Metroid 5: Dread

[Andrew NDB]

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Interesting that they're calling it "Metroid 5." I guess... let's ignore Prime 1-3, The Other M, and call Fusion part 4?

[Roseangelo]

My understanding is that they are numbering them based on the side-scrollers, even though the other games fit into the timeline.

1 - Metroid
2 - Metroid II: Return of Samus
3 - Super Metroid
4 - Metroid Fusion

But anyways, SO EXCITED. I need to revisit all of the first four.

The original Metroid was one of those games that you could play on the NES station in Sears at the mall, and since we didn't have an NES at home (until a few years later), I would spend SO MUCH time playing that thing.

[Turo602]

Metroid Fusion was called Metroid 4 in the opening of the game. The Prime series is a sub series that can but doesn't have to exist within the main line series which is the side-scrollers.

Regardless, this made my E3. Halo and Zelda were great, but 19 f*cking years waiting for this one. I even remember back when rumors and reports were coming about for a Metroid Dread and being so disappointed at the lack of 2D Metroid post GBA. I liked what Mercury Steam did with Samus Returns on the 3DS and despite injecting so much new life into 2D Metroid, I still felt it was limited by being a remake of a Gameboy game. So I'm definitely excited to see what they can do with a completely new game.

[Leo656]

Looks pretty cool. I was vocally not in love with the original game when I finally played it all the way through for the first time several months ago - although I didn't hate it, just felt that it was "old school" in some of the worst ways but otherwise it's still "good". People tell me that's pretty much the worst game in the series, or at least the most annoying from a gameplay perspective, so I remain intrigued.

I still haven't played the others, yet, but I will. And I'll be picking this up eventually, too, most likely.

[drgon78]

Looks good but I don't like the suit's design/color scheme.

[Zulithe]

I slept through the amiibo pre-order window yesterday so, pretty bummed about that.

[Sumac]

Looks interesting.
I can't decide, whether I like this color palette or not. It certainly looks very distinct, but I am not sure, if I like how desaturated some locations look.

But anyway, new side-scrolling Metroid is better than no Metroids of any kind.

Also, yes, Fusion is Metroid 4.

[neatoman]

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Interesting that they're calling it "Metroid 5." I guess... let's ignore Prime 1-3, The Other M, and call Fusion part 4?

Oh, that's easy to explain. Going chronologically:


Metroid = Metroid 1
Prime = Metroid 1.1
Hunters = Metroid 1.1.1
Prime 2 = Metroid 1.2
Prime 3 = Metroid 1.3
Federation Force = Metroid 1.4
Metroid II = Metroid 2
Super Metroid = Metroid 3
Other M = Metroid 3.1
Fusion = Metroid 4


Every entry aside from the original two, Super and Fusion are interquel side-stories. Only those four actually progress the story, the others just fill the gaps.

[Storm Eagle]

I slept through the amiibo pre-order window yesterday so, pretty bummed about that.

I missed my chances too, but hopefully they'll be in stores when the release date comes.

It might have gotten announced yesterday, but I didn't think stores would start taking preorders so early. I was on my phone yesterday and I caught the preorder for it on Best Buy's site, but then I decided to preorder it on my laptop since I already had it ready. By that time, they stopped taking preorders.

I almost got it on Target, but preorders sold out by the time I got to the part where I pay. Then I forgot all about GameStop until I saw a tweet saying they were taking preorders, but I missed my chance there too.

Amazon's listing is up, but it's still inactive and will probably go active later today. Wal-Mart has yet to list it on their site as well.

[frank_one]

I'm glad a new 2D Metroid is coming but what has been shown doesn't impress me. Those rooms and corridors are aseptic not as organic as I would expect from a Metroid game. Every surface seems to be made of plastic. Damn, there are indie games out there that looks better than this, more metroid-like than this official one. I hope they are still working on it.

