Freedom Convoy 2022

[Coola Yagami]

Sorry but this is a part of history. If you take this down you're no better than Facebook and Youtube and the Canadian government trying to censor and cover this up.

I admit I got a little heated and got carried away with my language. I'll keep this civil. But this is something happening WORLDWIDE and is a piece of history. You simply can't ignore this.



Anyways, police are making whatever arrests they can. While some are just order-following goons, there are a lot of em out there that hate doing this and some even quit.

Citizens are currently sneaking fuel in to the truckers and some cops are either returning the fuel or choosing to look the other way on it. They do what they can but they have to stay neutral.

Rumor have been said last night that riot police are on their way, that remains to be seen.

[Andrew NDB]

I notice, not one articular about it on CNN. Like it's not even happening. Probably easier than pretending its a bunch of nazis.

[neatoman]

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[FredWolfLeonardo]

What will the truckers do once they are shown the barrel? As far as I'm aware, most are not combat ready.

[Coola Yagami]

I notice, not one articular about it on CNN. Like it's not even happening. Probably easier than pretending its a bunch of nazis.

This case is the perfect example of not trusting big media and going to alternate media for the real scoop.

Last night on a live steam some people admitted to being interviewed (while hiding any logos of what news station they were with) and when they were unable to get the guy to say he was antivax or antimask or part of any movement for that juicy soundbite for their narrative and would lose all interest when they couldn't.

[Coola Yagami]

What will the truckers do once they are shown the barrel? As far as I'm aware, most are not combat ready.

Just not work. They can bring the country to a standstill. All truckers are in on this. If they shoot and arrest em, noone will take their place that won't also continue the protest.

[Sumac]

Its kind of strange to suggest that truckers are "privileged" and that BLM was aiming to help anyone, but grifters at the head of its movement.

[Leo656]

Don't forget, if you lean Conservative you're Secret Gay. Apparently. :lol:

I've been saying for over ten years, we need to just stop letting new people in here.

[Andrew NDB]

Don't forget, if you lean Conservative you're Secret Gay. Apparently. :lol:

At the very least, scared of gay people.

[Jester]

Sorry but this is a part of history. If you take this down you're no better than Facebook and Youtube and the Canadian government trying to censor and cover this up.

I admit I got a little heated and got carried away with my language. I'll keep this civil. But this is something happening WORLDWIDE and is a piece of history. You simply can't ignore this.

You weren't alone. Both sides need to knockoff the name calling and "insinuation". Despite the arguably historic nature of this protest I will take action again if need be.

[Coola Yagami]

Ok guys, so let's keep it civil and stick to reporting news and updates and overall opinions without insulting each other.

Again, I admit, I was an asshole there, but I'll keep things civil from my end.

Update- lots of truckers are losing their social media. These guys are trying every dirty trick in the book. Rumors that they might cut all phone and internet service in Ottawa to bring ire towards the truckers.

[oldmanwinters]

I notice, not one articular about it on CNN. Like it's not even happening. Probably easier than pretending its a bunch of nazis.

I think I woke up to a HLN report ("The Robin Meade" show, maybe?) on it this week and she was talking about how it was an illegal gathering and mentioning "reports" (uncited) of various people being intimidated by the convoy folks.

[Coola Yagami]

I think I woke up to a HLN report ("The Robin Meade" show, maybe?) on it this week and she was talking about how it was an illegal gathering and mentioning "reports" (uncited) of various people being intimidated by the convoy folks.

Maybe they were afraid of the free burgers and sausages they were grilling, or the bouncy castles were too scary lol

Gotta love Fake News Media.

[Sumac]

I think I woke up to a HLN report ("The Robin Meade" show, maybe?) on it this week and she was talking about how it was an illegal gathering and mentioning "reports" (uncited) of various people being intimidated by the convoy folks.
Basically the same reason why any protests and demonstrations are banned in Russia. Except demonstrations and celebrations, which support Putin, of course.

Its like certain people believe that COVID can somehow differentiate between people on their side and everyone else. So much for "logic and science".

[Coola Yagami]

Basically the same reason why any protests and demonstrations are banned in Russia. Except demonstrations and celebrations, which support Putin, of course.

Its like certain people believe that COVID can somehow differentiate between people on their side and everyone else. So much for "logic and science".

CoVid is barely a thing anymore. All these huge gatherings for 11 days or so straight and no one's gotten sick.


In other news, it's now official almost if not all tow companies in Canada have refused to tow any of these trucks. There's not much anyone can do now. Sure, use violence and arrest them, the trucks will just be left lying around clogging up traffic and bridges and whatnot. No one will be there to move them. This is a case where literal ALL TRUCKERS are in on this. If the police arrests them, which they can't get them all, they're shooting themselves in the foot since there will be no one to deliver anything. The police themselves will be ****ing up their own groceries.

[Coola Yagami]

Alberta is dropping mask mandates for kids at school as of midnight tonight and proof of vaccination is also ending there. It's starting to happen guys.

Apparently America is taking notes and might start doing the same, though they'll never admit it was due to the truckers in Canada.

Facebook has been taking down any type of posts relating to possible truck convoys in America too.

[Andrew NDB]

Basically all the blue states are getting ready to ease back all COVID mandates... just in time for Biden's state of the union where he can announce he has defeated the virus. They're all in on it.

[IMJ]

Basically all the blue states are getting ready to ease back all COVID mandates... just in time for Biden's state of the union where he can announce he has defeated the virus. They're all in on it.

Or more accurately they will just sense the movement and onboard with it. Not an honest or genuine thinker among 'em, other than the ability to find ways to destroy lives, cancel and blame.

[Coola Yagami]

Volunteer firemen have been giving fuel to the truckers.

Apparently some of Trudeau's top security are resigning with disgust. Several cops have quit, they did not sign up to mess with old people that aren't really doing anything wrong.

[Leo656]

Yeah, like I said elsewhere, over here Murphy got re-elected (nobody really believes it was legit; it's NJ, it's pretty much an open secret that the "Italians" pick who gets to be governor) by promising to extend the mandates and restrictions and all of that. Now he's gone completely the other way, talking about getting rid of all the mandates and saying "It's time to send kids back to school, without masks." He says people should be left alone if they WANT to wear masks but that nobody should be forced to anymore.

My gym went back to mandatory masks for like two weeks, until Murphy officially said it wasn't mandatory anymore, then it stopped. You see like two or three old/fat people at the gym still wearing them, but if given the choice it's pretty clear everyone is over it.

As one might predict, the super-left and scared of their own shadow types are like, "I don't knoowwwwwwww... I don't feel safe yet!" :roll: Some of the parents are screeching "They're trying to kill our kids!" by saying they don't have to mask in schools, meanwhile 1. Most of the kids are not wearing N95 masks anyway, and every single "expert" has now openly admitted that all other masks are f*cking worthless, and 2. I forget if it was 12 or 18, but that's exactly how many people under the age of 18 have died in NJ from Covid since this whole ordeal began two years ago. 18 at most, ALL of whom had serious health issues which meant they probably wouldn't have lived much longer anyway. So no, they're NOT "trying to kill your kids". Morons.

It's s l o w l y all coming around. NOBODY signed up for this sh*t indefinitely, and after two years people have had enough. Especially now that it's endemic, and the secret's out that only the fat and the old ever had anything to truly fear in the first place.

I seriously think it's all thanks to Spider-Man. :lol: Millions of people "risked" going to the movies for the first time in years, packed the theaters, many of them went multiple times, and nobody got sick or died as a result. I mean, after THAT what more can be said? If this thing were as dangerous as we've been led to believe, that would have been a "super-spreader event" the likes of which we've never seen. When that didn't come to pass, people finally realized, "Oh, yeah, I guess it's actually not that dangerous out there."

Like I've been saying since the beginning, you can lie to people and program them all you want, but when they see with their own two eyes what's really going on, everything else goes out the window.

The greater problem becomes, the public trust in the mainstream media has been irreparably broken by this entire ordeal, to the point where I feel like "conspiracy theorists" and people who insist on getting their news from "alternative sources" - and the sometimes nutty things they come up with - are only going to get worse and dig in deeper. Because what's the alternative? Believe what they say on TV? You can't. We've SEEN that play out in real time. So... now what?

[Sumac]

In other news, it's now official almost if not all tow companies in Canada have refused to tow any of these trucks. There's not much anyone can do now. Sure, use violence and arrest them, the trucks will just be left lying around clogging up traffic and bridges and whatnot. No one will be there to move them. This is a case where literal ALL TRUCKERS are in on this. If the police arrests them, which they can't get them all, they're shooting themselves in the foot since there will be no one to deliver anything. The police themselves will be ****ing up their own groceries.
And I assume, pardon my lack of knowledge of Canada laws, if someone else, but truckers will try to remove them, they might sue those people and services.

