quantum leap reboot...

[Vegita-San]

Good god, I pray it won't suck, but it probably will..
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/quantum-leap-reboot-nbc-1235074815/

the original show was VERY close to woke in some cases, but it skipped over that by having a likeable straight white male fix some of histories greatest wrongs, no matter who that person was. and had his complete opposite as his helper and foil to show how wrong humanity was in the past. today's hack writers will not get that subtlety and beat us over the head with woke BS.

[CyberCubed]

They should have Captain Archer travel back in time and meet his past ancestor from the 90's.

[Jester]

https://c.tenor.com/5e-uwFCsfosAAAAd/quantum-leap-oh-boy.gif

[mrmaczaps]

Sure. Wait until Dean Stockwell is dead and can't make an appearance... woke garbage as it may be...

The original series was pretty heavily left leaning but at least Sam still kicked some a$$ when he needed to... And they didn't have issues brushing up with legit historical events.

I'd say I'm going to hope for the best but I'm for sure going to expect the worst... At this point, I'd rather have a spin off series dealing with the Evil Leaper instead, but they'd mess that up too.

[ZariusTwo]

The greatest QL sequel was Enterprise.:)

[mrmaczaps]

The greatest QL sequel was Enterprise.:)

There used to be a website called Al's Place that had at least a few hundred fan written scripts that all paid super close attention to the series bible that was fun to read. No idea if its still around & properly updated though. Been more than a few years since I've gone to look at it.

[ZariusTwo]

There used to be a website called Al's Place that had at least a few hundred fan written scripts that all paid super close attention to the series bible that was fun to read. No idea if its still around & properly updated though. Been more than a few years since I've gone to look at it.

Al's Place is still around. I pop in there now and then...and they just updated the site with the news of the revival:D

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I dunno how to feel about this. On one hand, I loved the show and still do. H&I does a QL marathon of the entire series 3 eps a night during the week. We usually have it on for background noise, but some eps I still really love, like the one where he was Lee Harvey Oswald, or the one with the beauty pageant contestant in the 50s. They broke a lot of ground with controversial topics in that show, especially with regards to historical social issues. The one with his Union soldier ancestor helping the runaway slaves was especially good, as was the three parter about the black girl being accused of murder in a mostly white town. And the rape victim. There were a lot of eps like that, and they were done really well.

[Sumac]

Quantum Leap was one of my favorite series back in the day. Granted I watched it as young teenager, so a lot of context and social issues went past my head, since I watched it mostly for time travel shenanigans.

Not sure, if reboot will execute it right, since a lot of charm of the show was coming from chemistry between Sam and Al, and I am not sure, if producers will be able to find (or even bother to find) actors who have such great chemistry.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

That's actually my biggest caveat regarding a reboot. The chemistry of the two was great, but it was also kind of about their dynamic as polar opposites. Al was the womanizing, sometimes prejudiced foil to Sam who was all about doing what was right for everyone involved, no matter how hard it got. Al had a bit of a growth arc, too, as the show went on, and he saw Sam in situations that were so difficult to deal with. Not sure a new show could be as effective doing the same.

[ZariusTwo]

A director for the pilot has been assigned

https://deadline.com/2022/02/quantum-leap-helen-shaver-direct-ep-nbc-reboot-pilot-1234930855/

[Andrew NDB]

Will it star a black guy who keeps ending up in slavery/racist eras and situations, I wonder?

[Andrew NDB]

No white people in the casting calls:

https://cosmicbook.news/quantum-leap-reboot-woke-rumors-no-white-males-non-binary-characters

[Vegita-San]

Will it star a black guy who keeps ending up in slavery/racist eras and situations, I wonder?

of course! that's the only story black people can relate too! Not finding jobs, or falling in love, or getting an A on a report card.

I can already see how the first plot unfolds, having the woman get revenge on a husband DURING her divorce proceedings.

ugh, this thing is going to be another woke train wreck.