[sdp]

Yeah, fusion is called 4 in the title screen of the game
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Prime was always considered a spin-off and "non-canon" since it was made by gaijins, especially when Other M was announced they stated that "yeah sure it happened but we won't reference and might contradict it" and Other M was meant to be an "official" spin off. Of course Other M failed and now it might not be canon or is in that "well it happened but we'll ignore it" and Prime got upgraded to "official spin-off" technically canon. Both Prime and Other M have things that don't fit 100% but meh, it can fit just fine, purists/fans just read too much into interviews on whether something is "real" or not in a fictional universe. I get it if it outright contradicts it, but just because character behaved like you wouldn't expect him to doesn't mean it's non canon. (Yes, even if it means Disney ruins Luke)

[Cure]

This all coming from the guy who takes Scooby-Doo continuity 100% seriously.

[CyberCubed]

The 2D Metroids were always numbered. Metroid Dread was originally leaked in 2005, then Prime 3 had a pirate log saying "Metroid Dread is nearing completion" in 2007...and now here were are 15 years later.

It's obvious most people here know nothing about Metroid history. The Metroid Prime games take place before Super Metroid, and Metroid Other M takes place right after Super Metroid.

The games are:

Metroid/Zero Mission
Metroid II: Return of Samus
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Prime 3
Super Metroid
Metroid: Other M
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Dread

Metroid Prime 4 could take place wherever. There's also Metroid Prime Hunters on DS which introduced all the bounty hunters.

[sdp]

Scooby canon is serious business, only scholars need apply. Any lore chump can piece together Metroid.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, fusion is called 4 in the title screen

Huh, I forgot that.

[CyberCubed]

Unfortunately Metroid has never been as big a seller as Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Pokemon, etc....so that's why despite it being a 30+ year old franchise that began in 1986 it doesn't have as many games as the other Nintendo franchises.

Nintendo generally keeps Metroid alive out of goodwill to hardcore Nintendo fans. It's a shame the Metroid Prime games didn't sell as well as they could of, Metroid Prime 1 only sold over 2 million and that's it, but again they were stuck on the Gamecube for awhile. Even Metroid Prime 3 on Wii didn't sell more than 1 million.

[neatoman]

The irony of those low sales (and the general lack of 2D Metroid) is that Metroid is one of the most influential series of video games ever made.

Symphony of the Night, Cave Story, Ori, Hollow Knight, Shadow Complex, Cave Story, Steamworld Dig, Chasm, Axiom Verge, Zordak, A Robot Named Fight, Ghost 1.0 and the list just goes on. It is crazy how many games copies the gameplay of Metroid. And not so much in terms of gameplay but Black Mesa seemed to ignore what Xen was in the original Half-Life, just so it could homage the visuals and music of Metroid Prime instead.

[Andrew NDB]

The good thing about Metroid is that it doesn't appear to be a very expensive series to make. Even the Prime games. Fairly rudimentary.

[TigerClaw]

The good thing about Metroid is that it doesn't appear to be a very expensive series to make. Even the Prime games. Fairly rudimentary.
The games themselves aren't groundbreaking in any way, They all play the same, You just have better graphics.

[TigerClaw]

The 2D Metroids were always numbered. Metroid Dread was originally leaked in 2005, then Prime 3 had a pirate log saying "Metroid Dread is nearing completion" in 2007...and now here were are 15 years later.

It's obvious most people here know nothing about Metroid history. The Metroid Prime games take place before Super Metroid, and Metroid Other M takes place right after Super Metroid.

The games are:

Metroid/Zero Mission
Metroid II: Return of Samus
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Prime 3
Super Metroid
Metroid: Other M
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Dread

Metroid Prime 4 could take place wherever. There's also Metroid Prime Hunters on DS which introduced all the bounty hunters.
You left out one and this is the proper order.

Metroid/Zero Mission
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Prime 3
Metroid Prime: Federation Force
Metroid II: Return of Samus
Super Metroid
Metroid Other M
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Dread

[Andrew NDB]

Metroid II: Return of Samus


What about the remake of Metroid II? Wasn't that a thing?

The Primes really were before Metroid II?

[neatoman]

The games themselves aren't groundbreaking in any way, They all play the same, You just have better graphics.

Not groundbreaking? I don't understand what you're talking about.