I wouldn't be so haste to proclaim that no-one got sick, but the problem is with the amount of lies from pretty much every single side involved, it is impossible to discern the truth. As such, does it really matter anymore?
Basically everyone for themselves now.

[Coola Yagami]

And I assume, pardon my lack of knowledge of Canada laws, if someone else, but truckers will try to remove them, they might sue those people and services.

I wouldn't be so haste to proclaim that no-one got sick, but the problem is with the amount of lies from pretty much every single side involved, it is impossible to discern the truth. As such, does it really matter anymore?
Basically everyone for themselves now.

True but you don't exactly hear about tons of truckers rushed to the emergency room due to CoVid. They're either not getting sick or not getting sick enough to stop.

I'm watching a livestream, one of the truckers made the remark that it's funny how everyone is wearing masks and keeping 6 feet away from each other, and they still catch CoVid, but they got hugs gatherings with hugging and dancing and whatnot and nobody is getting sick.

The cops are apparently turning against each other, basically the ones that blindly follow orders and the ones that are like 'yeah, this **** ain't right' and turn in their badges or ignore the truckers.

[Bahamut810]

And I assume, pardon my lack of knowledge of Canada laws, if someone else, but truckers will try to remove them, they might sue those people and services.

I wouldn't be so haste to proclaim that no-one got sick, but the problem is with the amount of lies from pretty much every single side involved, it is impossible to discern the truth. As such, does it really matter anymore?
Basically everyone for themselves now.

Kind of hope this happens if arrests start.

Step 1: Get your trucks out there.
Step 2: Get arrested and truck cant be towed.
Step 3: no one is willing to tow.
Step 4: Sue due to the policy that caused the arrest.

They will be getting it from both sides at that point.

[Coola Yagami]

Kind of hope this happens if arrests start.

Step 1: Get your trucks out there.
Step 2: Get arrested and truck cant be towed.
Step 3: no one is willing to tow.
Step 4: Sue due to the policy that caused the arrest.

They will be getting it from both sides at that point.

I hope they block all the bridges when they leave the trucks behind. Block everything for as long as possible since no one is willing to tow.

[Andrew NDB]

Kind of hope this happens if arrests start.

Step 1: Get your trucks out there.
Step 2: Get arrested and truck cant be towed.
Step 3: no one is willing to tow.
Step 4: Sue due to the policy that caused the arrest.

They will be getting it from both sides at that point.

Not a bad strategy, really. As long as all parties commit.

[Mayhem]

From the news reports here, from a variety of stations in the UK (so across the general political spectrum), no one in Ottawa wants them there and they all want them to leave. That's the only solid jist I get.

Maybe I don't get the point of the protest? There's no general loss of freedom, Canadians aren't being detained and tortured for not following the rules (unlike say China) so it all feels like a big excuse to **** some **** up because they can.

As for Covid infections, well no one has reported anything on that, so you can't say for definite there's been none, because probably no one actually knows or has investigated it yet.

[Leo656]

All protests are stupid.

But if a bunch of morons can go smash windows and light fires because some junkie who once tried to shoot a pregnant woman in the stomach died in police custody (and F*ck That Guy Forever, by the way), because he just so happened to have a certain skin color that made him a convenient victim for the media's purposes, then these guys can have their fun too as far as I'm concerned. They have an infinitely better reason to stomp their feet and whine, at least. So good for 'em.

I have the good sense not to live in a country where they put beavers on the f*cking money, so it's no skin off my ass.

[Coola Yagami]

Maybe I don't get the point of the protest? There's no general loss of freedom, Canadians aren't being detained and tortured for not following the rules (unlike say China) so it all feels like a big excuse to **** some **** up because they can.


Mandates man. The country forcing you to put something in your body that you don't want or else you lose your job and get ostracized from society. You can't even fly out of Canada without your stupid vax papers. These guys are standing up against this two tier society people are trying to create. Plus Canada has been basically under lockdown for two years. It's time to stop.

It's simple. Drop the mandates or the truckers will bring the entire country to a halt. And once they do, other countries will point the finger to Canada's freedoms and will be forced to do the same. The government has had too much fun with the pandemic. All these mandates and restrictions will not end until we stand up as citizens and make them end.

And aside from the news lying as usual, the only people that don't want the truckers there are the tyrants in power and the sheep that don't care because it's not effecting them yet.

[Mayhem]

And aside from the news lying as usual, the only people that don't want the truckers there are the tyrants in power and the sheep that don't care because it's not effecting them yet.
Well that’s not strictly true if this Canadian transport union post is anything to go by :

https://teamsters.ca/en/blog/2022/02/07/the-real-enemy-for-truckers-is-covid-19/

The US had set the vaccine mandate for truckers in motion, so Canada followed to be consistent across the border. But the US has rolled their plan back, and Canada hasn't. I am presuming that’s the gist here?

[Coola Yagami]

That union post is a crybaby leftie calling everything he doesn't like 'alt-right' so that link is meaningless.

In other real news, the government is now considering sending their version of CPS to nab any kids at the protest 'for their own safety' despite them having no problem sending police to nab fuel a few days ago in 10 degree weather with the kids still there.

The government literally can't do anything as long as they're peaceful. They keep trying to push and push for violence. They haven't even considered talking to them. They're ****ing corrupt authoritarian cowards.

[Coola Yagami]

France is starting their own Freedom Convoy too.

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[The Deadman]

Maybe I don't get the point of the protest? There's no general loss of freedom, Canadians aren't being detained and tortured for not following the rules (unlike say China) so it all feels like a big excuse to **** some **** up because they can.


It's the whole being forced to get a vaccine or you lose this that or the other thing. If there's generally no loss of freedom and freedom is an honest choice, then people should be allowed to make their own decisions in what they put in their body.

[Anarchistguy]

Whatever happened to "My body, My choice"?

[The Deadman]

Whatever happened to "My body, My choice"?

That only exists if you want to get an abortion.

[Leo656]

Yeah, or if you wanna stick needles in your arm. Can't forget that one. :lol:

When it's abortion or being a junkie, Libs are all about "My body, my choice." Otherwise it's "What you do affects ALL of us, you selfish piece of sh*t!" :lol:

They tend to stomp their feet and roll their eyes and pout whenever confronted with such blatant hypocrisy. Always fun to watch!

[Sumac]

I am not against vaccines in general. Even if they are just mitigating illness and not curing it.
However, I am against separating people into two categories. Not to mention amount of lies and twists everyone and their chair spin around just to achieve whatever result they want.

Yeah, or if you wanna stick needles in your arm. Can't forget that one. :lol:

When it's abortion or being a junkie, Libs are all about "My body, my choice." Otherwise it's "What you do affects ALL of us, you selfish piece of sh*t!" :lol:

They tend to stomp their feet and roll their eyes and pout whenever confronted with such blatant hypocrisy. Always fun to watch!
Don't forget that when person wants to castrate themselves to please their mental illness, it is considered normal. If you try to save said person from irreparably mutilating themselves - you are a Nazi. :lol:

France is starting their own Freedom Convoy too.
French are known for their protests. Gonna be interesting to see how it'll go.

[Coola Yagami]

Nevada just dropped mask mandates. They'll never say it's due to the truckers in Canada though.

[IndigoErth]

I don't care if they want to protest and whatnot, but I wish they'd have decided to congest and block roads around government buildings (or employers?) and make it hard on the people actually making those decisions/demands, instead of negatively impacting people and their own jobs who have no involvement and no control or power over it.

Auto makers are now having to cancel shifts and reduce production due to lack of parts, etc. I see support for it being very short lived if this gets to hitting too many innocent people in the wallet and not the politicians and/or employers who it should be impacting. Could open up an awfully big chasm with fellow blue collar workers if that keeps up long.

[Coola Yagami]

I don't care if they want to protest and whatnot, but I wish they'd have decided to congest and block roads around government buildings (or employers?) and make it hard on the people actually making those decisions/demands, instead of negatively impacting people and their own jobs who have no involvement and no control or power over it.

Auto makers are now having to cancel shifts and reduce production due to lack of parts, etc. I see support for it being very short lived if this gets to hitting too many innocent people in the wallet and not the politicians and/or employers who it should be impacting. Could open up an awfully big chasm with fellow blue collar workers if that keeps up long.

Then they can do something about it. Blow up Trudope's phone and demand he drops the mandates. Not tomorrow, not after breakfast, but today.

[IndigoErth]

It isn't their jobs to change it for those truckers. Especially the U.S. Americans whose jobs are being impacted and losing income over it when they're just minding their own lives over here.

There are enough truckers, I'm pretty sure they can blow up the phones themselves. Or go make a big show where it will inconvenience those lawmakers and make it hard for THEM to get to and do their own jobs. Force them to have to sleep at their office or walk past many protestors just trying to get there because they can't get their car anywhere close.