[Andrew NDB]

So it's a continuation. The Quantum Leap program is restarted to try and investigate what happened to Sam:

https://deadline.com/2022/03/raymond-lee-star-quantum-leap-nbc-1234971138/?fbclid=IwAR3jRoPtKRBXsPZ3BrQmf160YGCxwh0rgAcugMY5 kyrbyZooPbFQNbjWSn4

[mrmaczaps]

So it's a continuation. The Quantum Leap program is restarted to try and investigate what happened to Sam:

https://deadline.com/2022/03/raymond-lee-star-quantum-leap-nbc-1234971138/?fbclid=IwAR3jRoPtKRBXsPZ3BrQmf160YGCxwh0rgAcugMY5 kyrbyZooPbFQNbjWSn4

The original series showed the system, Ziggy, only works with Sam & Al, barely with Gooshie or family members of Sam & Al.. How TF are they going to spin it for that dude? Would rather see it star someone as Sammie Jo & pick a random woman for one of Al's daughters and you have 2 women as the leads & then have some dude play Gooshie's replacement/relative or something. This is going to suck so terribly bad... if it doesn't get cancelled before even hitting the air...

[ZariusTwo]

Ernie Hudson joins the cast

https://deadline.com/2022/03/quantum-leap-ernie-hudson-nbc-reboot-pilot-1234973289/

[Andrew NDB]

"Non-binary" is cast:

https://cosmicbook.news/quantum-leap-reboot-non-binary-female-characters?fbclid=IwAR2Plm7hqYaR5ietYAP-m6mCV6TScko8aF2GOPgfSlQF1VoCcu2ReaF3rvc

[mrmaczaps]

"Non-binary" is cast:

https://cosmicbook.news/quantum-leap-reboot-non-binary-female-characters?fbclid=IwAR2Plm7hqYaR5ietYAP-m6mCV6TScko8aF2GOPgfSlQF1VoCcu2ReaF3rvc

Woke bs metric unlocked. Sh*tshow status acquired. I'm out.

[Vegita-San]

can we stop with this non binary ****?

TNG had the perfect episode showing why this was a impossible idea. That episode would be banned these days for transphobia.

sigh. I wanted to have high hopes this would be good and free of woke. but now it's gone.

[ZariusTwo]

It's going to full series

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/quantum-leap-sequel-scores-series-pickup-at-nbc-1235141711/

[superstaff]

It's going to full series

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/quantum-leap-sequel-scores-series-pickup-at-nbc-1235141711/

Oh boy... :(

[Andrew NDB]

A look at the stunningly bold and diverse cast:

https://cosmicbook.news/sites/default/files/quantum-leap-reboot-diverse-non-binary-cast.jpg

https://cosmicbook.news/quantum-leap-diverse-non-binary-cast?fbclid=IwAR1Ry90gRbq4vbvbrIt7skq4O6H86ZjX-9UnWbB-MOP1Fa6Kz4fnLAEkjIg

[Sumac]

What is that thing with pale hair?
Oh, a non-binary psycho?
Amazing.

I am glad to see Hudson's back, but everything involving propaganda or transqueer cultshit can go the same way **** goes in a toilet.
Down. The. Drain.

[Vegita-San]

What is that thing with pale hair?
Oh, a non-binary psycho?
Amazing.

I am glad to see Hudson's back, but everything involving propaganda or transqueer cultshit can go the same way **** goes in a toilet.
Down. The. Drain.

I think it's a lady that wants to be non conformative or something..

[Andrew NDB]

I am glad to see Hudson's back

wQVnIfxIs-0

[Vegita-San]

I wouldn't even be surprised if it was a woman acting 'non binary' because there are so few of those weirdo's out there.

[superstaff]

I mean...

I kind of don't...care.

The Project Quantum Leap members (Gooshie, Dr. Beeks, etc) were mostly unseen in the original. They appeared but not often at all, and were mostly mentioned by Al. If the new ones are going to appear in every episode, that will be very annoying... Hudson is the new 'Al', right? I think his dynamic with the new Sam is what will make or break the show...along with the writing, and the overall feel of it. I like the idea of Ernie Hudson in the role, though I'm not really hopeful the show's going to be as good as the original.

[Andrew NDB]

Maybe instead of 1 guy bouncing between dimensions, it's a whole team bouncing between dimensions together? Like Sliders?

[superstaff]

Maybe instead of 1 guy bouncing between dimensions, it's a whole team bouncing between dimensions together? Like Sliders?

But then...it's Sliders, as you said, not QL.

I wouldn't put it past them, though I think what they might do is have the QLP members come out more...which would also break the show. Seems very messy, and dumb if true.

