I saw something on Instagram calling out "white-fluencers" who haven't spoken out about racial matters. I'm personally not sure it's necessary for everybody to make noise about it. It just sounds like another excuse to go after white people, and other white people will even jump on it too. It's crazy how some of them self-deprecate just in the name of BLM.
I remember during the time of BLM'20 there were some progressive trash who were treating people who didn't said anything as enemies.

Imagine being delusional, that you think game and movie companies MUST state their opinion on the matter or they enemies.

[Storm Eagle]

LOL Alexa Bliss.

The problem with the internet is everyone feels they have to say something. Nobody cares about literally every opinion ever.

"A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool speaks because he has to say something." - Plato



I remember during the time of BLM'20 there were some progressive trash who were treating people who didn't said anything as enemies.

Imagine being delusional, that you think game and movie companies MUST state their opinion on the matter or they enemies.

Sometimes actions speak louder than words.

[mrmaczaps]

I'm glad to have shared it. Like I said though, I won't diminish others' experiences and I'm sorry that a lot of minorities seem to not have been as fortunate as I. So I don't want other minorities trying to influence me on how white people are the enemy.

I was also searched in a store once when I was 14, but I had been in there a while anyway. I did buy some things there the first time, but I went back to look at more things. These two cops at the door searched me, and so did the store owner. I tend to wonder if it would have gone down that same way if I were white. I once met a black woman when I was 17 who worked with teenagers, and she told me that white teenagers have told her about being followed around as well. So sometimes it's a youth issue, and not always a race issue.

A white guy followed me around in a Waldenbooks once when I was 20, and I'm not sure why. He didn't even try being stealthy about it. He made it so obvious.
It was like that in a Best Buy store when I was 25, except the guy was Hispanic. So being asked if I need help in a store can make me a bit wary too sometimes, even if the person asking isn't white.


As a white dude who has been both followed around a store for no good reason AND asked, as an employee of a store, to follow people around, its just a thing that happens. I even got asked to follow a friend around because he was meeting me after work but got there too early and was being a dipstick, playing with everything all over the store... lol. I told my boss, "hey, thats a friend of mine so I can't follow him around cuz he'd just want to hang out & chat with me, plus I know he isn't stealing anything..." and they said "how do you know he wouldn't steal anything?" I said "well two reasons are cuz I work here & because he know's to fear me more than the cops if he steals from my place of work..." And my boss was oddly quiet and then asked someone else to follow him around anyways... All he was doing was pushing the buttons on all the kids toys and standing up 2 or 3 copies of every book on the book tables. He ended up buying a 5 lb bag of M&Ms or something & then headed out to his car just before my shift ended & I asked on the way out if my coworker liked following him around for 45 minutes & then laughed at my boss. Got outside and asked if he knew he was being followed & he said yes & he enjoyed play checking all the eggs in the cooler for cracked ones... :lol:

I've been targeted by police for being a young white male driving a sports car at 18 to 22ish. My first car was an 86 Mustang hatchback. My second car was a 95 Mustang, a nice shade of blue. Picked up a lady friend a couple towns over every Thursday through Saturday night for a few weeks & the cops followed us from her workplace, to her home & then followed me home hours later to the town line anyways. Three cruisers one night. One in front, two behind me. Got to a four way intersection and 2 turned off in either direction, last guy pulled me over at the town line & accused me of drinking... I played nice, gave him no sh¡t & then told my friend whose dad was friends with the chief of police. He made a phone call and that towns officers haven't bothered me in 2 decades since... then last summer I got pulled over for going under the speed limit in my Avenger. He said it was for "something weird" on my back license plate except that he had been driving at me & made an immediate u-turn, then followed me for about a mile. No ticket, no warning, just have a good day. Kind of weird, but whatever.

Anywho..... :lol: :lol:

[Prowler]

It seems like some people are just a magnet for cops, for some odd reason. I've met a couple of different people, a guy and a girl, who didn't like cops because their own interactions with them were always tense. And no, these weren't shady looking people with criminal records. But, for some reason, cops always got suspicious vibes from them. Its strange. It's like cops have a radar of some sort but into their minds, but that radar fails often.

[The Deadman]

In the past white people have given "special" orders to black people for decades so I think it's fair.

So something that happened decades ago means it's okay to do it now? That's like saying the Jews can put nazis in concentration camps as revenge for what happened during World War II.

[Rooish]

So something that happened decades ago means it's okay to do it now? That's like saying the Jews can put nazis in concentration camps as revenge for what happened during World War II.

No its not. It's like saying Jews can ask Nazis to shut the **** up while visiting a memorial site at Auschwitz or something.

[Powder]

I think the 'special orders' are good ones, because a lot of people are out here virtue signaling, trying to look like they care more than they really do, to seem like a social media hero, bleeding heart, etc. It's important to remind people that honoring the dead, or supporting a cause, is about the issue at hand, not you, for sure.

I don't, however, see why that needs to be addressed to one race specifically, when people of all walks of life in this generation are guilty of that.

[Sumac]

I think the 'special orders' are good ones, because a lot of people are out here virtue signaling, trying to look like they care more than they really do, to seem like a social media hero, bleeding heart, etc. It's important to remind people that honoring the dead, or supporting a cause, is about the issue at hand, not you, for sure.

I don't, however, see why that needs to be addressed to one race specifically, when people of all walks of life in this generation are guilty of that.
Because, their "religion" blames white people for everything bad and absolves all other races of any guilt. Blacks and Asians can do no wrong and if they do, it always fault of "white supremacy". This logic can be seen when leftards discuss Blacks attacks on Asians.