[Coola Yagami]

It isn't their jobs to change it for those truckers. Especially the U.S. Americans whose jobs are being impacted and losing income over it when they're just minding their own lives over here.

There are enough truckers, I'm pretty sure they can blow up the phones themselves. Or go make a big show where it will inconvenience those lawmakers and make it hard for THEM to get to and do thier own jobs.

It's literally every Canadian's job to get Trudeau out. Anyone not doing so is against their own country.

[IndigoErth]

Cool, so you're ignoring that some U.S. jobs are starting to be impacted. Isn't that against your own country? It's not U.S. citizens job to handle the Canadian's issues.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/gm-cancels-two-shifts-lansing-plant-following-canadian-trucking-protests-2022-02-10/
A Toyota spokesman told Reuters the automaker was suspending production through Saturday at plants on both sides of the border, in Ontario and Kentucky.

Ford said... ...hoped for a quick resolution "because it could have widespread impact on all automakers in the U.S. and Canada."

Stellantis said some U.S. and Canadian plants cut short shifts on Thursday after many shortened shifts Wednesday night "due to parts shortages caused by the closure of the Detroit/Windsor bridge."

GM said it was forced to halt production Thursday at a Michigan plant where it builds sport utility vehicles after the protests.

The largest U.S. automaker said it had canceled a shift on Wednesday and two shifts Thursday at its Lansing Delta Township plant.

Can't wait until some prices get even worse because they choose to block roads instead of government buildings. Those politicians who have all the say won't give a damn if it hurts regular people who don't. They mgiht care when it comes to elections down the road, but people's current paychecks? Nope.


I remember back when auto manufacturing and the workers were seen as one of the utmost American things needing to be protected and saved. Must be nice for those who work from home to just shrug nowadays.

[Coola Yagami]

Cool, so you're ignoring that some U.S. jobs are starting to be impacted. Isn't that against your own country? It's not U.S. citizens job to handle the Canadian's issues.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/gm-cancels-two-shifts-lansing-plant-following-canadian-trucking-protests-2022-02-10/




Can't wait until some prices get even worse because they choose to block roads instead of government buildings. Those politicians who have all the say won't give a damn if it hurts regular people who don't. They mgiht care when it comes to elections down the road, but people's current paychecks? Nope.

America is considering starting their own convoys too. It's just a matter of, if they want the truckers to go home and not impact anybody, then just drop the mandates. Like I said, they can bring the country to an absolute standstill if they want to.

It's up to Trudeau to make like Wanda and say "No More Mandates".

Besides most of these people complaining had no issue pointing and laughing at those who lost their jobs and livelihoods over the mandates. Forgive me if I don't care that it's finally becoming 'their problem'.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

My prediction is that ultimately, the military will get involved and all protestors will get silenced. The protestors are not well armed or combat trained, and will learn the reality that in the end, force always wins out.

The only reason as to why the protests have reached to this point in places like Canada is because the government has allowed them to, since the governments of "the free world" have to pretend to be for freedom of assembly unlike places like China where protests like these don't happen. However, if the protests become too much of a nuisance, action will be taken.

[Coola Yagami]

They can't and they won't. The reason they keep pushing, is because until the truckers become violent, their hands are tied. The truckers understand this and will remain peaceful no matter what. The know the world is watching and if they fall so will everyone else, so they won't stop.

Unless the military knows how to do the truckers job and deliver groceries and packages, they can't do ****.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

They know the world is watching and if they fall so will everyone else, so they won't stop.

So? Almost the entire world is enforcing vaccine mandates so Canada won't have to answer to them if they take military action against the protests.

[Sumac]

I don't care if they want to protest and whatnot, but I wish they'd have decided to congest and block roads around government buildings (or employers?) and make it hard on the people actually making those decisions/demands, instead of negatively impacting people and their own jobs who have no involvement and no control or power over it.

Auto makers are now having to cancel shifts and reduce production due to lack of parts, etc. I see support for it being very short lived if this gets to hitting too many innocent people in the wallet and not the politicians and/or employers who it should be impacting. Could open up an awfully big chasm with fellow blue collar workers if that keeps up long.
"But protest SHOULD BE disruptive!!!"

My prediction is that ultimately, the military will get involved and all protestors will get silenced. The protestors are not well armed or combat trained, and will learn the reality that in the end, force always wins out.
They won't - armed soldiers attacking (literally) peaceful protest, won't go unnoticed. If Trudeau wants to push even more people against himself - it is a way to do it.
I don't think it might end up in a civil war or some kind of conflict, but even more and more people will appear on the scene, who despise this guy.

[IndigoErth]

Cool. Now disrupt the people who can actually do something about it, not just bystanders it hurts who can't change the situation and isn't their job to "fix" it for those who are upset.

[Leo656]

Y e a h, a big selling point of America (and even America Jr.) Is that we don't like to bend over for jack-booted thugs. When the government or the military tries to overreach, we push back hard.

Point of fact, the Second Amendment wasn't created so that people could defend themselves against the criminals on the streets. It was LITERALLY created so people could protect themselves from the criminals in the GOVERNMENT, should ever the need arise. Lest we forget, that was the entire point of the Revolutionary War in the first place.

So yeah, if an armed citizens' uprising on live TV sounds like fun, by all means send in the tanks. But it won't end well for anyone. This isn't f*cking China. And once regular people, even liberals, start to see the government slaughtering their own citizens on live TV - Over something as stupid as a fake vaccine and masks that don't even work - then society as we know it collapses.

This is not a nation of sheep. There are some, like anywhere else. But predominantly, we're rebels. Our nation was birthed from war against a corrupt and unjust regime. If we revolted and started a whole new country over taxes we damn sure won't stand for the government going full-blown Tianmen Square on its own people. That's nuts.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Armed citizen uprising is no match for the military, the difference in technology and fighting skill is far too great. The protestors aren't some fanatical guerilla force either, they will give up and get jabbed most likely when things get too tough for them to handle.

[Leo656]

You sure have a lot of strange ideas about how things work.

[Coola Yagami]

So? Almost the entire world is enforcing vaccine mandates so Canada won't have to answer to them if they take military action against the protests.

No they're not. Not anymore they're not. More and more of them are dropping the mandates thanks to Canada, even though they'll never admit it.

[Coola Yagami]

You sure have a lot of strange ideas about how things work.

Some people just want to the watch the world burn.

He won't be laughing is a civil war breaks out and they start kicking down his door because he was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Leo656]

I think he already lives in a country where subservience to authority is absolute, but don't quote me on that as I don't actually remember.

Suffice to say, Over There is not Over Here.

[Sumac]

Armed citizen uprising is no match for the military, the difference in technology and fighting skill is far too great. The protestors aren't some fanatical guerilla force either, they will give up and get jabbed most likely when things get too tough for them to handle.
Guerilla war and partisan war are things.

And in general, even if Resistance is stomped in the ground by force, without popular support such government will last until its first major failure.

It only works in small countries, like Cuba or North Korea, where state an control basically every corner and every fart made by every citizen.

[Leo656]

Lest we forget how just over a year ago, a bunch of "insurrectionists" went in and "took over the Capitol" armed with little but their cell phones, did little but take selfies, and that was enough to have people like AOC pissing their panties and they're still trying to spin it as "worse than 9/11" because that's how badly they were shook by some silly nonsense like that.

They'd never send the armed forces in against regular people. Especially not the Libs who are trying to run things right now. They're not big on force, they're all about "negotiation".

Also, most people in the military hate the Democrats and would refuse to follow those type of orders. If commanded to turn on civilians most of them would just defy and obstruct. In which case the powers-that-be wouldn't know what to do. They can bark orders all they want but without anyone to carry them out it's meaningless. It would be pretty funny to see Sleepy Joe or Kama-Sutra Harris hop in a tank and tell people "You better do what you're told!" but let's be real, that wouldn't happen.

Our government only has exactly as much power as the citizens of this country are willing to concede. Whenever that becomes crystal clear, the "people in charge" always shift gears into "Hey, let's talk about this" pretty fast. At the end of the day, they're impotent cowards like anyone else who wears a suit for a living.

I'm aware it works differently in other parts of the world. But again, Over There is not Over Here.

[Sumac]

They'd never send the armed forces in against regular people. Especially not the Libs who are trying to run things right now. They're not big on force, they're all about "negotiation".
I feel it has less to do with a lack of desire, but with the fact, that even libs (in the government) understand, that doing something like that, would start a civil war.

Considering they are perfectly aware that half of the country, including some "minorities", want to see them ousted from power, pissing their rivals, moderates and even some of their allies, not in their best interests.