[mrmaczaps]

A look at the stunningly bold and diverse cast:

https://cosmicbook.news/sites/default/files/quantum-leap-reboot-diverse-non-binary-cast.jpg

https://cosmicbook.news/quantum-leap-diverse-non-binary-cast?fbclid=IwAR1Ry90gRbq4vbvbrIt7skq4O6H86ZjX-9UnWbB-MOP1Fa6Kz4fnLAEkjIg

Oh h3ll....

[Sumac]

Maybe instead of 1 guy bouncing between dimensions, it's a whole team bouncing between dimensions together? Like Sliders?
What would be the point of making it a Quantum Leap related, than?
Oh, wait, modern media with their own "original" takes on old concepts.

[ZariusTwo]

Doesn't look bad at all, I'll definitely give it a go. I have no problem with "the message" as long as it's well written, and the original QL was always woke and could get unbearably preachy sometimes looking back.

It better have an alphabet rap.

[Andrew NDB]

I bet Bakula will be in it as a surprise thing. He's not busy. They've made it a point to say it's a continuation. They obviously would have asked him and it wouldn't be a no.

Probably nothing huge, though.

[Sumac]

Doesn't look bad at all, I'll definitely give it a go. I have no problem with "the message" as long as it's well written, and the original QL was always woke and could get unbearably preachy sometimes looking back.
There is world of difference between "woke" than and "woke" now.

[superstaff]

There is world of difference between "woke" than and "woke" now.

I don't think the original was woke...

A little preachy maybe, but not woke.

I think people are beginning to misuse what woke actually means. Sigh.

[oldmanwinters]

A look at the stunningly bold and diverse cast:

https://cosmicbook.news/sites/default/files/quantum-leap-reboot-diverse-non-binary-cast.jpg

https://cosmicbook.news/quantum-leap-diverse-non-binary-cast?fbclid=IwAR1Ry90gRbq4vbvbrIt7skq4O6H86ZjX-9UnWbB-MOP1Fa6Kz4fnLAEkjIg

Applicable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V5iWXB4Xtk#t=43s

[superstaff]

Plot details for the reboot...:

https://deadline.com/2022/06/quantum-leap-nbc-expanded-details-reboot-plotline-1235054476/

“Everything changes, however, when Ben makes an unauthorized leap into the past, leaving the team behind to solve the mystery of why he did it. At Ben’s side throughout his leaps is Addison (Caitlin Bassett), who appears in the form of a hologram only Ben can see and hear. She’s a decorated Army veteran who brings level-headed precision to her job.

At the helm of the highly confidential operation is Herbert “Magic” Williams (Ernie Hudson), a no-nonsense career military man who has to answer to his bosses who won’t be happy once they learn about the breach of protocol. The rest of the team at headquarters includes Ian Wright (Mason Alexander Park), who runs the Artificial Intelligence unit “Ziggy,” and Jenn Chou (Nanrisa Lee), who heads up digital security for the project.

As Ben leaps from life to life, putting right what once went wrong, it becomes clear that he and the team are on a thrilling journey. However, Addison, Magic, Ian and Jenn know that if they are going to solve the mystery of Ben’s leap and bring him home, they must act fast or lose him forever.”

So...Ernie Hudson's character, Magic, won't be Ben's 'Al' after all. That is super disappointing. Not only was Magic a legacy character, I think Ernie Hudson was an excellent choice for someone that could potentially match Dean Stockwell's charm and likability in the role of the leaper's companion.

Blah.

[Vegita-San]

Agreed on that one. wanna bet it's the 'non binary' cast member?

[superstaff]

wanna bet it's the 'non binary' cast member?

It's not, actually.

[mrmaczaps]

Plot details for the reboot...:

https://deadline.com/2022/06/quantum-leap-nbc-expanded-details-reboot-plotline-1235054476/



So...Ernie Hudson's character, Magic, won't be Ben's 'Al' after all. That is super disappointing. Not only was Magic a legacy character, I think Ernie Hudson was an excellent choice for someone that could potentially match Dean Stockwell's charm and likability in the role of the leaper's companion.

Blah.

Wait, Ernie is playing the guy Sam leapt into in Nam? What the heck for? And wouldn't he be a ton older now than he is? Or are the retconning the war?

[superstaff]

Wait, Ernie is playing the guy Sam leapt into in Nam? What the heck for? And wouldn't he be a ton older now than he is? Or are the retconning the war?

