James Franco in trouble, but now Seth Rogen, too

[Andrew NDB]

James Franco is old news (the women with their allegations), but now Seth Rogen has been making the rounds apologizing. Last word was he came out and said he's refusing to work with James Franco as a last ditch plea for forgiveness (even though it was pretty well assumed he wouldn't be anyway)... but that's apparently not good enough.

"Actress" Charlyne Yi says Rogen's original apology about ever having worked with Franco isn't enough, that she now has a list of things Rogen needs to do for sexual assault awareness before Rogen can be forgiven:

https://www.thecut.com/amp/2021/05/charlyne-yi-responds-to-seth-rogens-james-franco-statement.html

They can't resist eating their own. And proof positive why you NEVER apologize to these people.

[TigerClaw]

James Franco is old news (the women with their allegations), but now Seth Rogen has been making the rounds apologizing. Last word was he came out and said he's refusing to work with James Franco as a last ditch plea for forgiveness (even though it was pretty well assumed he wouldn't be anyway)... but that's apparently not good enough.

"Actress" Charlyne Yi says Rogen's original apology about ever having worked with Franco isn't enough, that she now has a list of things Rogen needs to do for sexual assault awareness before Rogen can be forgiven:

https://www.thecut.com/amp/2021/05/charlyne-yi-responds-to-seth-rogens-james-franco-statement.html

They can't resist eating their own. And proof positive why you NEVER apologize to these people.
So he's guilty by association?

[Sumac]

So he's guilty by association?
Of course.

I mean, Left are the same people that believe that whole generation of people should be responsible for misdeeds of their ancestors.

And, of course, those ****heads think that, if you were associated with people they consider "bad" you are a "suspect" as well and most likely a bad person too. All in all those ****ers are no different than religious zealots.

I am more surprised that people are willing to bend down to the will of those ****** retards.

Like, you have seen that those idiots are never ever satisfied: even if you apologize - it is not enough. They still will ask for your blood.

Even if you found non-guilty, they still will consider you a bad person, because, "investigators are liars, something-something privilege, bad people protect each other" and **** like that.

I kid you not - there was a case, when some relatively popular actor who was a host of tome TV show was suspended after being "me too'd". Investigation showed that he was innocent and allegations were a lie. But our lefty friends, who stand up for "law and justice and facts" said: "nah, **** it, it is all lie, I will still treat him like he is guilty, because, I know better than investigators!".

Why will you bend a knee for those people?
Unless you have a deathwish for your carrier.

Lefties are like piranhas - in an attempt to prove themselves the most woke - they will gladly destroy each other and it doesn't matter how much money you've donated to charities, how many people you helped in real life. If worthless basement dwelling twats and rich white kids say you're guilty and should be destroyed, than should be it.

[IMJ]

So he's guilty by association?

That's the liberal way, man.

[FrederikWolferson]

They will take that apology as an admission of guilt. Every time.

[AquaParade]

Imagine waking up to see your "apology checklist". We all make mistakes, but I'd wonder why that person is focusing on me instead of themselves. Maybe it's an impossible standard to live by, but sometimes I feel like we should all be focusing on ourselves 100% before trying to correct someone else. I understand that there is also a responsibility to look out for others, but this rubs me the wrong way.

[Sumac]

They will take that apology as an admission of guilt. Every time.
I can't even wrap my mind what kind of mindset needed to think like that.

Wouldn't be it easier to admit that "once a bad person is bad forever" (which goes against Lefty ideology, but who cares anymore?) as opposed to pretend that apology is needed?

[FrederikWolferson]

I can't even wrap my mind what kind of mindset needed to think like that.

Wouldn't be it easier to admit that "once a bad person is bad forever" (which goes against Lefty ideology, but who cares anymore?) as opposed to pretend that apology is needed?
You assume you are dealing with rational people. That is clearly not the case.

[IMJ]

People on the left have no true moral code. It's as simple as that. They will say anything to get what they want at the time, or they will emote any anger or impose any will that empowers them on a psychological level.

According to a modern liberal, if someone they hate does something they don't like, then that person should be forever punished, cancelled, whatever.
According to a modern liberal, if someone they are supporting is a criminal, then they should be given free reign, new chances, and surrounded with support and public programs.

It's all a lie-of-easiest-retort. They are disingenuous. Don't believe them. They've been given too much power and platform because the normal-operating part of society took a polite and respectful moment to give them an ear and give them time. Just stop.

[FrederikWolferson]

Here is the thing- it's not that they have different views on things its that they see different thing. They live in a whole different reality.

[IMJ]

Here is the thing- it's not that they have different views on things its that they see different thing. They live in a whole different reality.

Ya I'd say that there is a cross section of that population where your description there is fundamentally true. Fundamentally true by both the selfish-psychology as well as sociological-phenomena levels. It's the selfish-psychology levels that I regularly take issue with. But most of those people wouldn't understand even that. There is a point where you draw a line of understanding and simply get into a well of "these are terrible people". There's a point where the justification of behavior finally crosses the line into "you're too far gone, you're too lost in your own maze of nonsense, it's purely you".

[Leo656]

People shouldn't cancel Seth Rogen because James Franco might be a womanizer, sexual harasser, whatever the accusation is.

People should cancel Seth Rogen because Seth Rogen isn't funny.
:trazz::trazz::trazz:

[Andrew NDB]

Rogen's politics are horrible (and also he says gems like "saying 'left' and 'right' like they are two arms of a whole isn't correct, the 'right' are actively killing people!" and how he's tried to convert some nameless fellow actors unsuccessfully and how disappointed he is in them) but I do enjoy almost everything he's done. "The Interview," "This is the End"... to me, these were hysterical.