Naturally, it doesn't matter for a regular Twatter commie, who thinks that every problem can be solved with tanks and guns. For the great equality and justice, of course.

[mrmaczaps]

Lest we forget how just over a year ago, a bunch of "insurrectionists" went in and "took over the Capitol" armed with little but their cell phones, did little but take selfies, and that was enough to have people like AOC pissing their panties and they're still trying to spin it as "worse than 9/11" because that's how badly they were shook by some silly nonsense like that.

They'd never send the armed forces in against regular people. Especially not the Libs who are trying to run things right now. They're not big on force, they're all about "negotiation".

Also, most people in the military hate the Democrats and would refuse to follow those type of orders. If commanded to turn on civilians most of them would just defy and obstruct. In which case the powers-that-be wouldn't know what to do. They can bark orders all they want but without anyone to carry them out it's meaningless. It would be pretty funny to see Sleepy Joe or Kama-Sutra Harris hop in a tank and tell people "You better do what you're told!" but let's be real, that wouldn't happen.

Our government only has exactly as much power as the citizens of this country are willing to concede. Whenever that becomes crystal clear, the "people in charge" always shift gears into "Hey, let's talk about this" pretty fast. At the end of the day, they're impotent cowards like anyone else who wears a suit for a living.

I'm aware it works differently in other parts of the world. But again, Over There is not Over Here.

They will at some point, send the armed forces for us regular folks...

And that point will be when they start showing up at gun owners front doors doing no knock raids & slaughtering us... and starting the final world war.

[mrmaczaps]

Armed citizen uprising is no match for the military, the difference in technology and fighting skill is far too great. The protestors aren't some fanatical guerilla force either, they will give up and get jabbed most likely when things get too tough for them to handle.

Lol. You do know that at least half our military hates Bumbling murder Joe Biden, right? They'll quit & take some of those firearms with them. When that day comes, not if, WW3 starts.

[Andrew NDB]

Lol. You do know that at least half our military hates Bumbling murder Joe Biden, right?

Much, much more than that. Since there is no draft and hasn't been for decades, we're talking about an armed forces comprised of people who volunteered for service and then remained in. This takes a certain kind of person. Largely, these are not (and kind of can't be) pacifists or "we need less military!" types... which really seem to comprise the majority of the left.

[Coola Yagami]

Epic fail for the corrupt cops. They tricked a local tow company into towing some farmer trucks away by telling them they were doing illegal activities not related to the protest. People saw the video and blew up the tow company, so they realized they were deceived. The tow company not only returned the trucks, but also joined the convoy themselves.

It's growing, and it's not stopping until Canada listens to reason.

There are rumors that the police will go on strike. If this is true, this is further proof most, if not the entire country is sick of Trudeau's ****.

[The Deadman]

Cool. Now disrupt the people who can actually do something about it, not just bystanders it hurts who can't change the situation and isn't their job to "fix" it for those who are upset.

Cool, now keep that same energy the next time we get some sort of a protest where streets are blocked, people cant get to work etc because people are standing in the street hurting bystanders who cant change the situation.

[joe-eyeball]

Cool, now keep that same energy the next time we get some sort of a protest where streets are blocked, people cant get to work etc because people are standing in the street hurting bystanders who cant change the situation.

Right! I’m mean didn’t everybody just love the great summer of love protest known as Chaz or something? They violently took over a police station and several streets and attempted to claim sovereignty for social justice and politicians applauded them for it! I’m sure everyone who lived there and had businesses there experienced absolutely NO problems getting on with their day to day lives! What a joke!

[Coola Yagami]

Right! I’m mean didn’t everybody just love the great summer of love protest known as Chaz or something? They violently took over a police station and several streets and attempted to claim sovereignty for social justice and politicians applauded them for it! I’m sure everyone who lived there and had businesses there experienced absolutely NO problems getting on with their day to day lives! What a joke!
I know, people were getting killed and raped in Chaz and no one did anything about cause 'muh fees fees'. They chose to humor it cause 'oh well, not my problem'.

They didn't freeze GoFundMes and donations to Chaz either.

[Bahamut810]

Right! I’m mean didn’t everybody just love the great summer of love protest known as Chaz or something? They violently took over a police station and several streets and attempted to claim sovereignty for social justice and politicians applauded them for it! I’m sure everyone who lived there and had businesses there experienced absolutely NO problems getting on with their day to day lives! What a joke!

Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, later renamed Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP) when it was pointed out what this looked like. They did indeed occupy US Territory and deny US ownership, in addition to (allegedly) shaking down local merchants (who sued the city because of this and the lack of police), allowed rapists and murderers to do their raping and murdering and then got mad when Ambulances wouldnt enter to help people because they had no protection.

Also see George Floyd Square and The Red House (I believe it was called)

[Sumac]

They did indeed occupy US Territory and deny US ownership
In a normal country under normal circumstance, this would have been considered main storyline for the news and newspapers and perps would have been called "domestic terrorists" and "trators", yet, something tells me, those who organized those "wannabe communes" ended with a slap on the wrists.

At least those ****ers saw "communism in action", so maybe they will have second thoughts about supporting this ****** ideology....
....Who am I kidding - they are imbeciles who need fairy tales and a "perfect ideology", which makes them "kings over mindless plebs" and unperson bad guys.

[Andrew NDB]

Right! I’m mean didn’t everybody just love the great summer of love protest known as Chaz or something? They violently took over a police station and several streets and attempted to claim sovereignty for social justice and politicians applauded them for it! I’m sure everyone who lived there and had businesses there experienced absolutely NO problems getting on with their day to day lives! What a joke!

Yeah, that happened a couple cities away from me. They'd smash up businesses over and over again in the Capitol Hill area. Most of the businesses just left over the course of that year, or shortly thereafter. They received 0 support from the mayor, the police (but the police's hands were forcibly tied), or anything. Nowadays there's just shoplifting everywhere. There's some law that if it's under $900 in theft, they won't even arrest. Wonderful policies from the left, truly. One thing that is never really talked about in the media about CHAZ or CHOP is about the area itself. It's known well in this state that Capitol Hill is basically "Gay Mecca." It's entirely gay, LGBTQ++, etc.. Moreso than, like, San Francisco. Like a little slice of Seattle that's nothing but that.

But yeah, it's really a hilarious hostage game by the slacktivist libtards. "Give into our crazy racist, facist demands... or we'll burn our own liberal cities to the ground! And just keep doing it! You better believe us -- we'll really do it!!"

It's like yeah... it sort of sucks for the businesses there that have and want nothing to do with your sh**ty cause, but go ahead. Do your worst.

I know, people were getting killed and raped in Chaz and no one did anything about cause 'muh fees fees'. They chose to humor it cause 'oh well, not my problem'.

They didn't freeze GoFundMes and donations to Chaz either.

Nope, they sure didn't. And what an annoying time to peek on social media that was.

"Do you part! Please bail out your neighborhood protesters!" and so on.

Bail them out? Are you sh**ting me? No, please, tell me where I can donate to their prosecution fund, maybe help them interview or look for a few more witnesses or reexamine evidence to help get a conviction. I'd throw a few bucks that way.

Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, later renamed Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP) when it was pointed out what this looked like. They did indeed occupy US Territory and deny US ownership, in addition to (allegedly) shaking down local merchants (who sued the city because of this and the lack of police), allowed rapists and murderers to do their raping and murdering and then got mad when Ambulances wouldnt enter to help people because they had no protection.

Also see George Floyd Square and The Red House (I believe it was called)

A lot of people I went to high school were there, apparently. Most the squirrely-looking guys that used to be on like, the debate club and would always be running for student body president or stuff like that. Guys that everyone would rumor was gay, but nobody could ever prove anything.

[Leo656]

Yeah, back in my day it was pretty cut-and-dry. "Stealing is wrong, don't do it. Destroying other peoples' property is wrong, don't do it. Even if it's 'just a business'; businesses employ people, therefore you're hurting people. Don't do that sh*t."

Even my idiot hippie drug addict parents had enough sense to teach me that much.

BUT, now we teach our kids to be little thugs with no regard for anything except "how they feel". And so it's "okay" or even "heroic" to steal, burn and destroy things, and hurt people as long as it helps you get your way, make a point, or feel better.

Y'know. Like toddlers. We've taught an entire generation that the best way to "enact change" is to act like a toddler who wants to eat a box of cookies for dinner. Cry, stomp your feet, hit people and break your toys. Or their toys. Whatever's around, as long as people pay attention to you.

Disgusting.

EDIT: Can anyone explain to my why sometimes stupid "smileys" and whatnot show up above people's posts? And how to get rid of them? This seems to happen whenever I use my phone to post and I can't seem to get rid of it.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/11/canadian-authorities-look-to-the-courts-to-break-trucker-blockade

“You don’t want to end up losing your license, end up with a criminal record, which will impact your job, your livelihood, even your ability to travel internationally, including to the US,” Trudeau said Friday.