The gameplay of the Metroid series is the foundation of the entire Metroidvania genre. Countless games, a small sample of which I listed in this thread, have used them as a basis and built upon them. Castvania, a series as old as Metroid itself, was restructured to emulate Super Metroid's gameplay. Even within the Metroid series itself, Super Metroid is a giant leap ahead of the first two clunky Metroid games. And maybe you could argue that Fusion and Zero Mission didn't change much from Super Metroid, but Samus Returns clearly revised the gameplay in an attempt to improve it. Metroid Prime being a first person shooter is obviously a big change but not only that, gameplay and controls are drastically different from from other FPS games, especially FPS on console. One might even argue Metroid Prime helped legitimise the FPS on console. Then the other Prime games did add new machanics to the gameplay. And Other M, as controversial as it may be, didn't play it safe by copying either the 2D games or the Prime games.

"Not groundbreaking" and "only better graphics" my ass! You sound like you're talking about chess simulators.

[TigerClaw]

What about the remake of Metroid II? Wasn't that a thing?

The Primes really were before Metroid II?
I should have added the remake, But its the same game anyways.
Also the Prime games took place after Metroid.

[TigerClaw]

Not groundbreaking? I don't understand what you're talking about.

The gameplay of the Metroid series is the foundation of the entire Metroidvania genre. Countless games, a small sample of which I listed in this thread, have used them as a basis and built upon them. Castvania, a series as old as Metroid itself, was restructured to emulate Super Metroid's gameplay. Even within the Metroid series itself, Super Metroid is a giant leap ahead of the first two clunky Metroid games. And maybe you could argue that Fusion and Zero Mission didn't change much from Super Metroid, but Samus Returns clearly revised the gameplay in an attempt to improve it. Metroid Prime being a first person shooter is obviously a big change but not only that, gameplay and controls are drastically different from from other FPS games, especially FPS on console. One might even argue Metroid Prime helped legitimise the FPS on console. Then the other Prime games did add new machanics to the gameplay. And Other M, as controversial as it may be, didn't play it safe by copying either the 2D games or the Prime games.

"Not groundbreaking" and "only better graphics" my ass! You sound like you're talking about chess simulators.
Not groundbreaking in the sense that its been the same style of game since day one. You could argue that Metroid Prime was groundbreaking by taking that metrovania style to the 3D realm. I have Metroid Prime on the Gamecube, I tried to play it, But wasn't quite feeling it because the first person side of it was too much for me, The best experience I had with a Metroid game was Metroid Other M, I liked that it was 3rd person mostly, and I wish they made more Metroid games from a 3rd person, I'm not a fan of the first person stuff.

[CyberCubed]

Most games in the same franchise are iterations of the same genre, that's why they're the same game franchise. Prime 1 is excellent.

[neatoman]

Not groundbreaking in the sense that its been the same style of game since day one. You could argue that Metroid Prime was groundbreaking by taking that metrovania style to the 3D realm. I have Metroid Prime on the Gamecube, I tried to play it, But wasn't quite feeling it because the first person side of it was too much for me, The best experience I had with a Metroid game was Metroid Other M, I liked that it was 3rd person mostly, and I wish they made more Metroid games from a 3rd person, I'm not a fan of the first person stuff.

That is quite an unusual opinion, given the praise and popularity Metroid Prime enjoys, while Other M might be the single most despised entry in the franchise.

[sdp]

Other M isn't really that bad, not sure why people hate it. It's not an amazing game perhaps but it isn't bad, it's a good game. I think people just hate the story and samus speaking but not being a badass so they blame it on the game.

I loved the first Prime game, never beat the second one since I got filtered halfway through the game. I got bored and never finished the third game. I really liked the arena multiplayer DS game and even Prime pinball. Federation Force is also good, people only hate it because it doesn't star samus. I never played the Metroid 2 remake, but I'm guessing it's good? The GB Metroid 2 is pretty fun inspite of the limitations, I always thought it was a shame they wasted the story of "going to the metroid planet" on the GB since it's a simpler system but the remake should've fixed that.