Not to mention "critical race theory" and tsunami of blaming everything, from math to furniture designs (https://hyperallergic.com/639763/mid-century-modernism-racial-history/?fbclid=IwAR1cssN8Ae7wQPeHEh18YfjFNQ2Cun3ZGaB5THMH QSLtDbPAP81Y9u0sc7I), as being "white supremacy" propaganda.

[skylord]

If you read the actual sign its absolutely fine. White people are loud about black/non-white issues and bad about providing space for those communities to speak for themselves. This is a sign directed at liberal white people.

How are you guys mad about liberals being told to shut up? Seems like a win win for both left and right.

I don't, however, see why that needs to be addressed to one race specifically, when people of all walks of life in this generation are guilty of that.
White people are just notoriously more guilty of this behavior. Plus experiences about race from indigenous, asian, hispanic, etc. can be similar in a way that white race experience cannot. The note says "White people in particular" meaning that it mostly applies to white people but also to everyone inadvertently centering themselves.

[IndigoErth]

If you read the actual sign its absolutely fine.Agree. Though I don't see where it's supposedly aimed at liberals specifically. Personally, I read it and went "eh," and immediately assumed that there is a 99% probability that it was put up because there was a hell of a lot of hate and vitriol aimed at George Floyd for nearly a year after his death.

No matter what any outsiders think of him, his family and others who cared about him had to listen to that and still do while grieving that loss, so I'm not really all that surprised that someone put up a sign. Calling out any group in particular is provoking and just asking for more trouble... but I can understand why they did it after a year of a lot of BS after his death, and what it asked of people aren't exactly bad things.

[skylord]

Agree. Though I don't see where it's supposedly aimed at liberals specifically.

It does not outright say liberals but the language is very clearly targeted towards left leaning individuals. terms like "Decenter" and "BIPOC" are pretty clear indications to me that this is referring to the white liberal person who wants to grab the microphone when perhaps now isn't the time.

The sign isn't particularly inflammatory to those seeking to bring hate there. Most white people coming in support would and should agree that now is not the time for them to speak.

[Rooish]

It's nice to be reading some damn sense on this forum.

[Andrew NDB]

The "activism" is all a crock of sh*t. It's a scam. It's not even about "racism", it's about subversively pushing a completely different agenda using "racism" as a smokescreen.

I'll just save time and say "Yes, this."

But this really only speaks to the source and the propagators of such. The people picking up "the cause" think they're basically modern day civil rights heroes, the same as any from the actual civil rights movement. But nowadays, with added caveat of the daily reward of constant high fives and Likes from their like-minded hive minds/echo chambers on the internet (you know, as opposed to the past during the real civil rights movement, where they were fighting for a very real just cause and just got bruises and jail time and no high fives of any kind from anyone). Like a rush, a fix. A reward. But all of these people crumble when confronted beyond the internet directly, or when they're not in a masked mob.

[ABrown]

God I'm so sick of this whole planet.

[mrmaczaps]

I'll just save time and say "Yes, this."

But this really only speaks to the source and the propagators of such. The people picking up "the cause" think they're basically modern day civil rights heroes, the same as any from the actual civil rights movement. But nowadays, with added caveat of the daily reward of constant high fives and Likes from their like-minded hive minds/echo chambers on the internet (you know, as opposed to the past during the real civil rights movement, where they were fighting for a very real just cause and just got bruises and jail time and no high fives of any kind from anyone). Like a rush, a fix. A reward. But all of these people crumble when confronted beyond the internet directly, or when they're not in a masked mob.

Exactly this.

[Psycho Barny Fife]

One of the main reasons we have been more focused on race is that black people are tired of being murdered by the police. White racist responded by punching down at the uppity blacks. And then their is the fact that Trump gave racist the ok to be a racist, in public. So those are three of the main reasons we have been hearing more about racism as of late.

[Vegita-San]

worst first post on a turtle forum ever :).

[joe-eyeball]

worst first post on a turtle forum ever :).

True but they chose such a clever username!:roll:

[1987]

One of the main reasons we have been more focused on race is that black people are tired of being murdered by the police. White racist responded by punching down at the uppity blacks. And then their is the fact that Trump gave racist the ok to be a racist, in public. So those are three of the main reasons we have been hearing more about racism as of late.

source: “trust me bro”

[Cowabung-Gal]

One of the main reasons we have been more focused on race is that black people are tired of being murdered by the police.

Really? Was Andrew Sundberg “murdered”? Or was he justifiably taken down because he, himself, tried to murder Arabella Yarbrough and her young [black] children in their own apartment? It’s obviously the latter, yet still BLM held a memorial for that maniac, right in front of the same apartment nonetheless, so those poor kids are seeing people celebrate the man who tried to murder them. And when Yarbrough, who was right to be furious, confronted the protestors, what did they tell her? “Shut up, you’re alive.” “Yeah, there are bullet holes in your apartment but not in you.” “You’re just having a moment right now”.

Yes, police brutality does in fact exist, but BLM doesn’t care about black lives. It’s all a scam. And people are starting to wake up to that.

[Anarchistguy]

I'm black and I think this is beyond retarded.

[Coola Yagami]

Yes, police brutality does in fact exist, but BLM doesn’t care about black lives. It’s all a scam. And people are starting to wake up to that.

BLM is all about making themselves richer and grandstanding. Sadly the absolute last thing they care about is black lives.

[ChosenOne]

One of the main reasons we have been more focused on race is that black people are tired of being murdered by the police.

Maybe learn the meaning of the words "Freeze", "Hands where I can see them" and "Get out of the car", then. An order from the police isn't a suggestion.