“Let me be as clear as I can – there will be consequences for these actions, and they will be severe,” he said in a Friday announcement.

Trudeau “promised quick action in enforcing the law” the White House said.

The Ontario leader pledged new legal action against protesters, including fines of up to CAN$100,000 – US$78,000 and potential jail time for non-compliance with the government’s orders.

[Leo656]

There will be nothing stopping them from just moving to the U.S and getting employed here if they feel like.

For one thing, we pretty much take anyone now. For another, we have a shortage of truckers despite the job paying good money. For another thing, a criminal record in this country does not in any significant way impede your ability to gain employment as a truck driver, because we're so shorthanded in that area. Point of fact, many people in the trucking business are only there because their criminal record does not allow them to have any other type of gainful employment.

Empty threats. Canada's loss would just be the U.S.'s gain. I call that a win.

Honest question, FWL: You seem like a generally decent guy. So why are you such a boot-licker? You're aware that nobody in any position of "authority" can ever be a good person, right? At least I would HOPE you understand that.

[The Deadman]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/11/canadian-authorities-look-to-the-courts-to-break-trucker-blockade

“You don’t want to end up losing your license, end up with a criminal record, which will impact your job, your livelihood, even your ability to travel internationally, including to the US,” Trudeau said Friday.

“Let me be as clear as I can – there will be consequences for these actions, and they will be severe,” he said in a Friday announcement.

Trudeau “promised quick action in enforcing the law” the White House said.

The Ontario leader pledged new legal action against protesters, including fines of up to CAN$100,000 – US$78,000 and potential jail time for non-compliance with the government’s orders.

We live in a bizarro world where leftists will punish people for protests that dont fit their agenda while cheering on the ones that do.

[Coola Yagami]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/11/canadian-authorities-look-to-the-courts-to-break-trucker-blockade

“You don’t want to end up losing your license, end up with a criminal record, which will impact your job, your livelihood, even your ability to travel internationally, including to the US,” Trudeau said Friday.

“Let me be as clear as I can – there will be consequences for these actions, and they will be severe,” he said in a Friday announcement.

Trudeau “promised quick action in enforcing the law” the White House said.

The Ontario leader pledged new legal action against protesters, including fines of up to CAN$100,000 – US$78,000 and potential jail time for non-compliance with the government’s orders.

The only thing Trudeau can do is step down. The only severe consequences coming are for him.

He can't arrest literally every trucker there, it will be the same problem. No one to deliver to anybody. Plus a lot of the police are standing up and not doing it, either quitting to take long PTO vacations til this blows over.

Trudeau has to say those three words or step down. His only options. The consequences for him will be severe. He'll never be able to show his face in Canada ever all this.

[Andrew NDB]

The only thing Trudeau can do is step down. The only severe consequences coming are for him.

He can't arrest literally every trucker there, it will be the same problem. No one to deliver to anybody. Plus a lot of the police are standing up and not doing it, either quitting to take long PTO vacations til this blows over.

Trudeau has to say those three words or step down. His only options. The consequences for him will be severe. He'll never be able to show his face in Canada ever all this.

Do you think Trudeau cares? To him and everyone of his whackjob mindset, these kinds of things are just minor sufferings on the road to liberal utopia. It'll all be worth it when they arrive at that, and so on.

[Sumac]

Proposed measures sound like the ones you want to implement to finish your political carrier for good, because, most people will see your rotten and power-grabbing nature.

[The Deadman]

He's not going to step down over this, even if he considered it theyd talk him out of it.

[Coola Yagami]

He will, or at the very least drop all mandates. He literally has no other choice.

[Coola Yagami]

k-Sbu7TKGPU

Fun and freedom all around.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Honest question, FWL: You seem like a generally decent guy. So why are you such a boot-licker? You're aware that nobody in any position of "authority" can ever be a good person, right? At least I would HOPE you understand that.

I am not opposed to the existence of authority and authoritarianism itself, I think both are necessary and good infact. There are times when there I don't like the enforcement of certain laws, but that's because of what's being enforced, rather than any objection to the act of enforcement itself.

In the case of vaccine, I was once hesitant because of supposed-side effects. However, since I realised that I was mistaken about the vaccine being in-effective or significantly harmful, I believe that its necessary to mandate it for the good of society.

[Leo656]

That makes no sense. Vaccinated people have, do, and are catching Covid at a rate which is now outpacing the unvaccinated. Furthermore, it's been proven that almost every single person who died of Covid was either obese, a heavy smoker, abusing opiate medication, severely immunocompromised, rather old, OR some combination of those things.

There ultimately wasn't much we could reasonably do to protect those people - even the vaccine didn't protect them - and every single other person who got Covid either didn't even know they had it OR said it was just like a bad cold.

I understand how in the early months when we didn't know anything at all about this thing, a blanket approach and certain heavy-handed measures made sense. We know better now. If you're not in one of the above At-Risk groups... Then you're simply not at risk.

You're advocating that we ALL suffer to protect a vast minority of people who honestly weren't gonna make it anyway. I know that sounds harsh, but that's the reality. And it simply isn't fair. Not when there have been people like the woman in Kansas I posted about who literally had "allergic reaction to the Covid vaccine" listed as her official cause of death.

The vaccine officially has a body count. And you think it should be MANDATORY? Get. The f*ck. Outta here. I'll take my chances, thanks.

Especially now that the virus in endemic. Like I've been predicting all along, it's now "The New Flu" and nobody is talking about "eliminating" it anymore. We're supposed to "live with it" now. Well, I've been. For two years. No shots, minimal masks. I can keep taking my chances. I never get a flu shot, either. Know why? Because A. I never get the flu except for twice in 40 years, and B. EVERY time someone I know gets a flu shot, they inevitably get the flu, and when they don't get a flu shot, they DON'T get the flu. If it's all a random crapshoot, then none of this sh*t should be mandatory.

Nobody's being protected. The sh*t doesn't work. Make it mandatory? Who the F*CK does that benefit besides Moderna and Pfizer? Two companies, I'll remind, which have a history of shady, unethical, and illegal sh*t. Again... For the people in the back... If. You. Get. Covid. Anyway. Then. The. Vaccine. Does. Not. Work.

And don't speak about "minimizing symptoms" either. I now know plenty of people who never got the shot and have since had Covid TWICE. "Like a bad cold, over it in three days. I don't know why everybody's so chickensh*t about it." I am dead serious, and not exaggerating one bit, that the people I know who DID get the shot, ended up having WAY worse symptoms than those who didn't. Anecdotal, sure, but you can't reasonably dismiss that.

Not only should this sh*t not be mandatory, it doesn't even NEED to be. But if I'm rolling the dice ANYWAY, I'll take my chances with the germs. At least I know where that came from, and have a reasonable idea what it might do to me. The shot? No idea WHAT might happen but I'm not inclined to find out. Sick is Sick, either way. Dead is dead, either way. Better the Devil you know, says I.

It's insane that this is even a conversation by this point.

[mrmaczaps]

I am not opposed to the existence of authority and authoritarianism itself, I think both are necessary and good infact. There are times when there I don't like the enforcement of certain laws, but that's because of what's being enforced, rather than any objection to the act of enforcement itself.

In the case of vaccine, I was once hesitant because of supposed-side effects. However, since I realised that I was mistaken about the vaccine being in-effective or significantly harmful, I believe that its necessary to mandate it for the good of society.

Okay hitler.So you feel like you poisoned yourself now so must everyone else or be shot or locked up? You just come & try to force it on me personally. I double dog dare you. Then we will see who gets a shot, cupcake. :tlol:

[Jester]

Okay hitler.So you feel like you poisoned yourself now so must everyone else or be shot or locked up? You just come & try to force it on me personally. I double dog dare you. Then we will see who gets a shot, cupcake. :tlol:

Disagreements are one thing but threats of physical violence or another. Knock it off are you might have to take a vacation from the forum.

[Coola Yagami]

Disagreements are one thing but threats of physical violence or another. Knock it off or you might have to take a vacation from the forum.

I agree, let's keep thins civil. The guy is obviously not going to your house, so stop with the the 'bring it on' crap, please.

I don't want this topic removed again, especially after we're this far into things. Day 15 and still going.

The truckers are currently working on plans where the farmers themselves can sell food directly to the people at a lower cost because they're cutting out the middle man, so to speak. They're already predicting that once the store shelves start going empty, the media and the government will jump on the truckers to paint them in a negative light (despite Trudope doing literally everything except actually talk and reason with them like the ******* cowardly dictator that he is), so the truckers are already working on a #FeedCanada movement to deal with this as it comes.

At this point, despite what the media or any other corrupt company says, the one and only person making this go on any longer than this needs to be is Trudeau himself.

