View Full Version : Anyone else tired of reboots and sequels?
I've been ranting about this for a while in other posts but it gets lost in the discussion but I want new stories, growing up I liked having new stuff, now it's all sequels. I mean I love having sequels to stuff I loved but the stuff I loved wasn't sequels, it was original stuff.
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AquaParade
01-11-2022, 07:00 PM
There is original stuff. Most people just don't watch it. Some of my favorite films from the last couple decade are original: District 9, The Witch, Hereditary, Prisoners, Raw, Pirates of the Carribean, No Country for Old men, Midsommar.
The next original movie I'm really looking forward to is "The Northman". That movie looks incredible. Check out the trailer. That's just to name a few. I find that there is a lot of original content out there. Especially including streaming.
Although I guess I agree that the remakes and sequels tend to be more in our face, due to heightened discussion and marketing. I enjoy them myself. I love seeing Batman reinterpreted for each generation and I love now seeing some of these legacy characters come together in Spider-Man No Way Home.
So, to be honest, no. But I bet if you look hard you'll find more original content. Especially on streaming services.
Andrew NDB
01-11-2022, 08:04 PM
Tired of actual reboots, yeah. I can't even think of one I'd be interested in seeing. Remakes? Maybe a modern politics-free remake of Logan's Run.
Sequels? Revivals? I'm OK with them. As long as they don't make them chock full of requel stuff.
CyberCubed
01-11-2022, 10:42 PM
What I'm noticing more is revivals of old franchises with the original actors reprising their roles as "old people."
Star Wars, Star Trek Picard, Terminator with Sarah Conner, Harrison Ford in Blade Runner, Keanu Reeves in Matrix 4, the original Jurrassic Park trio is returning in the next movie, Eddie Murphy as Prince Akeem in Coming 2 America, Sylvester Stallone in Creed and Rambo 5, Tobey Maguire in Spiderman, Michael Keaton's Batman in the new Flash movie, the original Ghostbusters in Ghostbusters afterlife etc.
They never used to do this before. Usually a reboot/sequel would ignore the original cast and do all new stuff. Now I'm noticing more and more that they bring back the old actors to reprise their roles. It's like everyone realized all the "heroes" from the 80's and 90's are all old as hell now and it's to bring everyone back one last time before they all die.
Andrew NDB
01-11-2022, 11:55 PM
And Robocop Returns. If it actually happens.
I wouldn't count the Stallone stuff on that list at all, though. That is one guy willing that stuff into existence, even if he has to write, produce, direct, shop it around to get money and then star in it. It isn't a big studio thing. It's actually really impressive. I wish Schwarzenegger had that work ethic... we'd have had King Conan a decade ago.
Wildcat
01-12-2022, 12:01 AM
No. I love sequels and expanding a story/universe further and further.
I understand what he means about a “reboot in sequel clothing” by using the same basic plots but they do make sense and there’s more to them than that.
Jurassic World actually portrays the park open, introduces hybrids and has progressed by having the dinosaurs moved off the islands. It’s doing what LW and JP3 should have done.
Terminator Dark Fate, though it does everything the previous sequels did T2 was the same difference but everyone gives it a pass because of T-1000. It’s really guilty of copying the sequels.
GB Afterlife feels the least soft reboot-ish even though it brings back Gozer. It could have used a totally new villain but the basic plot feels different imo.
Remove the call backs it’s still about the kids encountering the supernatural and using their grandfather’s work to stop it. Where in the original GB they open a business and one customer leads to a bigger threat.
I don’t follow Star Wars but I’m sure there’s also more to it.
The guy admits most stuff has already been done over and over just in other things which is true...but of course his generation did it all better :roll:
Andrew NDB
01-12-2022, 12:18 AM
Jurassic World: requel and revival. Oh-kay.
Ghostbusters: Afterlife: somewhat-requel and revival. Very good!
Force Awakens: requel only. Semi OK. Disappointing. Little did we know how much worse it would get.
Superman Returns: requel and revival. Not good!
Highlander 3: requel only. Decent.
Escape from LA: requel only. BAD, with a few good moments.
Matrix 4: eh... kind of a requel? Not really, though. It sort of meta-ed itself into its own unique box. Definitely a revival, though.
drgon78
01-12-2022, 05:40 AM
Hate most reboots/remakes and tired of getting sequels for stuff I didn't ask for.
CyberCubed
01-12-2022, 06:30 AM
Also forgot about Indiana Jones 5 if it ever comes out, with a pushing 80 year old Harrison Ford in it.
We also just got a Space Jam sequel after 20 years. Jumanji sequel with The Rock although Robin Williams passed away years before.
They keep saying Lethal Weapon or Rush Hour will get a sequel but they've been saying that for the last 10 years and its never happened.
If growing up everything had been a rehash and a remake I wouldn't have had so many amazing shows/movies I loved, they were all original ideas for the most part sans a few exceptions like say DC/Marvel heroes.