Let's see... Ernie Hudson is 76. Herbert (Magic) was at least 18-21 in 1970. At the youngest ( 18 ), he'd have been born in 1952, making him 70. Seems to match up, more or less.

[Andrew NDB]

Let's see... Ernie Hudson is 76.

Is he really? Older than Murray and Aykroyd? Jesus... I thought he was like 60, barely, and like 5-10 years younger than them.

[superstaff]

Is he really? Older than Murray and Aykroyd? Jesus... I thought he was like 60, barely, and like 5-10 years younger than them.

According to Wikipedia:

Born: December 17, 1945 (age 76 years)

[Leo656]

Black Don't Crack, playa.

[mrmaczaps]

Let's see... Ernie Hudson is 76. Herbert (Magic) was at least 18-21 in 1970. At the youngest ( 18 ), he'd have been born in 1952, making him 70. Seems to match up, more or less.

Oh wow. Thats crazy.

Thanks for doing the math. Still seems rather weird/random to have Magic working at the Project though...

[superstaff]

Black Don't Crack, playa.

YEP. :lol:

Oh wow. Thats crazy.

Thanks for doing the math. Still seems rather weird/random to have Magic working at the Project though...

Nah. He's military like Al was, and Project Quantum Leap is a secret government project, lol.

[Andrew NDB]

So Bakula was offered a part, at least in the pilot, and turned it down.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/bakula-responds-to-new-quantum-leap/

[mrmaczaps]

Is it ONLY on NBCs streaming app or actually on NBC too?

[ZariusTwo]

So Bakula was offered a part, at least in the pilot, and turned it down.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/bakula-responds-to-new-quantum-leap/

I think he's going to play 'wait and see' a bit, if the show is a big hit, he might reconsider, or hold out for bigger bucks

[Andrew NDB]

I think he's going to play 'wait and see' a bit, if the show is a big hit, he might reconsider, or hold out for bigger bucks

Of course. It was probably an insultingly low sum. If the show is a hit they can come back at him with more money for something down the road.

[mrmaczaps]

Of course. It was probably an insultingly low sum. If the show is a hit they can come back at him with more money for something down the road.

Can't have them find Dr Becket within the very first season... thats half the idea of the show now... where is Dr Becket... lol. If it does well, they might ask again or if it tanks, they'll beg him. Haha

[oldmanwinters]

They better at least have one episode already written about "making right what once went wrong" with the tagline at the end of the final episode of the original series that "Dr. Beckett never returned home."

A couple of thoughts come to my mind watching this trailer:
2pdCsC8OzH4

The 1984 San Francisco 49ers went 15-1 under Montana... what could have possibly gone wrong enough that somebody needed to leap into Joe after halftime? The only game the 49ers lost that season was at home against the Pittsburg Steelers, but the 49ers wore their "home" red jerseys that day, so probably not that one. Seems like it would be a rare occasions for the 49ers to wear white "away" shirts at home.

Also...
It's pretty unusual that individual players would get announced by name coming out to play the 2nd half.

[ZariusTwo]

So it's premiered. Thoughts?

This has more of a myth arc this time around, and has a recurring 'big bad' in Al's daughter

[oldmanwinters]

I saw it. It was… serviceable? I can’t say I really care if Ben ever leaps back home.

[mrmaczaps]

Giving this clusterf*ck a shot right now... lol.

Already hate it. Lol

[oldmanwinters]

If you just compare this show's pilot/premiere to the original Quantum Leap's pilot, it's embarrassingly bad.

The original Quantum Leap's 2-part debut: "Genesis: September 13, 1956" is good enough to be a low-budget film. It's got suspense, spectacle, and engages the view to care about the characters (Sam & Al, but also the temporal guest stars) and their struggles, even though we don't know much about them yet. It is never even clear "why" Sam is there or what he has to accomplish until he actually does it, a culmination of the bond he's formed with the people he's spent time with. And even with all the military stock footage, it's still a spectacle: pioneer fighter jets busting the sound barrier. As the viewer, you're right there with Sam when he thinks Al might be the Devil. And even as overwhelmed as Sam & Al got, you could tell they had some fun with the whole experience (maybe Al more than Sam), being a major breakthrough in their scientific work. And then he gets to have a mini-episode right at the end which finally gives him a chance to talk to his long deceased father. Who wouldn't love to have that experience, even if you had to run through a proverbial hell barefoot to get it?

