Another Potential Hollywood Strike Looming

[ZariusTwo]

In the skies over Hollywood a small plane pulls a banner reading "vote yes".

On a monitor on a movie set, the same words are scrawled on a piece of luminous tape.

On a crane hoisting bits of scenery into place, the same slogan is emblazoned in big letters.

The workers are angry about their pay and conditions
That simple message is at the heart of a dispute which could shut down movie and television production across the United States within days.

The 60,000 members of the International Association of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE) are voting this weekend on whether to authorise the first strike in the union's history.

If it goes ahead it would be the biggest private sector strike in the US for decades and would cripple much of the country's entertainment industry

https://news.sky.com/story/hollywoods-behind-the-scenes-workers-could-cripple-the-entertainment-industry-with-strike-12423544

[Sumac]

Nothing of value will be lost.
Holywerid no longer produces anything, but ****** blockbusters, so strike or not, nothing will change.

[IndigoErth]

Considering the kind of money the big studios tend to pull in and how much they're willing to stuff into the pockets of the people in front of the camera, I can't really say I blame them if their own jobs are being treated as far less valuable to the industry.

[Papenbrook]

Vfx artists and cartoonists/animators are treated even worse, believe it or not.

Hopefully, they will honestly get what they deservedly demand. Hollywood needs to be painfully aware of that.

[Sumac]

Vfx artists and cartoonists/animators are treated even worse, believe it or not.

Hopefully, they will honestly get what they deservedly demand. Hollywood needs to be painfully aware of that.
Unless there will be a direct threat of some super major bankruptcy of multiple Hollywood studios at the same time, I don't think anyone will bother. If only one studios goes belly up - it will be swallowed by its remaining rivals and everything else will stay the same.

Internet somewhat alleviates this problem, with making more people be able to post their works without studio interference and the platforms like Patreon help to finance those creators, but it is still far from ideal.

[MrPliggins]

Vfx artists and cartoonists/animators are treated even worse, believe it or not.

Hopefully, they will honestly get what they deservedly demand. Hollywood needs to be painfully aware of that.

Animators have been overworked and underpaid for a long time. The wage suppression agreements between major animation studios kind of flew under the radar in 2014:
https://motionographer.com/2014/07/11/how-pixar-dreamworks-lucasfilm-and-others-kept-wages-artificially-low/

[ZariusTwo]

We will be publicly releasing the results from our nationwide Strike Authorization votes for workers under the Basic and Area Standards Agreements at 11:00am PDT / 2:00pm PDT

https://twitter.com/IATSE/status/1445039575743750144?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[sdp]

another nail in the coffin for traditional theaters :tlol:

[ZariusTwo]

Strike is going ahead.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/04/iatse-strike-hollywood-union-workers-approve-measure-to-call-a-strike.html

[Andrew NDB]

But how am I supposed to indoctrinate my kids with the liberal agenda if there's no new woke movies or TV for a while?

[mrmaczaps]

But how am I supposed to indoctrinate my kids with the liberal agenda if there's no new woke movies or TV for a while?

Kinda shooting themselves in the foot, ain't they? Pun intended.

[Sumac]

Kinda shooting themselves in the foot, ain't they? Pun intended.
Fighting for Communism is nice and dandy, but they want money and contracts! :lol:

Bunch'a'clowns!

[mrmaczaps]

Produce something worth watching... :tlol:

[Leo656]

But how am I supposed to indoctrinate my kids with the liberal agenda if there's no new woke movies or TV for a while?

They've got that covered, too, what with sending drag queens to read storybooks to Kindergarten kids. :lol: No worries.

[ZariusTwo]

Looks like Tuesday's negotiations were fruitless

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/iatse-strike-negotiations-new-offer-1235081448/

[Papenbrook]

Unless the studios are willing to negotiate the terms/agreements that would satisfy all parties, IATSE will strike on October 18th. (https://deadline.com/2021/10/hollywood-strike-date-iatse-producers-1234855030/)

I hope that something changes, but I'm afraid that this will share the same fate as the Writers' Strike.

[Sumac]

Heh, most likely everyone will go back home, with what they come with - writers need money too and I don't think anyone, but Holyweird ready to pay them, even those money.

Holyweird execs can't write for ****, bt they always can hire whoever to produce another blockbuster, so, yeah, it seems writers are not in a good position for any fruitful negotiations.

[Papenbrook]

The writers aren't really involved in this.

The pre/post-production crew are the ones protesting.

[ZariusTwo]

IATSE Strike Deadline Has Networks and Streamers Scrambling for Programming Options

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/iatse-strike-hollywood-cobra-kai-networks-1235089442/

[ranger_scout]

The strike has been averted. A deal was made.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/iatse-and-amptp-agreement-strike-averted-1235081349/

[Papenbrook]

The strike is potentially being averted. (https://deadline.com/2021/10/hollywood-strike-averted-iatse-amptp-reach-agreement-on-new-film-tv-contract-1234850563/) ( For Now ... )

Let's see if the studios will make adjustments to all of their conditions.

[ZariusTwo]

The strike is potentially being averted. (https://deadline.com/2021/10/hollywood-strike-averted-iatse-amptp-reach-agreement-on-new-film-tv-contract-1234850563/) ( For Now ... )

Let's see if the studios will make adjustments to all of their conditions.

They still need to approve the deal in the coming weeks with a ballot vote. Already seen a few members say they'll vote against it.