This is also why toys are failing I think, if you look at the toy aisle you see toys marketed at Gen X and millenials, even the packaging resembles the packaging of yesteryears of past. If I had had stuff like that as a kid I would not have been excited for those toys. If you take a look at other sides of the aisle you see NEW stuff aimed at kids, nothing looks appealing to adults in that section but I'm sure those are the actual toys kids are asking for and not the ones their manchild father is buying for them. It's not just tablets, it's adults forcing their kids to like the stuff they liked just how when I was a kid adults forced kids to play football :lol:
Dont get me wrong I am nostalgic for the stuff I grew up with as a kid, I loved Jurassic World and The Matrix 4 despite being indeed rehashes of the originals, in those universes it worked. Not so much for others like say The Force Awakens which i hated. The worst part with rehashes and continuations is they don't evolve the story, they get stuck in the past and it's boring.
There is original stuff. Most people just don't watch it. Some of my favorite films from the last couple decade are original: District 9, The Witch, Hereditary, Prisoners, Raw, Pirates of the Carribean, No Country for Old men, Midsommar.
District 9 is from the 00s. Pirates of the caribbean, no country for old men are more than a decade old, some almost 20 years old, I'd hardly count that as recent. I'm not saying all stuff is a rehash, there just isnt as much original content so we're stuck with the same franchises.
Jumanji sequel with The Rock although Robin Williams passed away years before.
They keep saying Lethal Weapon or Rush Hour will get a sequel but they've been saying that for the last 10 years and its never happened.
I don't see Rush Hour 4 happening anytime soon since the older Jackie/Chris only makes any script more difficult, not to mention most of the jokes would not "go well" in todays age.
I hate how Jumanji now has a trilogy of 3 movies taking place as a video game and the real classic Jumanji on the board game is only one movie. A sequel should've happened in the 90s. At least we have the stand alone Jumanji Cartoon
(https://miscrave.com/articles/jumanji-cartoon/)
Andrew NDB
01-12-2022, 10:48 AM
Also forgot about Indiana Jones 5 if it ever comes out, with a pushing 80 year old Harrison Ford in it.
Though that isn't a remake, reboot, revival OR a requel.
AquaParade
01-12-2022, 11:07 AM
Fear not, we have the cure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMSdFM12hOw
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ProphetofGanja
01-12-2022, 12:59 PM
Fear not, we have the cure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMSdFM12hOw
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you only have to put the part after the = in the youtube URL
AquaParade
01-12-2022, 01:08 PM
you only have to put the part after the = in the youtube URL
Keep getting an error.
Me no know how.
Thanks though.
CyberCubed
01-12-2022, 04:13 PM
The realization that Superman Returns (2006) came out 15 years ago now...
Allio
01-12-2022, 04:19 PM
Depends on the context of the reboot/sequel. Lately I’ve been reading Birdy the Mighty and I’m reading the reboot. The creator created the series in the 80’s and ended up dropping it after seven chapter, but came back in the 2000’s with the reboot.
Or heck you have the Gridman universe anime that reboots/sequel to the original live action series
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-13-2022, 01:35 PM
No matter what movies, television series and video games are producerd, people will always complain these days.
1.) Access to movies, television series and video games is very easy today. Gone are the days when you had to wait and appreciate what you got.
2.) With the Internet around, you can read This is going to suck hundreds of trillions of time before production has even begun. How brainwashed aren't you at the time of release?
3.) People are obsessed with 1970's and 80's nostalgia. All the time, people complain:
This isn't the Star Wars I grew up with in 1977!
This isn't the Masters of the Universe I watched in 1983!
This isn't the Legend of Zleda I played in 1986!
There aren't the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles from my childhood in 1987!
There has always been nostalgia for earlier decades, but people weren't so obsessed with it. For example, the 1930's and first half of the 1940's had some movies and music to enjoy, but it was also a time of Great Depression, World War II and totalitarian states like Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler and the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin.
mrmaczaps
01-13-2022, 02:07 PM
Also forgot about Indiana Jones 5 if it ever comes out, with a pushing 80 year old Harrison Ford in it.
We also just got a Space Jam sequel after 20 years. Jumanji sequel with The Rock although Robin Williams passed away years before.
They keep saying Lethal Weapon or Rush Hour will get a sequel but they've been saying that for the last 10 years and its never happened.
Lethal Weapon had a retooled tv show... even though it didn't last.
mrmaczaps
01-13-2022, 02:10 PM
There has always been nostalgia for earlier decades, but people weren't so obsessed with it. For example, the 1930's and first half of the 1940's had some movies and music to enjoy, but it was also a time of Great Depression, World War II and totalitarian states like Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler and the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin.
And we are back to here again.... Nazi Democrat control of America... would this be a reboot or sequel? Lol
MrPliggins
01-13-2022, 10:43 PM
Reboots and sequels are very hit and miss. But they're generally a sure thing at the box office, which is why we get so many. Original stuff is very hard to market to a nostalgia-driven society. I say bring 'em on. I can simply ignore the bad ones.
frank_one
01-14-2022, 12:47 AM
Tons of original stories are released each year so I have no problem with sequels and remakes of older stuff being around. Whatever you like, there's stuff for your taste out there.
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