The new premiere has... characters and a story. Perfectly fine. But there's no suspense, and I hardly even cared if Ben prevented that down-on-his-luck hood from getting shot or not.

The closest thing to spectacle it had was the police chase (and considering the big reveal, maybe the police let the bank robbers get away?) and the literal bomb exploding at the end. Other than that... a lot of standing around talking or riding in cars.

The most interesting thing was not the 1985 leap but the backstory with Ernie Hudon's "Magic" (nice call back to the original series) and Ben's mysterious contact who seems to be closely connected to Al, may he rest in peace.

You can immediately tell the new Leap is trying to get the viewer interested to commit to watching a full season whilst the original was so good that it gave you a complete emotional arc out of the gate, and it was rewarding enough to keep you tuning in for the next leap.

EDIT:
I'm not a fan of Colbert's recent stuff, but this might still be a better reboot:
R0ScMs6_I8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0ScMs6_I8s

[Andrew NDB]

I'm not a fan of Colbert's recent stuff

There's nothing to be a fan of. The guy stopped even trying to be a comedian about 50 Trump "bombshells" ago and is now just an unabashedly -- bad -- political commentator.

[oldmanwinters]

I've heard the NBC ratings for the New Leap premiere were not impressive. Maybe don't launch a show the same night as an NFL Monday Night Football dual-header with one of the games being on ABC (even if both were blowouts)? But even among the non-football programming, the show clearly has an uphill climb and probably not much time to save itself from cancellation, or maybe it'll become Peacock exclusive?
https://tvline.com/2022/09/20/tv-ratings-quantum-leap-reboot-premiere-nbc/
https://nypost.com/2022/09/19/quantum-leap-review-reboot-doesnt-have-time-on-its-side/
https://www.indiewire.com/2022/08/nbc-primetime-hour-wins-ratings-1234756063/

[Jester]

I'm a little biased towards the original pilot because it features my "cousin" Bruce McGill. :tgrin:

[oldmanwinters]

I'm a little biased towards the original pilot because it features my "cousin" Bruce McGill. :tgrin:

See, that’s what made it all come together!

[ChosenOne]

The original was one of my favorite shows growing up. Is nothing sacred anymore?

[oldmanwinters]

The original was one of my favorite shows growing up. Is nothing sacred anymore?

Maybe among fanbases and some of the original cast, but in the eyes of corporate executives, nothing ever was.

[member_removed]

Did they keep the OG theme tune?

[oldmanwinters]

There are classic music cues throughout but no intro theme sequence, as those seem to have fallen out of favor for dramas.

[Jester]

I've been slowly working through the original series and I'm only on episode 5. Episode 5 features Sam leaping into a veterinarian who gets caught up in a game to marry a tough as nails female Rancher named Tess McGill( no relation). The whole premise of the episode is to get him to woo Tess and marry her, but if we learned anything from Wonder Woman 1984 this is problematic. So I'm beginning to wonder what they're going to do with the new Quantum Leap when this situation comes up and the new guy leaves into somebody who's got to fall in love with a woman. In fact how is it going to work when not Sam leaps into somebody who's a person of color or a woman in this one. In the original series it seems like Sam leaping into a woman was played for laughs but that's also problematic nowadays. I'm not sure how the show is going to work

[oldmanwinters]

I've been slowly working through the original series and I'm only on episode 5. Episode 5 features Sam leaping into a veterinarian who gets caught up in a game to marry a tough as nails female Rancher named Tess McGill( no relation). The whole premise of the episode is to get him to woo Tess and marry her, but if we learned anything from Wonder Woman 1984 this is problematic.

I always figured the leaped-in souls who return to their bodies after Sam's adventures at perhaps the most pivotal moment of their lives had to have been in for rude awakenings!

Did we as a culture really learn any lessons from WW84?

[MrPliggins]

I watched the first episode and thought it was passable. I think there’s a missed opportunity in Ernie Hudson not playing the Al character, and I’m not a big fan of the love interest subplot. I also wonder if we’ll see more back at the project in this show. In the old show the focus was on Sam and Al. People at the project were often mentioned but never seen. Seeing them often may take away from the leap story, although Ernie is probably my favorite actor on the show. Hard to judge completely from one episode but I’ll keep watching for now.