[Papenbrook]

Yep. (https://variety.com/2021/film/news/iatse-deal-backlash-nothing-changed-1235091286/)

It seems that those on top of IATSE are willing to sell out to the Hollywood billionaires. Everyone at the bottom of IATSE aren't having any of that.

So, be prepared for any upcoming controversies that occur. We could be witnessing a birth of a new union.

[ZariusTwo]

Less than a week after IATSE struck a strike-averting tentative agreement with the Hollywood studios, streamers and networks for a new film and TV contract, members of the union will learn the actual details of the deal as soon as this weekend.

“The Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) will be sent to you as soon as it is completed and received from legal staff of both sides,” said a missive sent out to Local 800 on Tuesday evening. “You will then have the detail notes and the contract language,” Art Directors Guild chief Nelson Parker and other Local execs added.

Heading towards a ratification vote in the coming weeks, the plan is that Local 800 will unveil the fine print of the hard-fought three-year agreement during the virtual ADG Fall General Membership meeting October 23. “Those details and comparisons to where we were, what was asked for, and what we won will be presented,” the Local 800 officials said. “We hope you will join us online to hear firsthand what is in the deal.”

https://deadline.com/2021/10/hollywood-strike-deal-details-coming-iatse-amptp-studios-union-1234858754/

[Papenbrook]

Between this and what happened on the Batwoman set, I hope that below-the-line workers are able to get out as soon as possible.

If the executives/producers are neglecting to follow even the most basic workplace conditions, they don't deserve the time nor effort.

It shouldn't be mandatory.

[Leo656]

That's precious.

You should see the sh*t me and the guys I work with go through. And we don't GET to "unionize" or "negotiate terms" or "advocate for our own safety, well-being, and mental health", or any of that happy horse sh*t.

"Go ahead, just jump off the balcony. He's gonna catch you. I mean, probably. It'll be fine. What? The last guy cracked his head open? Yeah, but see, he did it the stupid way, just don't do it like he did it, that's all. What? You don't wanna do it? Fine, go home asshole, I got 30 guys in the back who'll jump off that balcony for twenty bucks and a f*cking hot dog, just to put it on their YouTube reel. You ain't special. Come back when you have some PASSION for this f*cking BUSINESS and stop thinking you're some kinda big shot!"

I can't even imagine if anyone actually gave a sh*t about pro wrestlers as human beings. They don't, obviously; a dog's life and well-being carries more weight and value as far as most people are concerned.

But yeah. My heart just f*cking bleeds SO MUCH for these people working in Hollywood, and all the hardships inherent.

[Papenbrook]

I certainly wish that athletes ( wrestlers, football players, etc. ) were given more workplace rights as well.

Wellness checks should be necessary within all sectors of society. But alas, it simply isn't.

[Leo656]

The absolute worst time, was when I suffered a neck injury during a match and ended up losing the use of my right arm almost entirely for several weeks. It was months before I could even exercise again. It still affects me, sometimes. And I never even got paid for the match, because the guy running the show slipped out the back door and didn't pay ANYONE, and nobody ever ran into him again. Which happens more than you'd think.

And you have no rights in that situation. You can't sue for damages, you can't sue for medical bills, you can't even sue for the money the guy said he'd pay you for the match. To the courts, it's basically "Wrestling is stupid anyways, and you have to be stupid to be involved in it, so if things like that happen it's pretty much just you getting what you deserve." That's Reality.

That's the downside of sacrificing one's body for the entertainment of others, I guess. On some level, you're expected to just sacrifice your entire well-being because people pay to see you destroy yourself for their amusement.

Like, I disdain football. Can't stand it. But even I'll concede that what they get paid and what "perks" they get, compared to people like basketball players who take relatively minimal risks and altogether suffer far less catastrophic brain damage and physical trauma, is pretty sick. Nothing against basketball players, but I don't see why they get paid ten times more than a guy whose sport requires him to literally turn his brain to Jell-O, when all they do is run fast and throw a ball through a hoop. I understand it's a skill sport, but it's like the safest pro sport in existence. And they get paid the most, while guys who literally kill themselves make the least, by a wide margin.

What sense does that make? To me, zero. But, that's life.

[AquaParade]

Man, you were halfway to a Spider-Man origin tale, but all you got was a sore neck and arm.

[Leo656]

Holy sh*t, I never even stopped to think about that. :lol:

There were definitely more people at the Spider-Man show. This sh*t was in front of like 40 people in an Elk's Lodge. Even if the guy paid me it would'a been like thirty bucks. Peter Parker got way more outta his bad day than I got. :lol:

My neck X-Rays circa 2017 when I went to get checked out for that specific injury (turned out to be a slipped C1 vertebrae the doc had to pop back in place by hand) were pretty horrifying. And they hadn't been great before that, either. I can't even imagine what they'd look like now.

He said on that day, "Retire immediately." Buuuuuuut, I'd just had a whole bunch of new shirts printed up. So you know how the hell that bullsh*t goes. So here I am, still. Because like everybody who wrestles, I might be smarter than most but I'm still a f*cking idiot. Because you have to be.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

But how am I supposed to indoctrinate my kids with the liberal agenda if there's no new woke movies or TV for a while?

Books and DVD. :)

[Papenbrook]

A cinematographer has just been (https://deadline.com/2021/10/female-crewmember-dies-on-new-mexico-set-of-alec-baldwin-film-rust-1234860416/) killed (https://deadline.com/2021/10/alec-baldwin-movie-fatal-shooting-director-crew-member-dead-rust-1234860500/) on a film set. The director was also injured.

My thoughts and condolences are with their loved ones.

When will it get better?