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Andrew NDB
07-06-2021, 05:35 PM
Emmerich says it's a distinct possibility. Maybe on a streamer.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/emmerich-wants-more-independence-day/

TigerClaw
07-06-2021, 05:37 PM
Emmerich says it's a distinct possibility. Maybe on a streamer.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/emmerich-wants-more-independence-day/
I'm all for a 3rd Independence Day, the 2nd one ended with Earth getting weapons to defend themselves against any more alien attacks.

Now as for streaming, It would have to be on Disney+ since Disney owns 20th Century Fox now 20th Century Studios.

sdp
07-06-2021, 05:39 PM
I forgot there was even a second one, didn't it fail? How was it? Hell is the original worth rewatching? I liked it as a little kid, or at least I liked the action figures, I can't remember I was too young.

TigerClaw
07-06-2021, 05:47 PM
I enjoyed it, I don't understand the criticism of it, It exceeded my expectation since I know what to expect when watching a Roland Emmerich movie, I'm looking forward to his next one which is another disaster type movie called Moonfall.

The destruction in this sequel was even crazier.

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Andrew NDB
07-06-2021, 05:59 PM
Most everyone hated #2. I'm among them, and I was super looking forward to it.

I will grant that the ending of #2 was at least... somewhat intriguing. As a tease for what a #3 could be like.

Galactus
07-06-2021, 07:03 PM
I can't speak for anyone else's criticism of Resurgence but for me the beauty of the first one is two fold; firstly that it's the real world being invaded by aliens and secondly that the aliens being so generic actually works for the movie. It all works as short hand for every alien and disaster ever made at that point.

Obviously in a sequel were major cities have been destroyed, humanity knowing about the existence of aliens and in possession of a lot of alien tech it's no longer the real world. That's fine as long as the world you build instead is compelling but it just wasn't.

The attempt to give a backstory and mythology behind the aliens is also is fine if they came up with something interesting or compelling but they didn't.

A third movie could have a better plot and a less bloated cast but you can't fix the above.

ABrown
07-06-2021, 07:26 PM
One afternoon, in the summer of 1996, my mom dropped off 15 year old me and two of my friends at the movie theater to see Independence Day. We went into the theater and proceeded to see Striptease instead. Later on at dinner, my dad asked me if the aliens won. I just shrugged my shoulders. To this day, I've still never seen Independence Day. True story.

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IMJ
07-06-2021, 10:36 PM
The second one was horrible. I bought it early on 4k during that window of time where there wasn't much content yet. And man.... like shoddy T.V. greenscreen bad. I watched it once.

Vegita-San
07-07-2021, 11:56 AM
The second one just didn't make sense:

- china pandering
- no mention of russel case, minus one shot of his name.
- women president
- aliens come back, despite the fact that the first one mentioned their entire civilization was on that one ship that was destroyed....
-characters killed off for no reason, no drama or connection to them at all...
- new characters don't really know each other or interact much.
- relationships setup in the first movie don't pay off...(the father/son dynamic is all but gone in this one)
-characters clearly killed off somehow 'survive'...

about the only thing that was good about the second one was the ending idea, and seeing how humanity reversed the tech. other than that, pretty boring and forgettable.

TigerClaw
07-07-2021, 04:12 PM
The second one just didn't make sense:

- china pandering
- no mention of russel case, minus one shot of his name.
- women president
- aliens come back, despite the fact that the first one mentioned their entire civilization was on that one ship that was destroyed....
-characters killed off for no reason, no drama or connection to them at all...
- new characters don't really know each other or interact much.
- relationships setup in the first movie don't pay off...(the father/son dynamic is all but gone in this one)
-characters clearly killed off somehow 'survive'...

about the only thing that was good about the second one was the ending idea, and seeing how humanity reversed the tech. other than that, pretty boring and forgettable.
The scenes with the destruction was pretty good, The whole reverse gravity ripping cities apart..

There was also that fake out where part of that big ship was just inches away from destroying the white house again, but then it stopped.

Leo656
07-09-2021, 11:33 AM
One afternoon, in the summer of 1996, my mom dropped off 15 year old me and two of my friends at the movie theater to see Independence Day. We went into the theater and proceeded to see Striptease instead. Later on at dinner, my dad asked me if the aliens won. I just shrugged my shoulders. To this day, I've still never seen Independence Day. True story.

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Wise decision.

Demi Moore NEVER looked hotter than she did in that movie. Which reminds me, long overdue for a re-watch...

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-09-2021, 02:05 PM
civilization was on that one ship that was destroyed....

Where did you get that from? I checked out the script and it says:

They travel from planet to planet, their whole civilization

It probably means they're a major space-faring civilization, maybe with many other spacecraft attacking and exploiting different planets. Not that their home planet is gone.

DarkFell
07-10-2021, 02:29 AM
The first movie did it better. There was no need for another movie, and I still stand by my former opinion.

Also, I think that this was one of the cool scenes from ID4 1.
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Andrew NDB
07-10-2021, 02:55 AM
As a kid, I definitely wondered a lot: "what will happen when the aliens come back?" And yeah, the first thought was that we'd probably reverse engineer a lot of the leftover alien tech while waiting for it. ID2 just did it terribly and none of the characters really felt alive.

Warhorse
07-11-2021, 07:24 PM
I forgot there was even a second one, didn't it fail? How was it? Hell is the original worth rewatching? I liked it as a little kid, or at least I liked the action figures, I can't remember I was too young.

I didn't see it, but my gist of it is, Will Smith refused to do it, so they decided to have his character killed off in dialogue. Mae Whitman who played the President's daughter in the original was deemed not pretty enough so they replaced her with a tall blonde who was nothing more than a supporting character to her boyfriend played by Liam Hemsworth. And, they kill off President Whitmor, which kind of sucked because he was my second favorite character in ID4 behind Hiller. So, this is why I never bothered watching the second one and will avoid the third one. Some movies were meant to be just a one shot, and Independence Day was one of them.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
07-12-2021, 04:18 AM
women president

Not a problem. I don't want to see the real politicians appearing in these kind of movies.

Andrew NDB
07-13-2021, 05:16 AM
It's a little murky if Will Smith outright refused to do it or it was a scheduling thing. Though it's hard to imagine them not building the movie's production around his availability, frankly. So I suspect the "scheduling" thing isn't a real thing.

The Deadman
07-13-2021, 10:13 AM
It's a little murky if Will Smith outright refused to do it or it was a scheduling thing. Though it's hard to imagine them not building the movie's production around his availability, frankly. So I suspect the "scheduling" thing isn't a real thing.

It was either the 2nd ID movie or Suicide Squad. He chose the latter
https://screenrant.com/will-smith-independence-day-resurgence-return-reject-reason/