[Leo656]

Did we as a culture really learn any lessons from WW84?

Furries are probably hotter on paper than they would be in real life? :lol:

[oldmanwinters]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJCCGNCjz_D/Furries are probably hotter on paper than they would be in real life? :lol:

I will grant you that one.

Weirdly, I have yet to see WW84 but I always feel like I have due to reading/watching summaries and critiques.

[Leo656]

Actually that photo has me second-guessing my statement. :lol: "Mrowr" indeed!

[oldmanwinters]

Actually that photo has me second-guessing my statement. :lol: "Mrowr" indeed!

(I was trying to hyperlink that in my response to imply some humor but trying to post on a tablet seems to limit my html options.)

It's sad how dedicated fans can just about always cosplay better than a multi-million dollar studio budget can CGI something.

[oldmanwinters]

Episode 2 had more in he “spectacle” department. Back story may or may not prove interesting. They debuted the show’s intro this week; it kinda stinks.

[Andrew NDB]

The showrunner wants Bakula all right.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/quantum-leap-showrunner-wants-bakula/

[Mayhem]

I'm a little biased towards the original pilot because it features my "cousin" Bruce McGill. :tgrin:
He was in the last episode as well, of course.

[Jester]

He was in the last episode as well, of course.

Also true. You'd be surprised where good ole Cousin Bruce shows up.

[Jester]

I just started the second season. I'm on episode 4 where Sam first leaps into a woman also named Sam. I do wonder if they understand that with the new show based on the same universe people might go back to the original series and some of those people may look at the old series and be appalled by some of the plot lines. Watching episode 4 of season 2 through that lens I can't help but laugh at what probably would be going through the minds of certain people. It's an episode that establishes that Al doesn't see Sam when he looks at the person he lept into like we do he sees that person and so Al is immediately attracted to the woman because you know in the original Quantum Leap Al is lecherous womanizer. He even sees the company shrink who tells him that him falling for Sam as girl Sam is brought on by his repressed homosexual urges. All things that nowadays would probably be considered problematic considering Sam and drag is played for laughs at times. Again mostly Playing devil's advocate here.

[mrmaczaps]

I just started the second season. I'm on episode 4 where Sam first leaps into a woman also named Sam. I do wonder if they understand that with the new show based on the same universe people might go back to the original series and some of those people may look at the old series and be appalled by some of the plot lines. Watching episode 4 of season 2 through that lens I can't help but laugh at what probably would be going through the minds of certain people. It's an episode that establishes that Al doesn't see Sam when he looks at the person he lept into like we do he sees that person and so Al is immediately attracted to the woman because you know in the original Quantum Leap Al is lecherous womanizer. He even sees the company shrink who tells him that him falling for Sam as girl Sam is brought on by his repressed homosexual urges. All things that nowadays would probably be considered problematic considering Sam and drag is played for laughs at times. Again mostly Playing devil's advocate here.

The original series is likely to be found offensive by the modern unhinged lunatic left. Soon it will likely be censored, full episodes removed or stuck with some sort of warning label. This is why I don't rely on digital only versions of entertainment.

[Andrew NDB]

I just started the second season. I'm on episode 4 where Sam first leaps into a woman also named Sam. I do wonder if they understand that with the new show based on the same universe people might go back to the original series and some of those people may look at the old series and be appalled by some of the plot lines. Watching episode 4 of season 2 through that lens I can't help but laugh at what probably would be going through the minds of certain people. It's an episode that establishes that Al doesn't see Sam when he looks at the person he lept into like we do he sees that person and so Al is immediately attracted to the woman because you know in the original Quantum Leap Al is lecherous womanizer. He even sees the company shrink who tells him that him falling for Sam as girl Sam is brought on by his repressed homosexual urges. All things that nowadays would probably be considered problematic considering Sam and drag is played for laughs at times. Again mostly Playing devil's advocate here.

Good. I hope it does offend.

[oldmanwinters]

I just started the second season. I'm on episode 4 where Sam first leaps into a woman also named Sam. I do wonder if they understand that with the new show based on the same universe people might go back to the original series and some of those people may look at the old series and be appalled by some of the plot lines. Watching episode 4 of season 2 through that lens I can't help but laugh at what probably would be going through the minds of certain people. It's an episode that establishes that Al doesn't see Sam when he looks at the person he lept into like we do he sees that person and so Al is immediately attracted to the woman because you know in the original Quantum Leap Al is lecherous womanizer. He even sees the company shrink who tells him that him falling for Sam as girl Sam is brought on by his repressed homosexual urges. All things that nowadays would probably be considered problematic considering Sam and drag is played for laughs at times. Again mostly Playing devil's advocate here.