Samus should've kept the green hair, she's an alien, I hate that she is blonde.

[Leo656]

That is quite an unusual opinion, given the praise and popularity Metroid Prime enjoys, while Other M might be the single most despised entry in the franchise.

Find "Consensus", and on the polar opposite side of the room, you will always find TigerClaw. :lol:

Seriously, though, I bet I'll like Other M more than most people when I finally do play it. Might not love it, but in general whenever people rage against a thing I end up being a lot less harsh about it, so that's what I expect to happen in that case as well. Especially since I have neither any romantic nor nostalgic love for the franchise as a whole, so the things people always rage about probably won't affect me much, or at least not to the same degree.

[CyberCubed]

If you're new to the franchise play the games in release order. Metroid 1, Metroid 2, then Super Metroid on SNES, then Metroid Prime on Gamecube and Metroid Fusion on GBA (both came out in 2002 at the same time), and so on and so forth.

It's a great way to see how the series evolved over 30 years.

[Andrew NDB]

I used to have Prime 1. Got fairly far but got stuck at a certain point. Something about a big chamber with lava around... and metal corridors leading to a center section while stuff is firing at you from all around. Couldn't figure out what to do for days so just gave up.

While literally ZERO Metroid games are available on Switch's store, I do see the key ones that I wouldn't want to emulate (the Prime trilogy, Other M) are all on the Wii U store so I should be set.

I should have added the remake, But its the same game anyways.

Zero Mission is the same as Metroid 1, isn't it?

[neatoman]

Samus should've kept the green hair, she's an alien, I hate that she is blonde.

I thought she was human from an Earth colony. First time I hear of her being an alien, aliens in the series tend to look far less human.

[Leo656]

If you're new to the franchise play the games in release order. Metroid 1, Metroid 2, then Super Metroid on SNES, then Metroid Prime on Gamecube and Metroid Fusion on GBA (both came out in 2002 at the same time), and so on and so forth.

It's a great way to see how the series evolved over 30 years.

More or less the plan. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I own 'em all I've just only played the original, so far.

The ones I've always been most intimidated to try were the Prime games, since first-person view games seriously used to mess with my eyes and occasionally I'd even get a little sick. But for whatever reason that hasn't been the case most of the time ever since I played "Bioshock Infinite" a few years ago. So I feel a lot more confident about giving those a try, nowadays.

[sdp]

I thought she was human from an Earth colony. First time I hear of her being an alien, aliens in the series tend to look far less human.
Well I know she's blonde/brunette in the ending but I never beat it as a kid but I did use the Justin Bailey password where you play as samus without a suit so to me having green hair and a purple suit was who Samus was until the Metroid Prime games.




Zero Mission is the same as Metroid 1, isn't it?

Yes zero mission is Metroid 1 along with bonus mission. it includes a map and overall brings it up to modern standards so people say it's the way to play the original game.
The original game filters pretty much everyone, there's no map, no way to save and all zones look very similar.
Metroid and Super Metroid are on the switch online NES/SNES app for free if you pay for online. Prime Trilogy was rumored to come out on Switch but apparently that was false or at least it won't happen for a while. Other M will likely not see rerelease unless it's a VC type service since everyone hates it besides TigerClaw ;)

[Andrew NDB]

What is the "bonus mission"?

[TigerClaw]

Metroid Prime didn't do it for me because of its first person view. I'm used to Metroid being a 2D platformer, Prime tried to do platforming in 3D, But it just feels more like a first person shooter then a platformer. The 3rd person stuff only happens when your a ball. I liked Other M because it was mostly 3rd person, It only went forst person when you were shooting the missiles.

[Andrew NDB]

I owned Other M eons ago as well... I seem to remember liking it. No idea why I stopped playing it.

[CyberCubed]

Metroid Prime didn't do it for me because of its first person view. I'm used to Metroid being a 2D platformer, Prime tried to do platforming in 3D, But it just feels more like a first person shooter then a platformer. .

The Prime games aren't shooters at all (despite having shooting), they're basically puzzle/exploration games in 3D. When Metroid Prime first came out back in 2002 everyone tried comparing it to Halo for some reason, and then when people played Metroid Prime they realized it wasn't anything like a FPS at all.