[The Deadman]

Okay hitler.So you feel like you poisoned yourself now so must everyone else or be shot or locked up? You just come & try to force it on me personally. I double dog dare you. Then we will see who gets a shot, cupcake. :tlol:

Lets calm down there, bud.

[mrmaczaps]

Disagreements are one thing but threats of physical violence or another. Knock it off or you might have to take a vacation from the forum.

I did not make any threats.

[mrmaczaps]

Lets calm down there, bud.

KMA cupcake. Little Hitler wants everyone who refuses to get poisoned locked up or dead. Self defense is NOT unlawful.

[Coola Yagami]

KMA cupcake. Little Hitler wants everyone who refuses to get poisoned locked up or dead. Self defense is NOT unlawful.

You basically said if the dude comes to your house to jab you you'll end him, as if this guy would really do that. Like he got his jab, he isn't making other people get 'em. He might disagrees with some of us here but the dude is not literally going to people's houses jabbing people on behalf of God-Emperor Fauci.

Let's just calm down because I don't want this thread locked down again.

[Jester]

KMA cupcake. Little Hitler wants everyone who refuses to get poisoned locked up or dead. Self defense is NOT unlawful.

I did not make any threats.

OK man. I gave you fair warning. Take 2 weeks.

[Coola Yagami]

OK man. I gave you fair warning. Take 2 weeks.

Thank you for keeping the thread up, Jester.


Also it took me like.... 15 minutes to figure out KMA meant Kiss My Ass. Everyone keeps using acronyms nowadays.

[Jester]

Thank you for keeping the thread up, Jester.


Also it took me like.... 15 minutes to figure out KMA meant Kiss My Ass. Everyone keeps using acronyms nowadays.

No problem. And it took me reading it out loud to my wife for her to tell me that's what kma meant.

[Leo656]

I miss a lotta sh*t when I'm at the show. Jeezus! :lol:

[The Deadman]

I am not opposed to the existence of authority and authoritarianism itself, I think both are necessary and good infact. There are times when there I don't like the enforcement of certain laws, but that's because of what's being enforced, rather than any objection to the act of enforcement itself.

In the case of vaccine, I was once hesitant because of supposed-side effects. However, since I realised that I was mistaken about the vaccine being in-effective or significantly harmful, I believe that its necessary to mandate it for the good of society.

You can not and should not force someone to put something into their body. Sorry.

[Sumac]

In the case of vaccine, I was once hesitant because of supposed-side effects. However, since I realised that I was mistaken about the vaccine being in-effective or significantly harmful, I believe that its necessary to mandate it for the good of society.
I would have agreed, under normal circumstances.
However, as I said before, I can't blame people who do not want to use them. If anything it is on governments who lied and changed their positions 20 times throughout the last 2 years.

That makes no sense. Vaccinated people have, do, and are catching Covid at a rate which is now outpacing the unvaccinated.
Because, there are more vaccinated people.
Simple math, really.

There ultimately wasn't much we could reasonably do to protect those people - even the vaccine didn't protect them - and every single other person who got Covid either didn't even know they had it OR said it was just like a bad cold.
I know cases, when it was opposite: healthy people catching COVID and either having a lot of problems with it or dying.

I understand how in the early months when we didn't know anything at all about this thing, a blanket approach and certain heavy-handed measures made sense. We know better now. If you're not in one of the above At-Risk groups... Then you're simply not at risk.
False statement, due to what I had said above.

Obviously virus has more chances to kill people with compromised health. However, there are cases, when virus killed people, who were previously healthy. As such, there can not be a blanket statement on who is "completely safe" or who is not.

You're advocating that we ALL suffer to protect a vast minority of people who honestly weren't gonna make it anyway. I know that sounds harsh, but that's the reality. And it simply isn't fair. Not when there have been people like the woman in Kansas I posted about who literally had "allergic reaction to the Covid vaccine" listed as her official cause of death.
I am not really sure, where "suffering" coming from.
Yes, vaccines side effects do happen. Sometimes they can be lethal. All people are different and like virus affects everyone differently so does vaccines.

However, if you love statistics, you might understand, that number of people who were saved by vaccines is outpacing number of people who were not. And will outpace them in the future even more.

So, there is no reason to cry about "suffering", if you like logical approach so much.

The vaccine officially has a body count. And you think it should be MANDATORY? Get. The f*ck. Outta here. I'll take my chances, thanks.
Sorry, but this a childish approach.

Especially now that the virus in endemic. Like I've been predicting all along, it's now "The New Flu" and nobody is talking about "eliminating" it anymore. We're supposed to "live with it" now. Well, I've been. For two years. No shots, minimal masks. I can keep taking my chances. I never get a flu shot, either. Know why? Because A. I never get the flu except for twice in 40 years, and B. EVERY time someone I know gets a flu shot, they inevitably get the flu, and when they don't get a flu shot, they DON'T get the flu. If it's all a random crapshoot, then none of this sh*t should be mandatory.

Nobody's being protected. The sh*t doesn't work. Make it mandatory? Who the F*CK does that benefit besides Moderna and Pfizer? Two companies, I'll remind, which have a history of shady, unethical, and illegal sh*t. Again... For the people in the back... If. You. Get. Covid. Anyway. Then. The. Vaccine. Does. Not. Work.
Others might be not to so lucky.
As for you anti-corporation rage, it is hilarious. ll companies are making money on you. By this logic, you might as well stop using any other services, since in the end some unlikable people still are making money off you.

And don't speak about "minimizing symptoms" either. I now know plenty of people who never got the shot and have since had Covid TWICE. "Like a bad cold, over it in three days. I don't know why everybody's so chickensh*t about it." I am dead serious, and not exaggerating one bit, that the people I know who DID get the shot, ended up having WAY worse symptoms than those who didn't. Anecdotal, sure, but you can't reasonably dismiss that.
I love how you decide for other people whether they should live or die, just, because, you are so "cool" and "strong" that you can survive virus without vaccine.

It is easy decision to make and empty demagoguery to talk, when it is not your life at the stake.

[Coola Yagami]

I would have agreed, under normal circumstances.
However, as I said before, I can't blame people who do not want to use them. If anything it is on governments who lied and changed their positions 20 times throughout the last 2 years.

Not to mention the side effects and the fact it wasn't a one size fits all. Instead of 'ask your doctor if the vaccine is right for you' they pushed it as anyone can take it regardless of conditions.

The news covers the worst cases but CoVid is nothing for everyone else. Why gamble and develop a permanent heart condition over a disease that's a 3 day flu at best?

[Leo656]

All life's a crapshoot. Strap on a helmet and get the f*ck out there.

[Jester]

Something dawned on me, and I debated keeping it to myself, but I may as well.

People who take issue with the current crop of people taking issue with the mandates compare it to mandates for schools having kids get all their shots, right? But all the vaccines that we use in that regard are for viruses (and other illnesses) that don't mutate and are pretty cut and dried, tried and true. Mandating the covid vaccine seems more akin to mandating the flu shot, and I don't see many people trying to force anyone to take that one. I tend to roll the dice with the flu each year mainly because the shot is for only certain strains, the flu also constantly mutates, and the flu is inconvenient though typically not deadly (one could argue covid is more deadly, but there are just as many people who have mild to no symptoms.)

[Warhorse]

Yeah, like I said elsewhere, over here Murphy got re-elected (nobody really believes it was legit; it's NJ, it's pretty much an open secret that the "Italians" pick who gets to be governor) by promising to extend the mandates and restrictions and all of that. Now he's gone completely the other way, talking about getting rid of all the mandates and saying "It's time to send kids back to school, without masks." He says people should be left alone if they WANT to wear masks but that nobody should be forced to anymore.

My gym went back to mandatory masks for like two weeks, until Murphy officially said it wasn't mandatory anymore, then it stopped. You see like two or three old/fat people at the gym still wearing them, but if given the choice it's pretty clear everyone is over it.

As one might predict, the super-left and scared of their own shadow types are like, "I don't knoowwwwwwww... I don't feel safe yet!" :roll: Some of the parents are screeching "They're trying to kill our kids!" by saying they don't have to mask in schools, meanwhile 1. Most of the kids are not wearing N95 masks anyway, and every single "expert" has now openly admitted that all other masks are f*cking worthless, and 2. I forget if it was 12 or 18, but that's exactly how many people under the age of 18 have died in NJ from Covid since this whole ordeal began two years ago. 18 at most, ALL of whom had serious health issues which meant they probably wouldn't have lived much longer anyway. So no, they're NOT "trying to kill your kids". Morons.

It's s l o w l y all coming around. NOBODY signed up for this sh*t indefinitely, and after two years people have had enough. Especially now that it's endemic, and the secret's out that only the fat and the old ever had anything to truly fear in the first place.