I really miss the days when drag was played for laughs.

Also true. You'd be surprised where good ole Cousin Bruce shows up.

Comments from the show's headrunner on the McGill casting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=764KR3TVMgs&t=09m23s

[oldmanwinters]

Ain’t looking good for the new “hit show”:
https://cosmicbook.news/quantum-leap-ratings-loses-200k-viewers?fbclid=IwAR0n2v_KxmBqD5jEh-RkK4gHYCrgokyj7WLCvFifLvzyVz7Dsziwj9ml47A

[Jester]

Ain’t looking good for the new “hit show”:
https://cosmicbook.news/quantum-leap-ratings-loses-200k-viewers?fbclid=IwAR0n2v_KxmBqD5jEh-RkK4gHYCrgokyj7WLCvFifLvzyVz7Dsziwj9ml47A

https://media0.giphy.com/media/N4pcSOVYjN5sZ3RBFm/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b95298e6ee25742f8102d9114e72406 240a51c2c92d2&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g

[Sumac]

How soon they gonna cry that show was too progressive for its own good?

As if it stopped OG Quantum Leap from being successful 40 years ago.

[ZariusTwo]

Six more episodes have been ordered

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/quantum-leap-scores-additional-episode-order-at-nbc-exclusive-1235238257/

This might be doing better on streaming than it is in regular ratings.

[mrmaczaps]

Six more episodes have been ordered

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/quantum-leap-scores-additional-episode-order-at-nbc-exclusive-1235238257/

This might be doing better on streaming than it is in regular ratings.

Its going to get canned. It lacks the charm of the original series and there is way too much focus on their present and the cast is overblown, like nearly every remake of a classic 80s/90s series has been lately... the OG QL had a main cast of 2 and more than that is too many friggen people. And I never remember when its on so... lol. I don't even care at this point.

[oldmanwinters]

Six more episodes have been ordered

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/quantum-leap-scores-additional-episode-order-at-nbc-exclusive-1235238257/

This might be doing better on streaming than it is in regular ratings.

Its going to get canned. It lacks the charm of the original series and there is way too much focus on their present and the cast is overblown, like nearly every remake of a classic 80s/90s series has been lately... the OG QL had a main cast of 2 and more than that is too many friggen people. And I never remember when its on so... lol. I don't even care at this point.

Last night's episode really leaned hard into The Leap Hope Part 2 from the original series, even showing stock footage from the original episode (but no shots of Sam or Al, so far as I could tell).

[mrmaczaps]

Last night's episode really leaned hard into The Leap Hope Part 2 from the original series, even showing stock footage from the original episode (but no shots of Sam or Al, so far as I could tell).

I had the time today, so I watched it. It was really the only part of the episode that was halfway decent but the other actor(/actress?) kind of ruined it for me... I wish the series had less cast members... their leaper, their hologram & maybe 2 others would be more than enough yet there are at least 8 people plus the characters from whatever past they're in... the lack of a date/time stamp on screen is odd too. So many little things they could have used or brought back that they didn't...

[oldmanwinters]

I had the time today, so I watched it. It was really the only part of the episode that was halfway decent but the other actor(/actress?) kind of ruined it for me... I wish the series had less cast members... their leaper, their hologram & maybe 2 others would be more than enough yet there are at least 8 people plus the characters from whatever past they're in... the lack of a date/time stamp on screen is odd too. So many little things they could have used or brought back that they didn't...

Quite a bit to process, indeed.

[ZariusTwo]

A little bit political, but funny

https://twitter.com/pipmadeley/status/1580952656558051329?t=tlzK3PppgbU6cCzyxRCdAQ&s=19

[oldmanwinters]

This might be doing better on streaming than it is in regular ratings.

Anything to justify those price hikes!
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/paramount-ceo-bob-bakish-streaming-pricing-is-going-to-go-up-152215108.html

I imagine Peacock ain't doing so hot relative to the other streaming platforms.