I remember spending decades on IGN boards back in the early 2000's arguing on the Gamecube boards about this.

[Turo602]

Yeah, Metroid Prime is a first-person adventure game. Yes, you shoot, but you do that in the original games as well and those were never considered shooters. But I never did take the same liking to the Prime games as most have either because third-person really does suit Metroid a whole lot more than first-person. Exploration, platforming, and all her cool abilities pretty much demand a third-person view. Metroid was just unfortunately stuck with first-person because Miyamoto had some fetish for a first-person view at the time after he failed to do it in Ocarina of Time.

I seriously recommend playing the remakes though. No one should ever go back to Metroid 1 and 2 after Zero Mission and Samus Returns. Super Metroid was a much needed improvement/revamp of the original game's groundbreaking concept and just absolutely made those games obsolete.

[CyberCubed]

Metroid Prime is a masterpiece. Prime 2 has some pacing problems with the dark world concept, as it's pretty taxing to get through the dark world portions. Prime 3 was the most "action oriented" and definitely felt closer to a shooter than the first two, but it does open up to the usual exploration after.

The Metroid Prime trilogy is still up on the Wii-U e-shop for $20, so for those of you who still have Wii-U's you can buy it digitally there.

[Andrew NDB]

The Metroid Prime trilogy is still up on the Wii-U e-shop for $20, so for those of you who still have Wii-U's you can buy it digitally there.

Yeah, that's what I'll do. The Prime games are really the only ones that don't make much sense to emulate, due to the controls.

[Roseangelo]

I used to have Prime 1. Got fairly far but got stuck at a certain point. Something about a big chamber with lava around... and metal corridors leading to a center section while stuff is firing at you from all around. Couldn't figure out what to do for days so just gave up.

Hah. That actually sounds like exactly where I got stuck in that game. I still have all my GameCube stuff, so I should dig it out and watch a walkthrough on YouTube.

And I know I have Fusion and Samus Returns somewhere, but I'm not sure if I ever picked up Zero Mission.

[Andrew NDB]

Hah. That actually sounds like exactly where I got stuck in that game. I still have all my GameCube stuff, so I should dig it out and watch a walkthrough on YouTube.

Indeed! I seem to remember... the GameCube days, solutions were at least a little harder to come by on the internet.

And I know I have Fusion and Samus Returns somewhere, but I'm not sure if I ever picked up Zero Mission.

I just started playing Zero Mission/the Metroid 1 remake now (turns out I downloaded the ROM almost 15 years ago)... hey, this is a lot of fun. And WAY better with the improved graphics and map. I got the 3DS version of "Samus Returns" running too and that looks pretty crazy.

[CyberCubed]

The lava world in Prime is Magmoor Caverns and that's only the second major world of the game. Did you ever make it to Phendrana drifts, the ice/snow portion? Its considered the best area of the original, and if you didn't, sounds like you guys only made it 30% into the game.

The Metroid Prime games usually take between 15-20 hours to finish depending if you want to find all the collectables or not, and in Metroid games most of the fun comes from the endgame when you have all your suits abilities/powers and can go freely exploring old areas and find all the missile and energy tanks you missed.

I beat Metroid Prime 1 like 10+ times since I was a teenager.

[sdp]

What is the "bonus mission"?

there's an extra mission where you are in your Zero Suit which is original and not in the first game. It's short but cool to control samus in her zero suit, i think it's the only game that does it.

[TigerClaw]

Here's an updated list of the chronological order, I forgot to include Hunters on it. This time I included the consoles and years they were released.

Metroid / Metroid: Zero Mission (NES/Game Boy Advance, 1986/2004)
Metroid Prime (GameCube, 2002)
Metroid Prime: Hunters (DS, 2006)
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (GameCube, 2004)
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Wii, 2007)
Metroid Prime: Federation Force (3DS, 2016)
Metroid II: Return of Samus / Metroid: Samus Returns (Game Boy/3DS, 1991/2017)
Super Metroid (SNES, 1994)
Metroid: Other M (Wii, 2010)
Metroid Fusion (Game Boy Advance, 2002)
Metroid Dread (Nintendo Switch, 2021)

[Andrew NDB]

Is Metroid Prime Hunters worth playing? Or Federation Force?