I seriously think it's all thanks to Spider-Man. :lol: Millions of people "risked" going to the movies for the first time in years, packed the theaters, many of them went multiple times, and nobody got sick or died as a result. I mean, after THAT what more can be said? If this thing were as dangerous as we've been led to believe, that would have been a "super-spreader event" the likes of which we've never seen. When that didn't come to pass, people finally realized, "Oh, yeah, I guess it's actually not that dangerous out there."

Like I've been saying since the beginning, you can lie to people and program them all you want, but when they see with their own two eyes what's really going on, everything else goes out the window.

The greater problem becomes, the public trust in the mainstream media has been irreparably broken by this entire ordeal, to the point where I feel like "conspiracy theorists" and people who insist on getting their news from "alternative sources" - and the sometimes nutty things they come up with - are only going to get worse and dig in deeper. Because what's the alternative? Believe what they say on TV? You can't. We've SEEN that play out in real time. So... now what?

Damn! What a great post! True about Spider-Man. It wasn't the first movie I saw since the pandemic (it was actually Black Widow) but either way, it's nice to see people fighting against the tyranny going on.

[Warhorse]

It isn't their jobs to change it for those truckers. Especially the U.S. Americans whose jobs are being impacted and losing income over it when they're just minding their own lives over here.

There are enough truckers, I'm pretty sure they can blow up the phones themselves. Or go make a big show where it will inconvenience those lawmakers and make it hard for THEM to get to and do their own jobs. Force them to have to sleep at their office or walk past many protestors just trying to get there because they can't get their car anywhere close.

Darling, I hate to break it to you, but the first world countries are right now in a civil war. It's the power hungry tyrants against the freedom loving patriots, and like it or not, you are going to be thrust in the middle of this. And people "minding their own business" are one of the root causes. They are the types that stuck their heads in the sands as Hitler became more and more powerful in Germany. At the time, other countries didn't care because it didn't affect them. But then one day, that was no longer the case.

[Warhorse]

Armed citizen uprising is no match for the military, the difference in technology and fighting skill is far too great. The protestors aren't some fanatical guerilla force either, they will give up and get jabbed most likely when things get too tough for them to handle.

Who do you think makes up the military? Who do you think are the ones that are talented sharp shooters, tacticians, etc? You do know most truckers are veterans and that it's one big club? You really think the military who tend to hate bureaucrats are going to follow orders to kill their own? :roll:

[Warhorse]

I am not opposed to the existence of authority and authoritarianism itself, I think both are necessary and good infact. There are times when there I don't like the enforcement of certain laws, but that's because of what's being enforced, rather than any objection to the act of enforcement itself.

In the case of vaccine, I was once hesitant because of supposed-side effects. However, since I realised that I was mistaken about the vaccine being in-effective or significantly harmful, I believe that its necessary to mandate it for the good of society.

I work in a company of about 50 people. We have had two people die after getting the covid vaccine, another one of our very best workers got some kind of severe nerve damage and is having seizures now and another handful haven't felt right since getting the second booster. I on the other hand, refuse to get this (thank God I live in a free state of Florida) so haven't had to worry. I admit, I got Covid on Christmas day, but it was light, lasted only 3 days and I moved on with my life just fine.

[Warhorse]

Something dawned on me, and I debated keeping it to myself, but I may as well.

People who take issue with the current crop of people taking issue with the mandates compare it to mandates for schools having kids get all their shots, right? But all the vaccines that we use in that regard are for viruses (and other illnesses) that don't mutate and are pretty cut and dried, tried and true. Mandating the covid vaccine seems more akin to mandating the flu shot, and I don't see many people trying to force anyone to take that one. I tend to roll the dice with the flu each year mainly because the shot is for only certain strains, the flu also constantly mutates, and the flu is inconvenient though typically not deadly (one could argue covid is more deadly, but there are just as many people who have mild to no symptoms.)

This is how I feel. And it irks me when people hear that I am not for the covid vaccine automatically think I'm an anti-vaxxer. Like you said, the mandated vaccines for schools are for serious illnesses like small pox, polio, TB, etc which have been tried and trued and have a very long history of working. If I'm not mistaken, one of these viruses have pretty much been eradicated from society for several decades because those vaccines were that successful.

[Coola Yagami]

Damn! What a great post! True about Spider-Man. It wasn't the first movie I saw since the pandemic (it was actually Black Widow) but either way, it's nice to see people fighting against the tyranny going on.

Kinda funny. My first movie during pandemic time, was I believe, Godzilla VS Kong, then Mortal Kombat, then Black Widow and then Venom Let There be Carnage. I would always go at the dead time, matinees and when the movies were already a few weeks old, so I was literally the only one in the theater, except that one old lady that was probably a Venom and Carnage fan.

But then Spider-Man hit and I didn't want to wait for that one to die down, mostly the excitement and curiosity of the other two Spider-Men and to avoid spoilers. It was a crowded theater and I had my little song and dance with Omicron a few days later. My body coughed it up in about 3 days. Not worth risking permanent blood clots or other **** over something that only inconvenienced me for three days.

Again, I hate needles and blood clots sounds like something that is gonna involve a lot of needles. Hard pass.

This is how I feel. And it irks me when people hear that I am not for the covid vaccine automatically think I'm an anti-vaxxer. Like you said, the mandated vaccines for schools are for serious illnesses like small pox, polio, TB, etc which have been tried and trued and have a very long history of working. If I'm not mistaken, one of these viruses have pretty much been eradicated from society for several decades because those vaccines were that successful.

Just the fact that when the anti-vaxxer movement started (the true anti-vaxxers, not the ones opposed to this concoction), some of those old childhood diseases made minor comebacks.... and yet those of us that were vaccinated since childhood that are in our 30's and 40's and beyond never caught this new wave of diseases, nor did we ever need a booster years after the fact. Those vaccines we took as kids were one-and-done for life. Yet this failed gene therapy cocktail can't even last a full year without needing a booster, and before all this trucker business started, we were well on our way to a fourth one, AND IT STILL DOESN'T STOP THE CATCH AND SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

[Jester]

Yeah measles was nearly eradicated before true anti-vaxers stopped getting their kids vaccinated (thanks Jenny McCarthy Walberg).

Though some of the traditional shots are multi stage. I know my sons have had the 2 MMR shots one at 1 one at 4. Hepatitis B is a 3 shot system.

[The Deadman]

Kinda funny. My first movie during pandemic time, was I believe, Godzilla VS Kong, then Mortal Kombat, then Black Widow and then Venom Let There be Carnage. I would always go at the dead time, matinees and when the movies were already a few weeks old, so I was literally the only one in the theater, except that one old lady that was probably a Venom and Carnage fan.

But then Spider-Man hit and I didn't want to wait for that one to die down, mostly the excitement and curiosity of the other two Spider-Men and to avoid spoilers. It was a crowded theater and I had my little song and dance with Omicron a few days later. My body coughed it up in about 3 days. Not worth risking permanent blood clots or other **** over something that only inconvenienced me for three days.

Again, I hate needles and blood clots sounds like something that is gonna involve a lot of needles. Hard pass.



Just the fact that when the anti-vaxxer movement started (the true anti-vaxxers, not the ones opposed to this concoction), some of those old childhood diseases made minor comebacks.... and yet those of us that were vaccinated since childhood that are in our 30's and 40's and beyond never caught this new wave of diseases, nor did we ever need a booster years after the fact. Those vaccines we took as kids were one-and-done for life. Yet this failed gene therapy cocktail can't even last a full year without needing a booster, and before all this trucker business started, we were well on our way to a fourth one, AND IT STILL DOESN'T STOP THE CATCH AND SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

We're going to need boosters for each variant of the virus until the CDC comes out and says this isnt going anywhere, you dont need the shots anymore.

[Coola Yagami]

We're going to need boosters for each variant of the virus until the CDC comes out and says this isnt going anywhere, you dont need the shots anymore.

Ehhh IDK. I'm not 100% sure how politics and re-elections work except for the actual election time in 2024, but it sounds like March is when some sort of preliminary thing comes up where it's crucial for Biden to boost up his approval rating (which is currently lower than Trump's) if he hopes to get re-elected. So don't be too surprised if all of a sudden Biden and Fauci come out with some sort of 'we beat Corona!' speech next month, making it sound like thanks to Biden himself, we're finally out of the pandemic.

It's already kinda happening. Fauci literally went from 'we're only in the first phase of the pandemic' to 'we're finally out of the full blown phase of the pandemic' within weeks, and now people in the media have finally been allowed to question why the pandemic is still going on despite all the vaccines, boosters, lockdowns and mandates. A few months ago those same people would have been censored or fired for ever questioning the narrative.