[Leo656]

Honestly didn't see those. I reserve the right to change my opinion at a later date if I see them and they Wow me.

[Andrew NDB]

Honestly didn't see those. I reserve the right to change my opinion at a later date if I see them and they Wow me.

They're not "stoner comedies" like maybe his "The Pineapple Express" and are extremely politically incorrect. There is actually a scene where they debate raping Emma Watson, in front of Emma Watson, for example. And I can pop in "The Interview" almost anytime and laugh out loud.

I was honestly surprised to hear his politics, and how hard he leaned that way. But by the same token hearing Mel Gibson go apesh** on his wife doesn't make me like Lethal Weapon any less, it doesn't make me dislike his stuff either.

[Leo656]

I actually did come across the Emma Watson clip at one point, once upon a time. I thought that her side-eyeing them while swiping the booze was funnier than the actual dialog in that scene, but that's me.

Kind think that in real life Emma Watson is pretty aware of the fact that most guys would rape her if given the chance. :lol:

It's a good thing that she ignored all of Allison Mack's text messages, though, or she actually might've been. Yikes.

[ChosenOne]

Never negotiate with terrorists, and never apologize to lefties. But I'm being redundant.

People shouldn't cancel Seth Rogen because James Franco might be a womanizer, sexual harasser, whatever the accusation is.

People should cancel Seth Rogen because Seth Rogen isn't funny.
:trazz::trazz::trazz:

He helped make the Invincible show a thing, though. I don't like the guy either but that earns him just a teeny, tiny pass.

[IMJ]

and how he's tried to convert some nameless fellow actors unsuccessfully and how disappointed he is in them)

See that right there could be the litmus test on it's own merits for a loser leftist and taken as immediate evidence as to where the problem really lies. Tried to convert and his disappointment.... the moral authority of an uniformed @$$hole. And those reactions and positioning right there are your qualifiers for everything that people like him are made of.

Like he is - in his own mind - a savior and the absolute guiding light of what is of correct thought. Children do that too before they grow up and learn more things.

[FrederikWolferson]

Ya I'd say that there is a cross section of that population where your description there is fundamentally true. Fundamentally true by both the selfish-psychology as well as sociological-phenomena levels. It's the selfish-psychology levels that I regularly take issue with. But most of those people wouldn't understand even that. There is a point where you draw a line of understanding and simply get into a well of "these are terrible people". There's a point where the justification of behavior finally crosses the line into "you're too far gone, you're too lost in your own maze of nonsense, it's purely you".
This isn't even just some celebs and twitter people. The ruling class is putting barbed wire around cities because they believe hordes of nazis are just beyond the corner.

[Andrew NDB]

This isn't even just some celebs and twitter people. The ruling class is putting barbed wire around cities because they believe hordes of nazis are just beyond the corner.

I think it's less that they honestly believe that as much it is them wanting additional "optics" to support "we're living in fear of nazis out there! Really, we are! Surely we wouldn't need to put up this barbed wire if we weren't, right?" to the masses.

[Refractive Reflections]

James Franco and Seth Rogen are just small-time "fish" compared to the major Hollywood players like Roman Polanski and Harvey Weinstein who have gotten away with so much, and for so long. So leftist Hollywood will gladly make Franco and Rogen the sacrifices, to advertise to the world just how "woke" they are while never truly addressing the pervasive problem of sexual assault/harassment in Hollywood from the powerful.

[frank_one]

I've always liked Franco. Maybe he never gave an astonishing performance and he lacks the depth of greater actors, but he's good. I'm sad he put himself in trouble, I'm having an hard time keeping up with hollywood' scandals these days.

[FrederikWolferson]

I think it's less that they honestly believe that as much it is them wanting additional "optics" to support "we're living in fear of nazis out there! Really, we are! Surely we wouldn't need to put up this barbed wire if we weren't, right?" to the masses.
Over the past 5-6 years they told that story so many times that they probably convinced themselves.

[superstaff]

Even if you found non-guilty, they still will consider you a bad person, because, "investigators are liars, something-something privilege, bad people protect each other" and **** like that.

I kid you not - there was a case, when some relatively popular actor who was a host of tome TV show was suspended after being "me too'd". Investigation showed that he was innocent and allegations were a lie. But our lefty friends, who stand up for "law and justice and facts" said: "nah, **** it, it is all lie, I will still treat him like he is guilty, because, I know better than investigators!".

You mean Chris Hardwick, right?

[1987]

during his twitter war with Ted Cruz, seth rogen claimed that he has tourette’s syndrome as a defense for Cruz calling comparing him to someone with tourette’s. thought it was kinda funny how seth was hurling all kinds of insults and profanity, then plays victim card using tourette’s as an excuse. not sure if serious.

[ToSte]

Freaks and Geeks was pretty good.

[Sumac]

You mean Chris Hardwick, right?
Yeah, him.

[FrederikWolferson]

during his twitter war with Ted Cruz, seth rogen claimed that he has tourette’s syndrome as a defense for Cruz calling comparing him to someone with tourette’s. thought it was kinda funny how seth was hurling all kinds of insults and profanity, then plays victim card using tourette’s as an excuse. not sure if serious.
Didn't Seth also went off on Count Dankula? "You're not funny! I know that because I work in the field!"