[TigerClaw]

Is Metroid Prime Hunters worth playing? Or Federation Force?
I never played either of those, Here's gameplay for both games.

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[neatoman]

Is Metroid Prime Hunters worth playing? Or Federation Force?

People like the multiplayer for Prime Hunters but I've only played the single player campaign. The controls are weird, it would have been a good idea to mimic the Gamecube controls but instead you have to pick between a touch screen mimic of mouse control on the touch screen or a mimicked dual stick with the buttons. The touch screen works better but I'd recommend you play it on Wii U rather than DS because it's a little easier to set the gamepad on a table than the DS, makes it much more stable.

The thing is, I wish that game had support for actual mouse controls, actual dual sticks and/or the Wiimote. As is the game is just awkward to play. I know there is an emulator that allows the Prime Trilogy to be played with the mouse but those games worked fine without it. Make such an emulator for Prime Hunters and it would be much more enjoyable to play.

[Turo602]

Hunters is a bit clunky. Never finished it myself due to the controls. Never played Federation Force but I imagine it plays better because of the 3DS slider. It's a co-op centric game though so that might impact your fun a bit, if the chibi art style and lack of Samus doesn't already.

[CyberCubed]

Hunters isn't worth playing now. It wasn't great in 2006 and as you can imagine the DS graphics have aged terribly 15 years later. Also you control Samus' movement and aiming with the stylus and that control scheme hasn't aged well either.

It was basically a multiplayer game since Nintendo was pushing it as their first big wi-fi multiplayer game on DS in 2006 along with Mario Kart DS at the time. Some of the hunters are introduced in that game and some become recurring characters.

[sdp]

Hunters was a great game, granted it's an online arena based shooter released in the DS era, so without online and limitations in mind it might not seem as great anymore but it was a good game despite its flaws. I'd love to see the game remade with modern controls

Federation Force I only played like 30 mins because that's what I do but it seemed like a fun game, people just bash it because it's called Metroid Prime but it doesn't have Samus and it's during the time that people wanted a new Metroid since they hadn't gotten one in many years and the franchise was basically dead.
Some of the hunters are introduced in that game and some become recurring characters.

Well the ending of Federation Force sets up a hunter from the game as the main villain for MP4 basically.

[CyberCubed]

Also Nintendo shut down the only wi-fi of the original DS, so Hunters only has a single player portion now and you can't play the multi. Hunters single player was an afterthought to the multiplayer, so it isn't really that good. At most it was a marvel on the underpowered DS back in 2006, and depending if you like using the stylus. I wouldn't really play it now unless you're a hardcore fan.

[Andrew NDB]

I have to admit... I'm glad I saw this trailer. I'm revisiting all things Metroid. I almost have Zero Mission beat, and it's a great deal of fun. Also I did buy Prime Trilogy and Other M on Wii U and just barely dabbled in both... nice! The controls are great on the Prime Trilogy and I really must say that "Other M" is much better than I remembered. They took a great deal of care trying to deliver a "classic Metroid" experience while still imbuing things with a little of the first person experience from the Prime games... while adding a ton of character and story care.

[CyberCubed]

Metroid has always been one of my favorite Nintendo series, it's a shame the series never became quite as mainstream as Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Pokemon, etc. Samus' inclusion in Smash Bros. since the original certainly helped make her more known among casuals at the time.

The Metroid Prime games were ahead of their time. They came out in 2002-2007 but feel more like modern videogames, I really hope Nintendo does an HD remaster of them on the Switch next year.

[AquaParade]

I just bought a Switch with Mario Odyssey and Botw. Dread pushed me to do it. I was waiting for Prime, but whatever.

I'm prepared to be disappointed with Mario and Zelda, due to the sheer level of hype, but I'm sure I'll at least have a good time with Mario.

How do you guys feel about these games four years later?