Some weeks ago, Fauci was asked why there are so many children hospitalized lately despite the vaccine, and he actually tried to clarify a difference between 'sick of CoVid' and 'sick with CoVid', and of course you can't question, argue or cancel him for saying that cause he's GodEmperor Fauci.

The narrative is slowly changing, mostly due to the Canadian Truckers and the fear of an American version rising up. So don't be too surprised if Biden is suddenly hailed as the Savior that saved America from CoVid in the next month or so, and the CDC will be forced to follow suit.. Not cause he actually did anything, but because he wants you to remember this come 2024.

[Sumac]

Not to mention the side effects and the fact it wasn't a one size fits all. Instead of 'ask your doctor if the vaccine is right for you' they pushed it as anyone can take it regardless of conditions.

The news covers the worst cases but CoVid is nothing for everyone else. Why gamble and develop a permanent heart condition over a disease that's a 3 day flu at best?
What are you talking about?

The fact that vaccines might have side-effects was known from the beginning. Heck, it was a main concern, before their large scale adoption and why people didn't and don't trust them, since they were adopted much faster than normal.

And there is already a list of conditions prohibiting people from taking vaccines. Its also existed almost from the beginning. At the very least I've seen those lists back in 2020.

As for "why gamble"?
Well, why gamble with the virus, which can be like a 3 day flu or, alternatively, can kill you? Not to mention there are still no exact information on long term consequences of the virus. You are gambling either way, just with vaccine there are more chances, you survive.

[Coola Yagami]

What are you talking about?

The fact that vaccines might have side-effects was known from the beginning. Heck, it was a main concern, before their large scale adoption and why people didn't and don't trust them, since they were adopted much faster than normal.

And there is already a list of conditions prohibiting people from taking vaccines. Its also existed almost from the beginning. At the very least I've seen those lists back in 2020.

As for "why gamble"?
Well, why gamble with the virus, which can be like a 3 day flu or, alternatively, can kill you? Not to mention there are still no exact information on long term consequences of the virus. You are gambling either way, just with vaccine there are more chances, you survive.

Yeah, survive with life long conditions due to the vaccine, no thanks.

And nobody cares about the list of conditions, or at least the left don't. They want everybody jabbed, regardless.

I already gamble, and won, and now I got natural antibodies. I kinda had a feeling I would, I have never been to the hospital over the flu, no matter how harsh, and believe me, moving from warm climates to s snowy area, I did get some harsh flus. But nothing so bad I had to miss work over it. CoVid was still somewhat worse, but nothing worth risking my life permanently with a 'vaccine' over.

Hell, part of me kinda got mad. After the third day when I was starting to feel better I was like 'THIS was what was worth freezing the country over?"

Yeah a lot of people died, we can't deny that, but a great deal of them already had one foot in the grave already.

As for long-lasting conditions after the fact, well my buddy has permanent lung damage and brain fog, and that's after getting boosted. So why did she even get the vaccines if it didn't prevent her from getting exactly what she was getting them for? She got CoVid and she got the same effects from CoVid while vaccinated she was hoping to prevent because the media told her if you get the vaccine this won't happen to you. She's immune compromised and got the jabs cause it was 'the right thing to do' and yet she got the same result the media told her would happen if she didn't get vaccinated.

It's like not smoking to prevent lung cancer cuz the tv said so but you get lung cancer anyway.

[Bahamut810]

Some weeks ago, Fauci was asked why there are so many children hospitalized lately despite the vaccine, and he actually tried to clarify a difference between 'sick of CoVid' and 'sick with CoVid', and of course you can't question, argue or cancel him for saying that cause he's GodEmperor Fauci.

This is important considering that anyone who does who has covid is considered a covid death regardless of the real reason.

[Coola Yagami]

This is important considering that anyone who does who has covid is considered a covid death regardless of the real reason.

Exactly, and it's the stuff we've been saying since day one and we'd get ignored, made fun of, called alt-right, censored or cancelled. But now that Fauci said it, aaaayyyyyy, it's all good.

It's ********.

[Coola Yagami]

Trudeau tried to invoke the emergency act, the Canadian Civil Liberties Commission said 'lol naw'.

[Bahamut810]

That's good. I'm almost afraid of an international incident if they start mass arresting the drivers and americans (seeing our neighbors having their rights violated) head in...against the advice of our government.

[Coola Yagami]

So the Canadian police has started arresting the truckers, either isolated guys or guys in groups, they even started to arrest local citizens who are filming and streaming the event. Despite it all, the truckers are still keeping things civil. No fights have broken out. Trudeau is just showing his true colors and the sheep are slowly waking up.

There are literally thousands of truckers, the freedom convoy continues.

[Coola Yagami]

So the corrupt cops have started to arrest truckers, but now with smoke bombs and rubber bullets. There's been a case where a disabled lady was trampled by a horse, since cops were also coming on horseback. Despite rumors, she survived.

Despite everything, the peaceful protest continues. I have to give them credit though, despite it being an enormous amount of people with no real leaders or organization, it is quite simply, if you're a trucker or a citizen sick of the mandates, go to Ottawa, no one has thrown a single punch yet. They know the media is watching and the moment someone, anyone so much as shoves a police officer, the media will be in the frenzy with all the typical buzzwords, alt-right, Nazis, insurrectionists, whatever else, just now with the adjective 'violent' added in front of it.

I have to hand it to them, there's like this unwritten code, this agreement, that no matter what, do NOT get violent, or else you're giving Trudeau what he wants.

Also, **** that guy. He tried to go for the wars act, it was rejected, the asshole went ahead with it anyway.

[The Deadman]

I want someone to tell me how this is illegal when 2 years ago they were having violent protests over a pipeline and were causing rail disruptions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests#Solida rity_protests

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220218-violent-attack-by-protesters-at-canadian-pipeline-worksite

[Sumac]

I am sure those events will add popularity to Trudeau.

[Vegita-San]

Emperor Palpatine allive and well in canada.

Wow, Australia, canada, wtf is going on in the worlds..

Also, it's odd to see twitter united against this a hole. Treduae is basically canada's SJW left winger. If this happened udner biden twitter would be praising him.

[IMJ]

Darling, I hate to break it to you, but the first world countries are right now in a civil war. It's the power hungry tyrants against the freedom loving patriots, and like it or not, you are going to be thrust in the middle of this. And people "minding their own business" are one of the root causes. They are the types that stuck their heads in the sands as Hitler became more and more powerful in Germany. At the time, other countries didn't care because it didn't affect them. But then one day, that was no longer the case.

"The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."

It is in that spirit that I started opening my mouth with unassailable commentary about the hostile-left and cancel-culture in places like this. Some form of pushback is necessary.

[Coola Yagami]

I am sure those events will add popularity to Trudeau.

Sadly for many people it will. There's a lot of people saying 'omg, just get the ****ing jab and go home'. There are, sadly, a lot of people sucking Trudeau's tiny dick. It's just the 'anti-mandate' people have finally started voicing their opinions a lot more on Twitter.

This whole experience has shown just how selfish we can be as humans. A lot (not all) of people are more than happy to get as many jabs as they're told to get and have absolutely zero compassion for those that don't want to. No one is telling you not to take it, no one is forcing you not to take it, there have been no violent attacks towards the Pfizer building or whatever, we just want to have the choice, and we just want to be left alone with our choice.

And before someone says a version of 'it's your choice just be sure to deal with the consequences of that choice', don't forget those that either died or are stuck with permanent lung damage from CoVid despite being vaccinated, and those that either died or or also stuck with permanent heart problems due to just getting jabbed. So yeah, get jabbed, but also get prepared to deal with the consequences.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://fortune.com/2022/02/21/canada-ottawa-freedom-convoy-protest-ends-truckers-arrest-covid-vaccine-mandate/

191 People arrested, police deployed stun grenades and pepper spray, towed away 70 vehicles, ordered a freeze on 206 bank accounts, deployed concrete barricades and metal fences to prevent future protests, and three leaders of the protest have been arrested.

Is the Freedom Convoy over?

[Coola Yagami]

https://fortune.com/2022/02/21/canada-ottawa-freedom-convoy-protest-ends-truckers-arrest-covid-vaccine-mandate/

191 People arrested, police deployed stun grenades and pepper spray, towed away 70 vehicles, ordered a freeze on 206 bank accounts, deployed concrete barricades and metal fences to prevent future protests, and three leaders of the protest have been arrested.

Is the Freedom Convoy over?

Still going strong. 191 people is just a drop in the bucket. They've moved from the Parliament but continue to keep going. They seem to be going to Quebec now.

Some people are also only being arrested 'for show' and being cut loose the same day.

Not over yet. This is only the beginning. They knew eventually they will start using force on them, making them look bad since they are live on video caught in 4K using violence against the most peaceful protest in history. The real Freedom Convoy starts now.