So in this week's wild west episode, Ben meets his first fellow-time traveler at the very end. Most folks speculate it's a continuation of the "Evil Leaper" storyline from the original series (which apparently, the show's producer Bellisario never cared for), but I actually took it as actually being Sam Beckett in a bad mood or something. Eh... guess I'll have to keep watching this series... reluctantly. I'm already sick of the "long distance" romance between the show's two leads after only one episode of it being out in the open.

[oldmanwinters]

I almost hate to say it but...

I liked last night's Halloween-ish exorcism episode.

Maybe it was because a "glitch" in the quantum field prevented Allison from having a constant presence in Ben's story, but it felt like this episode did the best so-far of drawing the viewer into the "leap scenario" to the point where you actually get invested in the characters and their problems. Felt a bit like one of the old QL episodes, particularly season 3's "The Boogieman".

And the reveal at the end when Janis reveals herself worked pretty well as a cliff hanger that tied up some loose ends of the episode's story without being a distraction.

[mrmaczaps]

The show needs more focus on the events of the past & a whole lot less on any of the "present" cast/events. And more Ziggy. The OG show was Sam, Al & smacking the handlink. We only ever got glimpses of Al's present & thats half the reason it worked so well. The show is too cast heavy currently & he show is suffering like most shows because of it. This earthquake episode wasn't terrible though... just it won't last by being not terrible. Lol.

[oldmanwinters]

This video is interesting:
JPqtu4pfE7M

I wonder if the "Martinez" is somehow related to Tina (https://quantumleap.fandom.com/wiki/Tina_Martinez) from the original series.

[oldmanwinters]

Man, they were really going for that Emmy-nominated "important episode (https://www.cinemablend.com/interviews/quantum-leap-writer-says-nbc-agreed-to-transgender-storyline-in-primetime-with-no-hesitation)" last night. A stream of one monologue after another, but it was actually the audience being lectured.

[Sumac]

Obviously modern version of QL will pander to transmutants.

[Andrew NDB]

CANCELLED.

https://deadline.com/2024/04/quantum-leap-canceled-nbc-2-seasons-1235877093/?fbclid=IwAR3uMQpGt72XnTOhIqZrI2SsrZgx3_XpbwyaJ1n8 GZyUWrx8UtrdeZbh6NE_aem_AQWOPNa5ntPrwz3wsk-KIBTMBEqbQ3BsLnzf75AnIvFoEV5BshjsopB9LA4DSf5jst0li f1sSR5OXImR9QdTaBZm

[oldmanwinters]

Haven’t seen more than 2 eps of season 2 but I’m surprised it lasted for as long as it did. Hope it at least found its new generation audience, because I doubt it won over many older fans of the original show.

[Andrew NDB]

Hope it at least found its new generation audience

Obviously not.

because I doubt it won over many older fans of the original show.

It's funny, the only people I ever saw talking about it were people who were older fans of the original show. And it was basically two groups. The first group, they stick around waiting for it to get good and for the characters to become likeable. The second group, basically the same but with an added layer of the typical sort of catty/defensive "but at least I'm glad it's pissing off the right people!" stuff on top.

[Coola Yagami]

Hope it at least found its new generation audience, because I doubt it won over many older fans of the original show.

The optimism is appreciated but most of the time these modern remakes of classic shows bomb because they catered to an audience that doesn't exist.

I just don't get why so many people feel getting the rights to a pre-existing property only to piss off its existing fanbase while the 'new audience' they're looking for just doesn't care because most weren't around for the original is such a good idea. Like they don't stop and look at the long list of bombs and cancelled shows and think to themselves 'you know.... maybe let's not do it that way'.

[ZariusTwo]

Scott Backula refusing to back it or grace it with an appearance or two just worsened it's chances.

[Andrew NDB]

Scott Backula refusing to back it or grace it with an appearance or two just worsened it's chances.

I get that, but I don't think so. The people hoping for Bakula were already watching. Sadly, maybe those were the only people watching.

[Coola Yagami]

I think part of the problem is tv people have been conditioned to place virtue signaling and diversity points above ratings and money. Like even if the show wasn't overly diverse and had good stories and likeable characters, and it got big ratings, they'd still be open to hit pieces and the twitter mob complaining. Even if a new Quantum Leap 'done right' made numbers, there would be people complaining and saying it would have made even more money if only they added more diversity into it.