[CyberCubed]

Both good games, although Galaxy 1 and 2 are still the best 3D Mario. Breath of the Wild is great but there's no "real" dungeons so that was a disappointment for some that I hope they fix with the sequel.

I'd also recommend the Link's Awakening remake, Age of Calamity, Mario Maker 2, Luigi's Mansion 3, Paper Mario Origiami King, Captain Toad (if you didn't have on Wii-U), Mario + Rabbids (amazing strategy game), Smash, and some other games if you didn't have on Wii-U like Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze, Mario 3D World, etc.

[AquaParade]

Thanks for suggestions. I am interested in trying Bowser's Fury and I'll probably get Donkey Kong as well. My favorite thing about the Genesis was Donkey Kong's music, so I'm looking forward to that.
I think I may actually prefer Zelda without dungeons, but I dont want to speak too soon. I've heard so many mixed reactions from this game, ranging from "best game ever" to "no reason to explore."

Here is hoping a Metroid Prime Trilogy remaster finally comes along for Switch as well.

One small thing that pleased me in the Dread gameplay video was the use of non 2-d perspectives, like when Samus was charging her blaster. I hope they find a way to implement first person perspective as well, even if briefly. It has a way of immersing you into the world on a deeper level.

[Andrew NDB]

I just bought a Switch with Mario Odyssey and Botw. Dread pushed me to do it. I was waiting for Prime, but whatever.

I'm prepared to be disappointed with Mario and Zelda, due to the sheer level of hype, but I'm sure I'll at least have a good time with Mario.

How do you guys feel about these games four years later?

Mario Odyssey is a lot of fun. Someday I'll pop it in and successfully kill that dragon I'm stuck on.

[Turo602]

Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey are both excellent reasons to own a Switch. You gotta be one nitpicky ass person to not enjoy those games, especially if you're fans of the series already and have witnessed them evolve over the years and aren't just biased towards one era.

You can definitely criticize both of them as a fan, but they're both easy recommendations to any new Switch owner. I replayed Breath of the Wild last year on Switch after originally playing it on Wii U and all I gotta say, is that I was never once bored with it and still feel like playing it again and that by no means indicates that it's a perfect video game or even a perfect Zelda game. But the fun and immersion is undeniable.

Adding to CyberCubed's recommendations though, you should definitely check out Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair if you're a fan of the original Donkey Kong Country games, since it is from the same team that made them and has been recieved rather well as a spiritual successor to the DKC games.

[sdp]

Same here, not a big fan of Metroid 'Prime'. What ever happened to Metroid Dread; was it even real?

yes, it's real.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

yes, it's real.

And it was released last Friday.

[Turo602]

And it was released last Friday.

And it's f*cking amazing.

[Andrew NDB]

Started playing it tonight. Very fluid controls. I love the precise aiming.

The bad: music is very unremarkable when it was always so strong and memorable in the earlier stuff. And also remember all those late 90s games, where you'd play for a while then the game would transition into some kind of FMV and then back? There's a lot of that in this.

First impression is that this feels a little barebonesy.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

And also remember all those late 90s games, where you'd play for a while then the game would transition into some kind of FMV and then back?.

Back then, it was all about demonstrating and promoting new video game technology. Similair to all those early 1990's Super NES games using the Mode 7 (as I mentioned in the Actraiser Renaissance thread).

[Jester]

I know I'm late to the game (pun not intended) but I recently bought the Switch 2 as a belated self birthday gift and checked Dread out of the library. The controls don't do it for me. Too many multi button combinations to do simple things. The EMMIs are totally eating my lunch. I'd try to "get good" but I'm only borrowing it and I'm unsure i can get used to the controls before I have to return it.

[CyberCubed]

What is the issue with the controls? There's a parry button for enemy attacks (when you see them flash before they strike you). The Emmi sections can be hard, but with enough practice you'll have the rooms memorized and know where to go if you get caught the first time. The game has an autosave by every Emmi Room so losing doesn't matter.

[Andrew NDB]

Damn. Apparently I started this game 5 years ago and haven't really played it again since.